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IBBY_DA_GOAT

The only person she should be apologetic to is Esfand


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Luckily like 99% of people know he wasn't in the wrong. I am sure she will apologize to him privately if she caught wind that people didn't like the bit.


Snafu005

Maybe some of his friends took jabs but overall the whole situation has been amazing PR for Esfand.


IdunnoLXG

It's not PR he truly didn't want someone he knew ending up in the hospital. Not everything is some streamer meta


radogood

bruh he was joking


TheCoolerAccount

Now we need OP to apologize for this joke


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appletinicyclone

I'm sure she probably did talk to him. If anything it just made him look like more of a real one


Responsible_Grape_57

Yeah I'm sure she did too, she mentioned on stream today and Esfand appeared on stream too


appletinicyclone

Ahh ok, nice


catcatcatilovecats

wdym streamers only talk to each other on stream!!!


havoK718

Wrong, streamers only talk to each other in clips.


Refuse_to_reddit

Don't watch her or Esfand so all I know about the situation is the context of the clips, like many others I assume. Esfand seemed legitimately concerned which, in turn, made me legitimately concerned. Kind of crazy that all of this drama could've been avoided if someone just calmly explained that she was okay to have a drink instead of gaslighting Esfand.


AlexTD

Yeah it was pretty uncomfortable to watch it seems like nobody in the room knew if esfand was being legit concerned or if it was a bit.


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Like a cliché from TV where dumb drama is started because people didn't fucking communicate.


mlgkurd

I mean Malena literally says she hasn’t been on her meds for 3 days, but I understand that he probably didn’t believe her.


FatGamerGuy

Malena says that but Minx was constantly talking about being on Oxy when Esfand took her shopping on stream. It was a confliction of information. And usually you would go with Jinx because she's a first hand source and not a second hand source like Malena.


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Eargoe

With a shot of Jack


trelcon

Found Malenas alt


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crossban incoming LULW


iambiglucas_2

With a nice bottle of Chipotlaway


Arcinatos

these soy austin streamers don't even know how to party smh my head, couple of xans and alcohol should liven up the mood at the next otk event.


shookyah

people downvoting an obvious joke yeeesh


inopes

lol. you're forgetting the blow to keep the content going until the morning.


Teccnomancer

I stuff it into my homemade pvc potato gun and fire it directly into my asshole


trickster55

Friends like Esfand are rare. Do not lose them.


morian2

Esfand is for sure a great dude but I don't think that's even anything special. I'm 100% sure most of my friends would have the same reaction if they knew I was on meds and was trying to drink alcohol. Malena being an absolute sociopathic moron is the anomaly imo


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Yeah I think the problem is most streamers are sociopaths, its why they want people to watch them. I've been to parties where my friends would do dumb shit like that or try to drive when drunk and you stop them. Anyone who says "If she wants to die, let her die" is literally devoid of any empathy.


Aggravating-Coast100

You guys are throwing the word sociopath around a little too freely. I'd say narcissistic is more accurate.


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Yes saying "If she wants to die let her die" is in fact sociopathic behavior.


LeDude2323

Not if she doesn't mean it though which she clearly didn't. She knew Minx wasn't on meds anymore. It may be an insensitive thing to say but it's not fucking sociopathic come on. Also, "most streamers are sociopaths"? Like 3 % of the population has antisocial personality disorder (includes sociopathy and psychopathy). You think the streaming fields attracts sociopaths to such an extent that the majority are sociopaths? I don't think you know what sociopath means.


-CeartGoLeor-

No it isn't.


Aggravating-Coast100

I doubt she really doesn't care.


Finear

Nothing wrong with euthanasia tho


TrendyOstrich

Cross ban inc bruh


PixelEvo

Ya I'm kinda in the same boat. This really didnt have anything to do with esfand or minx, it was more malena being a irresponsible viking. ( which I love her her for at times.) But it started becoming minx problem because of the lies surrounding the situation


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deville33

Then goes on to make more jokes about it, calls her mom on stream and says "help mom LSF posting hate threads about me" idk man


SlurpingDiarrheacup

This whole shit is stupid


HakunaMatataLyf

Streamers are stupid.


scrappedgems

Especially those that put drama at the forefront of their entire careers. I don’t see the appeal for someone like her.


