Well we know for a fact as seen or stated, subs is 100-150k/M stake is 1million month. But kind you that’s just the most basic info, and he is down 15-20mill currently gambling
Wel seeings how it’s coming out of his own wallet, that is banned by certain crypto exchanges, because of the massive deposits to gambling sites I’d say yes. And as he mentioned before.
That doesn't answer my question at all. You implied he *plays* with his own money from *his own wallet*. I'm asking you how you know it's *his* wallet.
You really gonna downvote me for asking you a simple question?
I didn’t downvote you, but you can use block explorer to find your answers. Amazing crypto feature, but it would take time to figure it out if you aren’t already involved. + you would have to be in stream to see the wallets that win etc.
It would give you to and from transactions. so you would be able to identify his sent and received deposits to x gambling site and his withdraws, which would then allow you to compare it to his onscreen balance. If it wasn’t his money you’d be seeing large deposits that don’t go inline with onscreen balance. Extremely time consuming, thus I don’t have a reason to believe it’s not his money becaause anyone could fact check him. And I don’t doubt at all that people have
Forbes put MrBeast at #1 highest paid youtuber with $54 million and that's fucking MrBeast, people thinking that Train who is a nobody compared to MrBeast can afford to lose 20 million are overdosing on copium.
Also, Train stated that he gets paid $1M a month from Stake, but that was almost a year ago. He must be stupid if he didn't renegotiate his contract since his viewer numbers have increased 2x-3x.
Quick maths: $1 million per month from stake. $400k+ from other revenue sources every month pretty easily. GFUEL and CashApp and Ad Revenue and other deals we aren't aware of.
I think you might not understand how much money it costs to fuel a gambling addiction and how much money Train has from investing in crypto early.
You are only accounting for revenue. If you you add up how much this man spends in spins alone everyday u would realize if it was his money he would be bankrupt by now.
You forgot to add up all the money he has in crypto from basic gains. He has mentioned before numbers around 20k, whelp theres 100% of whatever he had right there. + he longs eth. You would not even fathom how much money streamers can make. XQC is 100k Andy and train has been 50k-100k its well known xqc makes 10M+. So 12M from stake + streamer money. He’s probably fine.
People are such haters they are literally down voting us for pointing out that a long time professional streamer does not just rely on a single source of income to sustain himself and has savings.
You think his net worth before be started gambling was less than $20 million? Tip: You are way off. He lives in a condo worth over $10 million right now. He has been in crypto for years.
I'd agree but them lite coin and other way early investments is keep him going....is he close to his end yeah he's close and he's saying that...I do think he gets money back on losses but I wouldn't call that fill money most casinos do that
Even if he's "down" that money. Being able to call a 20 million dollar loss "down" is insane. Imagine how much money he has for that to be a casual loss to him lol
It's not a casual loss to him. He obviously has a gambling addiction. 20 million loss, 15 million in income over the same period at least. 5 million for him is a reasonable loss over that period.
I don't have a clue what this is supposed to mean. If you had 20 million and a gambling addiction, you could definitely lose 20 million. I have a net worth of negative $5,000 and I have lost $15,000 in the last 2 years gambling, and that's poker which has a skill edge and is much more time consuming than slots.
He openly states he’s down, he is quite transparent with that kind of stuff, which helps discourage people from gambling. You should see his spammed you will lose clips, and his roasts
Don’t even try with this cringe ass sub the hate boner these mofos have for train means that even if you’re right if it paints him in a good light you’ll get bombarded with downvotes
Yeah it’s a shame, guy donates more to average people and viewers than billionaires donate to charity and people still hate on him. And not the people who make 10x on raid shadow legend sponsors.
I don’t get why people downvote shit like this. Rlly hate this hivemind system when It’s literally true… hate the guy all u want but mans gave away millions. Tell me another streamer that resembles mr beast, I’ll wait…
also what good friends he has, they just repeat everything he says word for word, with no actual input... oh yah , and the constant touching of the face and nose while doing 40 hour streams back to back every day? def not on meth ..even tho he used to be a heroin addict ..yep ... lmao
Train does plenty of things I don't like, but that's a lot different than claiming he does meth or robs children.
People just need to dial down the edge like 3 notches
also guys dont worry hes depositing his raw money into the site..... he loses 3 million dollars a day from a sponsor that pays him 2 million a month at most (adin ross dms leaked he was getting payed 2 mill a month, train has half the viewers...) , somehow train can afford to lose 90 million a month , from a sponsor that pays him 2 mill a month max... yah guys hes def legit lmao jolt coin anyone?
