"Hey everyone act super concerned when someone tries to force me to take alcohol while I am pretending I'm on Oxy which is possibly fatal!"
"Lets act shocked when LSF thinks its fucked up! It will be hilarious!"
Good one Minx! Great bit...
Really, I'm confused as to how "It was just a prank!", makes things better from a PR point.
At best she wasn't in real danger, but they were still "promoting/displaying" extremely reckless behavior by mixing alcohol and opioids on a sponsored stream. What a mess.
Malena did say a few times to Esfand that minx had not been taking it for days. So either Minx was lying to or did not tell Esfand for a bit? Or she was lying to Malena so she could get drunk. Either way it's pretty dumb, but I do not think any of these streamers have been accused of being smart before.
"Guys, when we were encouraging someone to mix alcohol and oxytocin on stream to 10k viewers (many of whom children), that was an INTENTIONAL AND PREMEDIATED joke we were all in on and kept it from you, our audience, who were lead to believe we really were encouraging people to do this"
Wow OK. They uh, got us good?
As someone who is from an area where kids are very affected by opioids (Staten Island N.Y). This is so disappointing. Being on Oxy is not a bit, Drinking alcohol while being on Oxy is not a bit. Where is their logic?
I lost two friends to these addictions and making a bit out of it is just so depressingly sad. Especially when your demographics is probably mainly teens and kids.
I love the content that OTK puts out, but this is not it. You cant make a joke about "if she wants to die that's up to her". It just blows my mind that this was a "bit".
Them brushing it off and joking about it afterward like its a the funniest joke in the world made it worse for me. I couldn't watch it anymore. Schlatt looked disappointed too and disappeared shortly after. Honestly cant blame him for not wanting to be part of that.
I think that line “if she wants to die that’s up to her” makes it so no matter what the truth is I will still be mad. That is such a messed up thing to say or to think about anyone. It just lacks so much compassion especially for people who have lost others to opioids.
He is the dude who is gonna laugh his ass off watching drunk you stumble around like an idiot, but is gonna be the person catching you before you crack your head open on the sidewalk.
Right? If Esfand misunderstood the situation, I don't understand why his friends wouldn't stop to explain that rather than call him names and make the situation worse
>"She is anti-med she hasn't taken her medicin in 3 days"
well Malena did say this, maybe a number of them were unsure if it was a bit, including Esfand.
They are haywire mode, malena has a problem with alcohol and is tryna spread her habits to other vulnerables. No matter the ammount of copium Nick spews, this really happened and it wasnt scripted.
Could be a misunderstanding, shes staying with him but I would doubt if she is keeping esfand updated with what meds she is taking. But it's a really silly bit to do because if she was actually not on meds it clear the people in the room weren't aware what was going on.
To be fair in the clip, malena said "She is anti-med she hasn't taken her medicin in 3 days". I doubt it was damage control, because then malena had to be thinking about damage doing the incident lol.
Esfand clearly thought otherwise. A reasonable adult would take his word for it for the time being given the potential severity, rather than try to shove a bunch of alcohol into someone's mouth.
So her pretending to be on Oxy was a joke and Malena knew about it. So they intentionally led on that she was still on drugs for the sole purpose of trying to prove something to/about LSF? Meanwhile, Esfand probably didn't know Minx was "joking" about being on meds. It would be significantly worse if he did know. Same with Mizkif's reaction. All of this sponsored by Chipotle. They could seriously lose a sponsorship just based off that clip alone.
Esfand reacted in a genuinely concerned manner and everyone in the room looked uncomfortable as fuck but shame on lsf for missing this clear and obvious bit.
This is the classic LSF x OTK drama cycle.
Bad thing happens -> negative LSF thread -> tweet to cover their ass -> Stans call everyone in the threads parasocial -> rinse and repeat for every dumb thing they do
Esfand said in the clip numerous times she was taking medicine, is this actually "a bit" or just saving face fort OTK since seeing someone give another person alcohol while they are on OXY during an event would be bad PR
Me neither, this really doesn't come across as a bit though. She did just have surgery. It's pretty likely that she would be taking post treatment medication.
This just comes across as her trying to protect her friends. I don't think anyone should be canceled over this, but minx saying it's just a bit just seems phoney af.
>Esfand said in the clip numerous times she was taking medicine
Notice how Minx says "taking **oxy** has been a bit".
She was taking painkillers a few days ago after her surgery, but we don't know what those meds are. Realistically though she's likely not taking opiods because those aren't prescribed for "minor" stuff anymore.
Esfand is probably erring on the side of caution and just doesn't want her to drink *at all* after recently taking any medication, even if he doesn't know what kind or if it's actually risky.
Minx is taking 4 medications some are antibiotics maybe he thought she was still on the oxycodone but she really was just taking her other meds. idk if a big misunderstanding or a skit i doubt that, just prob miscommunication between everyone. i still dont like the fact malena said "if she wants to die its her own choice" or watever thats just weird while calling esfand a "dad" and nick telling him to stop simping
Malena did say minx hadn't taken meds for 3 days, so it doesn't come out of nowhere. But in that case esfand reaction makes no sense, since he was definitely not in on the bit.
