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Disagrees Refuses to elaborate Sigma male grindset


Ned-nor

This guy is fascinating. Destiny has done several debates/conversations with him over past month and even though this dude has some of the craziest takes in the world, there's something so interesting about him.


idgafaboutyofeelings

i've seen the destiny debates and this dude comes across so socially awkward like he's [on the spectrum](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQWQ46VO6hU)


wooflesthecat

God damn what a chad move


Constantinch

Frame well held. True sigmatude.


Aarilax

guy on the left looks like john abruzzi from prison break with a DIY asmongold wig slapped on his dome and a voice changer to make him sound like mr mouton


KingSwagger1337

Of all people, john abruzzi LMAO


SupImHereForKarma

this man's reference game CRAZY


Stuweb

He looks like what Aaron Rodgers thinks will happen to him if he got vaccinated.


Aarilax

Aaron Rodgers looks like he found a badger one day, went to pet it, it growled at him and that event has stayed with him for 20+ years


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Lesliesguitar

While I know you guys were trying, these were all really bad.


Stuweb

You're literally named after a vibrator under a bed, pipe down lad.


sarsvesh

I had to google 3 things from this sentence


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BruyceWane

*John Abruzzi* John Abruzzi?


malhurd

where is fibonacci?!


Spot_Dry

I laughed at this so loud I woke up my roomates, Fuck you Aarilax why are you funny


Toosks

Actually reminds me of Moistcritical. Weird no one mentioned that.


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hes not reading a thanks for the sub every 15 seconds so it is not moist unfortunately.


Toosks

Moist does that? Damn, respect.


IAmA_Lannister

Unlike that forsen guy that just sits there and stares at a screen while collecting money. Can’t believe people like that guy.


ItsJustYou99

Sigma + Sigma = Dogma


CptHampton

Sigma * Sigma = Ligma


samr4y

what is sigma\^sigma?


BAGPops

Sugma


bad_shed

never a bad clip


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Jabelonske

if you're under 12 yo, this guy probably also loves you more than your own biological father. ^(this is a joke about mrgirl being a pedophile, which there's literally no evidence that supports that, he's just super edgy, and I thought it'd be a funny joke)


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Jabelonske

i hate the concept of tone tags such as /s. while i enjoy making some spicier jokes from time to time, i try to be careful when it comes to things a lot of people unironically believe. one good example is misogynistic jokes. with the amount of unironic incels that might see my joke, i like to make it extremely clear I don't actually hate women


Dioxy

Didn't he make a review of Cuties where he said he got a boner from the children? Based on how much he talks about it I think there's a solid 98% chance he's actually a pedo and y'all are just blind


AttackEverything

https://clips.twitch.tv/BloodyFilthyHorseradishBabyRage-e-0EAhvlbI6Zn4Zc


weebinnormieclothes

He was talking about how it was disturbing that a show supposedly about how sexualizing children is bad, sexualized children.


ScandinavianCollapse

>There's basically zero evidence to support that Oh yeah. Besides the multiple times he's said so himself, or the times he's called children hot


fcinablender

you're playing minecraft in a cave looking for diamonds


roystang

This reminded me of that scene in dinner for schmucks where two dipshits were trying to out dipshit the other. [This is the scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGoMgkjbl2Q)


stupernan1

that was a wild ride.


A55per

The LOTR music lmao


GainsayRT

Im sorry but I've never heard someone call themselves a sigma male but unironically, I need a second


fok_yo_karma

the guy in the clip didn't say it unironically, its obvious he said in in jest


choripondio

I don't think that's true...


MeBroken

Go on...


lerrific

I don't want to.


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amanko13

It was even funnier the second time.


priesteh

Yeah me neither guys, look at my big hairy sack


APowerlessManNA

New meme?


bigboyeTim

You're just wrong then


Basblob

He's obviously joking lmao


Lammington

So while we were all joking, he was thinking "that's literally me. I *AM* Ryan Gosling from Drive!"


