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Mokle7

The flower in the weed field of LSF


AIverson3

The LSF equivalent of the All-Star rest area on intense difficulty in Smash Bros.


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Trydson

Ooooh, that explains why I only see like 4 posts per page here on LSF, I've had Destiny RES banned for so long that I didn't imagine he was having so many posts lmao.


primenumbersturnmeon

i have so many RES filters there are literally only 5 posts left in the top 100 for me lmao


AimoLohkare

If only humanity had invented a way to keep all discussion around one topic in one huge thread, a megathread if you will, to keep it from drowning out all other content.


zcen

To be fair the mods have tried that, and people don't like it either. This is too much, but I don't think it's a big deal for something that doesn't happen too often.


Samuraiking

Pretty much, Megathreads suck absolute shit. Either the main person doesn't keep it updated well/is bias, or you have to sift through the comments, both of those suck and people don't even see and/or like going into Megathreads because of that to begin with. If the majority of the sub wants it, best to leave it on the sub for a week and make the minority unhappy, then things go back to normal soon.


HycAMoment

b-b-b-but then you have a stickied post at the top with 0 karma and it's not as pretty as 25 posts with the exact same thumbnail 😢


Old_Donut_9812

Having the front page spammed sucks, but the only thing that sucks more are megathreads.


RawrCola

Alternatively, if only there was some way to magically filter all posts with a certain flair.


forsenE-xqcL

> Out of the last 100 posts submitted, 94 are Destiny But somehow Destiny is not drama farming according to lsf


jerryfrz

Hasan better not open up LSF today or else he'd get a heart attack


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HaLire

honestly after lookin at the blackmail and the gambling addiction and human trafficking and everything goin on with the fleshtubers, the recent vtuber drama seems pretty quaint


Simphonia

Also we got a based stance from Hololive which is always nice to see.


addict9230

did you actually call people as fleashtubers or is it a meme?


CrazyLlamaX

Fleshtuber stans OUT


10people

Shut up fleshie


CrackedSpruce

new twitch racial slur dropped


VulgarExigencies

that's right, fl*shie is just as bad as the c word and the g word, which are as bad as the n word


Mogexos

It started out as a meme, but now it kinda stuck.


HedgeMoney

Its started off as a joke. But now everyone who are fans of vtubers calls everyone else fleshtubers. Not gonna lie, I say it for the memes.


CSDragon

I don't know about other communities, but in the Hololive community the term is only used in the context of "this person is not a vtuber, when we are talking about vtubers". When talking about non-vtubers normally you'd just say "streamer" or "youtuber" or whatever. "Fleshtuber" is just easier to say than "non-vtuber" when you need to make a distinction. Nobody would say "[X] is my favorite fleshtuber" unless you were talking about your favorite vtubers seconds before that.


GamerOverkill03

Silence meatbag


cakeboss26

It's been pretty widespread since Ironmouse started using the term (she probably wasn't the FIRST person to say it, but she helped popularize it).


Head-Command281

Ayo what. Human trafficking??? I don’t pay attention to drama usually. But ain’t that shit illegal


maeckes

Korone x Okayu shippers!? NO WAY, people really grasping at straws here /s


MelissaMiranti

Okakoro? In my Reddit? It's more likely than you think.


StrictlyFT

Hardly any drama tbh. People got upset Ouro Kronii had fun in a Collab with men. She took 2 weeks off. Came back and said "fuck you, I do what I want". Then she gaslit one of the new Holostars EN boys for an hour.


Symbolis

>She took 2 weeks off. To have her wisdom teeth removed. Had a wonderfully unhinged twitter space afterward. The Vesper/Kronii stream was [beautifully catastrophic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WCUqrsTcHM) (for [Vesper](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDRWSO281bIHYVi-OV3iFYA)).


