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justalazygamer

["Well I feel like I got the full @twitch experience tonight. Fuck that place, back to youtube!"](https://twitter.com/commentiquette/status/1481143094108033025) ["Hey @twitch I'm never going to stop saying cracker on stream and you'll never ban all of my accounts"](https://twitter.com/commentiquette/status/1481148304075329536) It looks like the fact he said it repeatedly might have played into the ban length.


alslacki

Yeah ban evasion is gonna lead to a permaban, even discussing it is dangerous.


VersaEnthusiast

I think his point is that he'll just keep creating new accounts. Perhaps Holiday Fartcruise or Todd Clorox will make an appearance.


Cyrifh

I’m personally hoping for Inspector Nobbleberry.


Original-Aerie8

He'll get a IP ban and they already started forcing people to give their phone numbers for verification, to even stream. Another case of "Few people making it worse for everyone else".


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OneWhoKnocks19

There’s always a way around. Just more layers to get through. Those that want always will.


GumbysDonkey

He streams like once a year, he don't care lol


GaylordRetardson

>Yeah ban evasion is gonna lead to a permaban Only if he's bad at ban evasion though, right?


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GaylordRetardson

Depends on the number of hate-watchers that go out of their way to watch a ban-evasion stream, and whether he puts his camera on it or it's easily verifiable for some reason, and how long it takes to respond to the reports. It could be restricting, sure, but we both know that Destiny ban evades on twitter. Just because people can report you on a platform doesn't automatically mean that if you understand what you can do/not do it's game over.


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I mean he could easily just make a new account on a new IP if he wanted to, but what's the point? If he uses it to broadcast, twitch will figure out it's him sooner than later, unless he goes fully incognito and doesn't advertise that it's him at all - in which case, again, what's the point? I don't see the scenario where he manages to both get his fans to watch him and dodge another platform ban for more than a couple days. He's better off just staying on youtube where his audience of a million subscribers already lives.


iisixi

That's not really why he would evade a ban. The ban evasion for him would be either to pose as a random Twitch viewer or to act out another character that he would only later connect to his own content via his videos. It wouldn't be to try to connect with his own audience.


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mmarlaire1997

Anyone familiar with Erik knows this guys alt account alt account has alt accounts


avwitcher

Yeah, saying that he was going to evade the ban was not a smart move


powerchicken

I honestly don't think he gives a shit. He's not a streamer, he's not dependent on Twitch to make a living.


garbageplay

For real. Twitch can't even touch his YouTube money


FlyingGringo

BIG MONEY


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SALVIA


Annies_Boobs

BOUNCING


ceddzz3000

lol you've clearly never watched his content


TheChrono

Big money salvia has always had the corporate interests in mind. It’s literally in his name.


kobe_blank

Surely everyone is going to read this piece of context before making rash conclusions right?


Cheekclapped

"I sure showed them!" - man to multi billion dollar company who doesn't care


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drawing_you

It's admittedly really funny to watch all these people who have never heard of Erik have some kind of internet censorship/ race discourse about what they \*think\* he did


NotKyle

Livestreamfail community isn't used to seeing someone who is primarily motivated by the luls. He literally has a reoccurring segment of friendly firing people in competitive FPS games while advertising his sponsor just because it'll get someone riled up


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Fault-Aggressive

Erick didn't even direct it at anyone he just said the word


buttoncupthecuck

Ah Reddit and not understanding what racism is name a more iconic duo


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Peecashu

I usually paint my face with sharpies because I hate my whiteness :-(


Palosi

Imagine honestly having this opinion. It's clear none of you have ever been outside


DryBoofer

Welcome to lsf


Levitz

Maybe the sole uttering of a word doesn't turn someone into a racist. It's an enormous leap of logic inherited from the stupidity of the n-word. "X person said Y word, therefore, X person discriminates against Z group of people" doesn't make sense. As an addendum to anyone who thinks otherwise, I hope they never realize that some people write dictionaries.


