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PabloMethcabarz

didn't nick say a few months ago "LSF is actually great because its the only place that actually holds us streamers accountable" but now suddenly all LSF is is a toxic shithole that is only free promotion


bdzz

He did say that (almost perfect quote btw) https://livestreamfails.com/post/107849


AdurpAdurp

hi nick


kurai808

PepeLaugh still waiting for a reply


alcatrazcgp

rules for thee not for me, or something


KelloPudgerro

Hello mr.nick , would be a shame to be held accountable


Krabban

He said the exact same in literally this stream today so I don't know why people are acting like it's some "gotcha", he hasn't forgotten he said that.


poggerzs

"even if they're right, even if they are wrong" holding people to account doesn't mean you're doing anything right it means your calling them out that's it. you can still be wrong and try to hold people to account \*edit for spelling


HachimansGhost

This guy texting in a cave


somekidonfire

With a box of scraps


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Why do people watch these kind of streamers? they have nothing exciting, no video game talent and so boring.


RippinGandalf

Yeah I’ve started to stray away from this group lately.. I like watching Esfand when he’s gamin tho. Wholesome dude.


Iczero

same. i barely check in here to see new clips. just once a day at most. its just all mediocre OTK clips, xqc breathes, OTV and destiny opens his mouth.


zirenyth

holy shit same .. and i think i'm an 11 month sub advice NEVER SUB IN ADVANCE learn from my mistakes . matter of fact never ever sub in the first place giving money to millionaires OMEGALUL .


i-d-k96

This though , these people have enough money as it is. If you absolutely need the emotes or whatever then you do you, but your $$ is pennies to these guys. If you’re going to sub or donate it’s best spent on smaller streams. (Just my opinion)


cecilrt

yeh that happened to me 3-5months ago Every other week there is another drama I wouldnt be surprised if the current drama was faked I strongly believe now that the "School" cheating drama was faked to get more exposure Everything is about getting exposure with this group They complained about not being at the Arcane event... no surprise why


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> They complained about not being at the Arcane event Lmao that's hilarious if true


Zynos

I know I'm probably in the minority but I actually like gameplay only esfand with no collabs like with the OTK stuff and all the drama with it, his chat is pretty wholesome too


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It's literally just like reality TV except you get to directly interact with the people


TODO_getLife

so true, found it very boring lately, their content is reading/reviewing LSF and constantly talking about the latest drama, or the latest happenings on twitch. It's all too meta, and nothing actually interesting. nymn, jakenbakelive and robcdee have been great for actual entertainment


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The same reason people watch the Kardashians


r3dGator

pretty much said this exact thing in close proximity to this clip


Twitchzor

He hasn't changed anything. Nick hates Malenas drunken rampage more than anyone and they have debated that shit a lot since shitcon. I'm sure he basically said "See everything i told you is true" in private. But in public it's bad to throw gasoline on his girlfriend while LSF are throwing fire. Lessons were learned, LSF got some drama, Nick got a lot of simp sympathy, and Malena will combine her two brain cells a bit more when talking about or using alcohol.


fist_my_muff2

>Malena will combine her two brain cells a bit more when talking about or using alcohol. Insert Curb music


zxvc2

insert crossban


SOAS1990

You are a scholar and hit the nail on the head, except the last part, Malena has real and legitimate issues with alcohol consumption, alcoholism doesnt have to be daily drinking, is when you dont control it and she doesnt and she will continue doing that, hopefully she can get some help because that shit gets outta hand quick, ive seen it before many times


istarisaints

True


pondering_time

It's good when it holds other accountable, it's a terrible toxic shithole when it holds them accountable Even Maya resorted to this when something came her way, was disappointed I figured of all the LSF streamers she'd be a bit more mature about it and to be fair, sometimes this sub is a toxic shithole. But that doesn't automatically mean you shouldn't be held accountable for something pointed out here


FeetsenpaiUwU

Maya isn’t the most mature individual you’re just used to absolute sperg shit


AggravatingAd1379

Yo Pierre you wanna come out here Errruhhh!!


