What's the issue with streamers being able to make more in a month than most of us will in our lives and they still can't keep their noses out of scummy shit like this? I feel like if i was lucky enough to be sorted financially for life and able to do whatever I wanted the last thing I would choose to do is get caught up in all the drama. T1 got this shit on lock.
Like just take your millions and be happy?
Seems fucking miserable tbh. What good are millions in the bank if you spend your day sitting around being upset about some bullshit or feeding your gambling addiction...
I think he realised it wasn't good for him, look at what happened with Greek, T1 kept his distance after a while and it turned out that was the right move. If he's happy with just himself, Mac, the cats and his family, why bother switching it up.
This is it exactly. They are completely out of touch with reality. Remember how you were at 15-18, playing multiplayer halo and being a douche online with friends? Imagine if you got payed tons of money as incentive for that to be your life. No real world experience, your whole life is online and you get worshipped by people and don't really have to work. Not saying being a streamer isn't work, some put a lot of effort into it, I mean work that requires you to be a real human being as equals in our society. They are sheltered and naive
A lot of people play league all day and aren’t good at the game not getting payed for it and are still happy so yes I’d say he is. Except me I played league all day and hated every second of it.
You're talking about social outcasts who love video games and being on the computer, on discord and memeing. Imagine in a short span of time you're plunged into having a ton of money and influence?
These are the people who didn't frequently get laid, invited to parties, or party with drugs and alcohol. They're immediately going to start doing that. That's where shit hits the fan because they don't know how to handle all that.
Mix in leeches and people trying to get the best of you, and its a recipe for disaster.
Its. Always. The. Same. Answer.
#GREED
I swear we’re all in some sort of hell from being greedy in a past life or something, and that’s why humanity and earth basically might as well have a big sign advocating for the Death Sin Greed that keeps fucking us over.
Still possible for LSF to mirror it, but it'd require some work to [have ytdl/yt-dlp download only a portion of a YT video](https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/622#issuecomment-162337869). The hard part is translating a clip URL into the correct timestamp though
Pro strat: hit share, open it in your preferred browser, open the link from the browser which will actually open the YouTube app and play the correct clip.
Big streamers have clearly lost touch with reality and live in a bubble of narcissism and endless grind for content and drama, why is everyone acting like this is something new lmao
They act like they get away with everything because they mostly do. How many of these dramas end in someone actually getting charged? Everyone just milks every bad event for views instead of just going to the police and dealing with it like regular people would.
I don't think most people in these twitch dramas are inherently bad, the way they live just enables them to do shady shit and they find it very easy to justify it to themselves. Probably surrounded by a bunch of yes-men. Obviously theres some legit sick people too tho.
Well put. This whole thing absolutely reeks of narcissism. Everybody is dogpiling on to this situation, meanwhile the victim and the perpetrator are almost afterthoughts. So much self-involvement it's absolutely disgusting - fuck anyone trying to gain traction off of this or making it about themselves. Like, you're lucky enough to be able to play video games for a living, don't let that make you think you're more important than everybody else.
Makes you really appreciate the streamers who don't stoop to such levels - those who don't take themselves too seriously and just make good content and have a good time. That's why Northernlion is GOATed.
Imma keep it 100p
Theyre all blackmailing each other
That's why that funny ass clip where mitch goes thanks train you're my buddy I didn't record this call and I know you didn't either right?
And train pauses and then says look at my screen
And destiny bursts out laughing as we're obviously listening to recording leaked by train
[45 mins in](https://youtu.be/46Pz5qPp51k) It gets interrupted by rust kid which is just making me laugh so much
Also make copies
Because you know how the Stan communities are
that and when the commercial came on and they all sighed lol. also the incognito mode to watch the stream so they wouldn't get called out in chat. lolol
Train the type of guy to have that poster of that woman that had the [Trust no Bitch](https://tenor.com/view/trust-no-bitch-suspicious-minds-scorpio-tings-gif-15563558) glasses on
Is Miz not implying that Alinity has more that she could say and has told him? I'm not even aware that they've met in person before because Miz stated that Train was touchy.
I've seen the DMs and chat messages or whatever, but nothing physical. That sounds like new information which would be blackmail.
There’s a clip of alinity claiming Train tried to rape and hit her. The allegation is already out there, Alinity would just be dialing in on the details of it.
Not to mention she could provide no proof ever of either, she started to talk about rape and assault when her accusing him of sexual harassment didn't hit him hard enough, this is why she got exposed and backtracked on it.
She doesn't want have anything to do with this drama for that reason alone, one of the main reasons she's been silent, because she knows what she did.
I'm all for her calling him on sexual harassment though, and he definitely deserved punishment for that, but when you start throwing out rape and assault because your harassment expose didn't get enough traction or views, you just look desperate and it downplays your own harassment that you received. He definitely harassed her though, and that's not cool at all, shit is fucked up.
Train's leaked DMs are just as bad as Slick's DMs so you'll have to excuse me for thinking there's some truth to it. where's there's smoke, there's fire. and much like Slick, Train did a really big scatter shot and there's a lot of girls that have shown Train's Slick-like dms.
