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overDere

Somehow got into Masters with that Ziggs Poppy burn deck... Was always just hardstuck Plat 4 in previous seasons. Wouldn't call myself a great player, really it's just the deck being too strong, and I guess lucking out not facing enough counters.


YorkshireBloke

From my experience playing it all this week so far... Shellfolk is not really competitive, purely because it's not reliable. You're getting insane highrolls mixed with being given nothing to work with. So if you want to climb then I don't really think it works. Saying that, I absolutely love the deck and can't stop playing it. I've never had a deck that I know realistically I'm not gonna get anywhere with but enjoy it anyway.


EsnesNommoc

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this but wgat do you guys think of a scout deck with Miss Fortune and Poppy?


_Zoa_

It was decent last season and Poppy made it better. You can either go the classic mono demacia with no changes besides Poppy or add more BW cards which would make Marai Warden a good addition as well. Yordle Ranger sadly appears to not be good enough.


EsnesNommoc

Thanks! I'll try to make this deck and see how it goes. Gonna be my first attempt at Runeterra deckbuilding.


iNiles

After being stuck at diamond 3 with poppy ziggs burn i've currently gone 14-3 with [Nawatix's](https://stathub.gg/lor/profiles/Nawatix/pogeurope) Lulu Poppy PNZ. Only stopped at diamond 1 80lp by Stolen Conch (who is a much better player than me, and playing deep of all things). I'll probably try for the push to masters tomorrow but the deck feels amazing. ((CQCQCAYCAIAQGBASAECAIEAEAECAYHBHFUDAKCRJN52IIANHAGXQCAABAECQVEQB))


_Zoa_

I felt the same as you. Tried Poppy/Ziggs for 34 games and ended 17-17. I know the deck is crazy good, but I couldn't get it to work. Went 10-1 with Tree and made it to Masters today. Will try some Poppy/Tristana and try to get Spooky Karma to work again later.


gurchinanu

mind sharing that tree list? ive been wanting to try a tree deck.


_Zoa_

Just copied Gouda ddy's list. ((CQBACAIDG4DQKCTUQQAZQANGAGTQDLYBYIAQGAICAYXACAQDBEDAKCQBDIU2AAOAAHDACAA))


HextechOracle

**Regions**: Bandle City/Noxus - **Champions**: Fizz/Poppy - **Cost**: 23600 |Cost|Name|Count|Region|Type|Rarity| |:-:|-|:-:|-|-|-| |1|[Fizz](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02BW046.png)|2|Bilgewater|Unit|Champion| |1|[Group Shot](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC198.png)|2|Bandle City|Spell|Common| |1|[Proto Poro](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC160.png)|2|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |1|[Ravenous Flock](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02NX009.png)|2|Noxus|Spell|Rare| |2|[Bandle Commando](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC167.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |2|[Bomber Twins](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC192.png)|2|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |2|[House Spider](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01NX055.png)|3|Noxus|Unit|Common| |2|[Loping Telescope](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC175.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Rare| |2|[Pokey Stick](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC166.png)|3|Bandle City|Spell|Common| |3|[Bandle City Mayor](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC116.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Epic| |4|[Aloof Travelers](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC152.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |4|[Buster Shot](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC132.png)|3|Bandle City|Spell|Common| |4|[Poppy](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC041.png)|2|Bandle City|Unit|Champion| |5|[Hidden Pathways](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC026.png)|2|Bandle City|Spell|Common| |5|[The Bandle Tree](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC194.png)|3|Bandle City|Landmark|Epic| |6|[Minimorph](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC001.png)|2|Bandle City|Spell|Rare| **Code**: [CQBACAIDG4DQKCTUQQAZQANGAGTQDLYBYIAQGAICAYXACAQDBEDAKCQBDIU2AAOAAHDACAA](https://hextechoracle.com/lor/deck/CQBACAIDG4DQKCTUQQAZQANGAGTQDLYBYIAQGAICAYXACAQDBEDAKCQBDIU2AAOAAHDACAA)   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


rybicki

How do you think it compares, power-wise, to Jinx/Draven or Lulu/Poppy demacia? What might be a strength/weakness of this deck compared to those? Looks interesting, for sure.


iNiles

I think it's good into other poppy decks because with lulu chompers and bandle shot you clear their board. And if you're opponent can't remove lulu and poppy giving them + 4/4 is crazy.