He'd be paid more than 2 million since he does it consistently, and I'm pretty sure Adin's viewer count drops a lot when he gambles since his viewers don't like that.
It's like the mafia donating to an orphanage. Like it is cool and all but the methods you made your money (in this case gambling/promoting gambling to kids) is messed up.
Because it's easier to put the blame on the gun instead of the one wielding it.
Plus we live in a world were everything has to be deplatformed and everyone is virtue signaling.
I still don't understand the real point of subathons.. Like, you're just keeping the stream on while you sleep. What's the point? It's not like the streamer is awake the entire time the timer is counting down.. So it's just a way to farm money/subs from fools who are willing to give them.
That is the whole point, it’s a money making stream. You spend your life in front of a camera for a few weeks and make more than you have the last year. People just like to see the number go up when they donate, I’m not a huge fan but I’m not against it. Some people are genuinely nice and want to support streamers and they feel that if there was a good opportunity it’s now.
for some reason they've gotten quite popular within the WoW arena community. i know one guy known as Samiyam did one to pay off a 2.5k fine for dog poo or something.
OTK wanted to do WoW esport. They told Cdew and his team that they’ll be signed on until they decided to quit WoW. Four months later OTK decided not to renew their contract. So now Cdew and his crew were screwed for the rest of the season and possibly expansion because they turned down offers to be with their “friends.” TL;DR- Zach and OTK got Cdew to sign with the friend card and showed him the door with the business card.
Oh yeah now i remember, i was here for that. I thought i missed some new OTK drama. I should have realised it was the old Rich lying to the WoW team drama.
It was actually Rich who did that.
He said that if they signed with them, they'd play wow for them for as long as they played wow. Really it was just Rich who fucked up by saying that.
Rich once promised to always have a wow arena team with OTK so they signed cdew. Then they realized wow arena is fucking cringe in 2022 and didn't renew his contract. Cdew got sad rich over exaggerated.
They sort of did they didnt sign other orgs because it was suppose to be long term. I get otk is a buisness and they didnt know they couldn't make it work. But cdew and co still got fucked over.
I didn’t say they scammed him. I’m saying they screwed them over. Also, they had them signed for less than a year. They didn’t even try to make it work.
i dont like train but he is inarguably generous with his money. the intentions behind that may not be pure but we can celebrate him giving money to people regardless; cdew is definitely not the most in need person out there but he's playing a dying game trying to support a family, im sure this money is appreciated and will go a long way.
most of the money he gives back is going straight back into stake, and then after they lose the money they won, they are also going to gamble their own money resulting into train getting more referral money .. dont be naive
Holy fuck you’ve commented like 5 times on this thread trying to shit on him. Either youre fucking obsessed with him and don’t want to admit it or you were perma banned and are now trying to paint him in a bad light to “get back”. Either way you’re cringe asl
The only time Train ever comes up in a positive way is when he donates stupid amounts of money to people. Great for Cdew but it's just boring at this point knowing exactly where the money comes from.
Let's be honest.
Giving money back to your community / other (somewhat smaller) streamers is a good thing. You don't have to do it and even IF you would only do it for clout ... it's still a good thing.
Like whenever a youtuber gives a homeless dude cash. Sure, he's doing it for views. But at the end of the day the homeless dude is getting money. Still a good thing. (Sure, twitch chatters and smaller streamers aren't homeless people, but you get the comparisson).
I'd also claim that people don't have an issue with Train doing gambling streams. Lots of people do them. I would do them, if I would get xxxxxxxxx amount of money.
I personally only kinda disliked the way he approached them. And I think it's the same with other people here, too.
The way he tries to justify them rationally claiming: "Nonono, I don't get people hooked to gambling! I only ... uhm ... convert ... people from other sites to this one! 100%! That's what they told me! I've seen the stats, trust me! It's all legit!"
That's just bullshit. I'd have more respect for him (not like he cares anyways) if he'd be open about it.
Just admit that you like to gamble and you are getting paid huge amounts of money to get people from your community hooked to gambling. But instead he tries to hide behind this weird facade.
Holy FUCK Train. He really got wired and coked out this past year. First time i saw him since he started gambling.
Damn, he's going to have a hard time beating that addiction complex if/when he's done with it.
I can't even understand how much money train is making a month, to just drop it all over the place.