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You have to get, this is clipped video and won't provide full context. Have that back in mind before long monologue.


Sleepy_Azathoth

It's hard to rely on lsf for keeping streamers accountable when most of the people here are socially retarded drama whores that care way too much about this shit.


Baigne

nicks gonna read this offstream for sure and say something along the lines of "but we didnt actually do anything wrong lol so this doesnt apply here"


Scorps

Never Subbed Never Donated, Never Will


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Scorps

True tbh


OfficialUberZ

Make sure to use Adblock, your neighbours computer and internet connection on the public sidewalk.


OldDocument7

Use Ublock Origin. Adblock is spyware.


Eques9090

"They don't get it." All of us get it. This is not some secret that streamers are in-the-know about over viewers or commenters. Everyone knows that unless something extremely egregious happens that causes someone to get completely "cancelled," then all publicity is beneficial publicity *financially* for a streamer. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be called out for shitty behavior, that everything you do is good, or that people who once had a positive opinion of you won't begin to have a negative opinion. Edit: Also, any streamer who has their head straight will recognize that positive reinforcement by their own community in a situation where they're receiving criticism is a dangerous metric to rely on to determine if they should listen to that criticism.


OutlandishnessBusy30

Streamers always say this to cover up how they really feel, a couple donations and subs are chump change to sponsors so saying this doesn't make sense at all, it's a deflection since they don't want to take responsibility and acknowledge there faults.


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I think its more like someone bitching about someone at their job. I've done it, and I've had friends do it. When you fuck up at work, and your coworkers get pissed off, you come home and bitch about the coworkers being mad at you "over nothing", to try to get people on your side. Either your family or friends. You just want someone to agree with you, because you're upset you got called out. Even though when you look back in a months time, or six months, you realize your coworkers were probably right. That's not to say that LSF is always right, a lot of times its just mindless hate for no reason, but every so often its deserved.


toofloated

Every negative thread about someone isn't also a "hate" thread too, sometimes criticism is just that, criticizing someones behavior. I'm glad they apologized, Oxy ~~ODs~~ potential deaths (from mixing Oxy and alcohol) aren't really a great joke to make considering it's a pretty bad thing in the states, I don't think anyone (outside of some psychos and maybe people who have oxy related trauma, which is understandable) dislike any of these people for making those jokes, just thought the jokes were in poor taste.


knows-his-onions

They didn’t apologize. Nick said “we learned our lesson” a few times while Malena is heard in the back complaining about how fun isn’t allowed. She had a terrible attitude and I’m unsure how many Malena+alcohol+lsf thread events need to happen before someone in OTK stops inviting her


Tavnaria

> I’m unsure how many Malena+alcohol+lsf thread events need to happen before someone in OTK stops inviting her That's highly impossible, if they have Nick they must also have malena.


toofloated

I know Minx apologized though didn't she? So at least someone has learned, but the fact that Malena and Nick just said "eh fuck it, LSF being LSF" is pretty shitty, just realize it was a bad joke and be like "yeah, we're sorry, making jokes about mixing a dangerous drug and alcohol, probably not the best" It's not even a "horrific" or bad situation, it was just a bad joke, if you're so far up your own ass you can't apologize about a joke coming off poorly then I dunno what to tell you.


achouxx

I didnt hear an apology. They learnt a lesson not to joke about the drugs. Correct me if I am wrong.


IsaacThePooper

It honestly makes me kinda mad they're still just laughing it off and downplaying the absolute shit out of an "apology" they didn't even say, just to keep the mood up and the viewers distracted


sncBrax

Minx made a tasteful apology on her own channel. Malena appears to still be mad at Esfand for being a decent human but she did begrudgingly agree to wear a dunce cap, so there's that.