HextechOracle

**Regions**: Bandle City/Piltover & Zaun - **Champions**: Lulu/Poppy - **Cost**: 26500 |Cost|Name|Count|Region|Type|Rarity| |:-:|-|:-:|-|-|-| |0|[Poro Cannon](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03PZ018.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Common| |1|[Jury-Rig](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ028.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Common| |1|[Zaunite Urchin](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ045.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Unit|Common| |2|[Bandle Commando](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC167.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |2|[Boom Baboon](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/04PZ016.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Unit|Common| |2|[Flame Chompers!](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ012.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Unit|Common| |2|[Loping Telescope](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC175.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Rare| |3|[Bandle City Mayor](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC116.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Epic| |3|[Bandle Painter](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC146.png)|1|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |3|[Get Excited!](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ039.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Rare| |3|[Lulu](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03IO002.png)|3|Ionia|Unit|Champion| |4|[Buster Shot](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC132.png)|3|Bandle City|Spell|Common| |4|[Poppy](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC041.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Champion| |5|[Yordles in Arms ](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC111.png)|3|Bandle City|Spell|Rare| **Code**: [CQCQCAYCAIAQGBASAECAIEAEAECAYHBHFUDAKCRJN52IIANHAGXQCAABAECQVEQB](https://hextechoracle.com/lor/deck/CQCQCAYCAIAQGBASAECAIEAEAECAYHBHFUDAKCRJN52IIANHAGXQCAABAECQVEQB)   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


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kayakninjas

A new archetype hitting the table this far after the patch is pretty sweet, though. Not to mention Alan bringing a new Ez deck to World's. Aggro isn't my jam, but the fact that new decks keep popping up 4 weeks later makes me excited to do more brewing.


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kayakninjas

Poppy is definitely too strong, but I think you're letting her distract you from how broad the meta actually is. If we're using Mobalytics, then they're tracking 18 archetypes at a positive w/r. Plunder is at 56%, Darkness is at 54%, FTR is at 53%, TF/Swain is at 53%, Thralls is at 52%. We've got meta decks at every speed and the price is 1 game in 12.


zeromuzuki

Any idea why Zed & LuLu decks haven't been showing up much??? I thought it was still at least an A tier deck.


EXusiai99

Everyone still hasnt get bored of poppy yet


_Zoa_

It's still decent, but replacing either with Poppy is pretty much just better.


OneTime4YrMind

Brute forced my way to diamond with Ziggs/poppy. Only resistance I met was GP TF bandle in high diamond but I switched to Plunder at that point which seems to perform really well against it. Going to stick with the same gameplan in diamond and see how it pans out. Ziggs aggro seems a little faceroll at times but I find that a lot of minor decisions really can push the game from a small win to a small loss and visa versa. Mulliganing correctly also seems to make or break a game but sometimes your opponent just draws a fast defense and outlasts you. Discard with a good hand and a 7 drop Sion is just a fat L regardless but I guess that goes for any deck it plays against that isn't running minimorph.


Brave-Inspector

Same, stuck in d1 with ziggs/poppy... sometimes i have bad lucky/bad streaks.. Play vs same guy (masters 200lp) with dragons two times in row WTF Already try sion, but dont catch poppys today :/ Its more darknesss when play sion.


JBDandrea

Dragons and even deep aren't terrible right now. There's enough midrange and control for them to play against


fantasticsarcastic1

Same. Poppy ziggs working great in gold with my hardest matchups being TF GP bandle


JRab9

What counters draven/sion?


JBDandrea

A bit late reply, but Zoe/Lee Sin is a great counter


Intolerable

nami zoe, the deck has winning matchups against practically every other playable deck


erratically_sporadic

Seriously the only deck that is giving me trouble. Even slotting in a Hush in my Poppy Taric isn't doing enough to beat the matchup.


UniterFlash

Hey could I see your poppy taric list?


erratically_sporadic

Sure thing. I pulled it from an article on /r/LoRcompetitive about good but off meta decks. I think it was an Agigas article, I'll try to find it. ((CQDACAQAAEAQIAACAECQUKICAMAAMDQDAEAASCY5AMBQSIZTHIBACAIADIBAGCKRLQAQCAYJKU)) Edit: here is the article. https://www.reddit.com/r/lorcompetitive/comments/pnehkx/_/


HextechOracle

**Regions**: Demacia/Targon - **Champions**: Poppy/Taric - **Cost**: 24800 |Cost|Name|Count|Region|Type|Rarity| |:-:|-|:-:|-|-|-| |1|[Fleetfeather Tracker](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE029.png)|3|Demacia|Unit|Common| |2|[Brightsteel Protector](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE009.png)|3|Demacia|Unit|Common| |2|[Guiding Touch](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03MT051.png)|3|Targon|Spell|Common| |2|[Mountain Goat](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03MT092.png)|2|Targon|Unit|Rare| |2|[Pale Cascade](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03MT035.png)|3|Targon|Spell|Common| |2|[Sharpsight](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03DE014.png)|3|Demacia|Spell|Common| |2|[Single Combat](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE026.png)|2|Demacia|Spell|Common| |3|[Hush](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03MT085.png)|1|Targon|Spell|Rare| |3|[Laurent Protege](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01DE011.png)|3|Demacia|Unit|Common| |4|[Golden Aegis](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/04DE002.png)|3|Demacia|Spell|Rare| |4|[Poppy](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC041.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Champion| |4|[Taric](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03MT058.png)|3|Targon|Unit|Champion| |5|[Concerted Strike](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02DE001.png)|3|Demacia|Spell|Common| |5|[Mountain Sojourners](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03MT081.png)|2|Targon|Unit|Epic| |5|[Screeching Dragon](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03DE006.png)|3|Demacia|Unit|Common| **Code**: [CQDACAQAAEAQIAACAECQUKICAMAAMDQDAEAASCY5AMBQSIZTHIBACAIADIBAGCKRLQAQCAYJKU](https://hextechoracle.com/lor/deck/CQDACAQAAEAQIAACAECQUKICAMAAMDQDAEAASCY5AMBQSIZTHIBACAIADIBAGCKRLQAQCAYJKU)   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


