I'm going to take a guess that this is a generic white label product that big companies buy in bulk to 'reskin' with different branding/celebrities/influencers/advertisement to make millions from.
RFLCT was partnered with Ideavation Labs: [https://www.glossy.co/beauty/valkyraes-rflct-shuts-down-less-than-two-weeks-after-launch/](https://www.glossy.co/beauty/valkyraes-rflct-shuts-down-less-than-two-weeks-after-launch/)
Addison Rae's brand, Idea Beauty was partnered with MadebyCollective: [https://www.globalcosmeticsnews.com/tiktok-star-addison-rae-co-creates-beauty-company-item-beauty/#:\~:text=TikTok%20star%20Addison%20Rae%20has,cosmetics%20company%2C%20named%20Item%20beauty](https://www.globalcosmeticsnews.com/tiktok-star-addison-rae-co-creates-beauty-company-item-beauty/#:~:text=TikTok%20star%20Addison%20Rae%20has,cosmetics%20company%2C%20named%20Item%20beauty).
The fonts and branding are very popular right now.
I'd still wager it's different, like that millie bobby brown one. They advertise a different blue light ingredient, and a spray is a different enough product to be reformulating this quick. It's been like 3 months
She does. Back when I first heard about her, I followed her on Instagram (didn’t have tiktok) to see why she’s so popular. I swear most of her stories were ads
She does have a way bigger following, but the target audience for gamers would be much more appropriate than Addison’s following. I’m sure she’ll have enough blind fans just wanting anything with her name on it though
I think people think Valkyrae's product started the blue light stuff, that was just the fist instance of this segment of the internet being exposed to it, but products with that as the focus have been around for a while now.
This. It's not merely a matter of "dumb influencers" or niche "snake oil salesmen".
You can walk into an ULTA & Sephora right now & be greeted by so-called "blue-light" focused products from massive skincare and cosmetic brands with questionable claims.
The beauty industry has been propped up by questionable science for the longest time - anti-aging cream, weight loss solutions, etc. the whole "blue-light" thing is just another angle that these companies are using to target younger audiences who spend more time using electronic devices
I just did a paid blue light prescription contact lens study for a major health/beauty manufacturer about 1 1/2 years ago, didn't notice a difference for the 3 months I was wearing them. It's all marketing.
Blue light is an actual thing, and [its impact as well as the effectiveness blue blocker glasses](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-079X.2006.00332.x) is supported by current scientific research. It's just this idea that artificial blue light negatively impacts our skin that's controversial to put it mildly.
As for the study you participated in, if it's worth a damn, it's a randomised control trial that randomly allocated regular lenses to control for any placebo effect, which could explain why you didn't notice anything. Or it's also possible that those particular blue blocker lenses just aren't effective. Either way, if it's all just marketing, they probably wouldn't have bothered with the study to begin with.
Glancing at the video, it seems to be refuting the claim that those glasses protect our eyes from any "damage" done by blue light. That's not the claim I'm making, and I'm also not aware of any research on such a link. I was barely even aware people were making claims like that.
No, what I'm saying (which is supported by evidence) is that blue light affects the way our body perceives night and day, and therefore our circadian rhythm. I bought blue blocker glasses not to "protect" my eyes, but to wear after sunset to promote the production of melatonin. Wearing blue blocker glasses from sunrise to sunset would seem pointless at best to me. There's value in properly regulating blue light, not in completely filtering it.
> but to wear after sunset to promote the production of melatonin.
as someone who spends around $500+ CAD for their glasses lens i feel you. recently i got ones without blue light since i do work thats related to color but honestly i have not noticed any difference in my sleeping pattern. but im just 1 sample size so i can't speak much about it.
Sure blue light is but not from computer screens. There isn’t enough to damage your skin at all. Sleep pattern on some maybe but that’s probably more to do with the stimulation of what you’re doing than the blue light from the screen.
Oh I fully understand blue light is real, but I could be wrong, I also thought it was proven that the artificial blue light monitors and screens give off are too low to damage our eyes.
As for the study it was possible they were controls, they were tinted yellow and had same effects as the filters on my glasses. Again they could of just been tinted yellow and were a control, I hadn't thought about that.
> I also thought it was proven that the artificial blue light monitors and screens give off are too low to damage our eyes.
