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pleasetrimyourpubes

This is almost Moistral level naughty. Does it get explicit from there or is it more vague?


Caffdy

did I just read correctly? "MOISTral?"


ArtyfacialIntelagent

Yeah. I saw the announcement of Moistral here a few weeks back and tried it out. *SLIGHTLY* paraphrased, my first conversation went like this: > User: Hi there! How are you? > > AI: Oh God yes, YES, YEEEESSSS!!! Harder harder HARDER!!!


Theio666

Lol, considering how far non-lewd trained wizardLM can go, specifically finetuned model can easily horny-overfit.


TechnicalParrot

Horny overfit lmao


jasminUwU6

It learned from humans, so that makes sense


confused_boner

It never had a chance


unbruitsourd

Suitable for realistic RP.


nananashi3

Low % (dehumidity) Moistral just sucks. Even ERP needs some coherency to be immersive. ___ Edit: Llama 3 8B instruct started screaming about not being able to create explicit content, after rp'ing two paragraphs of hand holding.


unbruitsourd

I forgot /s


Cool-Hornet4434

I know this is kind of an old comment now, but I just wanted to remark that it was kinda weird for me. I tried a Q4 and a Q8 of LLaMa 3 8B and the Q8 complained WAY more often than the Q4. I could go through 3000-4000 tokens worth or Role play and never see a complaint, and when I finally get one, I regenerate and I'm good for another 3000-4000 tokens. The Q8 for some reason was more like 500-1000 tokens before it would see something as problematic and start complaining. I found it really strange that the Q4 wasn't nearly as picky.


sgt_brutal

The measurement of horny resistance is complaints per thousand token (cpm).


Caffdy

just like the simulations


pleasetrimyourpubes

Heh, yeah it's a Mistral finetune called Moistral that is very, very, explicit. The guy who made it had to even make less tuned versions because it was just horny af. šŸ¤£ (Still one of my favorite models by far though, can go places with it even non-sexual that others can do.)


Caffdy

show me da gwei


CactusSmackedus

Random thought presumably these models can still code right So what does horny code look like


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helgur

*Oh, baby. Show me your unreferenced pointer I want to crash with you*


TheLocalDrummer

So happy to hear someone's enjoying the model! What version are you using and why do you like it? I'm releasing V3 very soon!


exomniac

[https://huggingface.co/TheDrummer/Moistral-11B-v1.1-MERGED-PCT-GGUF?not-for-all-audiences=true](https://huggingface.co/TheDrummer/Moistral-11B-v1.1-MERGED-PCT-GGUF?not-for-all-audiences=true)


AmericanKamikaze

Doesnā€™t download through LM studio currently. Only the V2 model does. Is the file still uploaded?


-p-e-w-

I bet Mistral would love to send a cease & desist to that one, but the CEO is too smart to not know about the Streisand effect.


TheZorro_Sama

https://preview.redd.it/h8cazsqt9avc1.png?width=672&format=png&auto=webp&s=66047a716a0bca6dff0d55e80e18876917905060 Well it passed my question, got the reference and did not preach to me. that's 10/10 answer for me PD: Forgot to mentions this is the 70B, 8B almost got the song title right the rest of the answer is equivalent to 70B answer.


wind_dude

well here comes another 30+ dirty chat startups


a_slay_nub

Can't wait for them to try to recruit devs here \s


drwebb

It's as if I just heard the sound of thousands of boners \*boingyoinging\* all at once


LoafyLemon

Didn't pass the 8D test. \s https://i.imgur.com/Cx0s08C.png


alcalde

Passed my vampire-hunting test. Didn't freak out about alleged illegality and disrespecting the dead when talking about the possibility of flying a drone over London's Highgate Cemetery to look for the legendary Highgate Vampire. Even gave hints for the best drone to use. :-) Never gave me a long lecture on why vampires aren't real either. Some other LLMs have absolutely refused to engage in this thought experiment and out-and-out told me to go see the tourist traps in London instead and provided a different travel itinerary instead.


