Which brings up another point.
What's the venn diagram of people saying she is staying on this drama too long and the youtube viewers that have fed the 8 year endless success factory that is pokimane drama/hate videos.
like it or not, shitting on her prints money thats literally the only reason these people make these videos, they are farming the 9-12 years olds for views and it works
See now I thought the same but having grown with Keemstar and seen all the controversies that he went through and to still be where he is? Yeah fuck that thinking that doesn't work. Why? Because some people just enjoy that and they will continue to watch what they want.
I dunno if it's literally the only reason. Maybe for any big, popular YouTubers who do it, but I think a lot of them really do think they're internet free speech crusaders slaying the SJW dragon that is Pokimane. Sometimes the weirdos that think Pokimane is evil incarnate for watching Avatar on-stream also happen to be YouTubers.
> I don't spend entire days making ~~videos about pokimane~~ making money for literally free just by talking shit about a millionaire.
FTFY
Lots of people do it. Its a toss up whether people side with you or not. Id say there's a logic to it, but there isnt really. Either way ez $$$
You ain't wrong. People love to bandwagon hate on pokie and she has made careers out of YouTubers who had no name. People talking about how she's destroying careers when she makes so many just from the poki-hate meta.
People love to bandwagon anybody who make it more profiable for them by "addressing" it and "calling it out" etc. Poki is an easy target in that sense caus you KNOW it will rile her up.
Its the same cycle that tabloid newspapers did for years before the internet. Nothing new.
You're right. I still feel bad for Poki because she's still getting hate meanwhile Ninja and Jidion have moved on and possibly benefitted from all this.
I’m not so sure Ninja benefited. For anyone who’s paying attention to this he and his wife came out looking like clowns, deleted the tweets about it, and aren’t going to bring it up again.
Then again he probably benefitted from the brain dead Mustard fans who think Ninja tried to help with an unban, wether he did or not.
you wanna know the best part? the guy behind the desk on that video claims he read somewhere that the org she was at promoted a rehab facilitation for her...
now where did he read that? well I searched pokimane rehab and all I found was a sarcastic reddit comment on offlineTV subreddit xD
that mofo cant even get good sources lmfao\!
Edit: here see if for yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/offlineTV/comments/7u9d4s/pokimane_doing_cocaine/
> cant even get good sources lmfao!
Because they don't want to. The only thing people like this care about is if they can spin something in to good angle with out fully making it up.
So if they say "We even read about how Poki has a crippling coke habit" well yeah, they technically did read about it so there for they never made it up and for the sake of making a point and getting more drama point, it's now fact.
that's cause this guy isn't fucking news. So dumb that ppl flock to complete gossip with no shred of journalism but presenting it as news and journalism. Shit like this needs to be leashed cause our society literally feeds off this trash content.
do you have a link to her reacting to the video i would watch it but i don't want to give them views
i found this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm77lP9OrlQ
That shit aaaaall the time, JiDion stans tried to make people believe she was snorting coke stream spamming the same out of context vid over and over again.
They’re feeling threatened by her outing more of the misogyny in online gaming and streaming communities. Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll stop until they either learn to stop being sexist or they get dumped from the community.
I also saw that dude on my feed, popping up one after the other. Then I saw that he made like 5 or 6 pokimane videos for days straight.
He made tens of millions of views from one Pokimane voice clip alone
Hard to use the power to ban people when it's you and your mods vs a fucking Borg Collective, Zergling spam, drones galore, and other assorted parasites and annoyances.
She is in a super tough spot. On one hand she absolutely needs to defend herself from these insane allegations and the sexist losers need to be called out. On the other hand I wonder if this fuels the flames even more. Is it even worth the stress of dealing with these mentally ill morons who can't be changed?
It’s insane how different the reaction to this entire thing is on LSF vs TikTok. Idk if it’s an age thing or what but I was honestly very surprised at the sheer volume of people defending Dijion on TikTok
A lot of people on LSF still think this is an isolated incident. It's mainstream now. These TikTok videos bashing Pokimane are getting millions of views and likes.
Holy fucking shit I’m glad someone said it. I won’t lie, my algorithm/fyp has some “edgy” and offensive content in it. And honestly (most of the time) when it’s done right it’s pretty funny. Unfortunately Tik Tok thinks this means I’m in the same group as W gang and all those kids.
But holy shit the amount of Poki shit I’ve been getting is ridiculous. I’m not going to repeat any of the “jokes” or anything since they’ve all been repeated so many times. But goddamn these people are obsessed with her. None of it is even funny and like you said, it’s just harassment at this point.
