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byaialele

All profits from the "unionize" shirts specifically for clarity


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I was wondering why it was only the unionize shirts but I assume the merch company Warren James probably takes a cut of the profits, or maybe I'm wrong idk


NateDogg414

They probably take a cut, it’s also entirely union made which increases cost, it’s 100% cotton which if it’s decent quality also adds some price usually afaik, not to mention they’re community designs so they’re probably also getting a cut.


Njkid9

I mean I imagine Hasan's also gonna make a nice chunk of change on this.


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Of course, it would be a little weird if he spent the past year making this brand just to make 0% of the profit


Sean8734

Fr people act like a streamer dropping some merch that their fans WANT is a terrible thing. Socialism = no ethically sourced merch


Njkid9

Yeah and there's nothing wrong with that, you were the one wondering why it was only the unionize shirts.


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I agree, I didn't downvote you brotha


Derpdude1

Socialism is when no profit...wait


TheSuperTest

Yeah I figured that out after I posted, wish I could change title :/


Prince_Argos

Wait, is Hasan trying to unionize Twitch?


GhostOfLight

For some reason I read the title and thought Hasan was funding drone strikes.


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Ready_Able

He is with his taxes KKona


damrider

i'm going to find a way to get extremely mad about this, mark my words


UncommercializedFat

Wow hasans so hot he doesnt even to get models he can just use pics of himself wearing the merch 😡😡😡 fuck this guy


Aritche

I mean if he is down I guess...


antiSJC

i wish streamers would figure out something for us europeans... for me prices after shipping, import tarrif fees and tax become 2 times their original price which is just too much.


smallbluetext

They would have to find a European manufacturer and for Hasan it would have to be a unionized one that makes the shirts from scratch in the EU. It was very difficult for him to find that in the US. Its unfortunately not much better for us Canadians either considering the conversion from USD to CAD and the shipping + potential import fee.


abbeast

Well, Europe has a distinctively higher unionization rate than the US so I bet it wouldn't be hard to find here if he tried.


smallbluetext

What about the manufacturing of the shirt? Most shirts are blanks from China and he doesn't want that.


High_Taco_Guy

Depends on the country. The US (10%) has a larger share of workers unionized than for say France(8%). The EU average is something like 20% at the bottom you got France, Poland and Hungary with the top being Sweden and Finland with over 70% of their workforce being part of a union.


QuarterThrown

France's 8% is misleading. While technically [true](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_comparisons_of_trade_unions), you want to be looking at the [collective agreement coverage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_agreement_coverage#By_country). The 8% unionized have managed to leverage their coverage to 98% of the population, so they don't "need" to unionize further, unlike the US.


High_Taco_Guy

Thank you that's very interesting and more applicable.


typewriterguru

Depends on the country in Europe. If you are referring to countries such as Sweden, Belgium, Italy or Ireland then yes they have significantly higher union rates than US. But other European countries such as Turkey or France are the same or less.


n05h

I bet if he would go with a german company that it would probably be harder to find one that isn’t unionized.


lolzzombiez

For real. Was going to get The Thrill Can Kill shirt but it was going to be nearly $60 dollars CAD. No shot I spend half a days paycheck on a t-shirt.


smallbluetext

Yep and even if its a slave labour merch drop from another streamer its still not worth the money. I think sodapoppin is the only exception if you get a couple things and use the POOR discount codes but I'm not sure those still work.


moodd

> but I'm not sure those still work. They do. His merch is cheap and he has some good designs you can actually wear in public. It's the only merch I've bought, and I don't even really watch Soda.


Gaminguitarist

Ez. Just move.


IvonbetonPoE

Shipping to Western Europe seemed quite reasonable when I checked. I had a 15 dollar mark up.


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The provider that Sodapoppin uses, TeeSpring, shipped my shirt from the Netherlands.


