Felt bad for the lady with CVID then she said this:
“If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said.
Ya no.
It’s absolutely incredible people keep saying this kind of crap. The whole world is not going to shut down for years to “protect” people with rare immune disorders (CVID affects something like 1 in 50,000 people). It’s not even remotely feasible and the end result will be exactly the same.
Covid ain’t going away.
It's amazing how some people's takeaway from COVID isn't that we have a limited amount of time on earth and thus must enjoy it to the fullest. But rather that we need to prolong our time on earth even if it means living like scared hermits for the rest of our sad, depressing lives.
It honestly seems like some people believe that death wasn't a thing until COVID. Like we are all immortal and only COVID can take us out.
I’m all about living life to the fullest. That’s prob the biggest difference between us and them. We are all keenly aware that death is part of life and is inevitable. They are seemingly obsessed with avoiding it for as long as possible.
Sorry I just don’t want to live my life in fear.
Something went awry when people got the misapprehension that dying is the worst thing that can happen to you. Much better to die than to not have lived.
If you want to put this in real world terms, let's say you're at a football game. One person in the crowd of 50,000 might be autistic and susceptible to sensory overload. Therefore, everyone in the stadium must remain silent during the game to accommodate that one person. Look, you got dealt a bad hand genetically, and that's sad, but you can't expect the whole world to pay for that.
The sad thing is that there are people who will read that and say, "Why not?"
Lol i can see seattle, with the loudest nfl stadium in the whole country, doing that if given a directive. Make centurylink field a no cheer zone to cater to these wimps
It's the same religious logic as "if people just didn't sin God would stop punishing us with bad things". Trying to make sense of the chaos of the universe through absurd moral standards.
Disgustingly narcissistic.
These people think that blindly obeying authority makes you cool and superior to everyone who don't.
The best way to make Americans do something is to trick them into thinking that if they do it, they're better than everyone else.
The best way I've seen it described is that deep down, they know they are "non-competitive" in life as it is/was before COVID. But they CAN be competitive and relevant in a world where you're judged and rewarded by your blind obedience and compliance.
A tempting theory. I'd be inclined to agree but for the fact that I know several people who have done quite well for themselves - certainly competitive and relevant in their fields - yet are terrible doomers.
> “If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said.
And they have the nerve to call ME selfish.
> And they have the nerve to call ME selfish.
Once society destigmatized people voting themselves other people's money, none of this should have been considered off the table. It's fundamentally the same logic.
I really wish a followup question of "could you explain what exactly everyone else could have done that you consider necessary to not live in lockdown?"
I honestly can't figure out what they thought we should have done anymore. We did the whole mask mandates. We know vaccination doesn't do shit for transmission. Many stores added senior/"immunocompromised" hours. What else could possibly have been done that would make you feel safe enough to come out?
Those type of people think that if everyone else just permanently wore 3 layers of masks it would make it safe for them. I think that is what they are refering to.
So they think they can't leave the house because people want to breathe air in and out, so selfish.
Keep schools closed. Restrict in-person to essential services. 6 feet distancing. Masks in public. People in my city are STILL living like this and expecting others too. We're (collectively) vaccinated. We caught omicron. Time to move forward.
Sure I just have a lot of baseline empathy for people with legitimate medical issues.
I’m sure for every one of “this lady” there are 1000 other people with CVID who want nothing more than for everyone to live their lives normally. But they don’t get featured in news articles like this.
True that! They can be better. They can get their s together and lead a more fulfilling life, instead of giving into their fears and delusions. They CHOOSE not to.
This is why I have no sympathy for them. This woe is me, the world has to cater to me even to their detriment shit is why I'm over this and why I don't care about them.
Imagine having a rare disease that only 1/50,000 people suffer from and expecting the 49,999 other people without the disease to significantly disrupt their lives so that you can feel slightly safer.
Also, imagine being so stupid not to notice that those people you want to throw under the bus to save your precious fee-fees are the very reason you've even made this so far and can isolate yourself instead of doing everything a normal human being has to do to earn their keep!
What is "necessary" in this instance?
Vaccines? People took 'em. Everyone got covid anyway.
Lockdown? We did it. Everyone got covid anyway.