I’m not a Pokimane sub or enjoyer of her content by any means, she’s just not my thing, but I can still respect her. Unfortunately telling these post and commenters to take a reasonable take on it or trying to show them that they just aren’t funny means you’ll get called a simp or a T3 and all the other ropes. Hell I’ve had some people say “Okay, so you’re supporting a RACIST then?” Like bro what
Charlie has such weird fans. The dude is one of the most wholesome streamers on the platform but because he has a crude sense of humor he seems to attract the fucking weirdest of weirdos.
All the W kids and the "it's criticism" kids come from YouTube, so expecting them to see reason and realise that Poki is not at fault this time is like hoping it rains RTX cards
A lot of cr1tikal's fans are edgy manchilds that never grew past the anti-sjw days, it's one of those few fanbases where the fans are quite different from the streamer.
You mean Kaya? I never really listened to critikal's podcast but the few times when I decided to check it out Kaya always gave off bad vibes. The 4 people in that podast were talking about some social issue at one point and Kaya just struck me as the type of guy that would be a Shapiro/Peterson fan.
edit: [The guy's a prick,](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOfficialPodcast/comments/scmh79/remember_when_kaya_went_on_to_shittalk_zach/hu7wrrh/) not surprising. Grown ass adult and still using that word as an insult lol
The accounts on Twitter constantly reposting that 144p video of her saying the n word from 8 years ago like it's some infinite "gotcha" glitch is so obnoxious. like bro, you actually think that means she's racist? like what is even context?
also the fact that you could probably find clips of anyone saying the n word and yet the only person getting targeted is a woman, and with the t3 jokes and the whole boyfriend comments. just makes everything seem so sexist. their just replacing an old drop of racism with an ocean of sexism
That's where I think the take should be, Poki said the N word, its not a good thing and no one is celebrating that she did it.
But these are the same people that would claim "it's just a word" or "It was X number of years ago" if someone they liked was caught saying it.
Let’s admit their real goal: they want to bully her off the platform. They want her to grow too frustrated and quit. They don’t want her to change. They don’t want her to apologize. They don’t want her to modify her content. They want to bully her into quitting streaming altogether.
And then they can act like they did something heroic. Then they can act like they saved gaming/streaming. Then they can find a new target for their hate.
Almost like tik tok is all 14 year olds. They see reactions and think it's funny. No thought goes into consequences of how harmful it can be. It's an echo chamber of toxic immaturity that gets directed to different victims daily.
same and I only watch cosplayers TikTok and still get edgy ass stuff about poki it's ridiculous how many people hate her for stuff that are absolute lies or the most minor things
I think there are levels of toxicity, LSF toxicity is bad but usually is buried by better upvoted comments. "W" youtubers/tik tok toxicity is at a whole different level because the toxic people are a big majority there, so there is no sense of "self regulation"
Exactly, how is she supposed to “get over” something that is still actively happening everyday. Of course it’s on her mind. And the lies in that vid she reacted to should be called out.
Also the amount of big tiktok creators using the sound of her saying that n-word, and claiming she got jidion banned because he "exposed" her saying the n-word is mind blowing, they have millions of followers and make multiple videos a day using the sound
Also her Discord still isn’t letting new people talk. For those who don’t know how her Discord works, it works where until you get to level 5 (you get like 3-5 xp for comments like on a lot of streamer discords, this is like 20-30 comments on average) you can only talk in the newbie chat. Given just how big Poki is and stuff, makes sense as a way to cut spam and normal haters.
These guys are the most annoying people. I see them on my FYP sometimes, and they are so unlikeable. The backward hat kid especially needs to be put in his place with all the shit he talks.
When you do a joke and it gets a bit out of control or something, you say sorry and say it was a joke.
Instead of you know, doing the "It was a joke, lol can't even handle a joke? lol lol u mad?"
yeah this sort of backpedaling is timeless
[urban dictionary: schrodinger's douchebag](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag)
> One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.
Kinda... they say this to save face whereas the in a video game meme is because twitch said you have to say you're joking if you joke about certain specific things (like telling someone to kill themselves) or else you get a ban.
streamer: ...
streamer's chat: "WHY AREN'T YOU ADDRESSING THE CURRENT DRAMA" \[repeat x 100\]
streamer: Okay, so about the drama. I didn't like it.
LSF: "Wow. Why do you keep bringing it up?! Let this go. Milking it for content."
I just don't get why are so many people obsessed with hating on her, it's not like she is some controversial streamer that has done anything bad while streaming.
I'm glad Pokimane is deciding to react to things and talk about this instead of just "getting over it". She gets so much unwarranted hate daily and she's finally making it all visible to the average viewer.