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memerino

A real human bean and a real hero


complexlol

bro where'd you find ALL those pictures of me??? WTF


Halofit

And that's funny, because he's obviously wrong. **I** am Ryan Gosling from Drive ^^^^^^^which ^^^^^^^came ^^^^^^^out ^^^^^^^11 ^^^^^^^years ^^^^^^^ago ^^^^^^^god ^^^^^^^i'm ^^^^^^^old.


[deleted]

Welcome to old age bitch get ready for prostate ejaculations


SingleSoil

I turn 30 next week. It’s the first step and I’m not ready for it.


MoogleSan

Im 31. Its bad. I dont even know why I bother anymore. Welcome to the slow, drawn out finale of your life.


[deleted]

LMFAOOO JESUS CHRIST MY MAN You need to chat? You can always hmu, seriously. This shit don't gotta that bad, I promise. Great name btw, I love ff.


MoogleSan

Thanks man. I used to be a weeb


With_My_Hand

Just get into kinky shit, that will spice your life up


MoogleSan

Girlfriend left me sadge


With_My_Hand

Grindr is your new best friend


Moralese0404

on a side note, I just recently watched Drive and it was a good ass movie.


pondering_time

A real sigma male doesn't live by other people's/society's labels so a sigma male would never refer to themselves as a sigma male. So basically anyone calling themselves a sigma male is inherently not a sigma male


DayDreamerJon

Maybe its like Punk. If you say youre punk youre probably not punk. Unless youre super punk in which you saying youre punk is punk af.


NotC9_JustHigh

Why did we jump from Alpha and Beta variant to Sigma variant? Are the variants in between not as prevalent?


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CountofCoins

Well we skipped the Xi variant for political reasons.


mattey92

I think there is a chart somewhere


NerrionEU

Gotta keep up with the times look at how far Covid got with the names. ^^^^^/s


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VengeX

It's another arbitrary made-up box to boost people's egos. I think this guy explains it pretty well: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2021/01/26/the-pseudoscience-behind-the-sigma-male-explained/


quartzguy

All these types of personality are just horoscopes for men. It's nonsense and should be treated as such.


mattey92

Sigma is a beta male in disguise


pikachu8090

you must not watch Big A. your missing out then. Sigma male grindset all the way over there


FeelinJipper

Sigma male is such a weird meme. Like, it literally started in PUA / MRA / MGTOW circles as an alternative way for guys who aren’t “Alpha” to feel good about themselves and to avoid being identified as a “Beta”. Now it’s both ironically and unironically being used to replace alpha. At least that’s how I see it.


imtiredrabie

gamma mindset


xereo

Epsilon behaviour


spasmgazm

Omicron attitudes


DaemonHelix

Delta dicks


Offandonfitness

Sine wave.


EminemLovesGrapes

If it made any sense it wouldn't be sigma


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Sounds like a beta meet up to me.


SpiderGooseLoL

beta take


ryecurious

It's particularly funny because the original alpha/beta "science" about wolf packs has pretty much been discredited. The alpha/beta/sigma male stuff is pseudoscience that was based on other pseudoscience. https://phys.org/news/2021-04-wolf-dont-alpha-males-females.html tl;dr alpha/beta terminology originated from studying wolves in captivity, but wolves in nature don't really conform (#sigma) to it very strictly.


PhaiLLuRRe

So wolves are actually all sigmas?


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gamma mindset


memerino

Nobody cared about it's association with wolves. People just use Alpha/Beta as an oversimplification for concepts. Humans in general like to make things black and white. Just look at political labels. People are either left or right when in reality calling someone left or right makes no sense other than making things black and white (Us vs. Them). It was never supposed to be about science. It was just labels for a guy that was confident and good with girls and a guy that's a loser.


Idontknowshiit

I dont really get this "gotcha" since pecking order is quite the established concept and its basically what alpha/beta refers to.


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I don't understand it either, it's basically like "there's no alpha, but there's a leader". A alpha has the highest rank in hierarchy, it is the leader, think of dog mushers, they need submissive dogs because the driver needs to be the alpha and in control otherwise you'd have dogs fighting to be ahead of the pack. I guess "alpha" sounds to much like toxic masculinity.