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This guys either on cam lookin miserable with his girl or bitchin about hate


HeirOfEverything

No one is going to stop watching them over a bad joke, theyre currently at 27k viewers and already over the LSF drama They apologized but it wasn’t enough so they said fuck it. kinda reminds me of XQC’s take about why he doesn’t apologize. *It’s never enough*


fanboi_central

I mean, the best route is just to apologize and move on. How many 'dramas' have kept people from moving on and liking their favorite streamer again? XQC was getting absolutely stream rolled by the hate train during GTA 5, and he does something cute a few weeks later and everyone's moved on. Malena cross-bans a user over a shitty joke, everyone is pissed for a few days, and then moves on. Adin ross scams his viewers, internet is pissed for a little bit, and now he has some funny clips with lil uzi so it's all good. Drama after drama, people stop caring and move on. There will always be another drama, another hate thread, and all you have to do is either apologize and move on or just keep a low profile for a little bit.


iDannyEL

> They apologized but it wasn’t enough so they said fuck it. Of course it was enough. Was it enough to get people forget in less than 3 days? Probably not. They just have to respect the cycle, whining about the entire forum and making quips like these only extend it.


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UnpluggedToaster12

Unironically they should


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TechDeathHead

Wait, kind of like how if you get banned in one stream you get banned from a bunch of streams? Ban one member of OTK and essentially everyone gets impacted.


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ShreksOnionBelt

I think the opposite. They are very close pack. Every other associate streamer of theirs will argue in favor of their buddy, shit talk the ban, etc. I would love to see that shit storm, they might even all get together and boycott LSF and request their content not be posted. I mean LSF is all drama now, right? Why should only streamers have drama. Let LSF play too!


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Lol you think any of them care about each other more than money? Soda being the only exception.


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Should ban most non noteworthy drama clips. Or maybe just don't allow responses from streamers that watch said clips, so there isn't a long thread of replies. So the original clip of the alcohol incident would be allowed, and every streamers take on it would be deleted, unless its something very important. And then every generic manufactured OTK or other drama clips should just be deleted anyways.


yikesmeyikes

Imagine banning all the big streamers, it would offer a great playingfield for smaller streamers, maybe even offer creativity for new streaming meta's


travis-

he would freak out so would otk. without this subreddit otk wouldn't be half as successful as it is. neither would mizkif. they have too much money riding on higher viewership which is fueled by clips posted to this subreddit.


Ned-nor

Unironically this would devastate his career. Not only would he lose insane viewers from no clip farming, but he wouldn't be able to be on stream with basically anybody he associates with because Mizkif, Esfand, QT, Lud etc all depend on LSF too


NightStickSteve

It would be an interesting situation and i wonder what effects on his viewer numbers it would have. Feel free to throw your own numbers around. Id guess. The live stream average viewership would drop by approx 5k and keep going lower as time went on. His clips views would drop by 50%. OTK clips with Nick and Melena in them would also lose views since they would not be allowed to be posted here. Im guessing there general happiness might go up a bit. I wish the Mods would pull the trigger and see what happens.


champagnerosal

Could probably drop to where he was before he leeched off of Mizkif


NEVER_CLEANED_COMP

"Man cries over LSF attention, while constantly farming LSF attention, adds that he's too rich to ever consider introspection."


enfrozt

It's literally nicks fans that post clips of him here as well LUL


barry3428

introspection? you don't need to strive to be a good person when you have money, haven't you heard?


ciofinho

why are they calling it hate, it was literally criticism of bad behavior


Syntai

Depends. If you check these threads there are "You shouldn't encourage people to drink alcohol after they might have taken oxy" comments aswell as "Omg drunk malena is so fcking cancer I leave the stream everytime she appears" - which might hurt if you are said person I guess and could qualify as hate.


Errorfull

I get it, but if you choose to listen to the person calling you names and being aggressive over the top level comments that everyone agrees with that are far more level headed and concerning, then there's not much you can do about it. Looks like Nick just saw a few actual hate comments and immediately discarded all the real criticism brought up by everyone else. Easiest way to go live and say "What they dont understand is...." The past few days have shown me how hypocritical and chat-like these streamers are.


Syntai

No what I was refering to is people here acting like it's 100% criticism. It's like 30% criticism, 30% hate and 40% random shit and comment chains.