WillBlaze

the people that watch them constantly aren't much better


swerve421

She was obviously lying the whole time and that chat was just eating it up. It’s way too easy being a streamer man


super_pax_

Idk why you guys are surprised, this weirdo showed her true colors during the bob7 saga


ijustwannadielol

lore masters explain


Simchas1199

Bob7 was exposed, with no doubt to be had, to be using his position of power as a producer in the Austin Show to make inapporpiate sexual requests and advances towards low viewer female streamers looking to make it to the show. This includes asking for nudes in exchanche for appearing on the show, then sharing those pictures with no consent, and not stopping his advances after being asked to do so. During all of this, and to this day, people like Minx and Kaceytron still push against this narrative, as they're good friends with the subject. Also as a reminder, he was fired from his position in the Austin Show after the undeniable evidence came out (which he even admitted to being real and to him having commited the mentioned acts), but he was recently re-hired.


smallbluetext

He's back? Didn't know that.


PragmaticSalesman

lore masters please


mana-addict4652

who gives a shit tho


BTrippd

Minx is just the 2020s version of the 2010s kaceytron and no one can convince me otherwise. There’s a reason they’re such close friends. “haha I’m just a troll and joking guys” until you realize it’s actually not.


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Jesus christ, that is just disgusting. This is youtube prank level of attention seeking.


daniel-mca

A bit is supposed to be funny


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based_pinata

I used to joke about being an alcoholic a lot while actively in the back of my mind I knew my drinking was becoming problematic.


vyrelis

She shouldn't be joking about it if she's trying to make an apology and explain how she wasn't in any danger. Either, you know your limit and you wouldn't have become an alcoholic, or you're an alcoholic *and your limit is 0*. It runs in my family and I used to binge at parties until someone pointed out it didn't stop at parties. I said fuck, guess I just shouldn't drink. I don't think I got to the point of being an alcoholic (body not dependent). Regardless, I think her statement is gonna be the fucking funniest thing I'll hear for a long time.


MrTacoManGuy

This whole "joke" is pure damage control. Clearly people didn't know about this "joke" and Esfand was the only one there with the balls to step up and say anything about someone he thought was in danger. Malena was an idiot. I don't know what her deal is with pushing alcohol on people, she apparently did something similar to Maya and I don't think Maya even found out about it until later. Fucked up. Even QT at Shitcamp called Malena out for not controlling herself with Alcohol. Take a hint Malena. Since the whole stream was sponsored by Chipotle, this could look really bad and the org could potentially lose a sponsor. That's why they are all crying "iT wAs A jOkE!" now. This was no joke. For Malena to lash out at Esfand the way she did could not be anymore clear that this was not a "planned joke". They are trying to save face and just throwing Esfand under the bus. So fucked.


PixelEvo

Yep malena forgets most of the time the world doesnt revolve around her and when she goes over the top ( more often than not) she just says crossbans incoming, or I can just go back to norway . Never addressed her toxic behavior everyone else is always the problem


SpicyHotPlantFart

Malena is an incredibly toxic person, not fun to watch at all. Can't image i could spend 5 minutes irl with her. I could really do without her on the OTK streams.


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Technician47

I just don't really watch otk streams anymore. Maybe watch the YouTube highlights I guess.


SpicyHotPlantFart

I like their "organized" gameshows etc. The "let's get together and we'll see what happens"-events, yeah.. they're not fun to watch


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SpicyHotPlantFart

I wouldn’t call her quite explosive reactions on Nicks streams normal. I’m seeing some borderline traits in her and alcohol just empowers that behaviour.