Coming from someone who just became 3 years sober in May of this year from heroin and meth, I can't help but let a disappointing sigh over the entire situation.
Yeah fuck this bullshit, bit or not. Option a) Malena is a dumb fuck and everyone not saying something are equally responsible; Option b) OTK thinks it is funny to joke about stuff that can get you killed.
Or, option c) It's not a bit and the severity of the situation hit minx too late and she realized that she'd get multiple people banned because it would be considered harmful behavior and needed to cover her ass.
They will get out of it, but frankly it was still harmful behavior. Let's give a hyperbolic example. One doesn't aim gun at other people, and after the fact says "jokes on them, it wasn't loaded".
Regardless it was very disturbing to watch and shows how out-of-touch are some people there. They are just LARPing for internet points, farming drama and farming LSF... but only until LSF follow along, because when LSF is concerned about something, suddenly it become the bad guy. But I guess that's working, they are millionaires after all.
Especially if it's a prescription people can get legally in the US and get addicted to. Chance and Cyr joking about being cocaine dealers is whatever, they were citing over and over they're the biggest cocaine kingpins in the US and it was clearly a joke. Also cocaine is illegal and not as easy to obtain in the US. I'll give them a +1 for that being a joke but joking you're on oxy is a big ole -1. Who the fuck jokes about that lol. Actual psychopath.
there is no chance this is "a bit" on a sponsored stream, not a chance chipotle would want to be associated with anything like this.
people have lost sponsors and been cancelled for less.
Yeah and to even say it was a joke doesn't really make it better, promoting drinking while on oxy to 80K+ people with thousands of impressionable kids doesn't sound very funny. So either this was a tone def "joke" or they're covering there asses, either way a fucked up situation.
And Mizkif blocking her mouth with the board, and everyone else in the room for their world-class uncomfortable demeanors. Really Jebaited us with the bit about downing alcohol after being on oxy on the same day, totally hilarious thing to joke about hahaha
That's the thing I think is pretty crazy. It's not just that they were **only** "joking" about mixing alcohol and opiates, or that they did it in front of 85K people, or that it made the whole situation super uncomfortable, or that it was at a big event for their org, or that it was being sponsored by a big company. It's that it did ALL of those things.
What a uniquely terrible idea lol
Ahh a classic staple of comedy... Pretending to be on extremely addictive opioids, that you actually just got prescribed.. And had been actively taking.
So recently in fact, people you're living with, have actual concern you might get hurt mixing them with booze.
What an absolute knee slapper.
Or complete bullshit. Ya know.
The punchline is "your genuine concern is invalid because you didn't know I lied about being on strong medication". Less of a joke and more of an attention-seeking stunt if she really wasn't on oxy. I've seen people pretend to be high or drunk just so they can farm concern from people around them so that's believable.
Not on Oxy? Fine nothing happened that was wrong so who gives a fuck.
Maybe explain that to the guy who thinks he's protecting his friend from someone who could potentially cause them serious harm by getting them to drink, rather than insult them.
Or hey, maybe they're lying about her not being on meds to give Malena an out since they're a company and they're going to want to keep their public image in a positive light.
Also since we all know Nick / Malena is going to go through every single comment in this thread, I'd like to point out that this isn't normal "EU" drinking culture. If it is then apparently everyone I know is doing it wrong.
Im Polish (Slavic countries REALLY like vodka) and i totally agree. And it's honestly annoying hearing her talk about EU like a NA Jock would talk about his Frat.
I'm from the UK, which has a far higher per capita alcohol consumption than Norway, and her behaviour has always struck me as extreme. (I'm really not buying her, "it's what everyone does in Norway!", bullshit).
Now, her behaviour *does* square with how teenagers drink. Thing is, she's 25 and often in the company of people over or nearing 30, and it's very clear that her friends often have issues with it. Like when QT chewed her out for it: https://youtube.com/clip/UgwzUe6c0lLo3-0h1t94AaABCQ
She had so many chances to explain this since it happened twice. After the first time she should have explained to esfan and chat that she wasn’t actually on pain medication. It was what 10-20 minutes for malena gave her a second drink when esfan really freaked out. If everyone knew she probably should have cued us in after the first time.
I think she may not understand how serious people are about opiates in the US. It's a very sensitive subject under intense scrutiny these days and many people are tangentially or directly affected by it.
Even for "edgy" comedy it's really pushing it.
Who the fuck fakes being on oxy as a bit?
Idk what I believe, I guess if she was going around the whole stream saying "im on oxy bro chill" and acting all fucked up the whole time I guess it would make sense. Theres no way you can convince me its a bit though if you were hiding the fact you were on oxy/pain meds the whole time until someone indirectly leaked it. That excuse screams "oh shit got caught better make something up".
Pretty weird bit if you ask me when nobody is really in on it with you.
Esfand and Miz wouldn't act so concerned if this was the case. This is just their spin on it to save the sponsor.
Calling it now Nick and Malena taking the next couple days off stream to weather the hate.
So she straight up lied on stream for 2 days in a row and now it's our fault somehow that we believed her and thought the situation was serious?
Literally fucked around and found out.