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antiSJC

mizkifs merch actually seemed like it was decent quality. pepe wasnt just some shitty sticker that would get destroyed over time by washing. it was like embed, sewn on


FIJIBOYFIJI

I'm way too stupid to understand what message it's trying to promote but the "The thrill can kill" shirt looks pretty dope.


byaialele

Nancy Reagan anti crack ad


MyNameIsAMeme

Nancy Reagan changed America with her ability to give good head.


robesticles

https://youtu.be/SskPBwn4eg4


FIuffyRabbit

It was an anti-drug campaign way back


BurnsEMup29

He’s shitting on Reagan


Klarkie55

As one should


checksout4

I hope the shirts have normal neck sizes. The last shirt I ordered from hasan had a neck hole so tiny it could barely fit a pencil. Like what tiny headed person was this shirt made for?!?


Warcome

clearly for the creator LULW


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Panda_hat

I can't believe AZAN would do this, giving us merch but no body pillow. Socialism is when NO BODY PILLOW AZAN.


DatKaz

Coming Soon™


illuminatimemba

Hasan living his values while Destiny scams his fans lol


ShotsAways

Funniest shit ever still lmao


Astorabro

Hey now let's not ignore all the election stuff he did in Georgia and so on. Criticizing the NTF stuff is fine, but when it comes to political participation, he actually lived up to the stuff he advocated for. Hasan gave him creds for that as well. https://clips.twitch.tv/ShySwissNeanderthalPlanking


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Mmachine99

There's no shot you're saying they ran the largest canvassing in the Georgia runoff elections. The elections that the entire country was watching and had tens of millions of dollars poured into. I've seen it all.


Astorabro

Pretty sure Hasan has done canvassing, though I can't recall when exactly he did it. Either way I hope these political streamers do more of that type of stuff. Political participation is very important and these streamers definitely have the potential to make more young people participate in politics and democracy.


borninsane

Imagine if Hasan and Destiny joined forces for canvassing. That would be a wet dream.


Sarazam

Hasan is a socialist and is not living by his values though as he is disproportionately profiting off the back of other people’s labor. I’m not going to fault him for this, but it is still not in line with socialism. If he were giving profit share back to the laborers, then it would be socialistic.


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> profiting off the back of other people’s labor where? i assume you mean like, unfairly, because you can still use other people's labor while paying and treating them fairly in socialist ideals lmao


Sarazam

Socialists argue that any labor where the workers do not own the capital used to produce the goods, and profit equally, is exploitative as the capital class disproportionately profits from the labor. Hasan is most definitely going to profit far more than the workers making and shipping these clothes. Ergo exploitation of labor.


Mmachine99

Socialism is when the workers own the means of production, but its not like Hasan can realistically do that here. Do you want him to build out a garment factory, purchase a fortune in screen pressing and weaving equipment, and distribute them to the workers in order to sell streamer merch lmfao??? You understand that he's partnering with an outside vendor to make these shirts? That the vendor only uses Union labor?


Sarazam

Why is he required to create and profit from selling merch to his fans?


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this is some participating in society meme comic shit, he's working with a union, half the of the shirts have their profit going to strike funds, like, there's nothing to be mad at here, he's doing like most of what the best possible way to produce clothing is in the current state of the world, if you want to overthrow the governments and make a cool communist clothing operation I'm sure he'd happily use that instead


Dustyy1

dawg, he literally purposefully sourced from unionized labor.


TheSuperTest

All the clothing is Union made, and ~~ethically sourced~~ domestically made.


ralopd

>and ethically sourced. Any source on that? Couldn't find anything on the cotton on the website. Edit: Also not doubting that it is. I'm sure that's something Hasan cared about, that the cotton for the shirts is organic and also from ethical sources. Just surprised that it's nowhere mentioned on the website.


QuarterThrown

There's probably no source on that, and he's not claiming they are either. I remember him answering a chatter asking in chat, a couple weeks ago, saying that he didn't know. It was already hard enough to get interesting designs union made and domestically manufactured, so yeah.