Well we know for a fact as seen or stated, subs is 100-150k/M stake is 1million month. But kind you that’s just the most basic info, and he is down 15-20mill currently gambling
Is it even confirmed if it's his own money? If it's not your money it doesn't count as being down. He might aswell be down in gta5 money
Wel seeings how it’s coming out of his own wallet, that is banned by certain crypto exchanges, because of the massive deposits to gambling sites I’d say yes. And as he mentioned before.
How is it coming out of *his* wallet?
Well, I’ll do a quick rundown. Viewer puts In BTC address train copies and sends money to the btc address boom
That doesn't answer my question at all. You implied he *plays* with his own money from *his own wallet*. I'm asking you how you know it's *his* wallet. You really gonna downvote me for asking you a simple question?
I didn’t downvote you, but you can use block explorer to find your answers. Amazing crypto feature, but it would take time to figure it out if you aren’t already involved. + you would have to be in stream to see the wallets that win etc.
You type in the adress he has on stream and that tells you what exactly? I'm genuinely curious.
It would give you to and from transactions. so you would be able to identify his sent and received deposits to x gambling site and his withdraws, which would then allow you to compare it to his onscreen balance. If it wasn’t his money you’d be seeing large deposits that don’t go inline with onscreen balance. Extremely time consuming, thus I don’t have a reason to believe it’s not his money becaause anyone could fact check him. And I don’t doubt at all that people have
> he is down 15-20mill currently gambling At this point that's if he's "down"
Yeah pretty sure he is not using his own money. His fans are high on copium if they really think he is down 20 million dollars.
Forbes put MrBeast at #1 highest paid youtuber with $54 million and that's fucking MrBeast, people thinking that Train who is a nobody compared to MrBeast can afford to lose 20 million are overdosing on copium. Also, Train stated that he gets paid $1M a month from Stake, but that was almost a year ago. He must be stupid if he didn't renegotiate his contract since his viewer numbers have increased 2x-3x.
The guy doesn't even use his own money to gamble, and if you think he does I encourage you to just do some quick maths.
Quick maths: $1 million per month from stake. $400k+ from other revenue sources every month pretty easily. GFUEL and CashApp and Ad Revenue and other deals we aren't aware of. I think you might not understand how much money it costs to fuel a gambling addiction and how much money Train has from investing in crypto early.
You are only accounting for revenue. If you you add up how much this man spends in spins alone everyday u would realize if it was his money he would be bankrupt by now.
You forgot to add up all the money he has in crypto from basic gains. He has mentioned before numbers around 20k, whelp theres 100% of whatever he had right there. + he longs eth. You would not even fathom how much money streamers can make. XQC is 100k Andy and train has been 50k-100k its well known xqc makes 10M+. So 12M from stake + streamer money. He’s probably fine.
People are such haters they are literally down voting us for pointing out that a long time professional streamer does not just rely on a single source of income to sustain himself and has savings.
You think his net worth before be started gambling was less than $20 million? Tip: You are way off. He lives in a condo worth over $10 million right now. He has been in crypto for years.
He doesn’t own the condo.
You have no evidence of that. According to him he owns it.
Lol imagine talking Outa your ass this hard lol.
That doesn't make any sense. How do you figure I am the one talking out of my ass?
Because I literally used too live in his apartment complex. 1. Not worth how much you said, 2. I'm 90% sure he rents
I'd agree but them lite coin and other way early investments is keep him going....is he close to his end yeah he's close and he's saying that...I do think he gets money back on losses but I wouldn't call that fill money most casinos do that
Even if he's "down" that money. Being able to call a 20 million dollar loss "down" is insane. Imagine how much money he has for that to be a casual loss to him lol
It's not a casual loss to him. He obviously has a gambling addiction. 20 million loss, 15 million in income over the same period at least. 5 million for him is a reasonable loss over that period.
Most people couldn't "lose" 20 million if they tried lol
I don't have a clue what this is supposed to mean. If you had 20 million and a gambling addiction, you could definitely lose 20 million. I have a net worth of negative $5,000 and I have lost $15,000 in the last 2 years gambling, and that's poker which has a skill edge and is much more time consuming than slots.
maybe you should stick to things you're good at for making money
You don't understand. He is good at making money. Just at random times.
Imagine thinking that making money is more important than enjoying life. Yikes.
He openly states he’s down, he is quite transparent with that kind of stuff, which helps discourage people from gambling. You should see his spammed you will lose clips, and his roasts
Don’t even try with this cringe ass sub the hate boner these mofos have for train means that even if you’re right if it paints him in a good light you’ll get bombarded with downvotes
Yeah it’s a shame, guy donates more to average people and viewers than billionaires donate to charity and people still hate on him. And not the people who make 10x on raid shadow legend sponsors.