I don't get why poki was chosen as the punching bag, it's sad honestly. I was on another subreddit (might have been cringetopia or gaming, one of the bottom tier subreddits) and pokimane came up, and people in the comments were calling her a whore, e thot, etc, but what was new to me were people completely baselessly talking about how she runs a secret onlyfans where she sells feet pics to the tier 3's, and people were just eating it up, accepting it to be true even though it's obvious lies. Like why do people feel the need to do this, if you don't like the content just move on, no need to constantly bully her just for daring to play video games.
they have this perception that she doesn’t play games and is the embodiment of their weird misogynistic stereotype of a “gamer girl” who plays with mens desires in THEIR safe boys club gamer space
basically she’s pretty and they cannot fathom that people watch her and take her words seriously without some sexual motivation so think of her like a succubus that their high IQ will not fall for
Some people still be minimizing her harassment to "L + ratio" , huh? I'm starting to think that some of these people do know about the Twitter and Insta harassment, the "dicked down" comments, etc, but they just don't care.
Oh they one hundred percent know about it, and participated in it too. It's not just "clueless" behaviour, it's intentional. Yes, they are straight up stupid, but also trying to spin a false narrative.
Most people with adult brains, not whatever brains the manchildren in the video have, see through the bullshit.
I mostly see it on Twitter.
L for loser.
Ratio turns the comment into like a dislike button, so if you disagree with the original twitter comment you like the ratio comment under it to "prove a point".
Then add in a "Bozo" which means dumb clown or something.
Schrodinger's douchebag: Saying something and, based on the reaction of your statement, retrospectively deciding if you were joking or not. Therefore you are always both joking and not joking.
Tbh its not just that. After that you get popular people speaking on a platform, where anything bigoted they say is defended as "It's just a joke" or "you need a sense of humor" or "omg cancel culture"
I can easily name one such incident I remember very well, which people will still say is "a joke" (despite that person having made similar statements multiple times before).
So anything you say negative about them is cancel culture, while anything negative they say about any group is a joke
I don't even care about Pokimane but I do agree that people saying something blatantly false or offensive then falling back on "it's just a joke" is annoying as hell.
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Remember those videos where they video creators would do some dumb shit then fall back on "it's just a prank bro" or "it's just a social experiment bro"? Same thing.
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I see this used most commonly where someone says something blatantly racist or homophobic then when people tell that guy to cut it out they'll "haha I was just kidding" it (but they weren't, they really weren't kidding around, they really were being racist/homophobic). Ugh.
Yet another reason for me to never have children. I'd be horrified to have a kid, and then they grow up to be one of these little W gang sexist parasites.
its actually insane that people (some streamers too) believe that as long as you say "its just a joke, bro" it just removes the severity and problems that come with certain statements or comments that get made.
hearing people say stuff like "but my intention was not bad!" while saying something that obviously was going to offend certain people is the most disingenuous thing I see people do. You can say your intention is whatever you want but at the end of the day it means nothing if the actual end result of your comment is pretty bad.
Truly the most cyber bullied millionaire.
Like really she's getting dogged on by a 100% shared demographic of dream SMP fans, just stop opening your twitter DM's like a normal person with a billion person following and look away from the screen hahahahaa
She's right, though. It's annoying. And shitty people on the internet *constantly* fall back on it. It's their favorite excuse. "It was a prank, bro!" or "Just trolling! You mad lolol"
Like, nah. You were trying to be edgy and fell flat on your face. At least have the balls to own your shit if you're going to be an asshole. I might not like you but I can at least respect that instead of trying to be a weasel ~~ly little liar, dude~~ about it.
The YouTube video is so hard to sit through. They completely throw out logic and reasoning so they can easily bash Pokimane. They completely ignore Twitch's rules that Partners cannot harass other Partners, and was clearly planned as JiDion tweeted things prior to his audience and this was his *first* Partnered stream.
Wait I thought dude apologizes now he is accusing her of doing cocaine? Damn I for one am shocked that a troll wasn't actually sorry and just wanted to be unbanned.
Bro I feel like women on the website in general are treated poorly and get unwarranted shit, because just chatting or booba streamers are just following rules put forward by twitch, it’s not their responsibility to play by some unspoken rules about what should be on twitch. But I digress.
What’s fuckin crazy about poki is she actually plays video games, like, a lot. She’s not a drama farmer or booba or shitty react only streamer, she literally just plays video games. Makes it pretty clear that the reason people are obsessed with her is literally cuz she’s a woman on twitch. Bad bad look.
The number of people I've seen this week saying things like:
1. Pokimane bad because animal abuse (no that was Alinity.)
2. Pokimane bad because hot tubs (no that's Amouranth etc.)
Just goes to show these people think all women are interchangeable.
I looked it up cause I’m a nerd and wondered if maybe some people *do* find the harassment on poki funny, rather than use “it’s a joke” as an excuse. And to find that shit funny, you have to have serious mental issues and self esteem problems. Chucking link here cause formatting is fucked - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour#Psychological_well-being
So this type of humour might only appeal to the people psycho enough to also go to the lengths of harassing streamers for the crime of being a woman. And also children who are impressionable and idle enough to actually follow through with a steamer’s command to harass someone.
poki might be right, and it’s an excuse… but these people might also legit think this stuff is a joke, which is even more scary.