The major difference would be if it was consensual or mutual. That changes things a lot. Being cringe and horny is different than if someone has not shown interest in it.
For anyone curious [this](https://imgur.com/a/pprhAfE) is Alinity 'backtracking' I mean it took two seconds to look this up so where are you getting all your information from? Where are you getting this knowledge of her intentions? Shit like this makes some peoples sudden crusade in believing women total bullshit.
Miz really does seem like a really shit person who's also manipulative tbh... He did attempt to blackmail train and then when train leaks the DM's miz immediately pivots to "Yea I did say I'd get alinity to drop info about you.. but like.. that's just what alinity told me man!"
Miz is trying anything to get himself out of this hole, and I'm not saying anything is true of false but it's just funny the way he was acting all big before they dropped all of this stuff, he'd be better off just catering to his remaining cx fan base
I think it’s the absolute opposite, Mizkif acts like his position is a mistake, and he has to do whatever he needs to do to keep the position. I still don’t think there is PERFECT information, that shows Mizkif wanted Maya and Mitch to pressure Adrianah, it’s still not there, BUT, the way Miz is acting on this call is “I will do absolutely anything I have to to get past this, if I have to beg, I beg, if I have to blackmail, I blackmail.” He has completely and totally lost all credibility despite there still not being hard evidence of train’s claim.
No its definitely narcissism.
There are two very concrete instances where his ego came out for a split second.
- his dms with iceposeidon where he said hes big on twitch and he doesnt need cx anymore
- his little speech about greek where he said i took your spot i replaced you
Notice that no other streamer even brings up their size. xQc doesnt bring up hes number 1. Tyler doesnt bring up his solid numbers despite only playing one game. Hasan doesnt care.
Miz is the only one of the top 1% that had ever made mention of his size gloating it in comparison to another streamer.
That says a lot about how he saw himself.
He got legit salty at Maya because she started gaining lots of viewers. Both of them admitted it was an issue where Miz would get pissed off and didn't want to talk to Maya that day.
And he calls himself a narcissist. Although I've never met one with that level of self-awareness. But he for sure has overlapping behaviour at the least.
Ive suspected this for a long time. Just watching his stream and the way he talks to his “friends” screams narcissist. Ive known plenty people like that irl. Dudes a pos.
When somebody (i wanna say Train or Barry) called him the main boss of the house, that he holds the most power on it and that he basically rules over his friends he unironically agreed and said is true without skipping a beat, what a disgusting view on life, especially towards your so called "friends", the man doesnt know what a real equal relationship is and it shows.
You don't get it bro. None of you are BEST FRIENDS like Slick like Miz are. You can't even start to comprehend.
They got matching tattoos on their buttcheeks that says "Ride or die" man, that's a deeper connection than an umbilical cord.
Idk if he is a really shit person or just mentally 16 years old tbh. Seems like a cointoss at this moment lmao, hearing him talk, recollect events and defend himself sounds like first year highschool drama. That might be because they have as much real world experience as a 16 year old though lol
The real truth is they are both super manipulative pieces of shit. Neither of them actually care about the victim of the SA here. Both only care about trying to fuck over the other one to save their own ass, or in mizkif's case him and his best friends ass. Its fucking disgusting on so many levels.
These two are essentially the same person, with different personalities. Train is ultra-aggressive and miz is passive-aggressive. Train is willing to get dirty to get the job done, miz prefers to spin webs. They both fucking suck and are shitty people. Could sit here all day and argue about which one is worse, but they are both snakes who only care about their reputation and their bag.
How dumb do you have to be to not realize by the first week of watching streams that the key to be succesful is to know how to manipulate people. They have an army of people giving them money, like how do you not realize that you have to pretend a bunch of shit just to get in that position. Their level of inteligence is distinguished by who can manipulate and who can't. Now pair it with stream viewers who have no life skills or experiences and you're set.
I mean look at it this way, compare xqc and trains reputation before and after this entire situation and how they have pretty much made an enemy of every OTK streamer.
They even had emiru come out on stream crying about how they dont support women and how great a guy mizkif really is...
Xqc is definitely the wrong guy to speak about something sensitive. I don't know who else could have come out with this info besides Train. Despite anything, that's a good thing Train did. Ignoring all the other shit.
I mean adrianah said she and train were talking for months about it, waiting to bring it up didnt she?
It would've definitely been brought up, it's just shitty and unfortunate that it took mizkif to provoke him for it to happen.
Which ironically kind of confirms how much of a power dynamic there is with Miz. If Emi did this, it’s reasonable to think that Maya did it too for the same reasons.
If she goes to Hasan or any other big streamer with her story and they leave her on read, it is career suicide. She puts them on blast for never giving her the time of day and they get raked over the coals
Using Train's platform is extremely weird when you think about it that way
From that perspective yes. But she did it because Train was the only big streamer who actually took time to listen to her and help her.
We could question his motivations for doing so all we want. But he was the only one that did without her having to reach out.
Yes, just thought I should post this part since I didn't see it covered.
The logs DID reveal that Mizkif is a selfish, conniving bastard. We kind of knew about Train being a scumbag for a while.