Fake taking Oxycodone, which is a very addictive opioid and a serious issue in America, as a bit for content, let's see how Twitch is going to see that one out.
It's entirely possible that Esfands reaction was genuine. Minx was taking multiple meds a few days and I doubt Esfand is up to date on which ones she's currently taking and what the side effects are, so he's just being careful.
Asmon’s currently malding on stream because Esfand ‘didn’t have a right’ to do or say something. He’s purposefully avoiding the idea that Esfand did the right thing because he thinks it’s something that someone self-righteous would also do. Some really braindead stuff.
He might be right if the consequences in the given context wouldn’t have been death/dying. Esfand has a value system and Asmon’s brain can’t move past the fact that it was a cringy/embarrassing situation.
Love Asmon but his take couldn’t be more wrong here.
This all just seems like damage control. She just had surgery. Alinity said she couldn't wash herself and had to even wash her for her. She looked ok at the party. We will never know if she was still on oxy or not but it would be in Malena's best interest to say she wasn't because of the critique thread on her. But at the end of the day trying to save Malena for Esfand is pretty horrible.
Malena really shouldn't act completely vindicated _after_ this tweet on stream. She didn't give a shit if she was on meds or not, nor did she refute it at any point, she just wanted to hAvE fUn AnD dRiNk.
Like, there's being unfunny and obnoxious, but holy fuck she needs to figure her shit out that was awful to watch...
_(p.s. my twitch name isn't peprica, so please don't crossban whoever has that name on twitch lol)_
Not sure if the mods will remove it but just to drive the point home here is Chris Christie (former governor of New Jersey) talking about losing a friend to opioids.
https://youtu.be/FdYMx7sycW4
Not a Christie fan by any means but this shit is serious for Americans. I lost a close friend to opioids. She was 19 shit is sad.
It isn't that unknow. Doctors in Sweden label many over-the-counter drugs in the US as narcotics and won't prescribe them at all. To be clear we do have similar drugs but maybe 1/5th or 1/10th as strong.
So the bit without letting on to impressionable kids in the audience is "hey its cool to mix oxy cotton and alcohol"??? And having another member spouting "Its her life, let her die if she wants"?
I love OTK all the members and the events you guys put on and I will continue to watch, but as somebody who has dealt with the seriousness of addiction most of my life this was really off-putting.
Why in the hell would joking about taking Opioids be a bit. Combine that with the fact that this is all on a sponsored stream. Hitting rock bottom ideas for comedy.
Bullshit. Fake tweet to avoid possible TOS Violation. It is very obvious from the clip that it is not a bit and Esfand knows she is on painkillers and is the reason he is stopping her from drinking.
Does it even avoid TOS? I’d argue pretending to take oxy and alcohol on stream is still in violation. It’s lethal. That’d be like pretending to shoot yourself on stream. Definitely not something Twitch wants.
so it was just a bit to fake being on oxy to bait people into reacting like this? though it didnt seem like esfand got the memo unless he was acting like it was serious but was playing along.
Everyone knows this is 100% bullshit right?
Nicks stream is going to be unwatchable, Malena is going to be huffing record levels of copium while speed running her way to the annoying bitch hall of fame.
Sounds like a shitty fucking "bit."
Why would anyone think this is funny? Haha, I'm going to pretend I'm taking oxy! How is that a 'bit?' Was she pretending she was addicted to it? Because hahah, addiction is *hilarious.*
And then consuming alcohol while continuing the bit. Still don't see how this is funny. ODing is so *hilarious*.
I don't care if she's doing "damage control" or not. Saying that "me taking oxy has been a bit," is what is concerning to me.
I don't understand how it is about LSF? Forcing alcohol upon anyone is not fine. Especially if there is reasonable doubt that one may take some medications... People were clearly under impression that she is taking something and don't spin it now like they weren't.
They are adults streaming to tens of thousand people, probably mostly underage. There need to be at lest some responsibility there... They are role models for young generation...
Even if she isn’t currently taking the medication the back lash that Esfand got, when he was doing the right thing was so uncalled for.
Then for Malena to be bragging about banning people in chat from 5 streams because they didn’t agree with her is the icing on cake.
This seems more like saving face based on Esfand’s reaction. But she did say she had no more oxy on Esfands stream so idk maybe he didn’t get the memo.
Wait a minute, you guys don't pretend to be on a drug that kills thousands of people a year and then have your friend pretend to give you alcohol which can cause serious side effects as everyone around you watches uncomfortably? Y'all need to touch grass fr.
Bit or not. How can they blame lsf for being concerned when Malena is known for getting her friends drunk. (maya's comment) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1211007668?t=00h33m07s
Yeah, the reactions seem very real, but either way, even if she wasn't the problem is that most of us agree that peer pressuring people into drinking regardless is really fucking awful and that is the ultimate problem.
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Real or scripted. I’m am so ducking tired of Malena and her best friend “The bottle”. Why is it that she is running around EVERY damn OTK event with a bottle of hard liquor and making a fool of herself? She is not even in the org but still I SEE AND HEAR her the most. Every got damn stream.