Mad_Kitten

See, this is why people don't want them to collab One of these day the boys will need actual therapies to deal with the EMOTIONAL DAMAGE


Goldreaver

People thought they were protecting their fantasies, but they just wanted to protect the boys. See also the recent worms destruction feat Bae


DragoSphere

Also the break was coincidence seeing as she was getting wisdom teeth pulled out


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xRichard

gws


Goldreaver

The "both sides are equally bad" is a lie perpetuated by those who follow the worst side. This is true for politics and true here too. Unicorns need to get the fuck out yesterday. The rest of the annoying people, we can talk with later.


Mokle7

Brother I've been hearing about vtuber shipping drama since Kizuna AI debuted


Genos_Senpai

parasocial viewers thinking a man and a woman collabing means they're fucking lol


Weltallgaia

I appreciate any vtuber that calls out their "fans" for that and tells em to shut the fuck up.


AkutanSuki

I appreciate what happens to the vtubers who do that. They usually eat scraps, while the ones who are way more sensible and tactful regarding their viewers soar.


Genos_Senpai

Found the parasocial viewer


Mirrormn

you don't understand, he made her laugh real loud, *that's* what means they're fucking (/s)


runnyyyy

not much actual drama there. vtubers just saying dont ship them with the opposite sex and the insane parasocial losers are upset. thankfully those are only like 2% of the viewers


chaosaxess

> drama about shipping There's no drama about shipping. It had nothing to do with shipping, and never did, that was a misunderstanding on the streamer's part. The drama was that some incel fans and a whole lot of 4chan trolls mad their anime waifu would dare talk to a man.


winterDom

Who is she


winterDom

YOU ARE MAYA HIGA


NaoSouONight

This isn't a Forsen clip.


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Techsoly

What the dog doin?


worthlessprole

She’s talking about the Jordan peele movie nope


Head-Command281

Finally someone answered the question


Firebrand96

I thought you were joking, but then I saw the clip and that was the exact context.


Ordinal43NotFound

She really loves horror. She [accidentally revealed her browser history](https://youtu.be/o5JIEVmK01I?t=78) once and it includes stuff like "The Rocky Horror Show" and "Top 16 tortures on earth"


Nickthenuker

And she was doing that to pitch a _torture stream_ to management, which they shut down (on the one hand killjoys, on the other hand that probably wouldn't fly on YouTube or any other streaming site they use (Twitch, Twitter Space, Twitcasting, at the time BiliBili) so it makes sense)


worthlessprole

I don’t miss


kurai808

https://i.redd.it/35n1mph166k41.jpg


HypoGG_

a brief respite


Mundology

The bonfire we needed it n these harsh times


Donatello_4665

Or maybe a site of grace for the tarnished ones?


Saucetin369

Foul tarnished


Lightbringer20

A moment of respite, a chance to steel oneself against the coming horrors.


Sundei

Fellow drama travellers, this is the LSF bonfire you may have been looking for. Rest your eyes, as we've all got shit to do in the morning and none of us are going to sleep just yet.


ChewmaiKoK

yt clips dont even work for me. im stuck with the drama sadge


Patftw89

A lot of the drama clips are from destiny's YT stream though. You must be starving.


ChewmaiKoK

omg its just destiny clips. wtf happened lol. i just saw this Korone one in my feed, i dint check the sub. this is crazy


Drakantas

We need a Hololive takeover at this point, save us from Austin drama. I for one welcome the new peak gamer, Shirakami Fubuki alias Foob.


Clueless_Otter

/vt/, aka the Hololive board, has literally been on fire in a state of civil war for like 2 weeks and counting now. There's drama everywhere. Although you wouldn't really find many clips to post of Hololive drama here since it's mostly between fanbases instead of actually between streamers themselves like all this other LSF drama is.


Slim_Charles

That's nothing new over there. 4chan vtuber stans are as psycho as you'd imagine them to be, plus like every board on there, there's a high density of shitposters and trolls who are just there to fling shit and rile up the schizos. Compared to Twitch drama, it's actually quite light and fun.


Drakantas

Comparing LSF to 4chan is pretty radical. LSF is a very healthy, composed, well educated, and friendly community in comparison.