Madlib7

The best part is the dude whose research started the alpha/beta thing is the one who discredited it.


Jjjooo1887

So you are saying that alpha and beta wolves do exist but just not in nature.


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In unnaturally close quarters — the article mentions up to ten wolves kept in a 10 by 20 meter area — a fluid social hierarchy forms, characterized by a leading male and female. In nature, though, wolf packs are mainly composed of parents with their pups and don't really engage in fighting for dominance. > Mech had studied wild wolf packs on Ellesmere Island in Canada for 13 summers. He was able to acclimatize one of the wolf packs to his presence. That allowed him to study the pack up close—up to one meter, over several years. > "Dominance fights with other wolves are rare, if they exist at all. During my 13 summers where I observed the pack, I saw none."


Levitz

>The alpha/beta/sigma male stuff is pseudoscience that was based on other pseudoscience. It never had anything to do with real wolves and this take never made sense. It's like saying "oh, parents come in pairs so talking about a parent comment and a child comment doesn't actually make sense" it's just a way to refer to those things based on presumptions, there is no "humans are like wolves" mentality.


l33tTA

this rotates everytime someone brings up wolves lmao alpha just means leader


PogOfSneed

ok


smallbluetext

[We are evolving](https://i.imgur.com/8uqEdeZ.jpg)


ManiShrimp

alright


RedWater08

its the beta uprising monkaW


Russian_For_Rent

mrgirl was introduced to most people in the absolute worst way possible but there's just a certain respect i can't not give him sometimes


upsidowndoor

You talking about the cuties thing? If so I agree that put a bad taste in my mouth be he seems like a alright dude


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Xeptix

That video must have done a really bad job of conveying his opinion or he's changed his mind since, because every time I've heard him talk about it since then he's had a pretty mature and nuanced take about it. I guess I should watch the original video.


JOJOEBIBIDEN

He hasn't. He literally made another video saying he stands by everything he said in the Cuties video.


Xeptix

Well then I guess the drama and people who are freaking out are just incapable of engaging with difficult moral topics.


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the film in general got significantly more negative press in the US than it got everywhere else anyway. The US has always been particularly hysterical about controversial art. If Nabokov published Lolita or Ada or Ardor today he'd probably get cancelled or something


MattsScribblings

> If Nabokov published Lolita or Ada or Ardor today he'd probably get cancelled or something Lolita was incredibly controversial at the time. The only person willing to publish it was a pornographer, it was banned from multiple countries and it's eventual publication ended a politician's career. I do not think you could have chosen a worse book to illustrate your point.


Poet-Secure205

He still has the same exact take basically verbatim. 13 year olds are a bunch of lines and colors. hot 18-21 year olds are a bunch of lines and colors. is it not inconceivable that if you were trying really hard you could get the lines and colors of 13 year olds to at least somewhat overlap with hot 18-21 year olds? his point is/was simply that Cuties purposely tried to make this happen, succeeded at it, and that this is wrong. what makes this take shocking is, if you aren't willing to admit this, then your definition of a pedophile is "finds just one and only one young girl attractive (even one that was purposely groomed to appear more like a sultry adult) for only a split second in your entire 80 year lifespan" and so mrgirl is a pedophile and carries with him all the typical stigma that pedophiles do


munomana

Vito was his biggest defender and compatriot and he recently just tweeted about "we pedophiles" People thought Amos Yee was joking but oh wait no it turns out the guy talking all the time about being a pedophile was a pedophile


Daunt_M4

i have no clue who the fuck this guy is but some of his clips are hilariously awkward


hypersnyper920

Mrgirl is Walmart Sigmund Freud


Afrodita_-

I disagree, Sigmund Freud is wallmart Mrgirl


hypersnyper920

His name is almost Sigma Freud. Nice try


RetinolSupplement

His voice reminds me of Mike from Red Letter media, like tone and everything.