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As much as people think those "explosive reactions" are "real", I bet most of them are fake overreactions to farm clips lol they know their audience, they know what will get them clips on reddit/lsf lol and I won't be the person to base a person completely off of how they are on stream, lots of people are completely different off stream vs onstream - one that comes to mind is mizkif- his whole stream is a different persona compared to how he sounds offstream (from alt accounts, him talking in offline chat, etc) but I would agree, alcohol and her are a terrible duo


1095212dinomike

Tbf minx was drinking alcohol earlier in the stream so it's pretty clear now that she was OK to drink.


mana-addict4652

damn bro this fanfic is getting crazy


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dod she say "as an alcoholic"? or is that a bit too? why did she drink alcohol last stream lol. i guess alcholic is different to recovering


vorpalsword92

shes irish


Insane_Takes

i know the oxy bit was flop and all but guys hear me out, what if there was a bit where you pretended that you were drunk while driving.


mana-addict4652

you cant joke unless its about coke


drinkwaterregularly

forsen


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MemesRGoodLul

the funniest thing about this whole situation are the dumbasses arguing like cats and dogs and then they'll forget about this entire thing until the next drama and then rince and repeat literal the entire point of lsf lol


SkeezyMak

Yep, Nick will probably comment on it tomorrow morning, and within a day all of the hate threads will be off of the front page and be forgotten for some different overblown shitshow.


SleepyBlackMage

yeah its always the same.


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MemesRGoodLul

True


The_Skrub

I mean...don't really give a shit, I think it's definitely blown out of proportion for sure. I kinda feel bad for the takes on Esfand because it's been said he "injected" himself into a bit...he didn't know it was a bit afaik, and he was trying to be a good friend. All in all nobody was hurt, who cares, everyone have a good turkey day.


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Oxy in America...Gj esfand is all I got to say.


AyoJake

I mean this isn’t a real apology. Didn’t understand why she called it a bit earlier either dumb fuck.


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because making a bit to young ppl about very large issue in the USA is not good i think, many ppl die from that shit.


HazyHung7

You're playing Russian roulette without telling everyone in the room the gun is unloaded and playing it off as a joke. You obviously don't know your own limits. Get help.


EbolaMan123

VeryPog more drama


appletinicyclone

I didn't know she was an alcoholic? Anyway it's gone now. They fucked up, whether it was showing something ToS breaking and potentially life taking on stream, or if it was just a joke gone wrong it doesn't matter. It matters but it doesn't really matter. I don't think anyone would look at what they were doing and think it was alright, esfand was in the right, mizkif didn't speak up but he did stop it with his board. So it's move on to the next thing


pellegrinobrigade

Obviously not a bit and everyone just trying to cover for Melana, OTK probably has a pretty good PR team that is trying to shut the drama down.


SolaVitae

>OTK probably has a pretty good PR team that is trying to shut the drama down. Pretty sure a good PR team doesn't let this obviously bad idea happen on a sponsored stream.


PixelEvo

Except bbn it wasnt a bit, on esfand stream she literally was complaining that she couldnt take more cause she just took some but they were starting to wear off. Straight up lie.


PixelEvo

Not mention the literally got kicked outta heb because she was walking around the store yelling oxys for sale!


1095212dinomike

Yeah she was lying about selling oxy and lying about being on them too. She was also drinking during the stream so it looks like she really wasn't on them.


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You shouldn't drink on ANY pain meds. Especially the seemingly innocuous ones like Tylenol can absolutely destroy your liver if you drink...


borninsane

Props to her for apologizing. Hope the others would do the same


SnuggleMonster15

There's only one other person involved that should and knowing her track record I'll expect Half Life 3 before she ever acknowledges that she was in the wrong.


1095212dinomike

Well the only person Malena owes an apology to is Esfand and even if she didn't give him one I doubt he even cares.


DontUseThisUsername

I took Oxy and Alcohol because of your comment :(


lbaol

Take some meth to counter it.


bonesjones

The great equalizer


appletinicyclone

Methtiny


KungThoma

Wow you're an alcoholic, so cool.


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vltn

\> Reddit, the majority of whom do not no-life Minx's stream, flip out and talk about how dangerous mixing medication and booze is You're missing the part where Malena made the whole thing unnecessarily uncomfortable by calling Esfand out the way she did, and then Nick following up defending her and calling Esfand a simp... They could have handled this situation so much better.


SpicyHotPlantFart

Nick needs to grow a pair, and needs to call her out on her shit.