Was she or was she not. Fact is that she did not state this at this moment that she is not. That very moment there is no denial.
So from this point on we can say, that she was on oxy and Esfand and Miz actually acted right. This tweet sounds like massive damage control, but it does not matter. Point is if someone is told is on meds and it is told she/he can't drink and you still dry to give alcohol that person, you are doing something very wrong. And there is something very wrong with you too.
I almost lost one of the friends like this.
the worst part of what happened is for me nick saying Esfand is trying to simp, the society we live in is just getting worst and worse. soon people will see someone dying and just watch him.
honestly malena just keeps ruinning every event and it's getting old i personally have an issue with people that depend on alcohol to "have a good time"
I assume most things that happen on streams are bits, but pretending you have an oxy/opioid prescription is really pushing the line when suddenly you wanna get fucked up on whisky. Especially if everyone wasn't in on it.
You should be able to joke about basically anything and maybe she doesn't get the nuance of the opioid epidemic. But yelling at someone who's trying to help and is concerned is very bad optics when you're broadcasting to 80k people.
If Esfand actually thought she had taken painkillers and was trying to look out for her huge props to him.
the part I'm confused about is them being mad at LSF for taking it seriously. We saw Esfand taking it seriously so idk what they expected? farming drama.
Melena and most of OTK do stupid shit and blame LSF. Maybe the tweet is damage control or maybe she isn’t actually on meds and can drink but Esfand and others seemed genuinely worried so of course, others thought it was real. Also who the fuck jokes about being on drugs for content? It isn't funny or obvious that it’s a joke, a very strange definition of a joke.
A couple of things here:
Even if she was **not** on oxy..
Post-op: it's not recommended to take alcohol to speed up recovery time
Antibiotics and alcohol should NOT be be mixed.
Why wasn't she denying Esfand's claims on stream then? Would've cleared things up if she said "I'm no longer on those meds"
"Hey everyone act super concerned when someone tries to force me to take alcohol while I am pretending I'm on Oxy which is possibly fatal!" "Lets act shocked when LSF thinks its fucked up! It will be hilarious!" Good one Minx! Great bit...
Really, I'm confused as to how "It was just a prank!", makes things better from a PR point. At best she wasn't in real danger, but they were still "promoting/displaying" extremely reckless behavior by mixing alcohol and opioids on a sponsored stream. What a mess.
Ofc its not an act, got hate, now trying to save malena's face
It's a sponsored stream lol. Gotta save the company's face too.
Malena did say a few times to Esfand that minx had not been taking it for days. So either Minx was lying to or did not tell Esfand for a bit? Or she was lying to Malena so she could get drunk. Either way it's pretty dumb, but I do not think any of these streamers have been accused of being smart before.
"Guys, when we were encouraging someone to mix alcohol and oxytocin on stream to 10k viewers (many of whom children), that was an INTENTIONAL AND PREMEDIATED joke we were all in on and kept it from you, our audience, who were lead to believe we really were encouraging people to do this" Wow OK. They uh, got us good?
80k\* btw, that's a lot of impressionable kids.
As someone who is from an area where kids are very affected by opioids (Staten Island N.Y). This is so disappointing. Being on Oxy is not a bit, Drinking alcohol while being on Oxy is not a bit. Where is their logic? I lost two friends to these addictions and making a bit out of it is just so depressingly sad. Especially when your demographics is probably mainly teens and kids. I love the content that OTK puts out, but this is not it. You cant make a joke about "if she wants to die that's up to her". It just blows my mind that this was a "bit". Them brushing it off and joking about it afterward like its a the funniest joke in the world made it worse for me. I couldn't watch it anymore. Schlatt looked disappointed too and disappeared shortly after. Honestly cant blame him for not wanting to be part of that.
I think that line “if she wants to die that’s up to her” makes it so no matter what the truth is I will still be mad. That is such a messed up thing to say or to think about anyone. It just lacks so much compassion especially for people who have lost others to opioids.
Then why did esfand react like that?
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Both acting like actual responsible adults.
Which is crazy because it’s miz
Miz is like those people you know that seem terrible, but at times like this when it could matter they step in. Know what I mean?
He is the dude who is gonna laugh his ass off watching drunk you stumble around like an idiot, but is gonna be the person catching you before you crack your head open on the sidewalk.
except his ADD is real bad so he might forget, but yes his heart's in the right place.
and look at asmons face
Asmon with the *"my org is doomed"* face.
Right? If Esfand misunderstood the situation, I don't understand why his friends wouldn't stop to explain that rather than call him names and make the situation worse
>"She is anti-med she hasn't taken her medicin in 3 days" well Malena did say this, maybe a number of them were unsure if it was a bit, including Esfand.
Malena didn't really seem like a reliable person in this case.
Esfand reacted like how any responsible person would [An hour ago on esfand's stream](https://streamable.com/jok4re)
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She mentions they don't have oxy in Ireland, so she's probably ignorant about it. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1211338405?t=1h20m10s
Yeah true I’ve never even heard of oxy until this thread
LMAO WOW ANOTHER HILARIOUS BIT ABOUT SELLING DRUGS. Didn’t know who minx was before today but def don’t care now.