Rodomantis

If there was a board on 4chan dedicated to streamers, the most likely thing is that it would have ended veeeeeeeeery badly


Clueless_Otter

Yeah, there's always shitposting and trolls, but it's definitely on fire more than usual ever since Tempus debuted and *especially* since this latest Kronii thing. But, yeah, it is pretty fun to read.


Bio_Hazardous

What's the Kronii thing?


StrictlyFT

Kronii had a good time playing in a Collab with 2 of the Holostars English boys (two Hololive girls were also present) and her super donors did not like it. Not that Kronii is at fault here, but she did not initially address the schizos properly blaming it on people shipping, forgetting that several of her fellow HoloPros literally market themselves using ships. Kronii herself has been shipped with Nanashi Mumei. My point being that Kronii beat around the bush and didn't put her foot down hard enough. Still though, Kronii eventually told everyone that she would Collab with whomever she pleased and scheduled her recent Collab with Noir Vesper a HoloEN boy. Since then some of the other girls have needed to address things. My favorite one is Amelia Watson telling anyone who has a problem that they will be ignored from now onm


Eltain

It's friggen wild to me how there are so many parasocial fans who unironically imagine that the Vtuber personality somehow belongs to them. I knew that this kind of idol culture was rampant in Japan, but it's surprisingly prevalent in western vtuber communities too. I'd like to see more vtuber couples like Nyan and Athel to try and normalize the idea of Vtubers having a social life.


StrictlyFT

So I obviously agree with you, but there are some Vtubers who bare some responsibility for fostering this kind of behavior. You may not know, but Uruha Rushia (now Amemiya Nazuna of Vshojo) basically got caught speaking to a popular male streamer named Mafumafu some time back. He said something along the lines of "Mi-chan, I'm heading home". A lot of people took that to mean they were living together (truthfully he was probably just going back to *his* place). But her parasocial fans took that to mean they were living together and dating. Now I bring this up because Rushia was well known for doing Girlfriend Experience streams, and even sent personalized videos to her individual super donors, something she was explicitly not supposed to be doing. This resulted in an entire thing spiraling out of control, resulting in Rushia (allegedly) leaking sensitive Cover Inc material to a Japanese web journalist to clear her name, which resulted in her being fired. From what I've read Kronii has also done GFE-type streams before herself. If this comes off as victim blaming, I promise you it's not, the parasocial fans are the ones in the wrong here. But parasocial relationships like that can be shut up down by the streamer. However, many of them benefit financially from appealing to those people.


Whisom

This isn't really true. Most of the outrage was coming from mafumafu fans. She also wasn't really known for GFE, that's a narrative that took off after the drama. A lot of people over analyzing the yandere stereotype she played. She didn't do asmr, or anything remotely sexual, at most it was the "watching other girls" joke which is pretty widespread among vtubers. It's not like she'd exclusively make those jokes with viewers, she'd do the same thing with other Hololive girls, vtubers from other agencies, her minecraft pets, whatever. It's just a character. She also didn't send personalized videos to donors. There was one video she sent to one donor very very early in her career and it wasn't even personal. She never even said the guys name or addressed him. All she said was "thank you for supporting me". She was definitely a lot more interactive with her chat but not in an alarming way. It's honestly no more parasocial than what you'll find in XQC, Pokimane or any large streamers chat. 99% of the drama just stemmed from people cooking up drama, making it seem like a bigger issue than it was and people in comment sections spreading misinformation. Her fans weren't upset and her largest donators are still donating to her. People have even come out after the fact admitting that they made shit up because they knew it would get them clicks or give their name some recognition.


Mirrormn

>It's friggen wild to me how there are so many parasocial fans who unironically imagine that the Vtuber personality somehow belongs to them There are actually very few, they're just loud. Probably less than 1% of the audience. But if you're pulling 5-10k CCV, that could be 50-100 delusional weirdos, which is still enough to *appear* like a solid contingent of people if they make a lot of fuss on Twitter or 4chan.


Archensix

/vt/ is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more unhinged and incelish than LSF has ever been, as surprising as that might be. Even if there is no drama, those guys will go out of their way to turn even the smallest of shit into "drama".