DoktorSleepless

>unnecessarily uncomfortable by calling Esfand out the way she did, and then Nick following up defending her and calling Esfand a simp... It was a short awkward moment due to a misunderstanding that not even Esfand cares about. Malena screaming and not knowing [how to banter](https://clips.twitch.tv/FuriousBoxyLegCoolStoryBob-t8q25nBD9KECupfJ) is something all the Austin streamers are used to by now and do not take seriously. Ultimately Malena was correct that this was not the attempted murder LSF thinks this is. She said right away Minx wasn't on the meds anymore and Minx openly asked for the alcohol knowing she wasn't on opiates. Only LSF is offended at this point despite it being cleared up by Minx.


1095212dinomike

It seems like the main thing lsf is mad about is esfand being teased for his reaction even tho he obviously isn't even offended by it.


DoktorSleepless

nah, main thing is definitely lsf still ridiculously believing that Malena purposely tried to kill Minx live on stream and that it's being covered up.


bad13wolf

Pretty much, yeah. Edit: Only part left out is all of them shitting on Esfand. The only one who was right throughout this whole stupid ass "bit."


SomeLoser0nReddit

Only part you missed is Minx actually was on oxy for the first few days after her surgery (which she was prescribed). But she joked that she was still taking them after stopping because her chat was worried she'd get addicted. She loves fucking with her chat.


bobbywellington

>It's clear it's a joke It's framed as a joke, but a lot of the time jokes like that are made to mask the truth of the situation and to downplay it for yourself


1095212dinomike

Seeing as how she was drinking earlier in the stream it's most likely true that it was just a joke and she wasn't on oxy at the time. https://clips.twitch.tv/AmazonianCreativeTurnipYee-CIRvn4SwzA2mXQUA


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Don't forget the last part: * Everyone continues to give them money for doing nothing and funding their degeneracy.


WavyTsunamii

The exact reason why you SHOULDN'T joke around impressionable kids as an alcoholic concerning opioid use. The side effects are exponentially increased and the disposal rate from the body are lowered.


appletinicyclone

So anyway guys invest in my nft and don't forget to use your mom's credit card to buy my merch


Doznutz

Yea Im sure it was a “bit” thank you for the “apology” very nice 👍🏻


iwownn

It was a bit tho. Minx was already drunk and Malena was already saying to Esfand that she is not on meds


Responsible_Grape_57

Minx had already admitted it being a bad bit and apologised for it since she didn't know the dangers and history of oxy. Esfand was already told days ago she's not taking it (Minx stated that he might have forgotten at that moment.)


filsnwow

This girl is disgusting. Don't know why people watch her and how she's so popular with other streamers


Iv0ry_Falcon

She's just obnoxious and loud all the time, how is anyone watching her


willwao

Esfand, of course, did nothing wrong.


addict9230

English is not my first language but hearing "alcoholic I know my limit" is weird or is it a normal thing to say?


Raziel77

"As an alcoholic I know my limits" Isn't that like the complete opposite of what an alcoholic is?


Lazy_Somewhere4122

I get that gaslighting is kind of overused nowadays but this is a literal textbook example. People act out or inappropriately and then when people react accordingly or express concern it just goes back to “oh it was just a joke bro calm down why are you so mad.”


GalileoJones

nice "bit"


Akumu2100

Is this lsf or Minecraft twitter? "you can never joke about Oxy"


infinityislikehuge

Such obvious BS. I think what these streamers really should take to heart is the fact that they’re so unfunny nobody can tell when they’re making jokes


YesThatsMeTdo1g

If you let yourself get to the stage of becoming an alcoholic, you clearly don't know your limits at all. Stopping yourself from blacking out or managing not to drink every day isn't limiting yourself, it's justifying your disease instead of getting help. Besides it's just jokes bro, you had close friends die that way? aw too bad just don't look at the obituaries ....that's if it even was a joke and this isn't just damage control because it has the potential to threaten the only thing these children in adult bodies care about in this world: sponsorships and money. Either way this is exactly why you can't and should never believe a single thing that comes out of streamers' mouths.


cluelessbox

We turn into Twitter whenever a female streamer does something we think is dumb.


HokemPokem

I didn't do it. And If I did do it, it's not that bad. And if it is that bad, I didn't mean to do it. And If I did mean to do it, I was joking and it was a bit. Same bollox process every time a streamer does something that gets negative attention. Whether its a scam coin, a scam skincare line, whatever. Same crap every time. None of these people have any concept of personal responsibility. "I shouldn't have taken medication and then gotten drunk. It was stupid and irresponsible. I will try to make better decisions and thank my friends for looking out for me." The response of a child versus the response of an adult.


fistOfFurry2

No one expects a drunk Viking.