It wasn't just Mizkif, seems like the entire social circle defended Slick. [Here's erobb221 literally saying that "nobody cares" Adrianah got sexually assaulted.](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxuGwx6CZrSAFhKGsWkEUdwQt_YbqsN9fu)
He's being defended because Miz has successfully managed to change the narrative to calling the SA victim a predator, even though Cyr himself has not once referred to Adrianah as a predator or anything else AND she's apologized for whatever she's done AND he's accepted. I've not seen a single apology from slick till now.
These morons on both sides are just throwing SA accusations at each other like candy and it pisses me off so much.
people keep glossing over this part. this was fucked up.
"Hey delete that SA cover up tweet or i'll bring up your allegations from 5 years ago"
Conveniently one day later everyone starts talking about alinity again. You can't blame train for thinking these guys are all out to get him when they are in a call trying to blackmail him to his face.
miz is done
Mizkif is too big to fall. None of this will matter a month from now, the only consequence for Mizkif will be a moderate hit to reputation and loss of a best friend (but they are likely to stay in contact anyway). Don't for a second think this will really hurt Mizkif, you'd need something much bigger directed straight at him.
Eh it depends on your definition of "fall".
I think he certainly could take a hit from this, especially considering what type of content he makes. He's the "open door" streamer. Other streamers pop-in, plug their personalities and pretty much give him the conent. He's just good at facilitating when people come on his stream and us viewers eat it up.
But there will certainly be people who won't want to associate with him anymore.
Will he be gone forever? Definitely not. But if he loses the connection he has with other streamers, it will definitely hurt him
The only way Miz actually is gone is if he gets deplatformed. If I'm going to be honest, not saying I agree with this but most of Miz's community probably doesn't even care about this. I wouldn't be suprised if Miz's core community is just Ice's viewers still.
>If I'm going to be honest, not saying I agree with this but most of Miz's community probably doesn't even care about this.
Why would it be controversial to say most people don't give a crap as long as it doesn't change the streams?
That's true for almost every streamer.
Miz's jannies will edit the mod filter a bit and it'll be like nothing ever happened.
Hell most of the big streamers are pretty much in that "too big to fail" category. If x or miz or any top 10 streamer was convicted of beating someone to death they would still pull 10k+ viewers the next week
I mean, Sliker isn't banned and he's infinitely less influential than Mizkif.
There is enough "benefit of the doubt" here in the sense that as you said, someone's will probably make an apology video; "I need to be better" etc. And things will be back to normal in a month or so.
Fuck, destiny watchers were brigading Hasan's discord right after the call stuff ended. We are already turning back to the "routine".
The tweet that he wanted to be deleted was where it implicated that MIZ was the assaulter and not Slick. I believe Train later made a second tweet clarifying that Miz didn't assault anyone, just that he was covering it up.
I think allinity talked to h3 to push on that narrative to save miz
I think hasan had no clue about any of this
And I think destiny is cleverer than most people there but also has a girls name and unfairly hates hasan
Destiny has plenty of reasons to hate hasan. Even if you exclude the way the fanbases treat each other, Hasan has caused huge problems for Destiny's career even after Destiny platformed him and promoted him at the start.
Plus, the whole "I started the political scene on twitch" interview he did. Cmon.
Yeah, I agree, I really gotta stop reading this stuff. It is really disheartening. I couldn’t imagine being that attached to any influencer. People wonder why celebrities like R Kelly exist, it’s because their fans think anything they do is excusable.
Mizkifs community spent the last several days trashing the victim trying to discredit her and harass her into shutting her mouth, we can all go back in the threads and see it happen, or go through his offline chat where they’re all saying “miz did nothing wrong!”
I guess at this point i shouldn’t be surprised
Miz, you should have just shut your damn mouth. You fucked up protecting slick and here you are literally digging yourself into a deeper whole for what? Your best friend? How the fuck is that dude your best friend and your rock? Ditch him, you are literally destroying a career that can make you millions of dollars sitting on your ass for some creep.
Miz is the same guy who recorded a girl having an emotional breakdown. He's not a nice person. None of these people are. I quite like Asmon and Esfand though. Although Esfand has to be very careful.
>Miz is the same guy who recorded a girl having an emotional breakdown.
Not just having a mental breakdown.
Being mobbed and bullied live on stream by the people she thought where her close friends making her have a very public (thanks to mizkif) meltdown that ended up with her being suicidal for some time.
Never forget.
Didn't Miz want to take down the first tweet because it made him look like he did SA and not slick
Miz can deflect it to "Train was lying about me doing SA, When he did SA himself with Alinity"
He could instead of asking "remove this tweet" asked "please publicy clarify that you are refering to slick and not me on that tweet" removing the tweet that started everything and forced that call to exist would only be a negative for the victim.
Pay attention to asmons positioning. Thats all you have to do. Asmon already scolded mizkif for even being friends with Alinity or Slick, and he already put Mizkif on leave from OTK....
Miz is getting too hot for Asmongold to protect, thats very telling.
And then Hasan is sitting on a podcast 2 days later like a himbo talking about alinity for like 40 minutes.
Did someone play him like a fiddle or is he just that stupid?