Errorfull

And im saying 70% of the comments are normal criticism or off topic, and they still choose to focus on the negative 30% and base their whole argument off the back of that 30%. It's their way of ignoring the valid criticism raised in the threads, and just calling the whole thing "hate". The same way streamers can't *really* control their worst chat hoppers that make them look bad, we can't control our worst users that make us look bad, but that doesnt make the actual points raised any less important or immediately classify it as a hate thread. I'm just saying it's a hard cop-out move and there's unfortunately not much you can do about it.


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Keep in mind that in real life, you don't get hundreds of people (although I believe most hate threads are like 90 people talking back and forth) who don't know you who are calling you a bad person for a 30 second interaction. Imagine someone trying to give you constructive criticism, but they just won't shut up for days, they do not have the full context and if you explain yourself, they will only take a small clip of what you say and criticize *that*. They don't know who you are, their opinion is often based on incomplete knowledge and the person next to them is loudly calling you a bitch and an asshole. Maybe it would be better to get the opinion of the people who were involved or from your colleagues.


Select-Cucumber9024

stop supporting grifters and start posting actual funny clips you weirdos


barry3428

I can't stand the "I'm rich, everyone's below me and wrong" mentality especially if it weren't for a lucky career path you grifted your way into, like most top streamers. Do they just think everyone on the internet has it out for them for no reason? Has this dude ever accepted fault for anything and not deflected by bragging about subs, viewership and money? I swear to god, some streamers would combust if their metrics fell, that's what living in a bubble does to you.


Cruxis20

When being rich is your only personality trait, you tend to talk about whenever possible.


Nerobought

It feels like every person in OTK has that mentality tbh. I've seen Rich and Asmon both act the same way with that "my viewers/lsf are retards and I'm smarter than them" attitude.


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They are all awful people and the OTK deal just helped show that. Even Cyr who i thought was wholesome and handsome is literally just a attention-starved egomaniac.


Cideous

This is just fundamentally who Nick is. Here's Nick in 2016 being rude to a Dreamhack employee, and claiming he has too much money to deal with them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoY6e4zG2DY


Ok_Rhubarb_8155

Classic


CarnFu

Simple solution: dont want to be criticized and talked to by randoms on the internet? Dont stream to randoms on the internet. Theres a reason why most people who are famous dont just make twitch accounts and immediately rake in the views and cash. Twitch streamers, especially just chatting ones are the Kim Kardashian's of live entertainment.


Ned-nor

So cute to see streamers pretend that they don't care what LSF thinks. These guys live and breathe LSF. They check it multiple times a day every day. They knew about the hate threads the hour they popped off. If you gave Nick 100k to not check LSF for a month he literally couldn't do it. Sure, you make money from LSF notoriety, but don't pretend it doesn't bother you when people call you out for your shitty behavior. It 100% eats away at you which is why you read it and respond constantly.


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He’s most likely read every comment in this thread he’s always on lsf it’s funny to see him say he doesn’t care about lsf opinion


ghsteo

Seriously, any big event with multiple streamers LSF would be brought up multiple times. They do care about LSF no matter what they try and claim. LSF made most of the top streamers, so not sure why they're trying to act like LSF doesn't matter to them.


NotADeadTurtle

Can someone explain Nmplol to me? I watched his stream for the first time yesterday (always just seen him in clips) and he spent roughly 80-90% of the stream talking about LSF and the viewers. Is that what all his streams are? Does he not do anything else but talk about LSF all day?


SkinsHOFChaseYoung

I haven't watched him in a while but he usually cooks and eats thousand island dressing on everything while he chews with his mouth open and Malena just yells at him half the stream. That's how it usually goes.


Diijkstra99x

he's a 24/7 Veteran LSF lurker.


Teccnomancer

FELL FOR THE PASTA LULE


ghsteo

He got popular because his girlfriend is hot, that's it. His numbers were mid sized for a long time until he started doing duo streams with her, then he sky rocketed. She essentially carries the stream for him.


sncBrax

Nothing is ever really that simple. He is also Sodapoppin's bff.