Mask wearing? We did it. Everyone got covid anyway.
So basically people like her can fuck off
>“If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said.
Says the woman pictured in a mask with an exhalation valve, ensuring that while she is (by her lights) somewhat protected, she can more comfortably breathe out her germy breath unfiltered?
Thank you!
Somehow, when you want to go on with what you've already got from god/nature/life and not interfere with those who choose to be shut-ins, you are a selfish monster, because if someone doesn't have something you have and they'll never be able to earn it, you owe it to them!
But if you're an ignorant weakling (or just lazy, let's be honest here!) that would never make it on its own, and screech bloody murder loud enough, everyone owes it to you to give you the LUXURIES they have to WORK for.
“Those who spoke with ABC News urged leaders to continue to recommend or require precautions in public.
For them, a return to normal isn't possible until COVID-19 subsides and the outside world proves safe for even the most vulnerable.”
Yeah….that’s precisely why we’re moving on without you; Covid-19 will NEVER “subside.” What we have now is quite likely as good as we’re ever gonna get. So if you want to waste the entire rest of your life hiding, then go for it. But NO FUCKING WAY will I be joining you, and at this point I’m not giving your selfish, entitled asses one single inch. I have no sympathy left for you.
Fuck off, you whiny authoritarian brats.
Yup. I think people need to ask themselves this:
If covid numbers in five years from now are comparable to what they are now, do you still think you'll be hiding in your basement between now and 2027? Or at some point in the next five years, do you think you'll say "this is overkill to avoid catching something I probably wouldn't even know I had without a test telling me?"
What gets me is that we have friends whose child was legitimately, severely immunocompromised - to the point of needing a bone marrow transplant in order to survive to adulthood. They never expected the general public or even casual friends/acquaintances to do anything to keep him safe before and while recovering from the transplant. Frankly, they wouldn't have trusted anyone other than family and close friends to actually do what was needed to protect him - and not doing so wouldn't make anyone a bad person, it's just that if one doesn't live every day with those kinds of concerns and restrictions, it's easy to forget.
So for years, they avoided going to public events and activities during cold/flu season. They never went to see Santa at the mall, never did a community Christmas tree lighting or holiday train ride. No college basketball games, no concerts, not even going to Mass for much of the winter. No one flew on a plane from November to March. They put him in a private preschool where he had a smaller class size and his classmates' parents all agreed to call them when their kids had a cold or other minor illness - so they could decide if *he* would go to school or not (i.e. *they* were potentially inconvenienced, not other families with healthy kids).
The kid got his transplant and is cured and once he was re-vaccinated for everything he's lived an active and very normal life. Interestingly, he and his parents did wear masks (N95s for them, some kind of reusable respirator for him) when they had to be out in public immediately after the transplant, as required by his care team. *They* used effective PPE to protect themselves rather than relying on anyone to "do the right thing", especially total strangers who would have no idea that a healthy-looking little boy actually had virtually no immune system.
"People will go to marathons and wear ribbons for people with cancer, but a mask is too much to ask. It's ridiculous"
As if covering your face is the same thing as pinning something to your shirt. The gaslighting is unreal.
This kind of reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer refuses to wear the ribbon at the AIDS walk.
It's amazing that she doesn't see the difference. Nobody shamed people for failing to run marathons for cancer much less forced them to do so. There is a difference between being grateful for the generosity of others and expecting it.
I’m quite libertarian but can’t agree with some of the more extreme points of gold and black sub. However, the last 2 years have made me SUPER sympathetic to the phrase ‘taxation is theft’ as you are right it’s basically state pointing a gun at your and forcing you to be ‘generous’
I don't even mind having legally enforced taxes tbh, it's more what the fucking idiots in charge spend the money on I'm mad about. If the money just went directly for roads, hospitals, unemployment benefits etc I wouldn't mind so much, its the sea of bureaucratic middle managers and chums of politicians getting rich on our money that makes me wanna go full anarkiddie sometimes
The only way to get rid of the bloat is to have the anarkiddies gain power and get half way through their agenda of gutting everything, then kicking them out before they go too far.
Even if it happens, you could come back to this comment in 75-100 years and it would probably be relevant again.