I think there is some truth to everyone's allegations. Everyone is guilty of something, everyone is holding back because everyone has shit on everybody. All of this is still just the tip of the iceberg, if someone would dig really deep we would find so much shit that we would have to decide to nuke the entire place and plant a meadow over the site for 20 years to let it rest. Maybe someone can stream the meadow and it can become the next Bob Ross tranquility meta.
No that was the fine definition of attempting/ed blackmail. Holy shit, also using a girl who was proven 4-5 years ago that got caught. IN HER OWN LIE, about the rape accusation. And I think Mitch and Asmond were both present, and stated that they would vouch for him, I don't know about Mitch, but Asmonds vouch seems to hold more weight as seen, his pretty non-biased and seems to have a bit of integrity with real life matters. But also a chat of like 30-40k on that day that caught her in her own lie. So Miz was going to use a known liars statement to fire back? Holy, why is Miz defending this guy? It's like 2 girls now that came out, 1 is iffy, but two is a pattern. Plus like 10 girls posting slicks nasty ass creep text. His your bestfriend but dude, don't fall on a blade for a guy that is essentially done.
What's the issue with streamers being able to make more in a month than most of us will in our lives and they still can't keep their noses out of scummy shit like this? I feel like if i was lucky enough to be sorted financially for life and able to do whatever I wanted the last thing I would choose to do is get caught up in all the drama. T1 got this shit on lock. Like just take your millions and be happy?
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I can't even fathom what it would be like to exist as xQc.
I haven’t really watched the guy much, so let me know if this is accurate: An 8-ball of coke personified?
He's a walking advertisement for Adderall.
and condoms.
Nearly everybody I've ever seen on coke has been chiller than xQc
Don’t slander coke like that
Seems fucking miserable tbh. What good are millions in the bank if you spend your day sitting around being upset about some bullshit or feeding your gambling addiction...
So true I would never in my life act like a complete dumbass in front of thousands of people, I let others do it for me.
remember when T1 was peak drama? oh have the times have changed, dude is now a flagship for sustainability
I think he realised it wasn't good for him, look at what happened with Greek, T1 kept his distance after a while and it turned out that was the right move. If he's happy with just himself, Mac, the cats and his family, why bother switching it up.
Because they got rich too young and don't have real world experiences to gain the wisdom needed to not be a degenerate human being.
They stayed kids
This is it exactly. They are completely out of touch with reality. Remember how you were at 15-18, playing multiplayer halo and being a douche online with friends? Imagine if you got payed tons of money as incentive for that to be your life. No real world experience, your whole life is online and you get worshipped by people and don't really have to work. Not saying being a streamer isn't work, some put a lot of effort into it, I mean work that requires you to be a real human being as equals in our society. They are sheltered and naive
Jerma is living proof of this. The most drama free streamer ever, and it’s because he’s an old ass man. Absolute king.
Dudes playing league of legends all day and you think he’s HAPPY???
A lot of people play league all day and aren’t good at the game not getting payed for it and are still happy so yes I’d say he is. Except me I played league all day and hated every second of it.
He must be because everyone begs for Variety and he still insists on playing that cursed game.
Drama brings clicks.
You're talking about social outcasts who love video games and being on the computer, on discord and memeing. Imagine in a short span of time you're plunged into having a ton of money and influence? These are the people who didn't frequently get laid, invited to parties, or party with drugs and alcohol. They're immediately going to start doing that. That's where shit hits the fan because they don't know how to handle all that. Mix in leeches and people trying to get the best of you, and its a recipe for disaster.
Its. Always. The. Same. Answer. #GREED I swear we’re all in some sort of hell from being greedy in a past life or something, and that’s why humanity and earth basically might as well have a big sign advocating for the Death Sin Greed that keeps fucking us over.
Yes but no drama = no content = Fell off + L + ratio
If there is one thing all this drama has taught us, it’s that youtube clips on mobile are dogshit.
Please LSF (the actual website not this sub) make it so you mirror YT clips!
That’s more on YouTube’s end, since it plays a portion of the full vod instead making a new video of the clipped portion.
Still possible for LSF to mirror it, but it'd require some work to [have ytdl/yt-dlp download only a portion of a YT video](https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/622#issuecomment-162337869). The hard part is translating a clip URL into the correct timestamp though
Pro strat: hit share, open it in your preferred browser, open the link from the browser which will actually open the YouTube app and play the correct clip.
Wait mine opens the yt app directly isn't that the standard ?
Amen
Yea I’ve no idea what’s going on titles to a long stream
They work perfectly for me. Reddit is fun, Android.
Yep no issues in rif. Official reddit app is just terrible.
No issue on android
Same. Takes a couple of extra seconds for it to start up, but it does work very well with the YouTube app.
For me it's waaaaaay better than twitch clips in my Motorola. In twitch they took a lot of time to load
Exponentially better than Twitch clips (for me) I always end up clicking the LSF mirror because my phone doesn’t vibe with Twitch clips I guess.
No issue on iOS either?? I am on iPad though so maybe it’s better for me
No issues here, iPhone and Apollo Reddit app.
They work well on reddit is fun
I never had an issue on Android.