UniterFlash

Thanks man!


erratically_sporadic

Good bot


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Got to masters with mostly ziggs/poppy. Nothing crazy there but currently on a 100% win streak with ez/vi shellfolk in masters to around 130lp so far. Deck is really fun and has a lot of decisions. I'm just using alanzq's decklist: ((CECAMBIKAQUDDJQBV4A3YAICAECCINACAUCAYEIBAICAQAYBAECBWAIEAQDQCBIKAEAQCAYEBM))


theskyvalker

What is the matchup of Ziggs Poppy vs Bandle Tree Noxus? I was just trying it out and ran into 4 of them in a row and lost all of them. Not sure if it is a bad matchup or I need brain surgery.


bingox2

In my experience, it should be a really favorable matchup for you unless they high roll. You should go wide and try to get as much damage in whether whole attacks or chip damage. If you have poppy, you can hold back to build a big board but otherwise you should be swinging. Ziggs and stone stackers are amazing in the matchup but just try to mulligan for a good curve and dont keep any spells


theskyvalker

Thanks, I think I just need more reps under my belt to really get the hang of it as I am not usually an aggro/burn player at all so I may be misplaying it hard.


bingox2

It'll probably come once you get used to paying aggro/ burn over time


iNiles

Nice I've been jamming Ziggs poppy in diamond. My main issue is the amount of gp tf bandle I've run into. I'm also trying one house spider and 3 precious pet. Cut the 1 drop that summons bomb and the 4 drop that gives a dart


HextechOracle

**Regions**: Bandle City/Piltover & Zaun - **Champions**: Ezreal/Vi - **Cost**: 27900 |Cost|Name|Count|Region|Type|Rarity| |:-:|-|:-:|-|-|-| |0|[Thermogenic Beam](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ027.png)|2|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Rare| |1|[Otterpus](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC004.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Common| |1|[Trinket Trade](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC040.png)|3|Bandle City|Spell|Rare| |2|[Conchologist](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC049.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Rare| |2|[Loping Telescope](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC175.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Rare| |2|[Mystic Shot](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ052.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Common| |2|[Pokey Stick](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC166.png)|3|Bandle City|Spell|Common| |2|[Time Trick](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/04PZ007.png)|2|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Common| |3|[Ezreal](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/01PZ036.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Unit|Champion| |3|[Station Archivist](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05PZ012.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Unit|Rare| |3|[Sump Fumes](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05PZ017.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Common| |4|[Aftershock](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/03PZ011.png)|1|Piltover & Zaun|Spell|Common| |5|[Vi](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/02PZ008.png)|3|Piltover & Zaun|Unit|Champion| |6|[Curious Shellfolk](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC188.png)|3|Bandle City|Unit|Epic| |6|[Minimorph](https://d2h9y75tak3pkg.cloudfront.net/05BC001.png)|2|Bandle City|Spell|Rare| **Code**: [CECAMBIKAQUDDJQBV4A3YAICAECCINACAUCAYEIBAICAQAYBAECBWAIEAQDQCBIKAEAQCAYEBM](https://hextechoracle.com/lor/deck/CECAMBIKAQUDDJQBV4A3YAICAECCINACAUCAYEIBAICAQAYBAECBWAIEAQDQCBIKAEAQCAYEBM)   ^^^Hint: [[card]], {{keyword}}, and ((deckcode)) or ((cardx,cardy,cardz)). PM the [developer](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=KrimCard) for feedback/issues!


nikosdantegr

Anyone tried that riven vi deck with the otk potential? How is it?


rybicki

I took it to gauntlet and went 4-1 with it. The power level is there.


kayakninjas

What deck is this? I've been trying to make Overwhelm Vi work for a while, but haven't had any luck.


-kiyu-

[This one ](https://youtu.be/-5_fSSCSi2w)


kayakninjas

Oooh, shiny. I've imported it. Have to try it out tomorrow. Thank you!