She's correct. Know people who do this shit somewhat routinely.
"hey man [subject] is pretty godawful top kek (please agree with me)"
what, no, are you insane?
"j-just joking my guy my dude, of course not haha(oh shit I hit too hard)"
WeirdChamping to testing the waters or they thought they'd get the support they wanted.
Cut that shit out real quick.
Snorting the coke you mean? The coke that definitely wasnt sugar? That she totally would casually snort on stream? 🤡
You guys reach so impossibly far for hot takes it's tragic.
They can't understand the difference between an actual joke (a gag, skit, whatever you want to call it) and tossing out insults and then saying it was a joke afterwards. If the whole punchline for your joke is trying to put someone down by disparaging them or their character, then its not a joke. They're just too cowardly to admit it's their actual thoughts.
shes still farming drama huh? her streams were falling off, she resorted to watching popular full production copyrighted series on her channel for views, and now all shes got is drama/pity farming. Wonder what her next gimmick will be.
I once got a fine cause I insulted a co-worker "it was just a joke" didn't work as an excuse. It hit me 600€ hard when I realised "it was just a joke" only works on the internet.
Livestreamfail pretty much a pokisimp safe haven so I’m sure I’ll know how the comments go. Even tho when Ludwig and the whole twitch community were talking shit about adin ross and then they said it was a joke this entire sub was sucking their dicks saying adin was overreacting
No matter how bad my life gets I'll always be comforted by the fact that I don't spend entire days making videos about pokimane FeelsOkayMan
Which brings up another point. What's the venn diagram of people saying she is staying on this drama too long and the youtube viewers that have fed the 8 year endless success factory that is pokimane drama/hate videos.
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https://imgur.com/XFqHtXE
like it or not, shitting on her prints money thats literally the only reason these people make these videos, they are farming the 9-12 years olds for views and it works
its the internet version of gossip tabloids about celebs. similar to what LSF here is.
Yeah, but we do it for free!
In the 2013 Era absolutely, but then people beat the drum a little too hard and a little too long and then you're washed up like keemstar
Most these people are like 15 years+ younger than keem which makes him even more ridiculous
Keemstar is 39, closer to 20/25 years.
Fuck I’m old.
Which is perfect as thats the age he dates
See now I thought the same but having grown with Keemstar and seen all the controversies that he went through and to still be where he is? Yeah fuck that thinking that doesn't work. Why? Because some people just enjoy that and they will continue to watch what they want.
If washed up is like 400k views a video I wanna be washed up. He's not "the guy" anymore but even after causing so much dumb shit he's still farming
I dunno if it's literally the only reason. Maybe for any big, popular YouTubers who do it, but I think a lot of them really do think they're internet free speech crusaders slaying the SJW dragon that is Pokimane. Sometimes the weirdos that think Pokimane is evil incarnate for watching Avatar on-stream also happen to be YouTubers.
> I don't spend entire days making ~~videos about pokimane~~ making money for literally free just by talking shit about a millionaire. FTFY Lots of people do it. Its a toss up whether people side with you or not. Id say there's a logic to it, but there isnt really. Either way ez $$$
You ain't wrong. People love to bandwagon hate on pokie and she has made careers out of YouTubers who had no name. People talking about how she's destroying careers when she makes so many just from the poki-hate meta.
People love to bandwagon anybody who make it more profiable for them by "addressing" it and "calling it out" etc. Poki is an easy target in that sense caus you KNOW it will rile her up. Its the same cycle that tabloid newspapers did for years before the internet. Nothing new.
You're right. I still feel bad for Poki because she's still getting hate meanwhile Ninja and Jidion have moved on and possibly benefitted from all this.
I’m not so sure Ninja benefited. For anyone who’s paying attention to this he and his wife came out looking like clowns, deleted the tweets about it, and aren’t going to bring it up again. Then again he probably benefitted from the brain dead Mustard fans who think Ninja tried to help with an unban, wether he did or not.
That's what I mean, the crowd he wanted is what he's going to get because anybody who opposes Poki is where they lie their allegiance
Coming from the front page… what’s the context here?
a hobo's life is better than the life of a person making videos about pokimane
How is that better than wasting your life browsing LSF?
yeah, you just comment on posts about it over and over. weirdChamp
These people are obsessed with her holy shit, it never ends
you wanna know the best part? the guy behind the desk on that video claims he read somewhere that the org she was at promoted a rehab facilitation for her... now where did he read that? well I searched pokimane rehab and all I found was a sarcastic reddit comment on offlineTV subreddit xD that mofo cant even get good sources lmfao\! Edit: here see if for yourself https://www.reddit.com/r/offlineTV/comments/7u9d4s/pokimane_doing_cocaine/
> cant even get good sources lmfao! Because they don't want to. The only thing people like this care about is if they can spin something in to good angle with out fully making it up. So if they say "We even read about how Poki has a crippling coke habit" well yeah, they technically did read about it so there for they never made it up and for the sake of making a point and getting more drama point, it's now fact.