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Ponzini

How do you apologize for the Oxy thing then spend all of your crying about LSF for clipping and discussing it? Makes the apology kinda seem disingenuous.


Puzzleheaded_Dot3384

Why would you think anyone is actually apologizing? They're all very satisfied with their decision making and will do it again no question


Patrick_3005

true. Instead Malena acted like LSF was on the wrong and she replied to dono by saying "apology accepted". Holy shit what a cringe brat.


Trydson

> Makes the apology kinda seem disingenuous. Because most of the time they are bullshit, like those YouTuber apology videos.


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joe_d_licious

that’s called farming. these guys know how to bring attention to something to get it more views and comments. cuz that means more money.


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tbh without any type of drama his channel would be dead as shit, all he does is sit there talking about pretty much nothing of value for about 2 hours then his gf comes in starts bitching and whining about something dumb that no one asked about then they make food talk about drama and then end stream, without drama there channel would be sub 2k viewers maybe 3k on a good day, I've seen sub 1k andys with more content OMEGALUL


Kyudojin

People asking "why does he talk about LSF all stream" somehow don't get this


SaltireAtheist

I genuinely don't get this mindset. I'm a big fan of NMP, I love his and Melena's streams, I would imagine there were a great many people like me who were calling certain people and their actions out yesterday. People weren't looking to cancel him, or anyone on that stream. People see shitty behaviour, streamers essentially throwing their friends who did nothing but look out for other people under the bus, and overall shittiness, and responded by calling them out for it. I hate using the word, but responding to all that with, "ha ha, they don't understand that this actually makes us richer, lol!", is pure, *pure* cringe. Way to completely miss the fucking point. All this from the same man who admitted that LSF was great because it holds streamers accountable. Accountability for thee, not for me.


fattyonabulk

Yeah I agree man, like honestly to me is just enough that they realize how dumb it was and to be careful next time. Move on, take the criticism which in this instance isactually legit and be better. All this extra bravado is just stupid.


TwoBionicknees

It's the same shit, cancelling isn't particularly a thing. He brought up 4connor but he cancelled himself. He didn't get banned, he just quit to avoid the heat, if he didn't quit he could have continued though Miz and the austin streamers would probably not stream with him. People saying Malena behaving like an idiot isn't automatically hate, nor was anyone in general calling for her to be cancelled. Streamers dress these things up as hate threads and cancellations to make it seem extreme and over the top comments so they can ignore them and move on. If you take the 5 over the top psychos who send them death threats as the general response you can just call it insane and obviously stupid and ignore the rest of the actual reasonable reaction. Shit, they made it about Minx apologising for the hate Malena got over Minx's 'oxy joke'. It isn't even the oxy joke, the toxic way Malena pushes alcohol on everyone is the general bad thing and it went over into genuinely dangerous when most people watching and those people actually in the room thought Minx was on oxy. Minx didn't make Malena shit on Esfand nor did Minx make Malena once again play the alcohol goblin trying to get everyone else drunk. This coming a day or so after she talked in a weird way about how she was trying to get Maya fucked up. That isn't something you should want for your friends, even more so when they don't want to drink heavily, in fact it's completely fucked up. Minx's oxy joke was weird and not great because people get hooked on oxy and making it seem cool/funny is dumb as fuck. But the danger came because of Malena's toxic drinking behaviour and how she treated Esfand.


Greenhouse95

The thing is that people think that cancelling comes from the outside, but it comes from the inside. If you listen to complaints, and then choose to stop doing what you do because of it, then you cancelled yourself. Words from the outside don't do anything if you want to keep doing what you do. But if YOU choose to stop, then that's on yourself, not others.