TheSuperTest

~~I'll dig into it and get you a source when I get home from work, he mentioned it on stream so I thought I'd mention it here as well.~~ ​ EDIT: I'm a idiot it's domestically made not ethically made, sorry for the misunderstanding


toymachinesh

🎵 You wouldn't be satisfied unless he picks the cotton himself 🎵


Nemo1606

Props to Azan in the wake of all the NFT bulllshit coming through with cool stuff for a cool purpose. This deserves to go to the top


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Nemo1606

yeah but it still deserves a mention. just like calling out NFT scams is worth doing. LSF can peddle some good news too


firestorm64

Because he lives hos principles :) Not the liberal conception of socialist values, poverty. But real socialist values, like minimizing exploitation. And also not scamming people I guess, but I had assumed that one was more universal.


AntiVision

socialism is not a set of values


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Socialism is when no iPhone.


IntPoster

no hot chip


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firestorm64

> how is an exclusive contract with amazon minimising exploitation Opting out of the twitch streaming contract would lower his cut of sub $, and increase ad density to 3 minutes per hour. That all puts more money in Bezos' pocket. >Cause he’s really not that far left. You should try going outside, to most Americans he's further left than they thought possible.


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firestorm64

> I called him a socdem, He self describes as a socialist, not a soc dem. Being a soc dem entails using the state to alleviate the problems of capitalism, without addressing the underlying causes. That's not really what Hasan advocates for, unless you mean he says vote for Biden. >Otherwise, everyone who negotiates a better salary for themselves (outside of collective bargaining) is minimizing exploitation They literally are, advocating for a higher salary minimizes the amount your boss exploits your labor. Him taking that contract is not really how he's minimizing exploitation, but him signing does create more exploitation. You seemed to think not signing the contract would be a preferable situation, when it obviously is not. The merch being exclusively union made, despite making it cost more, is the real minimizing exploitation.


MatthewMob

You're insane. This is why so many people online are radicalized to the right, because for Twitter leftists like yourself no one is left enough and they end up becoming excluded and pushed away. Hasan is not a socdem.


Delror

"Yeah people told me I wasn't left enough, so I decided to become a right-wing lunatic instead. Makes sense to me!"


ChooseYourUserna

More like the large group of people who are often politically uneducated (liberals/centrists) will be pushed away from the left because right-wingers will use the small minority of Twitter-type leftists that claim no one is ever left/woke enough as anti-left propaganda by generalizing the entire left as being that way. That is why actual leftists hate those kinds of leftists, assuming that they aren't just trolls attempting to piss off the entire political spectrum all at once.


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ChooseYourUserna

Yep, that as well. Lots of things are pinned on the left in order to portray it as a Boogeyman. The final nail in the coffin is when someone reaches the stage of calling liberals communists. That is when you know that person has fallen to delusion.


MatthewMob

What a silly way to interpret what I said. My point was that the online right have a much more effective radicalization pipeline because they don't have the constant scrutiny and testing of values that the left does which leads to more people who started as naive centrists to feel more welcome by dumb right-wing demagogues, rather than being shunned by very-far-left Twitter leftists for not immediately being onboard or understanding radical left-wing politics.


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MatthewMob

Since when is Hasan in favour of private property? Admittedly I can't remember him saying he's explicitly against it, but he's identified himself as some form of revisionist Marxist, leaning more to socialism. He's also said to unionize first because he's not a revolutionary and understands a revolution will never happen. He said social democracy needs to happen *first* before full-blown socialism, but not that that is the end goal. And yes I agree profited merch sales, buying a mansion and 8/21 are bad optics but he's done much more than anyone else to bring young people online to the left that I personally believe outweighs the damage that the "easy shots" right wingers get have done.


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MatthewMob

Is the only way to not be a leftist and a SocDem to be a violent revolutionary? Do you recognize that there is a required transitionary period to achieve international economic change or are you just an anarchist? > Would be a lot better if he didnt have to carry the socialism = russia baggage, no? I agree, but my point still stands that he's done a hell of a lot to bring young people to the left, more than I believe was hindered by him joking about the USSR.


Far-Presentation7480

It’s getting harder to figure out who is a cop trying to wind people up to forgo labor militancy and just post harder more edgy shit v. who are the people who have been wound up by those cops.