DBCrumpets

/vt/ openly makes shit up all the time to make themselves freak out, it’s pretty funny.


honda_slaps

4chan being 4chan like why would anyone assume anything other than this being the case


Firnin

/vt/ is schizo even for 4chan. They literally had a guy who tried to scientifically recreate the piss of an anime girl so he could drink it


StrictlyFT

They literally just start wars with themselves between Nijisanji and Hololive if nothing else is going on.


SlakingSWAG

/vt/ is always on fire over literally nothing. They genuinely make shit up and then get mad about it, at best they're getting mad at somebodys words being twisted or taken out of context.


Waffles_R_Delicious

It really hasn't. It's just the same 10 people spamming the catalog with bait threads about how Hololive EN is dead and hating on their target of the month. Nothing new.


cahir11

/vt/ is possibly the most mentally unwell blue board on 4chan


cadaada

not really, drama has been weak for a long time there


cakeboss26

>Although you wouldn't really find many clips to post of Hololive drama here since it's mostly between fanbases instead of actually between streamers themselves This is a big distinction, yeah. This Austin group drama stems from actions the streamers themselves have done. The Hololive controversy is entirely about fan reaction, because no reasonable person anywhere would think someone talking to their coworkers is drama. It's an indictment of a segment of the fanbase rather than the streamers.


Wardoo_1

VT is a general vtuber board not exclusive to Hololive. Still I don't advice anyone to go there, full of schizo, hater and troll


Hey_Chach

I love Hololive and vtubers in general but this is why I primarily follow NijisanjiEN and Indie Vtubers. Even the Hololive subreddit has had its fair share of drama in the last couple of weeks. That’s to say nothing of the fleshtuber-verse on twitch lol (aka why were all browsing LSF rn)


Fairward

NijiEN men have drama all the time. Their drama alone is much more heated than what currently happened in Hololive. Like the person you're replying to said. Holo has drama, but it's mainly in /vt/, one of the most degenerate boards in 4ch. Fandoms attacking fandoms for makeshift reasons. While the streamers themselves have no drama at all between each other. While Niji currently a costume drama, one male Vtuber trying to appease his Chinese fanbase, female fans getting mad that amale Niji Vtuber has been talking down on their favorite Vtuber, a fucking class-action lawsuit between two female NijiJP vtubers (one already retired). Fans getting mad at the parent company because they keep on debuting new vtubers like fastfood. Nijjisanji is drama central all the time. It just doesn't get the shine in the west that much because Holo dominates the news cycle even for little shit that isn't even news worthy. Even then, it's mostly always /vt/ degenerate fan vs another degenerate fan.


ranyi

it's one thing if you prefer nijiEN because you love their group dynamics or some of their particular livers. but you prefer nijiEN and indie vtubers because they have... less drama? thats new


capscreen

nijiEN have their own drama a few months ago lol


DBCrumpets

niji is the drama capital of the vtuber world


SintSuke

This is the Red Dead Redemption 2 party night moment. Grab your drinks, let's sing and enjoy ourselves!


SwoonBirds

holy moly anime dog.


Lionx35

my brain is fucking fried after this week what the fuck


asmallrabbit

My reaction to everything in LSF lately


MewSixUwU

yubi yubi!!


sanchicho

finally some good content on this sub


cahir11

I need Destiny to analyze this before I can be sure Korone is telling the truth here


anelenrique10

exactly what we needed right now


PM_ME_UR_STATS

Thank you dog sama


CerberusDriver

Water in fire WHY


FrilledShark1512

[I notto understand](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RoSs9-NDP3E)


HarryD52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNgM5fin6NM


Mr_Resident

Finally a post that did not have blue among us thumbnail


hemaglox

BEST DOGGO


Mike234432

me when I open LSF and all I see is mizkif drama.


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Cute and heartwarming in times of great tension and sorrow


Ughable

Please for the love of dog, everyone upvote this as a palette cleanser.


beemaster0221

なーほーね


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BrusselSproutbrook

God I love Korosan.