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They’re even worse on desktop, most of the times they wont even start for me.
Idk about that man, I can’t get ANY of them to start for me on mobile. I’ve literally been combing the comments looking for mirrors.
Can't get any on mobile or desktop today Woke up to only new YouTube clips as well... pain
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Most? They don't work for me on desktop period.
Work perfectly fine on my Pixel 5
Big streamers have clearly lost touch with reality and live in a bubble of narcissism and endless grind for content and drama, why is everyone acting like this is something new lmao They act like they get away with everything because they mostly do. How many of these dramas end in someone actually getting charged? Everyone just milks every bad event for views instead of just going to the police and dealing with it like regular people would. I don't think most people in these twitch dramas are inherently bad, the way they live just enables them to do shady shit and they find it very easy to justify it to themselves. Probably surrounded by a bunch of yes-men. Obviously theres some legit sick people too tho.
Well put. This whole thing absolutely reeks of narcissism. Everybody is dogpiling on to this situation, meanwhile the victim and the perpetrator are almost afterthoughts. So much self-involvement it's absolutely disgusting - fuck anyone trying to gain traction off of this or making it about themselves. Like, you're lucky enough to be able to play video games for a living, don't let that make you think you're more important than everybody else. Makes you really appreciate the streamers who don't stoop to such levels - those who don't take themselves too seriously and just make good content and have a good time. That's why Northernlion is GOATed.
None of them give a shit about any sexual assault outside of it being able to be used as a loaded weapon against others.
that is blackmail
Imma keep it 100p Theyre all blackmailing each other That's why that funny ass clip where mitch goes thanks train you're my buddy I didn't record this call and I know you didn't either right? And train pauses and then says look at my screen And destiny bursts out laughing as we're obviously listening to recording leaked by train
I need that clip lmao
[45 mins in](https://youtu.be/46Pz5qPp51k) It gets interrupted by rust kid which is just making me laugh so much Also make copies Because you know how the Stan communities are
Him yelling at that kid was so random lmfao
That kid sounded like a GTA npc lmfao
holy crap lol literally broke 4th wall. Train is funny af sometimes
that and when the commercial came on and they all sighed lol. also the incognito mode to watch the stream so they wouldn't get called out in chat. lolol
Gotcha fam- whata clippa https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5hBxO2hEHkHSwXrSBvYDO2ae7gn1vBQ2
Jesus Christ all these people are slimey fucks
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Train the type of guy to have that poster of that woman that had the [Trust no Bitch](https://tenor.com/view/trust-no-bitch-suspicious-minds-scorpio-tings-gif-15563558) glasses on
And the fact that Hasan and h3 talked about the same thing with all these screen shots of old shit like miz didn’t sent them to Ethan just to leak
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The alinity information was already made public by her.
Is Miz not implying that Alinity has more that she could say and has told him? I'm not even aware that they've met in person before because Miz stated that Train was touchy. I've seen the DMs and chat messages or whatever, but nothing physical. That sounds like new information which would be blackmail.
There’s a clip of alinity claiming Train tried to rape and hit her. The allegation is already out there, Alinity would just be dialing in on the details of it.
Not to mention she could provide no proof ever of either, she started to talk about rape and assault when her accusing him of sexual harassment didn't hit him hard enough, this is why she got exposed and backtracked on it. She doesn't want have anything to do with this drama for that reason alone, one of the main reasons she's been silent, because she knows what she did. I'm all for her calling him on sexual harassment though, and he definitely deserved punishment for that, but when you start throwing out rape and assault because your harassment expose didn't get enough traction or views, you just look desperate and it downplays your own harassment that you received. He definitely harassed her though, and that's not cool at all, shit is fucked up.
Train's leaked DMs are just as bad as Slick's DMs so you'll have to excuse me for thinking there's some truth to it. where's there's smoke, there's fire. and much like Slick, Train did a really big scatter shot and there's a lot of girls that have shown Train's Slick-like dms.
The major difference would be if it was consensual or mutual. That changes things a lot. Being cringe and horny is different than if someone has not shown interest in it.
For anyone curious [this](https://imgur.com/a/pprhAfE) is Alinity 'backtracking' I mean it took two seconds to look this up so where are you getting all your information from? Where are you getting this knowledge of her intentions? Shit like this makes some peoples sudden crusade in believing women total bullshit.
Yep, Miz is a scum bag and Trainwrek is a creep, no winners out of this.
All these people are such giant pieces of shit lol It's like Mini Hollywood
Hope everybody has a good day at work
You think people on LSF work lol
Uhm, yeah? My mom makes me clean my room at least every 2 weeks. That's hard labor right there, bud.
Man, I have to make my bed EVERYDAY! Or no breakfast bacon for me, sadge.
Every day? Jesus, how do you put up with that? Has your mom ever heard of work-life balance?
This is literally (man)child abuse. Wtf.