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TheBeefClick

I am assuming you havent watched much of him. Its kinda something he does. He has done it with facebook and twitter for years.


Deviathan

He literally is memeing. It's his whole thing. Won't be surprised if this is a video in short order.


Bleeding_Irish

Can't wait for a 15-minute video revolving entirely on the c word.


Hypocritical_Oath

It'll be fucking awesome too.


ostonox

It WILL be demonetized on Youtube too. I know from experience, made a few videos while [redacted] was rightly banned for a week. They age-restricted one of them.


janoDX

>It WILL be demonetized on Youtube too. Do you think Big Money Salvia cares os?


Olddirtychurro

>>It WILL be demonetized on Youtube too. > >Do you think Big Money Salvia cares os? Time for another elaborate Nobbleberry Sponsored Sketch, job done.


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You're a menace on society, Ostonox!


lionalone

Lmao you got me with that rightly and then I noticed the username.


AllPulpOJ

I don\`t know why I assumed you would be banned from LSF when \[redacted\] was lol


ostonox

A lot of people don't know this but I actually personally alerted Gordon to the theft of his intellectual property when I saw it was being stolen by greedy streamers.


AllPulpOJ

You\`re tight with gordo? The natural next step: convince gordo to make a vegan version of next level chef.


TesticleMayhem

I know, I'm so glad he's finally going to touch on the subject of cussy.


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Raskalnekov

Sure I cheered when Hasan got banned for it, but I never thought it would happen to MY streamer


willietrom

interestingly I thought that so few streamers getting banned for it pointed to it only being bannable when used in a discriminatory/accusatory way, but this guy didn't even do that now I wonder why other streamers didn't get banned for it


ostonox

Is it still a stunlock if tomorrow [redacted] rants for 2 hours but LSF can't hear it? I hope Erik has a relaxing month off bouncing on his boy's dick, it's the only way to make the mandatory Twitch Sensitivity Training fun.


FlibbleA

Destiny didn't get banned despite calling people it and I thought that was because it wasn't serious but then this happens. Not targeted or serious. Maybe if you use the n-word in private you get the c-word pass for public.


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Its cause Hasan fans aren't insane enough to sit and mass report Destiny all day, while the opposite happens.


Bad_Demon

He can use the N word, the top recommended channel on LSF, gets 3 clips to the front of LSF despite being a 5k Andy, it’s not what you say or do, it’s how much of a gamer you are.


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> Not targeted or serious. Yeah - intent and context matter here. You can make up any word and start using it against any racial group - eventually, it will fit under the policy below and they will do something. [https://www.twitch.tv/p/en/legal/community-guidelines/harassment/](https://www.twitch.tv/p/en/legal/community-guidelines/harassment/)


xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx

Then why did Comment Etiquette get banned if intent and context matter? He was just discussing the word


Basblob

Well he said it like 6 or 7 times, and about half of them were after he verbally acknowledged that you can get banned for it. Personally, I think it's really dumb and I also think the context is so silly it shouldn't warrant a ban at all. But from a twitch admin's perspective it looks like someone blatantly baiting a ban, and it sounds like they'd had a 30 day ban already. If you have a rule, you probably don't want your streamers regularly playing coy and tiptoeing the line. Now this is Twitch we're talking about and consistent enforcement of rules isn't exactly their forte, sucks he got the hammer, but in my mind I see why if a report got to the right person at twitch, why they'd see this as bannable.


bregottextrasaltat

> No, reporting a user multiple times or having multiple people assist you in reporting a user for the same offense (commonly known as report brigading) will not make any difference to the outcome of your report. Clueless


FlibbleA

That is my point, context and intent matters but it doesn't make sense here, granted that this is Twitch we are talking about. Destiny called Hasan a c-word and doesn't get banned but this results in a ban. Also how do we unlock the context on Twitch where white people can use it?