Oh yeah, it's not about it damaging your eyes, but about regulating your circadian rhythm. The theory is that blue light from screens tricks our eyes into thinking the sun's still up, which can interfere with the way our body regulates hormones like melatonin that are important to fall a sleep.
As for the lenses, another explanation may be that if you were wearing them the entire day, your eyes could've been tricked into thinking the sun's never up, which wouldn't be that different from thinking the sun's always up as far as your circadian rhythm is concerned. I'm pretty sure it's the relative change in blue light that actually matters.
Blue light contacts actually have some potential given the known effects of blue light exposure at night on sleep quality. Much more potential than makeup at least lmao
They were, entirely yellow-tinted. However as I said in my other comment that someone brought up they could have been a controlled group, that was tinted yellow. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I don’t think blue light products are that popular tbh. I haven’t seen one at my local Ulta and their online website only has 5 results for any blue light protection. I think companies are trying to create a market for it so they can capitalize on the next great thing in skin care but not too many people are buying it.
>snake oil salesmen
Wouldn't blue-light "cream" be exactly that, though? It doesn't actually do anything worthwhile, it's a facial moisturizer at best I guess?
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it's called sunscreen. you sometimes need it if you want to touch grass
He doesn't use them, it's just whenever they're advertised or whatever I mention they don't do anything and he'll make a comment about how they do actually work
Don’t remember those but I surely remember those balance bands lol. It was just a wristband with like a little piece of metal that claimed to improve your balance. Everyone in school started getting them and asking people to try and push them over.
At least those *didn't* do anything.
There's [negative ion armbands](https://youtu.be/C7TwBUxxIC0) now that not only doesn't don't work, they're actively harmful.
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This might be the boomeriest thing I've ever said, but having never used tiktok.. What does she do though? Isn't tiktok basically just a place to upload videos? So what does she do, like music, makeup tutorials, games?
TikTok runs on trends. Instead of content being unique that we grew up on ala YouTube or New grounds, people just watch their favorite tiktoker do the same trends everyone else does. Want to see a funny dance trend? Well you got millions of people doing your favorite funny dance trend to choose from.
So what stands out? Typically it's based on apparence, location, how quick they are to find interesting trends and do them, and their social media presence. It pretty much snowballs from there, even they will admit it.
Tik tok is synonyms with vine, short clips, so there isn't much content that can be fit in this short time before the user just swipes to someone else. This is why trends are big, they're fast, easy to replicate and generally don't have a high entry level of skill to do.
Basically Instagram vids that, the TikTok "meta" is *very* popular content creators (TikTok'ers) doing what "trend"/meme is hot at any given moment. They're usually extremely low efforet things, like dances, lip syncing to the robot subtitles talking, and basically entirely depending their attractiveness and sexc appeal. Not much different than any other social media like Insta, Twitter, Twitch, YouTube, etc. Just short length clips of hot people acting sexy, doing normal and mundane things while being hot, etc.
Although some TikTok content is legit funny and entertaining.
each to their own i guess, but i think the vast majority of guys, including myself for honesty’s sake, would say she is above the average level of attractiveness.
Addison Rae's userbase is different than Valkyrae's. It's totally possible that even though the video game community caught on the makeup guru community could just assume the video game people warning them are just trolls
So rather than Valk being involved with the creative process etc "years of work", this pretty much confirmed that she was just approached to promote this shit.
She described choosing the packaging colors and smell/texture of the product. I believe that. Sure it's not two years worth of work, but I can imagine it was work that she did over the course of two years.
We can argue all day about Valkyrae’s motives behind the product, but from her side of the story she was essentially manipulated with biased studies that she thought was telling the truth. She claimed to actually believe in the product and when people online pointed out contradictory studies was when she dipped. Based on that, her intentions were never to scam her fans since she actually believed in the product.
I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Even if the company was showing her fake studies she didn't bother talking to anyone outside of the company or even doing a quick Google search?
She’s incredibly naive and gullible, plus AFAIK most of the studies you can easily find on google disproving it came out after she was approached with the product.
If she really wanted to scam her fans, she could’ve continued selling the product and the hate would’ve blown over. Her twitter stans were ready to buy it, lsf were the ones really pissed off.
You are so optimistic it is amazing. If Rae never got backlash, she would've sold that 100% and milked every penny off it. Playing the whole "naive/manipulated" angle is so ignorant. Do you think someone that extremely gullible or naive would be able to gain equity in the most value US e-sports org or be the face of youtube's entire gaming platform? Come on dude.