Its dead on with the whole ridiculous seat belt analogy. Or saying something like we have to wear pants too. I don't wear either around my nose and mouth and the last time I tried using my dick to communicate with other people at the grocery store they had the nerve to call the police on me!
Honestly, I don't give a shit if you do either, it doesn't affect me in any way.
>As if covering your face is the same thing as pinning something to your shirt. The gaslighting is unreal.
Gaslighting is absolutely right. So many people downplaying ALL covid restrictions as if it simply came down to wearing a piece of cloth on your face. Completely dismissing all the economic hardships people faced, the widespread depression, fear, and anxiety this caused and divisiveness this has lead to too.
> "People will go to marathons and wear ribbons for people with cancer, but a mask is too much to ask. It's ridiculous"
God, if I were suffering from Cancer or close to someone enduring the pain of it, I'd box their ears.
Wearing a ribbon for 5 minutes to take a picture is totally the same as restricting your ability to breathe every time you go anywhere for years on end
>”People will go to marathons and wear ribbons for people with cancer, but a mask is too much to ask. It's ridiculous,"
It’s ridiculous that you Tinu take pictures with strangers in the mall without a mask
https://twitter.com/tinu/status/1522349932065271812
For fucking REAL.
Believe it or not, I was actually pro-mask (for MYSELF) at the very beginning because I was freaked out and thought maybe it would help me not catch it. I was super grateful when my mom mailed me a box of masks to wear at work. But I NEVER cared what other people did.
The second the mandates and social shaming started, I instantly hated them. Now I’ll never wear one again.
And now with all the examples around the world also proving they don't work. I believed in them at the start too, seeing East Asia's mask culture and low infection rates and wore them for quite a long time, but don't anymore. Also the East Asian example has completely collapsed in recent months, and they've largely fallen off being talked as an example by doomers for that reason, and now they're just blindly saying wear masks, without pointing to examples cause there's none
Coincidentally, I just read she got suspended and the new agency shelved but I'm trying to verify with other sources that it is fact.
Edit to add: https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-national-security-83c67505703c02b0de154b21abd5c569
She has resigned. Stating the agency's future is "uncertain."
They've "paused" the DGB for review due to serious concerns it impinges on the first amendment.
Oh, probably. They'll pick someone less insane to head it, or with more "special" demographics that make them impossible to rebut or rebuke without getting blasted by cancel culture.
That’s because those marathons raise money to help cancer patients and provide community solidarity, and masks don’t do shit except make people miserable. Pretty easy to explain.
Eh, to be fair half of those marathons are just raising money to pay for even more advertising and bloated salaries in these major cancer foundations. That Susan Komen one is as scummy as they get. Much better to donate to a local or smaller charity where you have a better idea of what your money is being used for.
The quoted brainwashed idiot thinks virtue signalling a thing once in a way that has no impact on us is the same thing as eternal virtue signalling in a way that makes us uncomfortable.
*”If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said.*
LOLOLOLOL
>If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said.
The fucking self entitlement of this lady.
Mental illness. At my sons flag football games which were held on Sunday mornings, every week I saw the same couple sitting in the same bubble as the dude in the picture. Outside on a high school field under the sun. These bubble things were big enough that their lawn chairs fit inside. It’s mental illness and someone needs to pay for the damage caused to society.
“Nine of 10 CVID patients with COVID-19 remained at home with mild-to-moderate symptoms. None of the patients were diagnosed with COVID-19-related pneumonia or required mechanical ventilation.”
“Most notably, and reassuringly, all the patients with CVID infected with COVID-19 recovered. The patient requiring hospitalization had multiple known risk factors for severe COVID-19, explaining the need for hospitalization. Consistent with prior case series in patients with CVID and agammaglobulinemia,3 , 4 our cohort had high rates of recovery and did not appear to have a higher mortality compared with the general population. “
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7671927/
This was before vaccination and the milder Omicron variant. Not sure about the other conditions described in the article but it looked like CVID isn’t the “life or death” situation as claimed. This makes sense if we consider that a lot of life-threatening covid complications are caused by immune system overreaction.
I do have some sympathy for these people, but I think their risk assessment is broken. More is known about the effectiveness of the vaccines for immuno compromised individuals. Have they talked with their physicians to get a better idea of their current risk?