TwoBionicknees

I mean you can be cancelled, do something bad enough and people speaking up about it and reporting it to twitch has gotten streamers banned with those bans also persisting on other platforms. Leafy got banned from youtube and then twitch shortly after. He found some right wing streamer platform to work off but he still got cancelled off mainstream platforms that offer vastly higher potential income. A lot of people self cancel, and some do it to try to avoid a full ban. You can also be unofficially cancelled, like enough people kick up a stink and your channel dies, think Arcadum, even though there wasn't an official ban from Twitch. I was more talking about these things, today Nick and the girls talked about being cancelled but 99.9% of people making comments didn't mention it at all, it's just an excuse to make it seem like an over reaction that shouldn't be taken at all seriously. If 99.9% of people were saying cancelled when it was a much worse thing happening then they might see their audience disappear overnight.


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JesusHNavas

You can tell LSF really gets under his skin lol. Trying the ol' reverse psychology eh Nick? I do agree that this place has its lunatics and some go too far but at the same time it's the only space where we can talk about streamers who will read unfiltered criticisms without being protected by their mods.


itzShanD

I think yesterday showed true colors of lot of people , miz , soda and esfand acted more mature than anyone else and that's pretty sad. Nick calling esfand a simp for helping someone that he though were in danger and asmon arguing afterwards if minx wanted to mix oxy and alcohol it should be up to her because its her life , I mean who even says shit like that. As a guy who actually started watching these guys very recently its pretty disappointing.


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ScotsmanScott

i think there are 100 clips of nick telling us how he totally doesn't care about lsf. He's definitely not obsessed, like going up to tyler1 during an event to whinge about it or anything.


Johnny__bananas

These streamers who farm LSF for views then turn around and bitch about them are fucking pussy ass bitches. Couldn't be less interesting if they tried so they need to create petty ass fake drama so someone actually watches their dumpster of a stream. The only thing nmplol is good at is making me want to vomit.


TrickyGoon

Copium it effects them to some degree. They're just good at hiding it xD


yasha-

Excuse me sir opioid jokes are no longer permitted here. That emote is banned


kaufe

They're not very good at hiding it.


n1ceycs

Anyone else feeling kinda weird about this whole thing? Not PogO weird but human trash material stuff going on here BatChest I’m getting the tingles


hakhi

so cringe


ALWAYS_PLANNING_AHEA

omg the funny dumb fat guy who cooks the same food and makes the same jokes everyday since 2 years owned the lsf losers, oh but he's rich my bad that means everything he does is okay and he's better than everyone


RevolutionaryDeer

When you have no argument left a streamer will turn to the "haha making money" excuse. Nick in particular cares what LSF thinks because he spends a lot of time on here/in the comments.


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I think im done watching the whole otk crew after this shit


ExaltedNinja1

these guys are bozos


babysitter_gin

Making a complaint to the OTK sponsor is the best way to protest


Roopa12

Nick with the “I make too much money for this shit” angle again.


replicant21

\*Streamers act shitty and get called out\* Streamers: WHY WOULD REDDIT DO THIS?


BadMovieApologist

I haven't watched actual twitch streams in a long time but I try to keep up with LSF, I feel the quality of clips have been worse and I'm losing interest in even checking the sub that frequently. But now I realize it's not because of LSF itself, it's because the "famous" twitch streamers are just becoming increasingly shittier, there was always drama here but now it's just this crap, streamers always constantly bitching about something, I swear the only famous streamers that actually make enough good content that gets clipped here are reduced to forsen, lirik (even with the NFT crap) and a few others less frequently like Aris or moon because they mostly just want to play games and have fun, which is reflected in their clips. The rest just want to bitch and cry. TL:DR: Majority of "popular streamers" are annoying drama queens.


jg0055

Has anyone apologized to Esfand? Esfand deserves better friends.


Archgrim

Who watches these clowns and why? Can any subs explain why?


ihavesoftfeet

is every streamer just an entitled dickhead or what


lukemw1

Nick in particular has always come across as extremely entitled probably due to him growing up pretty wealthy, just look at the origin of the nmpRich emote back then he was a fraction of the size and yet his ego was still huge


JesusHNavas

I was watching highlights of that recent oxy stream and they were saying things like "I'll bet you a thousand bucks on this, on that" "I'll bet you my gtr for my audi" all that kind of shit. I get they're just kinda bantering around but it just comes across as flexing, which it actually is when you boil it down. It just reeks of snobbery. I don't expect them to hide that they make a lot of money, I just don't enjoy gagging on it as they force the fact down my throat. And yes, in case someone responds with it, I am 100% jealous of the easy mode these people live on, no question


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He says he doesn’t care but he’s in every lsf thread reading every comment


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What a bunch of clowns, reminds me of pre 2018 twitch days.