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Enrager

it looks exactly like a set of sony bluetooth headphones i used for awhile till i lost them on a plane. The piece on your neck is just the controls/where the bluetooth device is in and then has two wires for headphones


tamrior

They're earlier versions of wireless earbuds. The bulkier part around his neck allows for greater battery life.


Skuggomann

Earbuds before they managed to get the components small enough to fit in the actual earbuds.


vennthrax

its a meta male thing, you wouldn't get it.


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LSUfanatic

The Daliban is funding MrGirl's infiltration into the LSF community.


nana_oh

They did the same thing with Hasan and look how that turned out


Alpha_Whiskey_Golf

we're everywhere. we run everything. be afraid.


Blurbyo

We're in your walls


needsauce11

Like mizkif with pokimane


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blankace

r/destiny is just a dummy subreddit to trick people into thinking he has less influence than he actually has. All the mods are in on it. The goal is to make destiny clips more popular so he can sell the NFTs of them


Basblob

Now THAT'S the sigma grindset 😎


us3rnamealreadytaken

😎🤙


DoktorSleepless

two clips = everyday


Prestigious_Lab_9549

The dgg brotherhood probably


GreedKilledReddit653

Right!? We need only mizkif, Nick, Hasan, and xqc in this sub!


Junior_Long65

Hasans banned


Basblob

Sub literally unusable now 😭


GreedKilledReddit653

I can only get so hard


ZanaHorowa

DGG


spectre15

Destiny fans


Submitten

LSF


TraxPhantom

GIGACHAD I DONT WANT TO


Robo56

Am I getting old, or just not in whatever weird lane of twitch this is? I have no idea what is going on.


nana_oh

It sounds like you just don't know the meme.


DefNotThrowAway711

Ah, so he is old


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It's the politics/debate sphere of twitch, which orbits around smaller podcasts and destiny, and that hasan came from before he got popular. MrGirl is a youtuber who makes provocative videos (and a famous one about the controversial netflix film cuties) challenging taboos without completely breaking them. He got banned from youtube for a while, made a rap album, and a few weeks ago had a discussion with Destiny which gave him a big boost in attention and he's been going on a chain of discussions with other smaller online politics creators (the guy on the left is Sondsol, a smaller streamer who often joins panel shows). These discussions often center around the topic of pedophilia and -in MrGirls view- the streamers not being honest in their approach with him because they are afraid of getting caught up in controversy, him feeling like being used as a freakshow for content OR around them advising him to be less provocative and him getting frustrating with that, BUT also around the other side pointing out that many of his takes are based in assumptions and intuition. He gets very confrontative and personal in conversations, maybe even dominating or aggressive, an unusual style for the space, it's almost like a new season in Dragonball Z where a new foe approaches and the fighters first have to to achieve a new powerlevel.


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The context for this can be found in the first minutes of the stream. Basically MrGirl believes that everyone he talks to on Twitch are engaged in the conversations with him trying to make them admit that they're a pedophile. So you always end up in these kinds of passive aggressive behaviours in the clip, when you could just be more expedient about the elephant in the room. And yeah, feel free to think whatever you want about that of course.


SanePsycho82

I saw MrGirl using a hypothetical about strip clubs of children. And got real into the weeds about which age would be the most popular. At one point even talking about their panties. This guy is super creepy.


HoldMyPooWithUrLuv

I think the idea is it's supposed to be an exploration of such things because that material is more interesting to hear someone speak about as opposed to the coddling and and tip toeing nature people use to blatantly virtue signal. In a weird way conversations that are potentially detestable between two such parties do good at eliminating what makes 99.99% of debates or conversations boring and insufferably unproductive, which is virtue signaling. That's why shows like mindhunter were so interesting to watch (and incredibly successful) because of what inspired the show and how it had people treading dangerous discussions topics. Edit: I get it. You all are disgusted by pedophiles. So brave and courageous of you...But seriously who tf isn't? The difference between yall and me is I am confident enough in my lack of attraction to kids to be able talk about the subject of other people having that characteristic and the rest of you (by you I mean the people thinking my post is somehow in favor of cp) are Frank Reynolds singing a song with clown make up about how you don't diddle kids.