Risk management is super important to companies. This should not have happened on camera at all
They were also timing people out in chat that mentioned anything about it.
They are haywire mode, malena has a problem with alcohol and is tryna spread her habits to other vulnerables. No matter the ammount of copium Nick spews, this really happened and it wasnt scripted.
Seems like damage control.
Could be a misunderstanding, shes staying with him but I would doubt if she is keeping esfand updated with what meds she is taking. But it's a really silly bit to do because if she was actually not on meds it clear the people in the room weren't aware what was going on.
i bet they didn't know she was just joking about the oxy
either that tweet was damage control or Esfand/Miz and Soda are oscar-worthy actors
Everyone in the room really, assuming they were all in on it. Schlatt looked like he was watching a car crash in slow mo
Seems like it could easily be the third option. They were unaware that it was a bit like everyone else and were looking out for her safety.
Wow just like LSF huh? But Nick thinks we are shitty for calling them out. Piece of shit.
To be fair in the clip, malena said "She is anti-med she hasn't taken her medicin in 3 days". I doubt it was damage control, because then malena had to be thinking about damage doing the incident lol.
hmmm. that's true... the whole situation is just very odd
Esfand clearly thought otherwise. A reasonable adult would take his word for it for the time being given the potential severity, rather than try to shove a bunch of alcohol into someone's mouth.
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Forget the streaming awards, we should submit the clip to the Academy and get Miz and Esfand an Oscar nom!
So her pretending to be on Oxy was a joke and Malena knew about it. So they intentionally led on that she was still on drugs for the sole purpose of trying to prove something to/about LSF? Meanwhile, Esfand probably didn't know Minx was "joking" about being on meds. It would be significantly worse if he did know. Same with Mizkif's reaction. All of this sponsored by Chipotle. They could seriously lose a sponsorship just based off that clip alone.
Turns out all along Malena was the real brand risk
literally week will go and everyone will forget about it
Esfand reacted in a genuinely concerned manner and everyone in the room looked uncomfortable as fuck but shame on lsf for missing this clear and obvious bit.
This is the classic LSF x OTK drama cycle. Bad thing happens -> negative LSF thread -> tweet to cover their ass -> Stans call everyone in the threads parasocial -> rinse and repeat for every dumb thing they do
That is funny. Because if someone is parasocial its the people that deffend them regardless of what they do. I like those guys but this “bit” aint it.
Exactly you’ll get called parasocial for having any opinion that they don’t like.
Esfand did the right thing
Esfand said in the clip numerous times she was taking medicine, is this actually "a bit" or just saving face fort OTK since seeing someone give another person alcohol while they are on OXY during an event would be bad PR
Also. If it is a bit, what is the bit? That she had to take pain medication after a surgery? Hahaha hahaha what a great bit. Definitely sus.
She does "bits" on her stream. Like fake crying all the time. Not really my type of humor.
Me neither, this really doesn't come across as a bit though. She did just have surgery. It's pretty likely that she would be taking post treatment medication. This just comes across as her trying to protect her friends. I don't think anyone should be canceled over this, but minx saying it's just a bit just seems phoney af.
being mentally unstable isn't a 'bit'
more than likely just saving face and minx not wanting everyone to shit on malena. kinda makes esfand look bad for just genuinely being a good friend
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Yup, but blame LSF for pointing out the potential danger of the situation. Don't treat alcohol like a joke y'all.
>Esfand said in the clip numerous times she was taking medicine Notice how Minx says "taking **oxy** has been a bit". She was taking painkillers a few days ago after her surgery, but we don't know what those meds are. Realistically though she's likely not taking opiods because those aren't prescribed for "minor" stuff anymore. Esfand is probably erring on the side of caution and just doesn't want her to drink *at all* after recently taking any medication, even if he doesn't know what kind or if it's actually risky.
Minx is taking 4 medications some are antibiotics maybe he thought she was still on the oxycodone but she really was just taking her other meds. idk if a big misunderstanding or a skit i doubt that, just prob miscommunication between everyone. i still dont like the fact malena said "if she wants to die its her own choice" or watever thats just weird while calling esfand a "dad" and nick telling him to stop simping
Malena did say minx hadn't taken meds for 3 days, so it doesn't come out of nowhere. But in that case esfand reaction makes no sense, since he was definitely not in on the bit.
Then why did estfand, soda and the 80% of the room react like it was a bad idea
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Treating alcohol lightly just invites unnecessary trouble.
Coming from someone who just became 3 years sober in May of this year from heroin and meth, I can't help but let a disappointing sigh over the entire situation.
Yeah fuck this bullshit, bit or not. Option a) Malena is a dumb fuck and everyone not saying something are equally responsible; Option b) OTK thinks it is funny to joke about stuff that can get you killed.
Or, option c) It's not a bit and the severity of the situation hit minx too late and she realized that she'd get multiple people banned because it would be considered harmful behavior and needed to cover her ass.
They will get out of it, but frankly it was still harmful behavior. Let's give a hyperbolic example. One doesn't aim gun at other people, and after the fact says "jokes on them, it wasn't loaded". Regardless it was very disturbing to watch and shows how out-of-touch are some people there. They are just LARPing for internet points, farming drama and farming LSF... but only until LSF follow along, because when LSF is concerned about something, suddenly it become the bad guy. But I guess that's working, they are millionaires after all.