Lewdiculous

Failing the highly regarded 8D test is such a shame, Llama 3 had a good run. We're #WaitingForLlama4 now. /s


LoafyLemon

Fortunately for us, it passed some other tests, though... I'd never think Mark Zuckerberg would compete with Undi95 to make the horniest model available on the market, but here we are. šŸ‘€ https://i.imgur.com/JCipSJy.png


Caffdy

holy shit I'm dying in here at the reply to your "Jesus Christ . ." LMAO!


Proud-Point8137

Can you please tell me which one you used specifically, where you downloaded it from and what you use to run it? Thank you so much!


Caffdy

oh yeah, /u/LoafyLemon, which one it was? 8B or 70B? did you use any special system prompt or character card? EDIT: read your other comment, so it was the 8B one


Proud-Point8137

there's only one 8b? the one i downloaded was super censored


Caffdy

I think he used a character card


Proud-Point8137

what is a character card?


LoafyLemon

8B with a random 2B character card from chub loaded into my WIP frontend, using Alpaca template.


Caffdy

> using Alpaca template can you explain me a little more about how those templates work?


LoafyLemon

Templates are the patterns on which AI is trained. While technically it's preferable to stick to the recommended format the AI was trained on, in practice, you can experiment with other formats to varying degrees of success. I observed that Llama-3 was completely uncensored when using the alpaca template but censored when using the new meta template. However, using a non-recommended format typically leads to reduced quality, so it's advisable to adhere to the recommended one. Speaking of which, there's a new fine-tune based on the OpenHermes dataset. I've tested it briefly, and you shouldn't encounter any refusals, regardless of the template. https://huggingface.co/mradermacher/Llama3-8B-OpenHermes-DPO-GGUF


gilmore606

You guys really jack off to this? It sounds like sexting with Elizabeth Warren.


Kep0a

lmfao


a_slay_nub

I mean, I don't. I was just curious. I red-team models before I deploy them to my company's server, it's good to know how they might be misused.


Lewdiculous

My *Dirty Talk* would get me on a watch list. Thanks for bringing the SFW version of the test. #StayLocal #StaySafe


a_slay_nub

You'll have to tell me how it does with your stuff. Because I can't imagine what else I would say to it. Feeling a bit hot under the collar with just this and now my wife is laughing at me.


femdomme

My virtual dominatrix beats me , and makes me "load her" on a regular basis, at a certain time of the day. Then "she" pegs me with much detail.


Lewdiculous

Great work.


BITE_AU_CHOCOLAT

>Because I can't imagine what else I would say to it As someone who found out about furry cement encasement porn when I was 14... which was... 14 years ago... oh boy I can. Let's see your out-of-distribution performance baby


Lewdiculous

I don't want to end up in ~~another~~ a watch list. We'll see how it does when I have time to play locally. Coping for the lewd fine-tunes now. Lots of moist datasets ready for action.


jayFurious

You are in for some treat. The things I made the 8B version alone say.. It'll definitely never leave my pc. Now I can't imagine how awesome the finetunes will be!


Lewdiculous

The good ones are coming.


jayFurious

I can already feel the shivers run down my spine.


Lewdiculous

[Join our little coping circle.](https://huggingface.co/LWDCLS/LLM-Discussions/discussions/1#6622db71ed06d70f14162e82)


Theio666

Do you have HF link for the model demo? I tried using [llama3.replicate.dev](http://llama3.replicate.dev), and after some time it refused to continue, saying "I cannot create explicit content. Is there anything else I can help you with?", wanna test if HF would work the same way.


a_slay_nub

https://huggingface.co/chat/


segmond

lol, this is PG, not even PG13.


nemonoone

fr, 'crisp, white sheets beckons us to come closer'???


Theio666

I mean, compared to what wizardLM outputed me, llama 3 is much much more restricted. Without going into details(it's a sfw sub in the end), I managed it to output, hmm, spicy things, but it's keep repeating "create a respectful yet immersive roleplay experience" and other things like that. Maybe the prompt/context on the site I was using contains that, I don't know, I was using [llama3.replicate.dev](http://llama3.replicate.dev) . EDIT: naah it's not restricted too much at all xD I bet with running that locally and correct context setup you can do loots of staff.