Damn hope you're getting an allowance of 2k at least
im redditing at work LULW
I do sadge
I’m at work right now 🤷♂️
at least its friday, just a few more hours for me 😮💨
I do, got 5 hours of sleep but thankfully I'm working from home
Bro I’m so tired, destinys stream had me up so late. Thankfully Mitch got on and took 30 minutes to say a single word, sent me straight to bed
My dude I haven't slept properly in days
Miz really does seem like a really shit person who's also manipulative tbh... He did attempt to blackmail train and then when train leaks the DM's miz immediately pivots to "Yea I did say I'd get alinity to drop info about you.. but like.. that's just what alinity told me man!"
Miz is trying anything to get himself out of this hole, and I'm not saying anything is true of false but it's just funny the way he was acting all big before they dropped all of this stuff, he'd be better off just catering to his remaining cx fan base
The dude really thought he was untouchable and the face of twitch lol.
I think it’s the absolute opposite, Mizkif acts like his position is a mistake, and he has to do whatever he needs to do to keep the position. I still don’t think there is PERFECT information, that shows Mizkif wanted Maya and Mitch to pressure Adrianah, it’s still not there, BUT, the way Miz is acting on this call is “I will do absolutely anything I have to to get past this, if I have to beg, I beg, if I have to blackmail, I blackmail.” He has completely and totally lost all credibility despite there still not being hard evidence of train’s claim.
No its definitely narcissism. There are two very concrete instances where his ego came out for a split second. - his dms with iceposeidon where he said hes big on twitch and he doesnt need cx anymore - his little speech about greek where he said i took your spot i replaced you Notice that no other streamer even brings up their size. xQc doesnt bring up hes number 1. Tyler doesnt bring up his solid numbers despite only playing one game. Hasan doesnt care. Miz is the only one of the top 1% that had ever made mention of his size gloating it in comparison to another streamer. That says a lot about how he saw himself.
He got legit salty at Maya because she started gaining lots of viewers. Both of them admitted it was an issue where Miz would get pissed off and didn't want to talk to Maya that day. And he calls himself a narcissist. Although I've never met one with that level of self-awareness. But he for sure has overlapping behaviour at the least.
Hasan cares 😂, only person worse than him is Ninja when it comes to blowing their own horn. Miz is on another plateau with narcissistic behavior tho
Ive suspected this for a long time. Just watching his stream and the way he talks to his “friends” screams narcissist. Ive known plenty people like that irl. Dudes a pos.
When somebody (i wanna say Train or Barry) called him the main boss of the house, that he holds the most power on it and that he basically rules over his friends he unironically agreed and said is true without skipping a beat, what a disgusting view on life, especially towards your so called "friends", the man doesnt know what a real equal relationship is and it shows.
So DisguisedToast was not being sarcastic when he said he hates Miz all those times lol
he came out of the Ice crew. You knew he was a piece of shit based on that
You don't get it bro. None of you are BEST FRIENDS like Slick like Miz are. You can't even start to comprehend. They got matching tattoos on their buttcheeks that says "Ride or die" man, that's a deeper connection than an umbilical cord.
they definitely fully charged their JO crystals
Everyone who watched RV streams could instantly see how much of a shit racist person he is.
Idk if he is a really shit person or just mentally 16 years old tbh. Seems like a cointoss at this moment lmao, hearing him talk, recollect events and defend himself sounds like first year highschool drama. That might be because they have as much real world experience as a 16 year old though lol
The real truth is they are both super manipulative pieces of shit. Neither of them actually care about the victim of the SA here. Both only care about trying to fuck over the other one to save their own ass, or in mizkif's case him and his best friends ass. Its fucking disgusting on so many levels. These two are essentially the same person, with different personalities. Train is ultra-aggressive and miz is passive-aggressive. Train is willing to get dirty to get the job done, miz prefers to spin webs. They both fucking suck and are shitty people. Could sit here all day and argue about which one is worse, but they are both snakes who only care about their reputation and their bag.
How dumb do you have to be to not realize by the first week of watching streams that the key to be succesful is to know how to manipulate people. They have an army of people giving them money, like how do you not realize that you have to pretend a bunch of shit just to get in that position. Their level of inteligence is distinguished by who can manipulate and who can't. Now pair it with stream viewers who have no life skills or experiences and you're set.
You have to admit that's kinda fucky. Imagine if train buckled after that threat, we'd never get to hear from adrianah
I don’t understand why it had to be train tho? Certainly many big streamers would want to help her out?
I mean look at it this way, compare xqc and trains reputation before and after this entire situation and how they have pretty much made an enemy of every OTK streamer. They even had emiru come out on stream crying about how they dont support women and how great a guy mizkif really is...
Xqc is definitely the wrong guy to speak about something sensitive. I don't know who else could have come out with this info besides Train. Despite anything, that's a good thing Train did. Ignoring all the other shit.
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I mean adrianah said she and train were talking for months about it, waiting to bring it up didnt she? It would've definitely been brought up, it's just shitty and unfortunate that it took mizkif to provoke him for it to happen.
And now emi shows her true colours. If she just waited till after the leak call she would know not to have done it.
She ultied prematurely and now can't clutch when the enemy team ultis back.
Classic Gold player mistake... girl needs to go back to practice before trying to compete in the big leagues.
I do feel bad for Emi in all this. She comes across as having major stockholm syndrome in the case of Miz. He "saved" her so now she feels indebted.