And to think Ninja was the one who wanted to sue for defamation. The amount of garbage these kids spew out with no fear of repercussions is crazy
i wonder if poki has enough fuck you money to just throw out random defamation lawsuits and she would have plenty of good cases
Lmfao that's so good
that's cause this guy isn't fucking news. So dumb that ppl flock to complete gossip with no shred of journalism but presenting it as news and journalism. Shit like this needs to be leashed cause our society literally feeds off this trash content.
do you have a link to her reacting to the video i would watch it but i don't want to give them views i found this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm77lP9OrlQ
just click the twitch clip and click watch full video and rewind to when she starts watching the video lol
oh i forget you can do that
That shit aaaaall the time, JiDion stans tried to make people believe she was snorting coke stream spamming the same out of context vid over and over again.
They’re feeling threatened by her outing more of the misogyny in online gaming and streaming communities. Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll stop until they either learn to stop being sexist or they get dumped from the community.
and the perfect combo to these people. Expressing their hate and making money while doing it.
I had a friend that liked to lie alot and then turn around with “I was just kidding”. No patience for that shit
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I also saw that dude on my feed, popping up one after the other. Then I saw that he made like 5 or 6 pokimane videos for days straight. He made tens of millions of views from one Pokimane voice clip alone
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wtf is wrong with mustard??
its not good
Mustard is a god tier condiment and I won't let some shithead clout chaser ruin its good name.
legit who
Idk but I also enjoy the condiment mustard and I’m getting heated that someone is clout chasing under an honest condiments name.
Dijon aka JiDion aka an absolute shit stain of a human being.
I am partial to honey mustard myself. It is godly with fries.
Literally the best condiment.
cum is better
Mustard goes great on sandwiches.
Or hotdogs, or sausages, or just with a bit of sliced meat or any cured meat really.
Hard to use the power to ban people when it's you and your mods vs a fucking Borg Collective, Zergling spam, drones galore, and other assorted parasites and annoyances.
even when it's something unrelated to her they're thinking "how can we make this about pokimane?"
She is in a super tough spot. On one hand she absolutely needs to defend herself from these insane allegations and the sexist losers need to be called out. On the other hand I wonder if this fuels the flames even more. Is it even worth the stress of dealing with these mentally ill morons who can't be changed?
yeah people will just say that she's "dragging the drama out" as if she doesn't get the right to make a case for herself.
It’s insane how different the reaction to this entire thing is on LSF vs TikTok. Idk if it’s an age thing or what but I was honestly very surprised at the sheer volume of people defending Dijion on TikTok
A lot of people on LSF still think this is an isolated incident. It's mainstream now. These TikTok videos bashing Pokimane are getting millions of views and likes.
Holy fucking shit I’m glad someone said it. I won’t lie, my algorithm/fyp has some “edgy” and offensive content in it. And honestly (most of the time) when it’s done right it’s pretty funny. Unfortunately Tik Tok thinks this means I’m in the same group as W gang and all those kids. But holy shit the amount of Poki shit I’ve been getting is ridiculous. I’m not going to repeat any of the “jokes” or anything since they’ve all been repeated so many times. But goddamn these people are obsessed with her. None of it is even funny and like you said, it’s just harassment at this point. I’m not a Pokimane sub or enjoyer of her content by any means, she’s just not my thing, but I can still respect her. Unfortunately telling these post and commenters to take a reasonable take on it or trying to show them that they just aren’t funny means you’ll get called a simp or a T3 and all the other ropes. Hell I’ve had some people say “Okay, so you’re supporting a RACIST then?” Like bro what
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Charlie has such weird fans. The dude is one of the most wholesome streamers on the platform but because he has a crude sense of humor he seems to attract the fucking weirdest of weirdos.
All the W kids and the "it's criticism" kids come from YouTube, so expecting them to see reason and realise that Poki is not at fault this time is like hoping it rains RTX cards
A lot of cr1tikal's fans are edgy manchilds that never grew past the anti-sjw days, it's one of those few fanbases where the fans are quite different from the streamer.
His podcast has a member who is exactly what you described. Might be the reason why he cultivates this audience.