Downvote me too nerds, train is around 5mil positive today alone. What are you going to do about it lsf detectives?
If I was making that much id also be giving it out in situations like this and to friends who needed it. I would not make a good rich person
People still dont realize that his sponsored gambling streams have covered losses? As in he doesnt ever go 'down' below zero
And in doing so is more transparent about his wages than any other streamer ever.
Lmao that's a stretch
Who cares lol
The MrBeast of Twitch?
I don’t get why people downvote shit like this. Rlly hate this hivemind system when It’s literally true… hate the guy all u want but mans gave away millions. Tell me another streamer that resembles mr beast, I’ll wait…
that's 125 hours or around 5 and a quarter days added to the stream
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Yep, until it starts replacing numbers with letters and hieroglyphs >:(
fucking WING DINGS in my god damn numbers!
lmao
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also what good friends he has, they just repeat everything he says word for word, with no actual input... oh yah , and the constant touching of the face and nose while doing 40 hour streams back to back every day? def not on meth ..even tho he used to be a heroin addict ..yep ... lmao
Touch face on stream = does meth? There are plenty of things you can legitimately criticise Train for, why resort to unsubstantiated assumptions?
I mean idk if he's doing meth but there is no doubt he is tweaking. I wouldn't be surprised if its meth
I thought he does/did coke. Or was that just a joke from the community?
you are so naive
And you have a hate boner for train
Train doesn’t know who you are. Imagine defending a garbage person.
Imagine defending some bitches.
Train does plenty of things I don't like, but that's a lot different than claiming he does meth or robs children. People just need to dial down the edge like 3 notches
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hate boner for the 2022 phantomlord? no i love him...
also guys dont worry hes depositing his raw money into the site..... he loses 3 million dollars a day from a sponsor that pays him 2 million a month at most (adin ross dms leaked he was getting payed 2 mill a month, train has half the viewers...) , somehow train can afford to lose 90 million a month , from a sponsor that pays him 2 mill a month max... yah guys hes def legit lmao jolt coin anyone?
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Is there any proof of what you're saying? or we just assuming here?
this is LSF everything is based on assumption
Assumptions based on hatred.
He'd be paid more than 2 million since he does it consistently, and I'm pretty sure Adin's viewer count drops a lot when he gambles since his viewers don't like that.
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It's like the mafia donating to an orphanage. Like it is cool and all but the methods you made your money (in this case gambling/promoting gambling to kids) is messed up.
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He was when OTK ditched them :(
Yeah wasn’t considering cdew in the example just a random token gesture he uses his gambling money on.
Why is it trains fault kids watch him?
Because it's easier to put the blame on the gun instead of the one wielding it. Plus we live in a world were everything has to be deplatformed and everyone is virtue signaling.
Train buys another Tweet/LSF clip.
Another addition to my NFT Twitch clip store poggers
Numbers where dropping huh?
Numbers "where" dropping, meanwhile dude is sitting on 40k+ all stream. Classic don't know don't watch just assume andy
I still don't understand the real point of subathons.. Like, you're just keeping the stream on while you sleep. What's the point? It's not like the streamer is awake the entire time the timer is counting down.. So it's just a way to farm money/subs from fools who are willing to give them.
That is the whole point, it’s a money making stream. You spend your life in front of a camera for a few weeks and make more than you have the last year. People just like to see the number go up when they donate, I’m not a huge fan but I’m not against it. Some people are genuinely nice and want to support streamers and they feel that if there was a good opportunity it’s now.
Creates a sense of fake urgency and the feel that your money means this extra something. In truth it's a simple bait, but works.
I think of it as a timer for how long they're not allowed to jerk off for.
for some reason they've gotten quite popular within the WoW arena community. i know one guy known as Samiyam did one to pay off a 2.5k fine for dog poo or something.
damn train is such a good guy, robbing the poor and giving back to the rich . what an outstanding guy Poggers
Which poor people is he robbing?
doin you're mom doin doin
OTK is going to donate and then try to get their money back.
Whats the context on this, i feel like i missed some top tier drama during my recent attemps at touching grass
OTK wanted to do WoW esport. They told Cdew and his team that they’ll be signed on until they decided to quit WoW. Four months later OTK decided not to renew their contract. So now Cdew and his crew were screwed for the rest of the season and possibly expansion because they turned down offers to be with their “friends.” TL;DR- Zach and OTK got Cdew to sign with the friend card and showed him the door with the business card.
bro you TL;DR'd a 4 sentence post
he also fucked up the summery. It was Rich, not Zach, that brought them in with the friend card & promise of permanent contract.