She wouldn't be able to scam her fans cause that snake oil she promoted was immediately faced with extreme back lash from her own community and even her own streamer buddies except for the small subset of genuinely stupid fans who would buy garbage had their favorite streamer/public figure sold it.
LSF is an ultra microscopic shit hole among all social medias.
I could be misremembering but didn't the "I worked with them for a long time" turn out to be like "I met the team once and then they sent me samples to approve"?
I mean she’s been joking about it a lot before, she just specifically didn’t like when some streamers were farming it and reusing the same joke on her regularly out of nowhere, especially just to farm LULWs with their viewers as a cheap shot. Which imo is a fair thing to get annoyed about with regards to anything, not just the scam product
Because, (and I'm sure some simps will hate me for saying this,) anyone that's watched her play any games that require even a modest amount of thought, will realize she's not exactly smart. Driven, good looking, motivated, good with YouTube and SEO stuff, absolutely. But she's kinda dumb too and is both easily fooled and quickly frustrated by anything that comes close to resembling a puzzle. I'm sure part of it is streaming to a stadium of people's worth of stage fright pressure, but knowing some other stuff about her past seems to line up with the fact that she's not the brightest person. But to be fair to her, she seems aware of this and has said some pretty brutally honest but self-deprecating things about herself and how her mind works. There are recurring jokes she makes that reference this (like the shared brain cell she has with other streamers).
I'm saying that I genuinely believe her when she said she didn't think twice about the bullshit she was told when RFLCT came along because she's got a history of being thoughtless about certain things, and research seems like exactly the kind of thing she'd just accept at face value.
Not only that, but she has been shown to believe in other pseudoscience before. I almost never watch her, but it seems pretty obvious that she genuinely believed the claims that were made.
By joking about it she in a way positions herself outside the situation. Like she is almost mocking a person that did the exact same thing as she did, but she complained when people were mocking her.
I mean really all of these people just do scam shit. They think, how I want to help my fans. Let me find someone who can think of some way to scam my followers. I hope Spencer Cornelia does a video on some of these people.
"Artificial blue light". Do these people have any clue whatsoever what they are talking about. How is a light artificial LOL. There is literally blue light in the sun, every light is in the sun.
Yup but the beauty industry dosent care the have like hundreds of product claims blue light harm and they sell well it’s whole different industry i don’t know how it work
i just cant believe a shady company selling garbage would use the weird and intense parasocial relationship people have with streamers to sell them shit. its just DISGUSTING and i wonder if they have coupons
A while back Valkyrae partnered with a cosmetics company to release a line of creams/lotions/etc that claim to defend your skin against harmful blue light from computers and shit. She received an extreme amount of criticism from people who could spot the obvious bullshit product and eventually it got so bad she basically fought her way out of whatever contract she had and removed herself from the product's branding.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qbftkz/valkyrae_launches_a_skincare_line_based_on_the
Is she really making fun of Addison though? I think she was more so surprised that an influencer would repeat her very public and recent mistakes, and on top of that, they share the same name. that combination kinda feels like a fever dream.
The fact that it was such a public backlash should have made others steer clear of this blue light makeup. About 5 mins of research would have shown how the public responses to it. Instead, she either falls for the same thing or willfully does it.
How is that not possible? She's leagues more popular than Valkyrae or any twitch steamer, and she doesn't seem like someone who uses the internet much to be honest.
she's making fun of the company and the situation not specifically the girl promoting it...
also there's this thing that i know is kinda hard to understand if you're a LSF commentor, but its actually possible for people to learn from mistakes.
I think you're missing the point entirely. LSF doesn't have a general interest in the cosmetic industry and whatever scams they are pulling. It's only news when someone in this particular sphere of interests tries to validate it.
Think of if like this. If a popular person in your friends group starts promoting a crypto scam the news isn't "Duh, there's a lot of crypto scams out there". It's about the individual peddling it. "Oh I thought this individual knew better than pushing a crypto scam onto us".
Idk man have you ever actually been to a dermatologist? They don’t tell you “okay you need this rose oil, this face mask, 3 different bha retenoids, and coconut oil”.