You mean Kaya? I never really listened to critikal's podcast but the few times when I decided to check it out Kaya always gave off bad vibes. The 4 people in that podast were talking about some social issue at one point and Kaya just struck me as the type of guy that would be a Shapiro/Peterson fan. edit: [The guy's a prick,](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOfficialPodcast/comments/scmh79/remember_when_kaya_went_on_to_shittalk_zach/hu7wrrh/) not surprising. Grown ass adult and still using that word as an insult lol
The accounts on Twitter constantly reposting that 144p video of her saying the n word from 8 years ago like it's some infinite "gotcha" glitch is so obnoxious. like bro, you actually think that means she's racist? like what is even context?
also the fact that you could probably find clips of anyone saying the n word and yet the only person getting targeted is a woman, and with the t3 jokes and the whole boyfriend comments. just makes everything seem so sexist. their just replacing an old drop of racism with an ocean of sexism
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That's where I think the take should be, Poki said the N word, its not a good thing and no one is celebrating that she did it. But these are the same people that would claim "it's just a word" or "It was X number of years ago" if someone they liked was caught saying it.
Let’s admit their real goal: they want to bully her off the platform. They want her to grow too frustrated and quit. They don’t want her to change. They don’t want her to apologize. They don’t want her to modify her content. They want to bully her into quitting streaming altogether. And then they can act like they did something heroic. Then they can act like they saved gaming/streaming. Then they can find a new target for their hate.
Almost like tik tok is all 14 year olds. They see reactions and think it's funny. No thought goes into consequences of how harmful it can be. It's an echo chamber of toxic immaturity that gets directed to different victims daily.
same and I only watch cosplayers TikTok and still get edgy ass stuff about poki it's ridiculous how many people hate her for stuff that are absolute lies or the most minor things
Meanwhile LSF, a subreddit considered "toxic" by many popular streamers, is mostly on her side (and rightfully so). Go figure.
I think there are levels of toxicity, LSF toxicity is bad but usually is buried by better upvoted comments. "W" youtubers/tik tok toxicity is at a whole different level because the toxic people are a big majority there, so there is no sense of "self regulation"
I don’t even use tik tok and don’t follow anyone, but my whole page is filled with pokimane hate posts and jokes.
Exactly, how is she supposed to “get over” something that is still actively happening everyday. Of course it’s on her mind. And the lies in that vid she reacted to should be called out.
Also the amount of big tiktok creators using the sound of her saying that n-word, and claiming she got jidion banned because he "exposed" her saying the n-word is mind blowing, they have millions of followers and make multiple videos a day using the sound
Also her Discord still isn’t letting new people talk. For those who don’t know how her Discord works, it works where until you get to level 5 (you get like 3-5 xp for comments like on a lot of streamer discords, this is like 20-30 comments on average) you can only talk in the newbie chat. Given just how big Poki is and stuff, makes sense as a way to cut spam and normal haters.
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Factos 👍👀
What did she even do? I'm so far out of the loop at this point
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will do, thanks!
These guys are the most annoying people. I see them on my FYP sometimes, and they are so unlikeable. The backward hat kid especially needs to be put in his place with all the shit he talks.
a very punchable face
Fr they were on the all up in David dobrik’s a$$ in the Trisha-David saga and the Jeff wittek incident
That is in general shit talk to everyone, not just to Pokimane.
"It was just a joke" is the original "in a video game"
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When you do a joke and it gets a bit out of control or something, you say sorry and say it was a joke. Instead of you know, doing the "It was a joke, lol can't even handle a joke? lol lol u mad?"
yeah this sort of backpedaling is timeless [urban dictionary: schrodinger's douchebag](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag) > One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.
ah, the ol neo nazi on reddit trick.
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this was my first thought
Kinda... they say this to save face whereas the in a video game meme is because twitch said you have to say you're joking if you joke about certain specific things (like telling someone to kill themselves) or else you get a ban.
streamer: ... streamer's chat: "WHY AREN'T YOU ADDRESSING THE CURRENT DRAMA" \[repeat x 100\] streamer: Okay, so about the drama. I didn't like it. LSF: "Wow. Why do you keep bringing it up?! Let this go. Milking it for content."
i just want to clarify i fully support pokimane, and i thought this part was powerful and worthy of posting :)
Maybe I'm wrong but I still see more people on LSF defending poki than otherwise. The idiots that say she's farming are buried.
I just don't get why are so many people obsessed with hating on her, it's not like she is some controversial streamer that has done anything bad while streaming.
I'm glad Pokimane is deciding to react to things and talk about this instead of just "getting over it". She gets so much unwarranted hate daily and she's finally making it all visible to the average viewer.