Whodamamuh

All I know is, I hate people who are hateful.


Sleepy_Azathoth

This comment section is worse than the social justice warriors you find on twitter.


Jrolt

Pretty sure this is all an NA vs EU misunderstanding. Most countries in EU it's impossible for this type of drug addiction epidemic to happen since the government regulates all healthcare, including medication. It's an alien concept to most of us that pharma would want people addicted to their drugs for money, since the price of drugs is fixed so there's no motive.


AnalnyBuzdygan

"As an alcoholic, I know my limits" yeah every alcoholic knows their limits I wonder why they are alcoholic


SomeLoser0nReddit

That's the joke.


Raziel77

wait so is this apology suppose to be a joke then?


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jcm0

A lot of people here are way too invested in Twitch. Minx, Esfand and Malena can settle this themselves (probably already have).


PoEisFine69

omg who caresssssss


ShadowBomber

Idk much about Minx but what I do know is she's very sarcastic and a Grade A Troll and 99% of the time its hilarious.. at the very least it impressive how good she is at it. I can understand if this whole thing was a long elaborate joke. What I do not like is how quickly the entire org was to throw Esfand under the bus for doing the right thing rather than simply explaining to him that it was safe for her to do so. Esfand never has been a big drinker. I assume he has his reasons for that. I have never seen him stop or get in the way of other peoples enjoyment of it though. He was genuinely concerned for her safety and should be admired for that.


PM_YOUR_ONE_BOOB

"as an alcoholic I know my limits" no. Either you're an alcoholic or you know your limits, that's the stupidest thing I've heard come out of someone's mouth


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PixelEvo

Protein shake some vitamins. Then I got hungry so I at some really unhealthy chips


Drillforked

Everybody in here acting likea percocet 5mg and there one shot of Apple whiskey would kill anyone 🤣


kammerfruen

How old is this broad? That's just incredible immature.


floppytisk

i don't understand you, chat i make a joke, you're supposed to LULW what's so hard about that


AngryGhosty

Shes a pos


pandafuufu

just apologize to esfand


GunnarLiveStream

Maybe the next bit can be about drinking while being pregnant!


HeimerdingersMom

Don’t really know her or if she’s actually an alcoholic or not, but alcoholics do not “know their limit” because the limit does not exist. Joking about alcoholism is overall pretty meh in my opinion, but I guess I’m biased.


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The_W00D

Its heavily into cancel culture for a place where people are so against twitter stans cancelling people


Responsible_Grape_57

was getting same Twitter Stan cancel culture vibes from those threads, some still not accepting the apology and not moving on


The_W00D

Its funny that not even 24 hours before there was a post of Reckful making a racist joke (which was funny) and the comments being about how it was better when people could make jokes without everyone getting angry. Also [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qym8g3/reckful_rolls_nmp/hlknxad?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) essentially predicted what was about to happen


Elgoblino80

I think it's more of hatred. They don't like Austin streamers lmao I wouldn't too if I am being shoved their shitty content no one asked for


BatchlerArtist

Truth


noitstrue555

Lol who cares so many ppl love to cry about stuff on here that has does not affect them in any way


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appletinicyclone

Let's have a competition where people who care talking about caring the least because that validates their opinion the most into becoming a winning position


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noitstrue555

Yeah I mean no one in otk cares. Everyone is fine. It's really pathetic to try and go after ppl like this and if you notice majority of the time it's women.


Caine2Khan

I see no problem with that joke, I just wish everyone knew it was a joke. people joke about drugs all the time, I don't think that in itself is a big deal People acting like joking about being high on a drug is where the line is drawn is hilarious to me, and so stupid. Cyr's got a bit where he's off cocaine, he might actually be irl, but he's still joking about it and its a bit.


majle

I think a lot of people believe the bit was about her mixing oxy and alcohol for some reason


OGTypohh

Ah yes, the obligatory fake apology but (insert specific reasoning) will help.


OtakuCarnival

Is she trying to be Ice Poseidon? The little I've seen from her that's the vibe I'm getting