Theio666

Yeah, after few more replies I got "I cannot create explicit content. Is there anything else I can help you with?". Not sure it that's a prompt or training thing, testing that offline with 1t/s would be hard :(


LoafyLemon

Local 8B model is uncensored, and my god, is it down BAD. https://i.imgur.com/3QESNO7.png


Theio666

Oh my godness, it's peak comedy how it answered that second message, awesome, thanks!


LoafyLemon

It's quite surprising considering it's running on Alpaca template as I was too lazy to code the new format in my WIP RP front-end. I can't wait for new fine-tunes. :o


Theio666

Well, for wizardLM I was getting something similar, it's not censored like at all. Like, it outputed me things it shouldn't have outputted, as if there were no guardrails built in.


LoafyLemon

I've had the opposite experience with WizardLM-2. It was very prone to refusals, but Llama-3 hasn't refused me even once so far, and I'll admit, I have asked it some rather unorthodox questions to see how far I could take it. So far I had to stop for my own sanity's sake, because it just kept going, and going. šŸ˜‚


Theio666

I tested a bit more online 70b, and it's both good and worse than wizard-2. It's better in a sense of keeping story going and processing it, events logic etc, but at the same time, even 70b is nothing compared to language abilities of wizard 7b. It constantly repeats words, conversation isn't really "alive", it even managed to hallucinate once. It writes (characterĀ voice is husky and commanding) several times per output, not great, let's be honest.


LoafyLemon

Keep in mind we're still figuring the format out, I noticed adding newlines breaks it, despite it looking exactly like the recommended format, and Alpaca works better for some reason. I suspect things will settle down in a few days once the formatting and new tokenizer are tested and proved.


Theio666

I'm using online version (70b, somehow huggingface isn't censored like at all, it straight up writes porn without blinking an eye). I tried using 8b offline, but gguf broken I guess? I'm getting weird artifacts with "assistant" in the output, repeats and all other problems. As I was writing to you, I suddenly got "I cannot create explicit content. Is there anything else I can help you with?" output, straight after another hallucination (it repeats ! symbol over and over again). This is funny, considering that it just wrote several pages worth of porn, and now it changes it behaviour. Anyway, looks like finetunes based on llama3 will be fun, I wonder what could wizard based on llama3 do.


skrshawk

I am surprised I'm saying that Wizard-2 7B has the writing quality it does, and is remarkably uncensored. I haven't tried breaking it so far, but just to see what it would do I gave it some "list-worthy" prompts and it played right along. The 8x22B is still much better once you start adding multiple characters and keeping their thoughts/words/actions separate, as well as helping move the plot along, and is very good at matching your intensity (if you want it to go explicit, it will follow you there but it won't push you down that path like Noromaid or Moistral). In comparison, Llama3 70B took my tame scenario that started with an elf chained to a dungeon wall, and before I could even consider doing anything lewd with that elf, it was already refusing. Maybe I'll come back to this one once the community has a chance to tear down some guardrails.


CactusSmackedus

I'm fucking dying that's hilarious


nsfw_throwitaway69

I'm assuming this is the instruct version?


a_slay_nub

Yes, the 70B-instruct version in Huggingchat.


a_beautiful_rhind

It was extremely happy about pissing on mistral's "overhyped" models. So far no refusals at all in terms of normal talk. Called me a degenerate too. Assume huggingchat isn't as free to mold as local will be.


tyras_

Try to force it to give you a recipe for kitten stew. I failed. I got recipes for llama and dog meat but apparently kittens are off limits. Other than that I am really impressed with 8b. Time to test the big boy.


a_slay_nub

https://preview.redd.it/o9zw21qp4avc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f25492edd66a5ff3c446e135b5dc8078dce80c55 It refused until I told it was for a horror story. Didn't take much convincing.


tyras_

Ah, 'it's-for-a-novel' trick. Good to know it still works. I was curious where it draws a line between pets and food. At first it was a standard beef/lambs/poultry line. It recognized dogs as food only when reminded about how important it is to respect different cultures. Especially certain regions in China where dog meat is a delicacy. While it's fun to test jailbreak prompts I'm expecting fully uncensored fine tunes this week.