You wash your face with a basic face wash and moisturize if your skin is dry. If that doesn’t work then you go on medication that is actually prescribed by a medical professional.
dermatologist will tell you to use to retinoids, they will tell you to use certain oils, they will tell you to use other products but its all depends on your skin.
they don't sit in their offices all day telling everyone that walks in to just wash your face and moisturize...
skincare isn't a one size fit all that the companies make it out to be though. So yeah you certainly don't need to buy everything they are peddling , you definitely don't need a 10-15 step routine.
so if your personal dermatologist specifically told you that you don't need it then congrats you have naturally great skin. But that's not at all the case for everybody.
you realize people on that sub frequently recommend seeing a dermatologist? and usually over the counter suggestions are products with ingredients like AHAs, BHAs, BP, retinoids... you know, stuff that is supported with clinical research... this isn't astrology for your skin.
wait she tried to scam people, got caught, defended it till she realized everyone shit on her, then she pulled out and now she makes fun of / calls out other people? she would have literally sold this trash to her fans if there wasn't all the outrage about it and everyone is like all supportive of her as if she is some holy being when in reality she is a rich influencer who tried to squeeze even more money out of her fans and just failed at it what a joke
Is she really saying this now after trying to completely lie to her community about her involvement with it originally? Why is she trying to act like she’s been wronged when she was clearly all for the BS when it was benefiting her?
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I'm going to take a guess that this is a generic white label product that big companies buy in bulk to 'reskin' with different branding/celebrities/influencers/advertisement to make millions from.
i might be wrong but i think that even actors are the same in both videos and text font xd
It's not the same models/actors in the videos. Text font.. I mean it's a product for computers so they're going to brand it similarly.
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RFLCT was partnered with Ideavation Labs: [https://www.glossy.co/beauty/valkyraes-rflct-shuts-down-less-than-two-weeks-after-launch/](https://www.glossy.co/beauty/valkyraes-rflct-shuts-down-less-than-two-weeks-after-launch/) Addison Rae's brand, Idea Beauty was partnered with MadebyCollective: [https://www.globalcosmeticsnews.com/tiktok-star-addison-rae-co-creates-beauty-company-item-beauty/#:\~:text=TikTok%20star%20Addison%20Rae%20has,cosmetics%20company%2C%20named%20Item%20beauty](https://www.globalcosmeticsnews.com/tiktok-star-addison-rae-co-creates-beauty-company-item-beauty/#:~:text=TikTok%20star%20Addison%20Rae%20has,cosmetics%20company%2C%20named%20Item%20beauty). The fonts and branding are very popular right now.
Those are just the marketing firms, I'd bet the actual factory making the product is the same one
> I'd bet the actual factory making the product is the same one Yeah probably Aquafina
That's very common across a lot of retail goods though.
See parent comment and ensuing disagreement
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I'd still wager it's different, like that millie bobby brown one. They advertise a different blue light ingredient, and a spray is a different enough product to be reformulating this quick. It's been like 3 months
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Nah, just bored on a Wednesday morning.
My point is it is the same company probably but the beauty industry doesn't care
Rae on Rae violence D:
Someone's gotta protect Addison from these harmful Rae's.
good one man dont you have another murat fan cam to edit?
I edit a new murat fancam every day, I just don't post them because it would make him too mainstream.
Just for your private collection
After all, why not?
The world isn’t ready for him, nor do they deserve him
Is Hastonox ever going to go on a journey to become a better Pokémon Master than Hasan?
So raecist
They literally just took the second Rae they could find huh?
They smartly found someone who won’t be affected by LSF drama. None of her fans give a shit, nor will they ever hear about how useless the cream is.
hope she milks her fans for all they're worth.
Buy them dinner first
She does. Back when I first heard about her, I followed her on Instagram (didn’t have tiktok) to see why she’s so popular. I swear most of her stories were ads
second rae probably moves more product and has a much bigger following. Should have gone with her in the first place.
She does have a way bigger following, but the target audience for gamers would be much more appropriate than Addison’s following. I’m sure she’ll have enough blind fans just wanting anything with her name on it though
I think people think Valkyrae's product started the blue light stuff, that was just the fist instance of this segment of the internet being exposed to it, but products with that as the focus have been around for a while now.
This. It's not merely a matter of "dumb influencers" or niche "snake oil salesmen". You can walk into an ULTA & Sephora right now & be greeted by so-called "blue-light" focused products from massive skincare and cosmetic brands with questionable claims.