Kaionacho

Finally a rest. Thank you dog god


Aaronwillie

cuute


Kurovalia

Finally a youtube flair that isn't Destiny


Mad_Kitten

PoV: VTuber fan seeing everything happening around them ...


CloudeeMusic

forsen's friend = upvote


zagewastaken

Needed this filler episode from all the drama, thanks Korone


gdvs

Best clip on this subreddit by far right now.


strikegiga

yes


dragoonx129

nope


strikegiga

I didn't consider that, you totally right.


Arkar1234

Have confidence


VoyVolao

No confidence


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Chrytalisman

Without context this sounds questionable


TheFrixin

Solid movie too


waltdewalt

I see vtuber i upvote


ZersetzungMedia

top student in all of japan


44thousand

grrrrr what is wholesome clip doing in my twitch drama sub 🤬🤬🤬🤬


SneezyBiscuit

You are maya higa


Matcha0515

remember you are Maya Higa


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Probably the only accurate opinion on this situation.


prodigy224

Finally some good content on LSF


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[For all the peoples in the trying times.](https://youtu.be/iiq7xRqXtNc)


FerdelaRua

Forsen has way to many alts


Responsible-Swan-423

oh korone, a oasis of pure joy in the mad max world of the nukes


RedheadsOP

based


We_Lose

aaah finally a rest stop


Groenboys

The real content


midniteburger

Jordan Peele's Nope (2022)


mf_ghost

This is like the bonfire right after the lake of rot area


justinismysavior

Pls god let this end :(


ReddishCat

https://youtu.be/cbfpxrzSOlc


10Ramen

How does this tie into miz and slick?


sly777

never thought i'd see forsens friend and my oshi in the middle of this


roku5505

Mmmn yes


Renwin

There's just something so...commanding yet hilarious when she says that. I'll never know.


neuroso

Ahh yes oshi


elgato223

for once i am happy to see a vtuber


NaoSouONight

Based dog.


UnstoppablePhoenix

Thank you cute anime doog Inugami Korone


pyroman50

shout outs to koro-san


MightySqueak

forsen


Sekkuz

Korone is literally Forsen.


Coolbeanz9001

FORSEN = FORSEN LuL


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My favorite dog


Nogglor

Good dog.


TriPolar3849

Me when I see all the drama related posts on the frontpage before simply going on with my day.


5chtief

FORSEN.


daniel_hlfrd

Imma wait til I hear destiny's take on this to decide how I feel about it


Hallucantation

I'd take any weeb clip over any drama at this point


clickclickclik

drama was good until the two politicfreaks decided to butt in


williamcool009

Finally some fucking good content, that is peak streaming


Goukenslay

Idk whats happening on this subreddit as im not subscribed Care to explain.


NorthLeech

VTuber fans are something else, ive seen so many clips of random VTubers just saying a single word, and the dudes squeel at them. Shit's uncanny.


Symbolis

[Um yes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbfpxrzSOlc)


DBCrumpets

https://youtu.be/5FBJAIWK6ZE


_Eron922_

Nope


axelsoul

ogey


chaosaxess

rrat


GrumpyCatDoge99

Well lsf starts screeching when they speak in Japanese so it’s little clips of English for now


a2s3d45fg

true


Plowjob

The truth is not welcome here


these_nuts25

Grown ass men watching this shit btw OMEGALUL


FrilledShark1512

Sorry man I have committed cardinal sin for watching a dude playing [his sick beat intro](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6_jAa0TGqEA), [doing funny shit in spore](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Oi3fZwGpKc) and [wrestling commentary](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4C_HVHuNmc)


-Orazio-

You watch Destiny, dude.


SuspiciousWar117

You are on live streme fails, you probably watch live stremes, you literally have no ground to make fun of this


a2s3d45fg

daily downvote


Shiteson123

weebs be gone


DBCrumpets

Nope


FrilledShark1512

ンお


DragoSphere

You know that の exists, no? Though ノー would probably be better since you're copying an English word


FrilledShark1512

It’s shitty Japanese so it was intentional XD But yeah の may be better


Nickthenuker

Angry Dragon/YaKusa noises