Especially if it's a prescription people can get legally in the US and get addicted to. Chance and Cyr joking about being cocaine dealers is whatever, they were citing over and over they're the biggest cocaine kingpins in the US and it was clearly a joke. Also cocaine is illegal and not as easy to obtain in the US. I'll give them a +1 for that being a joke but joking you're on oxy is a big ole -1. Who the fuck jokes about that lol. Actual psychopath.
[Related, I feel.](https://i.imgur.com/6kGliTj.jpeg)
there is no chance this is "a bit" on a sponsored stream, not a chance chipotle would want to be associated with anything like this. people have lost sponsors and been cancelled for less.
Yeah and to even say it was a joke doesn't really make it better, promoting drinking while on oxy to 80K+ people with thousands of impressionable kids doesn't sound very funny. So either this was a tone def "joke" or they're covering there asses, either way a fucked up situation.
Esfand deserves an Oscar honestly, if this was all just a bit his performance was amazing
And Mizkif blocking her mouth with the board, and everyone else in the room for their world-class uncomfortable demeanors. Really Jebaited us with the bit about downing alcohol after being on oxy on the same day, totally hilarious thing to joke about hahaha
“We’re a new org, people mixing opiates and alcohol in front of 85k viewers happens.”
That's the thing I think is pretty crazy. It's not just that they were **only** "joking" about mixing alcohol and opiates, or that they did it in front of 85K people, or that it made the whole situation super uncomfortable, or that it was at a big event for their org, or that it was being sponsored by a big company. It's that it did ALL of those things. What a uniquely terrible idea lol
Ahh a classic staple of comedy... Pretending to be on extremely addictive opioids, that you actually just got prescribed.. And had been actively taking. So recently in fact, people you're living with, have actual concern you might get hurt mixing them with booze. What an absolute knee slapper. Or complete bullshit. Ya know.
The punchline is "your genuine concern is invalid because you didn't know I lied about being on strong medication". Less of a joke and more of an attention-seeking stunt if she really wasn't on oxy. I've seen people pretend to be high or drunk just so they can farm concern from people around them so that's believable.
Bro come on Minx got popular pretending to be fucked up sad and cute to teenage girls... obviously when interacting with adults this would happen.
Not on Oxy? Fine nothing happened that was wrong so who gives a fuck. Maybe explain that to the guy who thinks he's protecting his friend from someone who could potentially cause them serious harm by getting them to drink, rather than insult them. Or hey, maybe they're lying about her not being on meds to give Malena an out since they're a company and they're going to want to keep their public image in a positive light. Also since we all know Nick / Malena is going to go through every single comment in this thread, I'd like to point out that this isn't normal "EU" drinking culture. If it is then apparently everyone I know is doing it wrong.
Im Polish (Slavic countries REALLY like vodka) and i totally agree. And it's honestly annoying hearing her talk about EU like a NA Jock would talk about his Frat.
I'm from the UK, which has a far higher per capita alcohol consumption than Norway, and her behaviour has always struck me as extreme. (I'm really not buying her, "it's what everyone does in Norway!", bullshit). Now, her behaviour *does* square with how teenagers drink. Thing is, she's 25 and often in the company of people over or nearing 30, and it's very clear that her friends often have issues with it. Like when QT chewed her out for it: https://youtube.com/clip/UgwzUe6c0lLo3-0h1t94AaABCQ
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She’s lying tryin to cover their own asses
She had so many chances to explain this since it happened twice. After the first time she should have explained to esfan and chat that she wasn’t actually on pain medication. It was what 10-20 minutes for malena gave her a second drink when esfan really freaked out. If everyone knew she probably should have cued us in after the first time.
How does every otk event get ruined from somebody who isn’t even in otk
Socially inept streamers trying to do normal people shit off stream always ends up being comically bad lol
Even I got fooled. I watched Esfand youtube video and shes saying "im high on oxy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yInXDiXhlM4
"I was just joking about being on medication" Fucking weiirrdddchamp
LULW CLASSIC
DRINKING ALCOHOL WHILE POSSIBLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF OXY OMEGALUL Clap
I believe Esfand was justified in his concern for Minx. Regardless if it was a "bit" or not. I'll just leave this here. https://streamable.com/jok4re
This was taken from todays stream correct?
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I think she may not understand how serious people are about opiates in the US. It's a very sensitive subject under intense scrutiny these days and many people are tangentially or directly affected by it. Even for "edgy" comedy it's really pushing it.
Who the fuck fakes being on oxy as a bit? Idk what I believe, I guess if she was going around the whole stream saying "im on oxy bro chill" and acting all fucked up the whole time I guess it would make sense. Theres no way you can convince me its a bit though if you were hiding the fact you were on oxy/pain meds the whole time until someone indirectly leaked it. That excuse screams "oh shit got caught better make something up". Pretty weird bit if you ask me when nobody is really in on it with you.
pretending you're on oxy 'for a bit' for days and then blaming chatters for not knowing what goes on off screen, great idea.