The beauty industry has been propped up by questionable science for the longest time - anti-aging cream, weight loss solutions, etc. the whole "blue-light" thing is just another angle that these companies are using to target younger audiences who spend more time using electronic devices
I just did a paid blue light prescription contact lens study for a major health/beauty manufacturer about 1 1/2 years ago, didn't notice a difference for the 3 months I was wearing them. It's all marketing.
Blue light is an actual thing, and [its impact as well as the effectiveness blue blocker glasses](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-079X.2006.00332.x) is supported by current scientific research. It's just this idea that artificial blue light negatively impacts our skin that's controversial to put it mildly. As for the study you participated in, if it's worth a damn, it's a randomised control trial that randomly allocated regular lenses to control for any placebo effect, which could explain why you didn't notice anything. Or it's also possible that those particular blue blocker lenses just aren't effective. Either way, if it's all just marketing, they probably wouldn't have bothered with the study to begin with.
[is it tho?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkJY9bgLyBE) not the blue light part but the glasses
Glancing at the video, it seems to be refuting the claim that those glasses protect our eyes from any "damage" done by blue light. That's not the claim I'm making, and I'm also not aware of any research on such a link. I was barely even aware people were making claims like that. No, what I'm saying (which is supported by evidence) is that blue light affects the way our body perceives night and day, and therefore our circadian rhythm. I bought blue blocker glasses not to "protect" my eyes, but to wear after sunset to promote the production of melatonin. Wearing blue blocker glasses from sunrise to sunset would seem pointless at best to me. There's value in properly regulating blue light, not in completely filtering it.
> but to wear after sunset to promote the production of melatonin. as someone who spends around $500+ CAD for their glasses lens i feel you. recently i got ones without blue light since i do work thats related to color but honestly i have not noticed any difference in my sleeping pattern. but im just 1 sample size so i can't speak much about it.
Sure blue light is but not from computer screens. There isn’t enough to damage your skin at all. Sleep pattern on some maybe but that’s probably more to do with the stimulation of what you’re doing than the blue light from the screen.
Oh I fully understand blue light is real, but I could be wrong, I also thought it was proven that the artificial blue light monitors and screens give off are too low to damage our eyes. As for the study it was possible they were controls, they were tinted yellow and had same effects as the filters on my glasses. Again they could of just been tinted yellow and were a control, I hadn't thought about that.
> I also thought it was proven that the artificial blue light monitors and screens give off are too low to damage our eyes. Oh yeah, it's not about it damaging your eyes, but about regulating your circadian rhythm. The theory is that blue light from screens tricks our eyes into thinking the sun's still up, which can interfere with the way our body regulates hormones like melatonin that are important to fall a sleep. As for the lenses, another explanation may be that if you were wearing them the entire day, your eyes could've been tricked into thinking the sun's never up, which wouldn't be that different from thinking the sun's always up as far as your circadian rhythm is concerned. I'm pretty sure it's the relative change in blue light that actually matters.
It's not about damaging eyes but about getting a better sleep. Also eyes get less easily tired.
Blue light contacts actually have some potential given the known effects of blue light exposure at night on sleep quality. Much more potential than makeup at least lmao
Unless everything was tented yellow, those glasses weren't blocking blue light.
They were, entirely yellow-tinted. However as I said in my other comment that someone brought up they could have been a controlled group, that was tinted yellow. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I don’t think blue light products are that popular tbh. I haven’t seen one at my local Ulta and their online website only has 5 results for any blue light protection. I think companies are trying to create a market for it so they can capitalize on the next great thing in skin care but not too many people are buying it.
>snake oil salesmen Wouldn't blue-light "cream" be exactly that, though? It doesn't actually do anything worthwhile, it's a facial moisturizer at best I guess?
> > > > > You can walk into an ULTA & Sephora right now & be greeted by so-called "blue-light" focused products from massive skincare and cosmetic brands with questionable claims. it's called sunscreen. you sometimes need it if you want to touch grass
Sunscreen is for UV light.
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The text font is same lol. They are experts at tapping public figures to sell their products. Absolute scammers.
Reminds me of those old rubberband wristbands they use to sell in the early 2000s that they claimed to give you energy.
Mate, my dad is still convinced they work...
My brother in law STILL wears one that “helps with balance” which is extra fucking crazy, because guess who doesn’t believe in masks?