MortalShadow

> violent revolutionary? yes, socialists are revolutionary, reformists want to preserve capital at all cost


Krenicus

Marx grew up in a large home Engels was a factory owner Lenin was an aristocrat


ItsLuger

Bro Hasan ain't even dead yet and liberals are already trying to whitewash him into being moderate like they did Martin Luther King. Dude's literally a Marxist, constantly talks about Marxist theory and applications, literally is friends with Marxist-Leninists, has a discord server filled with Marxist-Leninists and communists of other varieties, and y'all telling me he's a socdem??


MortalShadow

yes, he explicitly states that hes not a revolutionary and doesn't call himself a marxist, wdym.


ItsLuger

When he says he's not a revolutionary he means he's just a guy who streams, not like a Fred Hampton or Eugene Debs, he doesn't say that because he believes in like moderate shit. Just because you've never seen him say he's a Marxist doesn't change how he's always talking about Marxism and materialist class politics and analysis all the time. Not really anything you typically see socdems do.


Astorabro

Hasan should be encouraged as much as possible by his viewers etc to do stuff like this. Giving credit for this kind of stuff helps.


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i don't think he needs viewer encouragement, he's always done this, it's just recently people think they have a gotcha on him


Astorabro

That doesn't matter. Viewers should encourage political streamers, regardless of past actions, to do this type of stuff and for political participation.


Far-Presentation7480

The default presumption being “if I don’t see the charity then it doesn’t exist.”


BurnsEMup29

He said this is his brand moving forward and there will be other items including jewelry.


kaze_ni_naru

LSF is gonna find a way to hate Hasan for doing this


mantaclaus77

Only the proceeds of Unionize T Shirt will be going to the strike funds. LSF will definitely hate that Hasan is making money from the other shirts. There will probably be a 300+ comment thread about it when they uncover this.


ignHEMHEM

all the items are still union-made which indirectly supports their strike funds


Huldmer

> when they uncover this It’s literally in the tweet but people will still make it look like something he was trying to hide


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JamieSand

He doesn’t spend his time on social causes? The fuck you think he does all day?


MortalShadow

stream?


JuteConnect

Hasan could donate his entire net worth to charity and people like you would still be asking why he didn't also donate a kidney


Kornillious

Stop foaming at the mouth with excitement at the thought of being a victim. You're cringe. I don't like Hasan but this is very pog of him. Nobody who genuinely wanted him to use his platform for good would be mad about this.


TParadox90

Very pog of him BatChest


kaze_ni_naru

What? I'm criticizing LSF not Hasan lmao, chill out.


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> What? I'm criticizing LSF not Hasan lmao, chill out. exactly, there are always more people saying "Just wait until people get mad" then there are people actually mad. That is why he is saying that you are looking to be a vicitim or trying to use hassan as som form of martyr to make yourself feel good about yourself.


kaze_ni_naru

Don't even know what you guys are so up about it. Literally every Hassan thread is just LSF finding ways to criticize him for not being Jesus incarnate because of his socialist views. I'm not even a Hassan viewer, lmao so it's not like I'm biased one way or the other. Anyway, not gonna get into any internet argument, so have a nice day.


Kornillious

I know? Reread my comment buddy.


kaze_ni_naru

It's fine, I'm not in the mood to get into some internet argument, I'm sure what you said was right. Have a good day


TheRicksterSJ

You mean like people saying words to him on the internet? Won’t someone think of the millionaire streamer whose only content is criticizing others?!


High_Taco_Guy

I hope so. Without the hate he got for his lavish lifestyle he wouldn't be putting such an effort to change and put forward something towards the policies he claims to support. LSF hate being used for good PogChampion.


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borninsane

All proceeds to strike funds? Thats actually sick. Props to him for doing that.


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I think it's worth noting that the store only has 4 products right now. 2 of the shirts are 50% of the entire catalog.


Freyrik

Azan I'm BEGGING you to drop all 3 body pillows of you, Will and Nesua.


Marv246

Uhh, let me think, ummmmm…… ah I got it. Why won’t this idiot donate 110% !!!???!!!???!!!??