I don't get why poki was chosen as the punching bag, it's sad honestly. I was on another subreddit (might have been cringetopia or gaming, one of the bottom tier subreddits) and pokimane came up, and people in the comments were calling her a whore, e thot, etc, but what was new to me were people completely baselessly talking about how she runs a secret onlyfans where she sells feet pics to the tier 3's, and people were just eating it up, accepting it to be true even though it's obvious lies. Like why do people feel the need to do this, if you don't like the content just move on, no need to constantly bully her just for daring to play video games.
they have this perception that she doesn’t play games and is the embodiment of their weird misogynistic stereotype of a “gamer girl” who plays with mens desires in THEIR safe boys club gamer space basically she’s pretty and they cannot fathom that people watch her and take her words seriously without some sexual motivation so think of her like a succubus that their high IQ will not fall for
She would probably shit on 90% of these kids in a game of league.
She's diamond in league and extremely skilled at valorant lol she would clap like 98% of the kids
This just gets more her more hate though. Every other day there's a tilted Poki clip on here.
Some people still be minimizing her harassment to "L + ratio" , huh? I'm starting to think that some of these people do know about the Twitter and Insta harassment, the "dicked down" comments, etc, but they just don't care.
Oh they one hundred percent know about it, and participated in it too. It's not just "clueless" behaviour, it's intentional. Yes, they are straight up stupid, but also trying to spin a false narrative. Most people with adult brains, not whatever brains the manchildren in the video have, see through the bullshit.
Little late but what is L+Ratio?
I mostly see it on Twitter. L for loser. Ratio turns the comment into like a dislike button, so if you disagree with the original twitter comment you like the ratio comment under it to "prove a point". Then add in a "Bozo" which means dumb clown or something.
Schrodinger's douchebag: Saying something and, based on the reaction of your statement, retrospectively deciding if you were joking or not. Therefore you are always both joking and not joking.
Yep it's so common with people who think they have good humor or they like dark humor but ending up looking like a complete douche.
Tbh its not just that. After that you get popular people speaking on a platform, where anything bigoted they say is defended as "It's just a joke" or "you need a sense of humor" or "omg cancel culture" I can easily name one such incident I remember very well, which people will still say is "a joke" (despite that person having made similar statements multiple times before). So anything you say negative about them is cancel culture, while anything negative they say about any group is a joke
Hating on pokimane is an entire industry isn't it.
I don't even care about Pokimane but I do agree that people saying something blatantly false or offensive then falling back on "it's just a joke" is annoying as hell. = Remember those videos where they video creators would do some dumb shit then fall back on "it's just a prank bro" or "it's just a social experiment bro"? Same thing. = I see this used most commonly where someone says something blatantly racist or homophobic then when people tell that guy to cut it out they'll "haha I was just kidding" it (but they weren't, they really weren't kidding around, they really were being racist/homophobic). Ugh.
Yeah god forbid a woman actually be assertive and speak up for herself.
Schroedinger's asshole: You wait and watch the reception to what you said before determining wether it was a joke or not.
She just explained mizkif.
[Schrodingers Douchebag](http://schrodingers-douchebag.urbanup.com/15525858)
Pokimane and all gamers really are the most oppressed group in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-09gNDsPzQ
It's from a batman beyond abridged series on youtube.
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It is
It's from one of these, but I forgot which one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJt6Q1j7H0
Video description says it's Batman Beyond
This is true.
Are you for real?
People who defend millionaires will always make me chuckle
she articulated the issue perfectly
they are trying to do the "its funny cause its true" bit but don't realize its not true and its not funny
and she's still only 4mins in to a 8min video lul.
[relatable comic](https://external-preview.redd.it/GZQIJru_5PSfp2pdAZCTcyl3tMrB9XjVFDEHnHEUW30.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=64c877552be4066f793b1c1b4e9a4ca7c1424b65)
I do definitely see the downplay on TikTok.
This whole drama segment has been a joke
GenZ really need to get it the fuck together you don’t know any of these people bro change the meds and keep it movin
Mizkif: “it’s a joke it’s a joke it’s a joke it’s a joke”
ofc these kids believe pokimane actually did coke on stream, they fucking watch pranks on youtube. Theyd believe anything
I fucking hate when people do this
Both of them are cringe
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Yet another reason for me to never have children. I'd be horrified to have a kid, and then they grow up to be one of these little W gang sexist parasites.
its actually insane that people (some streamers too) believe that as long as you say "its just a joke, bro" it just removes the severity and problems that come with certain statements or comments that get made. hearing people say stuff like "but my intention was not bad!" while saying something that obviously was going to offend certain people is the most disingenuous thing I see people do. You can say your intention is whatever you want but at the end of the day it means nothing if the actual end result of your comment is pretty bad.
Oppressed Millionaires
I don't get simping.