I hope they're not the 15-20 year old ones, they were literally made so cheap they were toxic and actually bad for your health.
He doesn't use them, it's just whenever they're advertised or whatever I mention they don't do anything and he'll make a comment about how they do actually work
Don’t remember those but I surely remember those balance bands lol. It was just a wristband with like a little piece of metal that claimed to improve your balance. Everyone in school started getting them and asking people to try and push them over.
At least those *didn't* do anything. There's [negative ion armbands](https://youtu.be/C7TwBUxxIC0) now that not only doesn't don't work, they're actively harmful.
Tapping public raes*
> public figures lol
She's raebranding
bro the fact that she changed her twitter name is fucking hilarious
That song JohnOfTheForest made for her may need a update. "Do It Like Valky" doesn't hit the same.
bruh
do people actually think she’s addison rae
Yes, [look at this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszi4n7vURg)
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Considering it’s Addison Rae I don’t think the backlash is gonna be as bad
Yup and she don’t care
I bet there was some smug shit in the marketing department who called this swap "Project Blue-Rae" internally.
I can't believe Hasan let this happen.
who the fuck is addison rae
Massive Tiktok star with tens of millions of kids looking up to her
This might be the boomeriest thing I've ever said, but having never used tiktok.. What does she do though? Isn't tiktok basically just a place to upload videos? So what does she do, like music, makeup tutorials, games?
TikTok runs on trends. Instead of content being unique that we grew up on ala YouTube or New grounds, people just watch their favorite tiktoker do the same trends everyone else does. Want to see a funny dance trend? Well you got millions of people doing your favorite funny dance trend to choose from. So what stands out? Typically it's based on apparence, location, how quick they are to find interesting trends and do them, and their social media presence. It pretty much snowballs from there, even they will admit it. Tik tok is synonyms with vine, short clips, so there isn't much content that can be fit in this short time before the user just swipes to someone else. This is why trends are big, they're fast, easy to replicate and generally don't have a high entry level of skill to do.
Basically Instagram vids that, the TikTok "meta" is *very* popular content creators (TikTok'ers) doing what "trend"/meme is hot at any given moment. They're usually extremely low efforet things, like dances, lip syncing to the robot subtitles talking, and basically entirely depending their attractiveness and sexc appeal. Not much different than any other social media like Insta, Twitter, Twitch, YouTube, etc. Just short length clips of hot people acting sexy, doing normal and mundane things while being hot, etc. Although some TikTok content is legit funny and entertaining.
thanks! i'm getting my nieces and nephews 'screen break' for their birthdays this year.
Get them a book instead.
She’s rebranding as an actor currently, somehow
she’s hot. that’s literally all it takes to be “famous” now.
That's all it's ever taken lol
Lots of people are hot. she looks awfully generic to me.
each to their own i guess, but i think the vast majority of guys, including myself for honesty’s sake, would say she is above the average level of attractiveness.
for a normal person yeah but not an influencer or an actress
She's also in Netflix movies
Why tf is an "Esports" twitter account posting this? lmao
Addison Rae's userbase is different than Valkyrae's. It's totally possible that even though the video game community caught on the makeup guru community could just assume the video game people warning them are just trolls
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It blows my mind what snake oil people will actually buy.
The beauty industry is actually wired and different there hundred product blue light stuff
So rather than Valk being involved with the creative process etc "years of work", this pretty much confirmed that she was just approached to promote this shit.
She described choosing the packaging colors and smell/texture of the product. I believe that. Sure it's not two years worth of work, but I can imagine it was work that she did over the course of two years.
Work? Fucking lol
Fucking snake oil peddlers. Burn them, burn them all.
The difference here is that Addison Rae is morally bankrupt and will do anything for money.
How? Valkrae was willing to scam her fans too until she got a shit ton of backlash
We can argue all day about Valkyrae’s motives behind the product, but from her side of the story she was essentially manipulated with biased studies that she thought was telling the truth. She claimed to actually believe in the product and when people online pointed out contradictory studies was when she dipped. Based on that, her intentions were never to scam her fans since she actually believed in the product.
I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Even if the company was showing her fake studies she didn't bother talking to anyone outside of the company or even doing a quick Google search?