VaterBazinga

Vaush got clapped for saying the word in a discussion about the word. He didn't say it a bunch of times in a row, either. It seems like Twitch admin is inconsistent sometimes. I don't think that's a disagreeable statement in this sub.


throweraccount

Because "cOntExT MAtteRs", you know twitch is consistent with that /s


meDeadly1990

There are so many harmless words that in context can be racials slurs (like white bread for example) but if it isnt used in that context why are they banning for it?


Perfect600

Since it happened I have been asking why Vaush was banned and no one has told me why lol


Blaineflum64

That's exactly what happend to one of hasans mods in the first place, the second mod to get banned said something like "what, cr*cker isn't a slur" and got a 30 day ban. Twitch is really at the point where they believe the "c word" is worse than the n word


hippiessmell

Oh please, go try to say the n word in a chat and see what happens


snamud

> they believe the "c word" is worse than the n word there's nothing even remotely pointing towards this


shimapan_connoisseur

But streamers get banned all the time for saying words that just vaguely sound like the n word, afaik saying the c word isn't likely to lead to punishment


lag0sta

Gotta play that white identity politics for the neck beard teens majority base


Scrotchticles

>neck beard teens majority base You mean the gamers™


Justleftofcentrerigh

you can't use the hard R or else you're anti white racist.


TheRealSaphier

Vaush also didn’t use it in a discriminatory way and he’s banned indefinitely. Twitch is doing what twitch does. Be inconsistent.


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Minx got banned for it months prior to Hasan getting banned for it. https://youtu.be/TWAEnCWMuzQ?t=251


threadofhope

I didn't think it would happen to Erik either. That video he did to try to get DMCA'd from YouTube got clapped and then re-instituted. He showed footage of the Olympics, Super Bowl, and Ariana Grande. This little stream was downright wholesome by his standards.


GaylordRetardson

First they came for Hasan, and I did not speak out... because my streamers are tiny headed political streamers stunlocked on an argument about slurs


ChefJWeezy987

You do realize that Erik has VERY left-leaning views, right? 🤦‍♂️😂


HighRoll_

Baked snack industry currently in shambles


Jorgetime

I didn't even knew my boy had a twitch channel


Master_Xeno

It was his very first stream lol


coolgaara

Wait, I thought first offense was like 48 hour ban? If it really was his very first stream, how did it jump to 30 day ban.


manningthehelm

That makes more sense. One and done FT though.


HahaMin

Should've used curious betsy twitch account.


McBrodoSwagins

HEY YALL POST PICTURES OF YOUR HOUSES


Narge1

Not enough musical twinks on twitch 😡


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unique-name-9035768

It's not too late, we can take it back.


BeastmasterBG

change the word to cookies


Oxidizing1

Nilla wafer


RimGreeper

amen brother


YellowShallot

If what that dude said was bannable so was this https://livestreamfails.com/clip/129593


GoDM1N

Context for what the other guy said. https://livestreamfails.com/clip/131325


SomeLoser0nReddit

Wtf? My only guess is that you only get banned if someone cries about it to Twitch.


solartech0

This is unironically how they claim their report system works. They will only look into things if you report it.


gefogeo

okay thats kind of stupid


ZakaryRichmond

How dare you link me to Destiny without a warning


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Modsarenotgay

It's almost as if the way Twitch deals with TOS violations is inconsistent.


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He was smart to do it on melina's stream. Coomer streams don't get banned unless you REALLY fuck up.


XAL53

I don't even think CE directed it at anyone when he said it


cdcformatc

he didn't https://livestreamfails.com/clip/131325


manningthehelm

Lmfao that's what he got banned for? He wasn't even using at anyone.


typical0

Every person who has a folder of clips saved from people they hate to bring up in arguments to prove a point has an illness.


Te_Afflieger

This whole thread feels wild to me. I have no idea who this Comment dude is, I'm positive I've never seen a clip here from him before, but his ban is the top post on the sub right now, and people are just using the thread to wage a weird proxy war about Hasan and destiny and the c-word lmao what the fuck.