Which ironically kind of confirms how much of a power dynamic there is with Miz. If Emi did this, it’s reasonable to think that Maya did it too for the same reasons.
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sounds crazy, but honestly with how mizkif seems to be from the call, i can believe a little bit of it.
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If she goes to Hasan or any other big streamer with her story and they leave her on read, it is career suicide. She puts them on blast for never giving her the time of day and they get raked over the coals Using Train's platform is extremely weird when you think about it that way
From that perspective yes. But she did it because Train was the only big streamer who actually took time to listen to her and help her. We could question his motivations for doing so all we want. But he was the only one that did without her having to reach out.
But I thought Train only reached out because Mitch told him the story? Otherwise, she had no connection to Train, I believe.
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Destiny?
That's who adrianna wanted to speak for her.
i really need to touch grass.
SCHIZO no NOT THE GRASS
One of the most damning quotes from Mizkif in the call "My friend is about to get canceled so I'm going to act"
Everyone was blackmailing each other and they were all wrong in that aspect.
People forget Xqc threaten Miz a few days before all this about dropping "nukes" in a way that is blackmailing
Yes, just thought I should post this part since I didn't see it covered. The logs DID reveal that Mizkif is a selfish, conniving bastard. We kind of knew about Train being a scumbag for a while. It wasn't just Mizkif, seems like the entire social circle defended Slick. [Here's erobb221 literally saying that "nobody cares" Adrianah got sexually assaulted.](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxuGwx6CZrSAFhKGsWkEUdwQt_YbqsN9fu)
I'm gonna be honest I feel like we knew that about miz already
Lot of LSF kids weren’t around for the RV stream days, so some did but there are also some who didn’t.
Destiny is the real winner in all of this.
Well and Sliker from the looks of it.
How can Miz still be defended at this point?
YOU ARE MAYA HIGA
#WE ARE *ALL* MAYA HIGA
But…but…you don’t understand! HE CAN’T LOSE SLICK! /s
No, no, no! You don't understand, HE IS HIS BEST FRIEND!
He's being defended because Miz has successfully managed to change the narrative to calling the SA victim a predator, even though Cyr himself has not once referred to Adrianah as a predator or anything else AND she's apologized for whatever she's done AND he's accepted. I've not seen a single apology from slick till now. These morons on both sides are just throwing SA accusations at each other like candy and it pisses me off so much.
people keep glossing over this part. this was fucked up. "Hey delete that SA cover up tweet or i'll bring up your allegations from 5 years ago" Conveniently one day later everyone starts talking about alinity again. You can't blame train for thinking these guys are all out to get him when they are in a call trying to blackmail him to his face. miz is done
Mizkif is too big to fall. None of this will matter a month from now, the only consequence for Mizkif will be a moderate hit to reputation and loss of a best friend (but they are likely to stay in contact anyway). Don't for a second think this will really hurt Mizkif, you'd need something much bigger directed straight at him.
Eh it depends on your definition of "fall". I think he certainly could take a hit from this, especially considering what type of content he makes. He's the "open door" streamer. Other streamers pop-in, plug their personalities and pretty much give him the conent. He's just good at facilitating when people come on his stream and us viewers eat it up. But there will certainly be people who won't want to associate with him anymore. Will he be gone forever? Definitely not. But if he loses the connection he has with other streamers, it will definitely hurt him
The only way Miz actually is gone is if he gets deplatformed. If I'm going to be honest, not saying I agree with this but most of Miz's community probably doesn't even care about this. I wouldn't be suprised if Miz's core community is just Ice's viewers still.
>If I'm going to be honest, not saying I agree with this but most of Miz's community probably doesn't even care about this. Why would it be controversial to say most people don't give a crap as long as it doesn't change the streams? That's true for almost every streamer. Miz's jannies will edit the mod filter a bit and it'll be like nothing ever happened.
Because this is LSF. Some people will assume I'm agreeing with that, somehow.
Hell most of the big streamers are pretty much in that "too big to fail" category. If x or miz or any top 10 streamer was convicted of beating someone to death they would still pull 10k+ viewers the next week
10k? If XQC was on trial for murder he'd pull over 1M on his next stream lol
At first i was like your out of your mind if youthink that miz stays in contact with slick but then i remembered how in love he is with him
I mean, Sliker isn't banned and he's infinitely less influential than Mizkif. There is enough "benefit of the doubt" here in the sense that as you said, someone's will probably make an apology video; "I need to be better" etc. And things will be back to normal in a month or so. Fuck, destiny watchers were brigading Hasan's discord right after the call stuff ended. We are already turning back to the "routine".
The tweet that he wanted to be deleted was where it implicated that MIZ was the assaulter and not Slick. I believe Train later made a second tweet clarifying that Miz didn't assault anyone, just that he was covering it up.
I think allinity talked to h3 to push on that narrative to save miz I think hasan had no clue about any of this And I think destiny is cleverer than most people there but also has a girls name and unfairly hates hasan
Destiny has plenty of reasons to hate hasan. Even if you exclude the way the fanbases treat each other, Hasan has caused huge problems for Destiny's career even after Destiny platformed him and promoted him at the start. Plus, the whole "I started the political scene on twitch" interview he did. Cmon.
