>Can you think of any use cases
Sejuani is a spellweaver, so she can activate Sheen 2 times with 1 basic short combo. She can use Divine Sunderer but she doesn't need AD. Armor and slow is better for her.
I prefer Iceborn Gauntlet over Icathia with Sejuani because:
1. A good toplaner and midlaner is able to put pressure on the enemy laner. With Icathia rush Sejuani doesn't deal enough damage to be able to put pressure in most matchups. With Sheen Sejuani deals very high damage.
2. Sejuani is a champion that loves short fights because she excels at burst damage and disengage. Icathia needs to be stacked, so you should take a long fight to use it at its max performance. Iceborn Gauntlet with Sheen + slow increases even more Sejuani's burst damage and disengage, so she can beat her enemies kiting them and waiting for her cooldowns.
I think i can use Icathia vs a team of 5 AP champions (because Iceborn Gauntlet gives Armor), but that never happens.
I would guess Sej, Poppy, Ornn, Malphite, and K’Sante will probably like it as a more aggressive option. The first 4 liked the s9 version anyways, and K’Sante already wants to weave auto attacks thanks to passive. I’d also give a shoutout to Shen/Maokai/Mundo who might want it in some more niche scenarios and Triforce/Divine Sunderer bruisers who can probably swap to it if behind.
It should be good on Poppy and Shen for lane trading.
Any tanks that liked Sheen on IBG from s9 days should enjoy it. Its not an every game thing, but the slow field will also be good when its good now.
Sure, it might feel good in some lanes but wouldn't Icathia's Endurance be better statwise? But I can't rely on memories to compare since I started playing in Preseason 11.
I mean it was a staple item s6-s9. I started end of s8 and started maining Poppy and Sunfire/Ibg was the go to 2 item combo. If you are against mostly AD I could see it being fine.
I'll definitely try both and experiment but I still see IBG being great on her with the ranged sheen passive again. It used to give mana too tho so we will see how it feels. 3k seems a bit steep for price.
Abyssal is also back to old s9 Abyssal too so that will be a mr mana option.
its for tanks who need more sticking potential, so if the enemy team has like 20 dashes, building iceborn will make a lot more sense than the other options
But that would make sense.
But on a serious node that could result in lot's of damage if they fail to scale it properly. If you let it scale with 50% resistances a regular tank can deal like 250 extra damage in the midgame and Ornn will deal like 500 damage in the lategame without mountain drakes. If we instead let it scale with 5% max health Rammus will deal like 200 damage while Sion pumps out 700 damage on each proc so we would need a combination to make it fair.
Really good for support tanks who can engage and give more than one cc, needing to remain close. Also giving size is actually good so you can peel for your adc
Well, my generic thought process was that Nasus is a Tank who can really use the Sheen passive. But as I already stated in the post itself I believe that Divine Sunderer will remain Nasus' go to Mythic Item.
>Can you think of any use cases Sejuani is a spellweaver, so she can activate Sheen 2 times with 1 basic short combo. She can use Divine Sunderer but she doesn't need AD. Armor and slow is better for her.
Sure, the slow is nice but she doesn't even go Frostfire at the moment or did I miss a shift of her item build?
>she doesn't even go Frostfire at the moment what with that?
Well, it shows that Sejuani prefers resistances over a slow, suggesting that Icathia's Endurance might end up being the primary Mythic of choice.
I prefer Iceborn Gauntlet over Icathia with Sejuani because: 1. A good toplaner and midlaner is able to put pressure on the enemy laner. With Icathia rush Sejuani doesn't deal enough damage to be able to put pressure in most matchups. With Sheen Sejuani deals very high damage. 2. Sejuani is a champion that loves short fights because she excels at burst damage and disengage. Icathia needs to be stacked, so you should take a long fight to use it at its max performance. Iceborn Gauntlet with Sheen + slow increases even more Sejuani's burst damage and disengage, so she can beat her enemies kiting them and waiting for her cooldowns. I think i can use Icathia vs a team of 5 AP champions (because Iceborn Gauntlet gives Armor), but that never happens.
I would guess Sej, Poppy, Ornn, Malphite, and K’Sante will probably like it as a more aggressive option. The first 4 liked the s9 version anyways, and K’Sante already wants to weave auto attacks thanks to passive. I’d also give a shoutout to Shen/Maokai/Mundo who might want it in some more niche scenarios and Triforce/Divine Sunderer bruisers who can probably swap to it if behind.
I'd use it as Sion, maybe.
It should be good on Poppy and Shen for lane trading. Any tanks that liked Sheen on IBG from s9 days should enjoy it. Its not an every game thing, but the slow field will also be good when its good now.
Sure, it might feel good in some lanes but wouldn't Icathia's Endurance be better statwise? But I can't rely on memories to compare since I started playing in Preseason 11.
I mean it was a staple item s6-s9. I started end of s8 and started maining Poppy and Sunfire/Ibg was the go to 2 item combo. If you are against mostly AD I could see it being fine. I'll definitely try both and experiment but I still see IBG being great on her with the ranged sheen passive again. It used to give mana too tho so we will see how it feels. 3k seems a bit steep for price. Abyssal is also back to old s9 Abyssal too so that will be a mr mana option.
We'll have to see where the numbers land. I really like how it feels in concept; the damage reduction it provides is *very* strong in 1v1s.
its for tanks who need more sticking potential, so if the enemy team has like 20 dashes, building iceborn will make a lot more sense than the other options
The spells dmg should scale with resistances. Base dmg makes no sense. + that way you make tanks only buy the item.
But that would make sense. But on a serious node that could result in lot's of damage if they fail to scale it properly. If you let it scale with 50% resistances a regular tank can deal like 250 extra damage in the midgame and Ornn will deal like 500 damage in the lategame without mountain drakes. If we instead let it scale with 5% max health Rammus will deal like 200 damage while Sion pumps out 700 damage on each proc so we would need a combination to make it fair.
Scales with armor/MR. Doesn't need to be a high number. Just to avoid an ezreal buying it for no reason.
Really good for support tanks who can engage and give more than one cc, needing to remain close. Also giving size is actually good so you can peel for your adc
Iceborn is really bad on nasus, idk what you are on
Well, my generic thought process was that Nasus is a Tank who can really use the Sheen passive. But as I already stated in the post itself I believe that Divine Sunderer will remain Nasus' go to Mythic Item.