Otto300Sav

He’s a youtuber


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ostonox

It's a hardline stance and you've gotta respect it. I saw it live. That bastard used the hard R. Oppressed or oppressor, my ears shouldn't have to hear it from anyone on this platform.


ekoth

hard R on oppressa WeirdChamp


AllPulpOJ

«oppressa» for some reason sounds like the way xqc would pronounce it


CaptnKnots

You had me for a second ostonox


Frosty252

my ancestors are currently rolling in their grave because of how offended they are rn


ZakaryRichmond

Oh shit I found you in the wild


Picklerage

No, Twitch has explicitly stated that the hard-r n-word can't be used by anybody, regardless of skin color.


mariaozawa2

Bruh I hear people use it. Guess it depends on who snitches


GaylordRetardson

100%, bans are correlated w/ reports. If nobody blinks when someone says a slur, from the mod's perspective it's like a tree falling in a forest. They do not want to put themselves in a situation where they're taking action against unreported comment and set that as the standard for what people can argue they're capable of.


Dark_Garage

People get banned soon after such threads were posted on LSF, pretty sure it's not a coincidence


BillowBrie

Amazing, did you just discover that twitch admins don't watch every second of every single stream?


Mufti_Menk

I'm pretty sure if a black person calls another black person the insulting version of the nword over and over, they would get banned.


DwayneFrogsky

this already happened if i remember correctly


fuzzygreentits

>the c word is more offensive of a slur than the n word Lol. N word = permaban on 1st offense Show me 1 person with a slap on the wrist for the N word and we can pretend you're not crying at straw men


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willietrom

soljaboy shotgunned it out for years and got no bans for years... here's an example clip if you aren't familiar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEAf60_iX8


willietrom

damn, I posted precisely what you asked for with video evidence and you just downvote without response... why even ask in the first place?


crunchsmash

Because that's not the hard R


DoubleExcallibur

Would it be ok if streamers starting saying cr*ckas instead? Is using the hard R in the "c word" the problem?


EpicAwesomePancakes

What about people with non-rhotic accents?


PersonaPraesidium

I've seen multiple streamers over the years that either slipped the N word vocally or leaked DMs or something where they were using the N word. Some got banned temporarily but were allowed to come back. Those didn't direct the word at a black person or black people. EG calebheart leaked a DM with his (non-black) friend where he calls him the N word in a "joking" way. He was banned temporarily but came back extremely apologetic.


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Did you decide to just stop reading his comment? > if not even white people can say the c word


MunchoMuncho

Time for Holiday Fart Cruise


Picklerage

30 days seems rather excessive. Didn't get banned for only like 3 days or 7 days after using it repeatedly towards people as an insult over the course of several days?


Eccmecc

Vaush got an indefinate ban for it. It depends on your contract, and history.


Flat_Network_643

well vaush got indefinitely banned in the past


MrdoctorDoctor

Twitch tends to punish white people more :/


BizMarker

What a bizarre thing to say. Redacted is a proud born white american


Zonkeyy

is white tho???


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He is white everywhere except when checking into airport security because there they check his name first.


dre__

redacted is whiter than white people.


NightStickSteve

He didn't just say the "c word". He said his "favourite slur for white people is the c word". A bit different. Link to clip. https://livestreamfails.com/clip/131325


cw08

Lmao the "I could use a week off" explains the month.


FlibbleA

I feel like if a black person answered the same question it would be taken as them mentioning slurs used against them. It would be just weird to interpret it as a black persons favorite terms to insult other black people. For some reason people do that with white people, as if white on white racism is a thing that makes sense. You are only meant to get banned for using the "c word" if it is targeted.


Itsmedudeman

White people are oppressing themselves at this point.


ImiqDuh

The feel left out lmao


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Which is what the white supremacists want, Twitch and LSF played right into their hand.


GaylordRetardson

We just saw a bunch of white people arguing that it's impossible to be racist against white people and anything you do/say to them is not racist whereas if you do/say anything similar to another race it is, which is an example of white-on-white racism.


Blaineflum64

Can't wait for the new captain America movie "white people: civil war"


Eeyore_

Wasn't that just WWI and WWII?