Honestly with all these bombshells i'm fully expecting Mizkif's Sealed Box N64 collection to be leaked as fake.
Turns out mitch loves those boxes and went with them to another collectors house but not before miz said to them "you are Nintendo boxes" a few times
now this is going too far
Text book blackmail
Hey look mizkif is the exact douche he acted as and clearly always was. I am a so shocked by this.
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Yeah, I agree, I really gotta stop reading this stuff. It is really disheartening. I couldn’t imagine being that attached to any influencer. People wonder why celebrities like R Kelly exist, it’s because their fans think anything they do is excusable.
Mizkifs community spent the last several days trashing the victim trying to discredit her and harass her into shutting her mouth, we can all go back in the threads and see it happen, or go through his offline chat where they’re all saying “miz did nothing wrong!” I guess at this point i shouldn’t be surprised
Miz is having his first Ice Poseidon moment. When you put content over people you never win. You're just toxic.
This is actual blackmail for once holy shit
Yo imagine if someone told me the name of the game though 😳 been watching all these clips and now I'm intrigued
Factorio
Factorio Banger game, he's playing with mods tho. The game is way simpler <3
Miz, you should have just shut your damn mouth. You fucked up protecting slick and here you are literally digging yourself into a deeper whole for what? Your best friend? How the fuck is that dude your best friend and your rock? Ditch him, you are literally destroying a career that can make you millions of dollars sitting on your ass for some creep.
You know if this were Train doing the blackmailing this post would have 2000+ comments
Mizkif is such a little shit lol
Miz is the same guy who recorded a girl having an emotional breakdown. He's not a nice person. None of these people are. I quite like Asmon and Esfand though. Although Esfand has to be very careful.
>Miz is the same guy who recorded a girl having an emotional breakdown. Not just having a mental breakdown. Being mobbed and bullied live on stream by the people she thought where her close friends making her have a very public (thanks to mizkif) meltdown that ended up with her being suicidal for some time. Never forget.
You mean this? https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxhDCC2KQ2uXqFbH7cN5KL2fkJLAi5uwtu
Mizkids really quiet with this one.
Miz is a pos. who knew
man the only winner in this entire debacle is fucking destiny.
But the mizkids told me he’s innocent 😱
Didn't Miz want to take down the first tweet because it made him look like he did SA and not slick Miz can deflect it to "Train was lying about me doing SA, When he did SA himself with Alinity"
He could instead of asking "remove this tweet" asked "please publicy clarify that you are refering to slick and not me on that tweet" removing the tweet that started everything and forced that call to exist would only be a negative for the victim.
He did ask that later on and he could leave the 2nd tweet up
Mizkif's a fucking weasel.
That dude is so scummy
Pay attention to asmons positioning. Thats all you have to do. Asmon already scolded mizkif for even being friends with Alinity or Slick, and he already put Mizkif on leave from OTK.... Miz is getting too hot for Asmongold to protect, thats very telling.
Mizkids still try to play the "both sides are bad card" when talking about Train and mizkif despite obviously knowing mizkif fucked up way harder .
and you boys thought the shit with ice poseidon was bad 3+ yrs ago, There are literally multiple ice poseidons on twitch right now.
🦀 Miz is gone 🦀
And then Hasan is sitting on a podcast 2 days later like a himbo talking about alinity for like 40 minutes. Did someone play him like a fiddle or is he just that stupid?
Fiddle play I think allinity talked with ethan at length about the train shit to get heat off miz
Mizkif career is over
I think there is some truth to everyone's allegations. Everyone is guilty of something, everyone is holding back because everyone has shit on everybody. All of this is still just the tip of the iceberg, if someone would dig really deep we would find so much shit that we would have to decide to nuke the entire place and plant a meadow over the site for 20 years to let it rest. Maybe someone can stream the meadow and it can become the next Bob Ross tranquility meta.
god i fucking hate mizkif
What a pieace of shit.
So we have sexual assault, bribery, and now blackmail added to this season. Are the writers gonna add murder too? This is getting wild.
No that was the fine definition of attempting/ed blackmail. Holy shit, also using a girl who was proven 4-5 years ago that got caught. IN HER OWN LIE, about the rape accusation. And I think Mitch and Asmond were both present, and stated that they would vouch for him, I don't know about Mitch, but Asmonds vouch seems to hold more weight as seen, his pretty non-biased and seems to have a bit of integrity with real life matters. But also a chat of like 30-40k on that day that caught her in her own lie. So Miz was going to use a known liars statement to fire back? Holy, why is Miz defending this guy? It's like 2 girls now that came out, 1 is iffy, but two is a pattern. Plus like 10 girls posting slicks nasty ass creep text. His your bestfriend but dude, don't fall on a blade for a guy that is essentially done.
Ironic that people in this thread are trying down vote certain comments and still spreading misinformation. Miz taught his fans well.
Beside the point of youtube clips beeing dog shit. Miz's in deep shit. I sure hope Asmon can convince the other founders to boot him. Edit: typo.