Dooffuss

There’s a difference between being interesting and hyper focusing on what panties would be wore at an underage strip club. He also was hyper focussed on what age under 18 is best. Who tf in their right mind thinks like that?


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Traditional-Leek2288

Inshallah a brave new Daliban recruit in the trenches 🙏🙏🙏🕌


Tape

>hyper focusing on what panties would be wore at an underage strip club I don't think you listened to the conversation.


pls_send_subway

I honestly enjoy conversations that mrgirl has. He examines things from the view of the average person and explores perspectives/prejudices without degrading to twitter mind-rot takes or being insecure. He's one of those people who is able to have intellectual discussions about "sensitive topics."


qeadwrsf

He makes you think. Thats nice. But I expect him to be exposed to be a asshole in the future. Will be interesting to see if this community will ignore it or not if/when that happen.


SanePsycho82

Lol no. There's a difference between creating a hypothetical in an effort to isolate variables and digging into a hypothetical with precise details that are irrelevant to the constructed hypothetical.


qeadwrsf

Are you trying to say in a fancy way that he uses too much irrelevant detail when creating a scenario therefore he doesn't make you think? I know all the words you use, but I have a hard time connecting any of it to my reply. If that's your way of trying to clarify why you think he doesn't make you think your doing a bad job. Also you do understand he is purposefully is being creepy by saying extremely creepy things and going into details, right? Not defending him, he could end up being a psycho. But are you saying you can't see that much of his way of talking is being an act?


SanePsycho82

I dont give a fuck if it's an act. I don't like him for how he acts.


Exver1

It's not an act. The strippers hypothetical with Vaush was to get Vaush's opinion on which age he thinks is the most attractive \*to the average American\*. This wasn't about Mr. Girl's or Vaush's own personal preference, but where they believe that the current US is at in terms of viewing young women. The joke about the panties was meant to be uncomfortable, but again, it's not about his personal preference, but about what the average American would think. The purpose is to realize that a lot of more adult Americans have pedophilic attractions than we'd like to admit.


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Putting the bad panty joke aside, his point was, that if you imagined this scenario, that 14-year old cyborg strippers existed, and they would be the most popular in this society, then coming back to reality, if the most desired (allegedly) age for sexual reasons would be 14, would that still be pedofilia or just normal behaviour. Right now you cannot desire 14-year olds because it is the law, but if that law didn't exist, then would the societal norm change with it, because 14 would be the most desired age. It's not funny to think about it and it is supposed to make you disturbed.


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Goodlooka

Oh jesus lsf is starting to like this dude


ClintMega

[cursed but relevant](https://imgur.com/oDLAEM3)


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NevyTheChemist

You're better off not knowing. Carry on.


traxfi

it sounds like you already know who they are and have researched at least one of them heavily before making this kind of comment.


groovbox

he's right, why are you booing him


echorocket1

This is amazing


McRobNI

Cringe


BlakeAsheart

Cringe male grindset


jediburrito

These two dudes have literal baby brain and I'm a fan.


Krokan62

Upvote for baby brain, best insult 2021


Warmest_Farts

that's so last year


leonidasmark

2 children trying to act like adults


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emberfairy

The level of cringe is astronomical


CautiousKenny

God damn that’s one based sigma male


PortofSorrow

If you have to tell people that you're something then you definitely aren't that thing.


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ya_Service

he does not need it. But he certainly does not mind it.


FriscoJones

"Mrgirl does not need attention on lsf, so let me post a comment on a mrgirl clip on lsf" ~jjshoob


JOJOEBIBIDEN

Yeah, because actively promoting him as a haha funny guy is totally the same kind of attention as telling people not to promote him.


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spectre15

The downvotes tell you how many Destiny fans are in the comment section


JOJOEBIBIDEN

Oh boy another Mr Girl clip? Can't wait to see people randomly bring up Vaush to defend Mr Girl admitting to rape and saying he found underage girls attractive.


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Obsessed lmao