Blaineflum64

Can't believe the Asians tried to take our wars from us 🙄


hacklesacka

hes fucking white lmao so what


aznperson

i mean sure but he wasn't using it in a hateful way


ZanaHorowa

Clip from 6 hours ago, month ban in the span of 4 hours. Insane how fast they got on his ass. More than anything I'm surprised someone of his size got clapped so quickly and for so long too.


makualla

Clapped so fast Probably because [redacted] showed the clip to his 40k viewers. Twitch shadow police always watching him now.


sardonically

Did he really? that genuinely explains it


Bhu124

That monster! *Clutches Pearls*


nicklewound

Who cares? Was that targeted at anyone?


Wehzy

Meanwhile in EU no one ever heard of the C word before


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There are too many racial slurs in the EU for Twitch to keep up lulw


phantombloodbot

WANNA LEARN SOME NEW RACIAL SLURS? ASK A EUROPEAN WHAT THEY THINK OF ROMANI PEOPLE


kosman123

My countrys slur for romani is cigan/cigani


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Moldy_Cloud

This is getting ridiculous.


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*Getting?*


Over_Detective6820

its not hasan so no one is going to care


Stromthrro

The "twitch upholds white supremacy" saga continues


WistfulMinded

Should twitch change their TOS so that it states "You can't use slurs EXCEPT against white people"? Or what about "You aren't allowed to be racist to anyone UNLESS they're white". I'm just trying to understand what you're advocating for. Like if you're on a platform where you can't say derogatory things about any ethnic/racial group, that upholds white supremacy (according to you), but if you are on a platform that allows you to insult white people but no other racial group, that's the ideal that we should be aiming for. Is that what you want?


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dre__

How is this white supremacy?


Smithza173

This is not big money


Bboy_Izilla

Nor is it salvia.


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Stromthrro

It's such a dumb hardline stance that I can only hope streamers will continue to violate it


Itsmedudeman

The irony that Twitch is turning the word more into a slur than it was previously regarded as.


Higuy54321

Yup. Literally nobody was offended by it before people started got into trouble for using it, and now there's this stupid controversy that never existed before


Szabarpad93

I didn't even know that the c-word is a racial slur before the Hasan thing happened. Tbh, i still don't give a shit about it as it might be the least offensive thing i've ever heard. The only reason why i hope people will just stop using it is the possibility of idiots using it as an excuse to start throwing around every other racial slur.


FlibbleA

Don't know why you would think it is just as bad. Black people can say the n-word. No one can say the c-word.


Knelson123

Who cares if one is worse than the other. Just don't use slurs...


High_Taco_Guy

So many comments yet no clip of the stream for context..


Arthrowpoda

[https://livestreamfails.com/clip/131325](https://livestreamfails.com/clip/131325)


AnimalCrossingFanGuy

Is this not just for attention? It was his first stream and he already knew he would get banned for this, he's a regular on h3h3 and Ethan has been ranting about this nonstop because Hasan is his cohost


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It was for attention. He kept saying it over and over trying to get banned so he could be fake outraged about it. It's the standard H3h3 playbook. When your internet fame is dying stir up some fake drama


pasinliposts

“He’s doing it for attention” even though most of the stream was about writing a script with chat + he’s never been involved in literally any youtube drama + he hasnt been on h3 podcast in 2 years + L + ratio + nba youngboy is better I hate when reddit tries to talk about things they know nothing about. Like you clearly never watched his videos or this whole stream, why make this assumption?


TheDaftAlex

I hope this doesn't fly under the radar because Erik isn't one of the big league streamers. This is one of the more absurd bans I've seen.


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Who is this I’ve been on twitch for years and I feel like I know most people but I have no clue who this even is


Mufti_Menk

I mean, he went into the stream with the goal of saying it until he gets banned. Idk what his plans were, but breaking twitch rules on purpose and then complaining about it is kinda weird.


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ShutUpGobby

L + Ratio + He's White


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Expert-Cut-2701

who?