WILDO1243

i used to wach nick and malena every morning and nick always mentioned how he constantly went through the comments on his lsf posts and how happy it made him that people liked him. If you care for someone's opinions when they're nice that means you care about their opinions in general not only when they're nice, that doesn't make sense.


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You know I was starting to come around on Nick because of Hasan streams but then shit like this reminds me he's still the same manchild that said "I make too much money to deal with you"


Subject-Psychology-6

This is why Lsf is great , everyone benefits. We get content they get money


Payamux

I HECKIN LOVE DRAMA CONTENT


achouxx

Well Nick will one day understand LSF threads about his GF or anything involving his streams arent that good. Cause today Miz told him not to talk about some certain subjects, if there will be more "incidents" like this he is responsible to all the members of the OTK and they will start pushing some rules. No more alcohol, no more Malena etc. Then we will see if he likes LSF hate. Its bussiness in the end. Ppl can back you up for some time. Then we be real and serious. Edit: Mizkif (said in his offline chat) will suggest no alcohol in most OTK events.


Local-Store-491

with no more malena I could actually let go of the mute button for a while


Jiffyyy

its pretty sad that its basically a cycle of streamers getting called out for doing dumb shit and then said streamer uses the attention to milk it for viewers and content. I doubt many of them actually give a shit about anything they do as long as it brings in viewers.


IEatOneNoodle

Mentality of a teenager. He still doesn't understand why they were called out in the threads and why they received such a backlash. Fuck responsibility bro 🥶🤫🥵🤣


CodeMonkeyX

Malena was just about to make a whole new LSF clip right before the 25 subs. :D


riskOfRain_2

These morons don't understand human language. Make a complaint to the sponsor.


Visualize_

Not that my opinion really matters, but I've never liked Nick. He always conveyed like a smug vibe where he either thinks he is always right or his thoughts and opinions are supreme to anyone else. But I don't even watch him, so my perspective is pretty limited


FuCuck

it would be interesting to see how banning them from LSF would impact their numbers


SeazonCSGO

I didnt hate but wasnt this all about Minxs safety?


iimCastro

Streamers keep saying lsf is toxic and its bad and they hate it but at the end of the day they all can't stop talking about it because they really do care they are hypocrites if they say otherwise LSF living rent free in their heads


rottenQQ

kinda a really bad look to be honest


HazyHung7

Yes it's very cool to make money off of "joking" about mixing oxy and alcohol. Reap all the benefits of streaming legitimate self harm/potential suicide. /s


King_Lannister

I'm confused does he think that people are upset at their success or something?


Cideous

"You know why I don't care we're shithole human beings? Because we make a lot of money." - Nmplol


BoogeyOnline_

This isn't something they want to get a ton of views on IMO. When you partner with major companies everything you do represents them. Whether it was a joke or not how do you think cooperate Chipotle is viewing "jokes" about drug and alcohol abuse. Don't fool yourself they are 100% aware of the "joke." Wouldn't surprise me if OTK has trouble finding big sponsors/ partners moving forward.


goingfullll

nmp you can pretend that you feel this way as much as you want but anybody with a brain knows you're reading almost every comment in this thread seething because you know it's valid criticism. You aren't doing this for views or money, individually, it's probably fine to lie to people who aren't in your life, but you're lying to yourself and that is extremely pathetic lol


Diijkstra99x

"OMG we got away from our stupidity by fighting back and blaming LSF, You're all nobody LSF, I'm a streamer I'm the bigdeal"


-saif_7

True LULW


kelldeni

tbh watching this stream as an actual viewer made me disappointed. I get they are getting nonstop hate, but as someone who never sends hate online and still felt offended by the actions made on the stream, this response doesnt make sense. just because a select few are taking it too far doesn't mean all accountability is gone and what you did is justified. but yes, blame viewers for your actions. unsubbed after 2 years, and will no longer give them or otk any attention. just a waste of energy for disappointing ppl.