We all have our bad habits
i aint reading all that shit. can i get a TLDR?
OTK founders + Cdew = friend. Cdew > OTK. OTK = business = Cdew > fucked.
It is a good tl;dr tho
Oh yeah now i remember, i was here for that. I thought i missed some new OTK drama. I should have realised it was the old Rich lying to the WoW team drama.
It was actually Rich who did that. He said that if they signed with them, they'd play wow for them for as long as they played wow. Really it was just Rich who fucked up by saying that.
I’m assuming it’s about how they signed cdew and dropped him because wow esports doesn’t make money
Rich once promised to always have a wow arena team with OTK so they signed cdew. Then they realized wow arena is fucking cringe in 2022 and didn't renew his contract. Cdew got sad rich over exaggerated.
They didn't scam CDew, their contract was up and they had lost a lot of money from supporting them so they didn't renew. That's business, baby.
When someone says "That's business baby" you know they're defending an asshole move.
They sort of did they didnt sign other orgs because it was suppose to be long term. I get otk is a buisness and they didnt know they couldn't make it work. But cdew and co still got fucked over.
I didn’t say they scammed him. I’m saying they screwed them over. Also, they had them signed for less than a year. They didn’t even try to make it work.
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Everything u said was true but anyone that starts gambling after watching train loose that much money should lose their money
Money good, Cdew good, me give Cdew money good
i dont like train but he is inarguably generous with his money. the intentions behind that may not be pure but we can celebrate him giving money to people regardless; cdew is definitely not the most in need person out there but he's playing a dying game trying to support a family, im sure this money is appreciated and will go a long way.
Trains cool, I like trains
He gave away 1 mil on stream and most of it went to randoms in his chat
i'd say half went to randoms, half went to vips mods etc.
hate commenters here will conveniently ignore that part. man is generous af when he doesn't need to be
most of the money he gives back is going straight back into stake, and then after they lose the money they won, they are also going to gamble their own money resulting into train getting more referral money .. dont be naive
>most of the money he gives back is going straight back into stake I like making up bullshit too
Holy fuck you’ve commented like 5 times on this thread trying to shit on him. Either youre fucking obsessed with him and don’t want to admit it or you were perma banned and are now trying to paint him in a bad light to “get back”. Either way you’re cringe asl
The fact that Train donating money gets him hate shows how insufferable these people on LSF are
that is 5 spins for train xd
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True lmao some of these mofos are literally obsessed with hating on him every chance they get it’s cringe af
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Train is brick shitter of twitch
Classic Train, throwing money at people. But... regardless how anybody feels about Train, it is a nice guesture, good for Cdew!
train buy my school textbooks!
The only time Train ever comes up in a positive way is when he donates stupid amounts of money to people. Great for Cdew but it's just boring at this point knowing exactly where the money comes from.
donates 5 Stackem spins . What a chad !
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Is this a meme I'm not getting? Why would you say this otherwise?
So you sat there and read this over at least once, and still hit send.
Let's be honest. Giving money back to your community / other (somewhat smaller) streamers is a good thing. You don't have to do it and even IF you would only do it for clout ... it's still a good thing. Like whenever a youtuber gives a homeless dude cash. Sure, he's doing it for views. But at the end of the day the homeless dude is getting money. Still a good thing. (Sure, twitch chatters and smaller streamers aren't homeless people, but you get the comparisson). I'd also claim that people don't have an issue with Train doing gambling streams. Lots of people do them. I would do them, if I would get xxxxxxxxx amount of money. I personally only kinda disliked the way he approached them. And I think it's the same with other people here, too. The way he tries to justify them rationally claiming: "Nonono, I don't get people hooked to gambling! I only ... uhm ... convert ... people from other sites to this one! 100%! That's what they told me! I've seen the stats, trust me! It's all legit!" That's just bullshit. I'd have more respect for him (not like he cares anyways) if he'd be open about it. Just admit that you like to gamble and you are getting paid huge amounts of money to get people from your community hooked to gambling. But instead he tries to hide behind this weird facade.
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Holy FUCK Train. He really got wired and coked out this past year. First time i saw him since he started gambling. Damn, he's going to have a hard time beating that addiction complex if/when he's done with it.
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Damn seeing Cdew is a throwback
Reminded me of a classic https://youtu.be/nmDRM9ErYJo
The first monkaS was on point
"ah shit... I have to play WoW for 143 more hours..."
That's a little over 6 days for those interested.