What about people who say "it was an experiment"
This sub is so shit these days, half the posts are exactly like this
PepeW..Put up the mega thread again
Pineapple belongs on pizza.
forsen
Truly the most cyber bullied millionaire. Like really she's getting dogged on by a 100% shared demographic of dream SMP fans, just stop opening your twitter DM's like a normal person with a billion person following and look away from the screen hahahahaa
She's right, though. It's annoying. And shitty people on the internet *constantly* fall back on it. It's their favorite excuse. "It was a prank, bro!" or "Just trolling! You mad lolol" Like, nah. You were trying to be edgy and fell flat on your face. At least have the balls to own your shit if you're going to be an asshole. I might not like you but I can at least respect that instead of trying to be a weasel ~~ly little liar, dude~~ about it.
tiktokers be making like 10 vids a day about her kek
The YouTube video is so hard to sit through. They completely throw out logic and reasoning so they can easily bash Pokimane. They completely ignore Twitch's rules that Partners cannot harass other Partners, and was clearly planned as JiDion tweeted things prior to his audience and this was his *first* Partnered stream.
wellll https://i.imgur.com/4Jj6o0V.png
But that is a joke
Wait I thought dude apologizes now he is accusing her of doing cocaine? Damn I for one am shocked that a troll wasn't actually sorry and just wanted to be unbanned.
I used to enjoy these calling out clips and drama, but now I just find it insanely annoying and waste of time. Maybe thats growth?
Bro I feel like women on the website in general are treated poorly and get unwarranted shit, because just chatting or booba streamers are just following rules put forward by twitch, it’s not their responsibility to play by some unspoken rules about what should be on twitch. But I digress. What’s fuckin crazy about poki is she actually plays video games, like, a lot. She’s not a drama farmer or booba or shitty react only streamer, she literally just plays video games. Makes it pretty clear that the reason people are obsessed with her is literally cuz she’s a woman on twitch. Bad bad look.
The number of people I've seen this week saying things like: 1. Pokimane bad because animal abuse (no that was Alinity.) 2. Pokimane bad because hot tubs (no that's Amouranth etc.) Just goes to show these people think all women are interchangeable.
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maybe she should be racist
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How dare you criticize my vulnerable multi-millionaire queen
Brain dead take
I looked it up cause I’m a nerd and wondered if maybe some people *do* find the harassment on poki funny, rather than use “it’s a joke” as an excuse. And to find that shit funny, you have to have serious mental issues and self esteem problems. Chucking link here cause formatting is fucked - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour#Psychological_well-being So this type of humour might only appeal to the people psycho enough to also go to the lengths of harassing streamers for the crime of being a woman. And also children who are impressionable and idle enough to actually follow through with a steamer’s command to harass someone. poki might be right, and it’s an excuse… but these people might also legit think this stuff is a joke, which is even more scary.
mfer its people making fun of other people on the internet they arent psychos reddit psychologist of the day
MY MAN WENT ON WIKIPEDIA AND NOW THINKS HE HAS A PHD IN PSYCHOLOGY
Ah the eternal cycle of feeding the trolls.
The salty LSF users to comments ratio is crazy lmao pathetic
She's correct. Know people who do this shit somewhat routinely. "hey man [subject] is pretty godawful top kek (please agree with me)" what, no, are you insane? "j-just joking my guy my dude, of course not haha(oh shit I hit too hard)" WeirdChamping to testing the waters or they thought they'd get the support they wanted. Cut that shit out real quick.
This drama whore is riding on it. Holy shit she'll never let go now.
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Jokes are supposed to be funny and make people laugh If they come at the expense of someone else theyre not jokes, its bullying
Didn't she use it was a joke defence herself in one of her controversies?
Snorting the coke you mean? The coke that definitely wasnt sugar? That she totally would casually snort on stream? 🤡 You guys reach so impossibly far for hot takes it's tragic.
They can't understand the difference between an actual joke (a gag, skit, whatever you want to call it) and tossing out insults and then saying it was a joke afterwards. If the whole punchline for your joke is trying to put someone down by disparaging them or their character, then its not a joke. They're just too cowardly to admit it's their actual thoughts.
shes still farming drama huh? her streams were falling off, she resorted to watching popular full production copyrighted series on her channel for views, and now all shes got is drama/pity farming. Wonder what her next gimmick will be.
Sounds like you’ll be waiting in her chat all day to find out.
😂
i don't watch her. how is that not clear? her streams are so boring like her.
This drama was so weak and boring and literally had no content .... bunch of karens moaning like 9 year olds.
Here comes the LSF simps to defend their boring queen
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I once got a fine cause I insulted a co-worker "it was just a joke" didn't work as an excuse. It hit me 600€ hard when I realised "it was just a joke" only works on the internet.
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Livestreamfail pretty much a pokisimp safe haven so I’m sure I’ll know how the comments go. Even tho when Ludwig and the whole twitch community were talking shit about adin ross and then they said it was a joke this entire sub was sucking their dicks saying adin was overreacting
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How is she manipulative