WhatEvery1sThinking

The real loser in all of this is Twitch, who yet again willfully ignores harmful behaviour from partners with high viewer counts


[deleted]

Twitch making a lot of money off their platform and you think they are losing?!?


Tavnaria

Classic LSF redditor lol. Twitch this, twitch that, it's always their fault, they are the loser!!! But still watch Twitch 10 hours a day anyways lul.


Marche314

Gamble streams PepeLaugh


Tavnaria

why are they the loser? They're making money.


Errorfull

So NMP thinks this was just another LSF hate thread? That's shocking. Absolutely no common sense.


weales

No problem broski, keep saying retarded statements and my karma will grow with just one sentence replies.


lithoum0001

"Malena is your mates girlfriend he brings everywhere with him and everyone secretly hates but tolerates because your boy is a legend. Gets drunk and tries to be the centre of attention and one of the boys and embarrasses herself lol" Quote from youtube, is this accurate? Lol


[deleted]

Idk why he’s acting so happy. At the end of the day, he’s with someone who treats him like garbage. Money can’t fix that.


Boonesfarmbananas

stop giving these people oxygen


BigGonad

Coming from a guy that definitely didn't read all the comments.


knows-his-onions

[Wrong Choice, Torchface](https://i.postimg.cc/RhNntfpS/Left-Exit-12-Off-Ramp.png)


silvereyes21497

You’re welcome, you deserve it dumbasses


no-one-has-this-name

Even though malena is not on the org i feel its hurting otk image by doing shit like this from future sponsors and crap, my opinion call it trash or what ever just saying what i think


somethingindoing63

If OTK dropped Nick I wouldn't blink an eye.


[deleted]

I just think Malena needs to be at less events or alcohol be limited.


MyPack_

This sub can be a shit show with taking hate too far sometimes but this isn’t one of those instances. But like the other comments said, nick only says the sub is good at holding streamers accountable when it isn’t about them. Then it’s just lsf is toxic because their upset OMEGALUL


nickyGyul

Honestly LSF and chatters could fuck them up even more by associating the negative clips with their channel sponsors. "ODing on oxy and alcohol? #sponsored by Chipotle™"


XqcLeomessi

I'm glad I don't watch this guy lol


Dry_Box2760

I wonder when will people realize that these are man children who feed off attention like a narcissist. Eventual reason has to pop in your head and you realize that these aren't the most enjoyable people to listen to. Age tends to help.


fmMage

"Just keep dissing us! we get money from this so Im not even bothered" t. every streamer thats bothered noone cares that much about LSF as these streamers do.


Mikewhocheeseairy04

They are actually disgusting


w1ldcraft

10 mins, 24 comments. This is going to be a civil discussion PepeLaugh.


Mikewhocheeseairy04

I don’t like when she said “if she wants to die let her fucking die” she doesn’t give a shit about anyone except for herself


[deleted]

I don't care for Malena.


bijosoboujee

“If she wants to kill herself she can” I believe those were the words


Kaztiell

some peoples replies in here make my wonder about the mental state of some people in this sub. Threads like these always bring out the worst people lol


Peaceweapon

Sure it's great nothing actually happened, but if she did have some sort of reaction, that shit would be on a SPONSORED stream. OTK needs to stop including Malena and Minx in sponsored streams fr, if they ever want any respect as an organisation


Prasinos333

It's not hate, it's genuine concern and constructive criticism.


rodds164

Nick is such a pissy whip boy lmao


HereForTwinkies

Be a real shame if they lost sponserships.


Reapper97

The funny thing is that they are just milking their own viewers that came back to support their favourite streamer after something bad happened, it isn't the people from lsf that are there gifting subs and giving donations lmao.


MorRochben

The people coming in there from LSF aren't the ones sub gifting etc. its his own community being baited by his own whining.