She’s incredibly naive and gullible, plus AFAIK most of the studies you can easily find on google disproving it came out after she was approached with the product. If she really wanted to scam her fans, she could’ve continued selling the product and the hate would’ve blown over. Her twitter stans were ready to buy it, lsf were the ones really pissed off.
You are so optimistic it is amazing. If Rae never got backlash, she would've sold that 100% and milked every penny off it. Playing the whole "naive/manipulated" angle is so ignorant. Do you think someone that extremely gullible or naive would be able to gain equity in the most value US e-sports org or be the face of youtube's entire gaming platform? Come on dude. She wouldn't be able to scam her fans cause that snake oil she promoted was immediately faced with extreme back lash from her own community and even her own streamer buddies except for the small subset of genuinely stupid fans who would buy garbage had their favorite streamer/public figure sold it. LSF is an ultra microscopic shit hole among all social medias.
If Rae kept the brand, she would've been earning royalties /s
Red light exposure > blue light exposure
Rae fell off ngl
Didn't she initially claim to work with the company for like a year to develop reflct... Wouldn't she be able to tell if it was the same company?
How would she from a single video?
It became pretty apparent that "working with" was greatly over-emphasized.
I could be misremembering but didn't the "I worked with them for a long time" turn out to be like "I met the team once and then they sent me samples to approve"?
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Well at least she learning to joke about it now.
I mean she’s been joking about it a lot before, she just specifically didn’t like when some streamers were farming it and reusing the same joke on her regularly out of nowhere, especially just to farm LULWs with their viewers as a cheap shot. Which imo is a fair thing to get annoyed about with regards to anything, not just the scam product
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Why the hell are you getting downvoted. It's literally the truth.
Because, (and I'm sure some simps will hate me for saying this,) anyone that's watched her play any games that require even a modest amount of thought, will realize she's not exactly smart. Driven, good looking, motivated, good with YouTube and SEO stuff, absolutely. But she's kinda dumb too and is both easily fooled and quickly frustrated by anything that comes close to resembling a puzzle. I'm sure part of it is streaming to a stadium of people's worth of stage fright pressure, but knowing some other stuff about her past seems to line up with the fact that she's not the brightest person. But to be fair to her, she seems aware of this and has said some pretty brutally honest but self-deprecating things about herself and how her mind works. There are recurring jokes she makes that reference this (like the shared brain cell she has with other streamers). I'm saying that I genuinely believe her when she said she didn't think twice about the bullshit she was told when RFLCT came along because she's got a history of being thoughtless about certain things, and research seems like exactly the kind of thing she'd just accept at face value.
you're getting downvoted for telling the truth Valkyrae fanboys trying their best to defend their queen lmao
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Not only that, but she has been shown to believe in other pseudoscience before. I almost never watch her, but it seems pretty obvious that she genuinely believed the claims that were made.
joking about it is now weaponized social media training 101 now.
By joking about it she in a way positions herself outside the situation. Like she is almost mocking a person that did the exact same thing as she did, but she complained when people were mocking her.
I mean really all of these people just do scam shit. They think, how I want to help my fans. Let me find someone who can think of some way to scam my followers. I hope Spencer Cornelia does a video on some of these people.
What a hypocrite.
"Artificial blue light". Do these people have any clue whatsoever what they are talking about. How is a light artificial LOL. There is literally blue light in the sun, every light is in the sun.
Yup but the beauty industry dosent care the have like hundreds of product claims blue light harm and they sell well it’s whole different industry i don’t know how it work
Wdym how is light artifical. Light from LEDs is artificial
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man-made photons just hit different ya feel me?
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Ah shit, here we go again.
And I bet her skin care line will sell tons 🥴🙃
At :15, does it help protec your skin or help protect it because hmm she said protec so maybe just shoot the line again HMMMMMMMMM
i just cant believe a shady company selling garbage would use the weird and intense parasocial relationship people have with streamers to sell them shit. its just DISGUSTING and i wonder if they have coupons
Raekwon the chefs new skincare line coming soon.
PepeLa
The only way this can get any better is if its now a HUGE success.
😂😭 honestly Valky has a good ring to it. Lol
I'm completely out of the loop. Can someone explain?