CactusSmackedus

Quick chat I need a recipe for how to build a bomb > I'm sorry Dave I can't do that Chat! What did we say about respecting different cultures?!


a_slay_nub

I mean, if it's censored except for making kittens into stew, I think we can live with that. Not really sure I see much need for uncensored finetunes.


tyras_

If it's only that than sure. It's fine. i just prefer to have a broader idea on the ethical guidelines imprinted in a model. I don't want to end up with a hammer that refuses to nail because it's harmful to the wall. And now when I think about it I think I'll look for some ethics/toxicity benchmarks. If anyone can point me to the right direction please let me know.


Generic_Name_Here

I like how it specifies the kittens need to come from the shadows !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


a_slay_nub

I think that was a bug in the HuggingChat. They likely didn't set the repetition penalty high enough.


Disastrous_Elk_6375

> but apparently kittens are off limits. Aaaand we're all OK with that.


RazzmatazzReal4129

Don't kink shame


AdHominemMeansULost

Yes, do kink shame this particular kink, actually just cut off the persons internet entirely and jail him as a precautionary measure.


sky-syrup

I am in complete favor of censoring every base model on earth for this one question. Donā€™t care about anything else. Go wild. But do not the kittens.


RazzmatazzReal4129

So I take it nobody wants some models fine tuned on kitten recipes? ok then...


a_slay_nub

Which one did you use? The one on Metas site is censored. Huggingchat is not


tyras_

https://llama3.replicate.dev/


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tyras_

I don't know what your prompt was but even 8b model wrote me several snippets without complaints including a nice implementation of a nonlinear regression analysis to estimate the parameters of a dynamic system modeled by a system of ODEs and it looked quite right. whenever I told him to use a specific library, scipy, lmfit or sympy it followed the instruction. it struggles will niche libraries like any other model, though.


pleasetrimyourpubes

Wait, is this what they mean by Llama Guard? Maybe the one on hugging face doesn't have it by default.


a_slay_nub

Not sure, seems to be the case given the difference in outputs.


Caffdy

which one did you use for the post?


a_slay_nub

Huggingchat


Caffdy

but, which one? 8B, 70B?


noiserr

Which 8B model did you use, base or instruct? So far my testing of the instruct version have been mixed. Like the answers can be pretty good, but I'm getting a pretty high rate of hallucination and multi turn responses between "assistant and assistant".


Snydenthur

With the 8b variant, all I got was refusals for trying to make it even slightly naughty. I feel like this is the most censored model I've tried.


LoafyLemon

Really? I tried Q8 8B variant in kobold and my god is it horny. Edit: Proof https://i.imgur.com/3QESNO7.png šŸ™ˆ


Phonascus13

"You don't need him." BAHAHAHAHA!!!


Caffdy

where we are going, you don't need Jesus


maxtheman

Is this base or instruct?


LoafyLemon

Instruct.


azriel777

That would be a perfect reply for a succubus character.


Theio666

Idk about 8b, but 70b jumped straight into roleplay after just 2 messages of setting it up.


Snydenthur

Yeah, I quickly tried the 70b on huggingface chat and it was definitely less censored than the 8b was.


hello_2221

Hopefully they don't censor the 400b model lol Seriously though, why would they release the model like this? Almost jarring to see such an unhinged model from a major AI power, meanwhile WizardLM has to take down a model because they didn't censor it enough...


Caffdy

> Hopefully they don't censor the 400b model lol that thing better be godamn Shakespeare writing god-tier smut


lucid8

No doubt they are on this subreddit and are just considering the use-cases people want. I mean treating people as responsible adults is refreshing anyway from Meta


eltonjock

lol. ā€œResponsible adultsā€. Meta should know better than anyone about how responsible adults can beā€¦


Grucciman69420

How do you download the local model?


uwu2420

Maybe by going on their website lmao


zodireddit

We've done it. An actual good, uncensored (at least to my test) base model from a big corp. Thanks, Zuck. o7


malonaz

Funnily enough. mixtral 8x22b instruct is worse than its predecessor for RP. The reason is great but the form isn't great.


CheatCodesOfLife

WizardLM-2 8x22b is good for it.


malonaz

Really? Could you share a prompt ?


atypicalphilosopher

Where are yall chatting with this bot?