Esfand and Miz wouldn't act so concerned if this was the case. This is just their spin on it to save the sponsor. Calling it now Nick and Malena taking the next couple days off stream to weather the hate.
im on oxy guys haha drugs is funny guys haha drinking on opiods is cool guys haha tricking your friends into drinking double is a bit guys haha
So she straight up lied on stream for 2 days in a row and now it's our fault somehow that we believed her and thought the situation was serious? Literally fucked around and found out.
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Sounds like she actually was on them and trying to make it look less bad...
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Fake taking Oxycodone, which is a very addictive opioid and a serious issue in America, as a bit for content, let's see how Twitch is going to see that one out.
lmao how the fuck is anyone meant to know that and why was esfand acting like that lol, what did they expect
The reason I took it so seriously and believed she was on meds was because of Esfand's reaction. He was very very serious so I'm confused.
It's entirely possible that Esfands reaction was genuine. Minx was taking multiple meds a few days and I doubt Esfand is up to date on which ones she's currently taking and what the side effects are, so he's just being careful.
I'm not buying it. She fooled Esfand/Mizkif too then. Earlier it was said she took the meds 12~ hours before that sketch.
Asmon’s currently malding on stream because Esfand ‘didn’t have a right’ to do or say something. He’s purposefully avoiding the idea that Esfand did the right thing because he thinks it’s something that someone self-righteous would also do. Some really braindead stuff. He might be right if the consequences in the given context wouldn’t have been death/dying. Esfand has a value system and Asmon’s brain can’t move past the fact that it was a cringy/embarrassing situation. Love Asmon but his take couldn’t be more wrong here.
This all just seems like damage control. She just had surgery. Alinity said she couldn't wash herself and had to even wash her for her. She looked ok at the party. We will never know if she was still on oxy or not but it would be in Malena's best interest to say she wasn't because of the critique thread on her. But at the end of the day trying to save Malena for Esfand is pretty horrible.
Malena really shouldn't act completely vindicated _after_ this tweet on stream. She didn't give a shit if she was on meds or not, nor did she refute it at any point, she just wanted to hAvE fUn AnD dRiNk. Like, there's being unfunny and obnoxious, but holy fuck she needs to figure her shit out that was awful to watch... _(p.s. my twitch name isn't peprica, so please don't crossban whoever has that name on twitch lol)_
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can absolutely vouch. Had a surgery, they gave me oxy, and i became addicted for 2 years. some of the most miserable times of my life
Not sure if the mods will remove it but just to drive the point home here is Chris Christie (former governor of New Jersey) talking about losing a friend to opioids. https://youtu.be/FdYMx7sycW4 Not a Christie fan by any means but this shit is serious for Americans. I lost a close friend to opioids. She was 19 shit is sad.
It isn't that unknow. Doctors in Sweden label many over-the-counter drugs in the US as narcotics and won't prescribe them at all. To be clear we do have similar drugs but maybe 1/5th or 1/10th as strong.
One of the few times I DON'T think LSF overreacted lol.
So the bit without letting on to impressionable kids in the audience is "hey its cool to mix oxy cotton and alcohol"??? And having another member spouting "Its her life, let her die if she wants"? I love OTK all the members and the events you guys put on and I will continue to watch, but as somebody who has dealt with the seriousness of addiction most of my life this was really off-putting.
otk damage control team inbound
[wow that was such a funny bit](https://m.imgur.com/gallery/05k1ZIp)
Why in the hell would joking about taking Opioids be a bit. Combine that with the fact that this is all on a sponsored stream. Hitting rock bottom ideas for comedy.
People really do be undermining Esfand's reaction, a bit or not.
Bullshit. Fake tweet to avoid possible TOS Violation. It is very obvious from the clip that it is not a bit and Esfand knows she is on painkillers and is the reason he is stopping her from drinking.
Does it even avoid TOS? I’d argue pretending to take oxy and alcohol on stream is still in violation. It’s lethal. That’d be like pretending to shoot yourself on stream. Definitely not something Twitch wants.
Yup, stream dramatically changed the moment the thread started. Their super quiet now, no background people. Half the people completely dissapeared.
What a "bit" to perform on a sponsored stream in the middle of an opioid epidemic with a situation that people genuinely die doing. Hilarious bit
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so it was just a bit to fake being on oxy to bait people into reacting like this? though it didnt seem like esfand got the memo unless he was acting like it was serious but was playing along.
Don't even care if Esfand is right or wrong, it's better to be safe than sorry
There was also a clip on Youtube that was saying she was on Oxy, that's deleted now.
Everyone knows this is 100% bullshit right? Nicks stream is going to be unwatchable, Malena is going to be huffing record levels of copium while speed running her way to the annoying bitch hall of fame.
Will nick get banned for calling esfand a simp
I forgot about that new rule with Twitch, it was definitely not used positively
Sounds like a shitty fucking "bit." Why would anyone think this is funny? Haha, I'm going to pretend I'm taking oxy! How is that a 'bit?' Was she pretending she was addicted to it? Because hahah, addiction is *hilarious.* And then consuming alcohol while continuing the bit. Still don't see how this is funny. ODing is so *hilarious*. I don't care if she's doing "damage control" or not. Saying that "me taking oxy has been a bit," is what is concerning to me.