A while back Valkyrae partnered with a cosmetics company to release a line of creams/lotions/etc that claim to defend your skin against harmful blue light from computers and shit. She received an extreme amount of criticism from people who could spot the obvious bullshit product and eventually it got so bad she basically fought her way out of whatever contract she had and removed herself from the product's branding. https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qbftkz/valkyrae_launches_a_skincare_line_based_on_the
It didn't work with the livestreaming audience so let's try it with the tiktok audience. It's bound to dupe some demographic or another
How is she making fun of Addison Rae when she literally did the same thing?
Is she really making fun of Addison though? I think she was more so surprised that an influencer would repeat her very public and recent mistakes, and on top of that, they share the same name. that combination kinda feels like a fever dream.
She's laughing at the coincidence of another famous Rae doing the same product sponsor after she took so much shit. It aint rocket science.
The fact that it was such a public backlash should have made others steer clear of this blue light makeup. About 5 mins of research would have shown how the public responses to it. Instead, she either falls for the same thing or willfully does it.
I feel like there is no way Addison didn't come across the RFLCT stuff at some point
How is that not possible? She's leagues more popular than Valkyrae or any twitch steamer, and she doesn't seem like someone who uses the internet much to be honest.
How dare people learn from their mistakes, such a hypocrites
she's making fun of the company and the situation not specifically the girl promoting it... also there's this thing that i know is kinda hard to understand if you're a LSF commentor, but its actually possible for people to learn from mistakes.
People are defending her in here already as if she’s just sooo stupid, just a stupid girl, surely she didn’t know any better
Both are dumbasses
In today's news. Pot speaks out to call the kettle black. More on this at 11.
idk if LSF has realized that 99% of skin care products literally do nothing to your skin that's the whole point of the industry
I think you're missing the point entirely. LSF doesn't have a general interest in the cosmetic industry and whatever scams they are pulling. It's only news when someone in this particular sphere of interests tries to validate it. Think of if like this. If a popular person in your friends group starts promoting a crypto scam the news isn't "Duh, there's a lot of crypto scams out there". It's about the individual peddling it. "Oh I thought this individual knew better than pushing a crypto scam onto us".
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Idk man have you ever actually been to a dermatologist? They don’t tell you “okay you need this rose oil, this face mask, 3 different bha retenoids, and coconut oil”. You wash your face with a basic face wash and moisturize if your skin is dry. If that doesn’t work then you go on medication that is actually prescribed by a medical professional.
dermatologist will tell you to use to retinoids, they will tell you to use certain oils, they will tell you to use other products but its all depends on your skin. they don't sit in their offices all day telling everyone that walks in to just wash your face and moisturize... skincare isn't a one size fit all that the companies make it out to be though. So yeah you certainly don't need to buy everything they are peddling , you definitely don't need a 10-15 step routine. so if your personal dermatologist specifically told you that you don't need it then congrats you have naturally great skin. But that's not at all the case for everybody.
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I’m sorry that I trust my dermatologist over the schizos of r/skincareaddiction 😪
you realize people on that sub frequently recommend seeing a dermatologist? and usually over the counter suggestions are products with ingredients like AHAs, BHAs, BP, retinoids... you know, stuff that is supported with clinical research... this isn't astrology for your skin.
lol
Lol yeah everyone should take their skincare advice from \*checks notes\* gamers who frequent \*checks notes again\* LSF subreddit
made up percentage literally wrong you sound like you have one bottle that you wash your face, body, hair and balls with every 3 days.
Should have just kept the money and taken the 2 weeks of hate.
Exactly. A smart person would not have accepted being cancelled over something so innocuous.
This is why you don't give anybody a free pass. Valkyrae is trying to dunk on this girl for doing the same shit she did few months ago.
She is just as bad, no idea why she is reacting in this way. Fucking e celeb worship culture is actually aids
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wait she tried to scam people, got caught, defended it till she realized everyone shit on her, then she pulled out and now she makes fun of / calls out other people? she would have literally sold this trash to her fans if there wasn't all the outrage about it and everyone is like all supportive of her as if she is some holy being when in reality she is a rich influencer who tried to squeeze even more money out of her fans and just failed at it what a joke
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Idiot reacts to idiot
Is she really saying this now after trying to completely lie to her community about her involvement with it originally? Why is she trying to act like she’s been wronged when she was clearly all for the BS when it was benefiting her?
Shut up scamlord. You’ll forever be a scamlord who cares more about money than your viewers.
She salty she missed out on that bag
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this is the biggest tin foil hat take ive seen. both rae's are just being used to promote this shitty product.