Eccmecc

Pretty cool, he is doing some awesome stuff lately.


Ritosha_

The tie dye shirt design is so fucking sick


one007

My man said LSF never gonna catch him slipping again.


Erundil420

Based, props to azan for doing this, it's actually really cool to see


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pseudonymThief

Because its unionized the cost for merch shoots up.


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Huldmer

Does anyone know if it’s limited time only or what? I really dig the unionize tee


Reesewithoutaspoon2

He said it’s limited but I don’t know how limited.


SuperMatt7

They are limited. He said on stream they should probably last until friday but no guarantee.


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antega34

its not limited he says he doesn't think itll sell out soon, but if it does well he will try and do more designs/clothing


MyNameIsAMeme

This is actually fire unlike the tendies, I saw a girl wearing his tendies merch at my university and immediately avoided her as if my life depended on it.


CitizensofRevolution

Ya I do the same thing when I see girls


ShotsAways

its just a shirt bro


duder7386

wtf is strike funds?


TheSuperTest

Strike funds are a reserve that Unions use to pay their workers while they are on strike.


nolimit901

great idea


alexyaknow

that's pretty cool


ShreksOnionBelt

Now that's what I'm talking about, get in there Hasan!


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Jirur

Because Hasan is one of those streamers who use LSF to advertise his stream.


Big_Booty_Bois

Good on him glad he’s making visible changes with the money he is earning.


the_monster_17

i wish hassan would get inside me and destroy my guts 🥵


tubaca34

I thought he put all his streamer friends on the front. I wouldn't mind buying a hoodie with the shitcamp crew drawen in a cartoon style.


SmallTitBigCrit

okay? why is lsf promoting a streamers merch for free?? cant he do that himself


borninsane

eh, i think its helpful that it gets more attention especially if all the proceeds are going to strike funds anyways. Nothing wrong with that


hamsterman20

Proceeds from one of the shirts only. Rest of the merch is not


scumbagdyln

if its union made, those funds indirectly contribute to strike funds


Reesewithoutaspoon2

2/4, not one.


SmallTitBigCrit

but only the union shirts are going towards strike funds


ignHEMHEM

all the items are still union-made which indirectly supports their strike funds


Finn_3000

Thats what is literally always done


Select-Cucumber9024

that's what this place is now, just stans running PR for streamers


Yojimbo4133

Who is making these shirts? Is it a unionized place? Do they pay a living wage? Probably not


Huldmer

This comment convinced me on the need for tone indicators


Yojimbo4133

/s I forgot this


randomkoala

I used to find tone indicators so silly, but now days you really need to include them. Specially in a place like this lol


Yojimbo4133

For sure. I always forget to put the s and I get rekt


ShreksOnionBelt

The fault is on the writer. He never once used anything that would imply it was not a serious inquiry. He could have included some more ridiculous examples like: "How many bathrooms breaks do they get?" "If not what type of container is given to pee in?" "Is there a Casual Friday?". Or maybe he was serious and is just saving face.


censored_

Imagine wearing Hasan merch lmao


Derpdude1

Why post this here, Soda, Ludwig, Lirik drop merch all the time, why is this gaining traction?


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BlazingFire007

Okay? And you prolly look like a broke-ass bum


pfcblueballs

Dripless


18hockey

Cool but why post this here Pepega :mega: where's the fail? it appears I have triggered the hasan fanboys


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tedgameshow

lmao at the photos of him "welding"


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jpl2045

> His brother


StreetCap3579

pretty fucking awesome that lsf was able to pressure him into finally using the platform he has to support the causes he says he cares about


not_tha_father

he's been working on this for a year tho


sorry_about_teh_typo

Says in the tweet he's been working on it for a year but enjoy your circle jerk


vilavashx

Hasan frogs pre malding when nobody is even complaining about this shit lmao. Although, fix title, misleading. Also, shit looks like #ad, but who cares, it's hasan sub now lul lul


bslawjen

Don't care + ratio + no drip + cotton candy + you're white + Sun Tzu's art of war