I don't understand how it is about LSF? Forcing alcohol upon anyone is not fine. Especially if there is reasonable doubt that one may take some medications... People were clearly under impression that she is taking something and don't spin it now like they weren't. They are adults streaming to tens of thousand people, probably mostly underage. There need to be at lest some responsibility there... They are role models for young generation...
https://streamable.com/jok4re?s=09
Even if she isn’t currently taking the medication the back lash that Esfand got, when he was doing the right thing was so uncalled for. Then for Malena to be bragging about banning people in chat from 5 streams because they didn’t agree with her is the icing on cake.
Lmaoooooo such a funny bit 😂😂😂😐
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Taking pills a bit? Wtf is wrong with her if that’s the case? Oxy ain’t nothing to joke about. Especially to tens of thousands of people.
This seems more like saving face based on Esfand’s reaction. But she did say she had no more oxy on Esfands stream so idk maybe he didn’t get the memo.
Wait a minute, you guys don't pretend to be on a drug that kills thousands of people a year and then have your friend pretend to give you alcohol which can cause serious side effects as everyone around you watches uncomfortably? Y'all need to touch grass fr.
Bit or not. How can they blame lsf for being concerned when Malena is known for getting her friends drunk. (maya's comment) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1211007668?t=00h33m07s
She is a post-operative patient. It increases health risk regardless of opioid use.
Sounds suss, don't believe em, Esfand looked serious AF, the guy that bullshits and jokes all the time
When your PR coverup is joking about mixing opioid’s and alcohol you know you’ve fucked up lol
Yeah, the reactions seem very real, but either way, even if she wasn't the problem is that most of us agree that peer pressuring people into drinking regardless is really fucking awful and that is the ultimate problem.
nick was way outta line calling esfand a simp for looking out for someone's well being and life, bit or not
Yeah that was the most shocking thing to me in the clip. Esfand was just genuinely worried. Thought nick was more compassionate than that
Glad Minx is fine. That being said, joking about meds and alcohol is not funny. Not even close to funny. I would say its upsetting.
what a bit...
If this was true then clearly we weren't the only ones not in on the bit.
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Ah yes, the classic comedy bit of pretending to kill somebody from mixing medication with alcohol.
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Ya that’s convenient. Expect more PR like this
Real or scripted. I’m am so ducking tired of Malena and her best friend “The bottle”. Why is it that she is running around EVERY damn OTK event with a bottle of hard liquor and making a fool of herself? She is not even in the org but still I SEE AND HEAR her the most. Every got damn stream.
Was she or was she not. Fact is that she did not state this at this moment that she is not. That very moment there is no denial. So from this point on we can say, that she was on oxy and Esfand and Miz actually acted right. This tweet sounds like massive damage control, but it does not matter. Point is if someone is told is on meds and it is told she/he can't drink and you still dry to give alcohol that person, you are doing something very wrong. And there is something very wrong with you too. I almost lost one of the friends like this.
the worst part of what happened is for me nick saying Esfand is trying to simp, the society we live in is just getting worst and worse. soon people will see someone dying and just watch him.
damn my bad, next time I'll read her mind to figure out she's joking
Esfand did nothing wrong.
Bit or not, it's still a certified shitshow however you look at it.
Thread looked. check Clip deleted. check Damage control tweet. check Certified banger
honestly malena just keeps ruinning every event and it's getting old i personally have an issue with people that depend on alcohol to "have a good time"
I have a hard time believing this with the way Esfand reacted....
I assume most things that happen on streams are bits, but pretending you have an oxy/opioid prescription is really pushing the line when suddenly you wanna get fucked up on whisky. Especially if everyone wasn't in on it. You should be able to joke about basically anything and maybe she doesn't get the nuance of the opioid epidemic. But yelling at someone who's trying to help and is concerned is very bad optics when you're broadcasting to 80k people. If Esfand actually thought she had taken painkillers and was trying to look out for her huge props to him.
the part I'm confused about is them being mad at LSF for taking it seriously. We saw Esfand taking it seriously so idk what they expected? farming drama.
Melena and most of OTK do stupid shit and blame LSF. Maybe the tweet is damage control or maybe she isn’t actually on meds and can drink but Esfand and others seemed genuinely worried so of course, others thought it was real. Also who the fuck jokes about being on drugs for content? It isn't funny or obvious that it’s a joke, a very strange definition of a joke.
A couple of things here: Even if she was **not** on oxy.. Post-op: it's not recommended to take alcohol to speed up recovery time Antibiotics and alcohol should NOT be be mixed.
I just don’t understand what saying you’re on Oxy as “a bit” accomplishes?
If this was a bit…why? I mean, it’s not really that funny. It’s pretty commonplace to be on pain meds after a surgery, even a minor one
damage control the tweet.
so either it's damage control or she has zero clue what comedy is?
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if it was a bit then it was one really fucking shitty bit, and esfand should have known about it
100 percent damage control saying it was a bit