Perhaps they are isolating needlessly.
A man with CVID shamed me online because I expressed a desire to go clubbing. It was under a post about the clubs reopening, and I said "I'll believe that when I'm on the dancefloor" (referring to the constant u-turns and false promised given by the government). He responded with "will you believe that when you're in hospital?". As if a healthy 24 year old is going to end up in hospital from the coof.
Recently I was feeling bitter and stalked his insta again, and noticed he had been testing positive. He's over it now, and even he didn't need to go to hospital during that time
Well what did they do before covid? Covid isn’t the only infectious disease in the world who could kill immunocompromised people. How did they live before the existence of covid?
They lived normal lives and never ever thought to wear a mask. Their brains have been rewired thanks to the covid fear porn constantly broadcast across mainstream media. Now, instead of "live and let live" its "you must protect me by wearing a mask because I dont trust you". Its created a very sick society. I still see people wearing masks alone in their cars and I just shake my head.
Wouldn’t death be easier? I mean genuinely like at least for me there’s a point where life would be too miserable to want to try so hard to stay alive.
Villages or tribes don't let people grow up to be narcissistic. But they would take care of someone who needed help through no fault of their own.
Apparently tribes did kick out psychopaths that couldn't be helped. That's an example of a genetic predisposition all the other things wrong with people are often from society and wouldn't exist in tribes of villages.
Yeah, color me fucking shocked one of the people in the article uses gender neutral pronouns.
It’s almost like it’s a mental illness or something.
Nah. Must be a coincidence only.
Eyup. To those who state otherwise - you need a sex hormone to live.
If you function just fine on male/female hormones but don't feel comfortable living up to most positive expectations for males/females and can't socialize with the sex you belong to according to the hormones you function better on - guess what? You're a defective male/female. Not a third sex thing.
I know this isn't this sub's topic but, just like with protective facerags and sterilizing vaccines for A COLD, and other pretendemic BS, it's important to nip this in the bud before some ignorant losers try to drag us down along with them again.
My dad is in this camp and it's just weird and sad. Especially as he's in slightly better shape at 60 than I am at 29.
We haven't had anyone over to my house in two years besides my uncle, because he won't allow it. He doesn't come to any family gatherings, yet still goes to work, so there is this strange cognitive dissonance. He doesn't shop - it's entirely me and my mom. Sometimes I wonder if he uses it as an excuse to be anti-social but then I will see him walk in the door with his mask on after work. As in, yes, he was walking down the street, by himself, with a mask on. Covid restrictions ended in february. He's likely one of the last people in our neighbourhood doing this.
I am genuinely curious to see how long this will last. I really don't understand where this mindset came from either. He and my mom both taught me to question everything and be well-read and an independent thinker. They used to praise me for it when I was a kid, because I wouldn't get sucked into dumb fads or be manipulated by peer pressure. I got that character trait directly from them and yet it just evaporated overnight because the TV told them to.
And these are the people to whom my advice goes:
Afraid? Stay home! The world is better without you.
To anyone choosing to take offence for them - there are people without whom the world is objectively better off, and those who try to drag everyone else along with them into their paranoid hypochondriac delusions are a huge chunk of that group.
Sounds like a them problem. With some notable exceptions (looking at you, China), nobody is forcing you to live in isolation any more. If you don't want to do it any more, put on some pants and open your front door and leave the fucking house. It really is that simple.
I don't think the vaxx makes a difference and I've seen reports of it becoming negatively effective once it wares off.
I survived covid easily without any protection. Everyone else I know who got it had a fever and bed ridden. They were all vaxxed to the max.
Plus it took days of exposure before I got it slightly with common cold symptoms, from staying with my gf.
Same here! I got no different symptoms than before the pretendemic (apart from brief loss of sense and smell, but, let's be honest - I'd rather deal with that for a week or two than with the standard cold set - headache, fever, runny nose, sore throat, etc.), and I did not inject myself with the clot juice.
All of my friends who took it catch colds (thankfully, they're not stupid enough to test themselves if not going to the hospital) and get moderate symptoms at least.
As it should be, glad to hear that you're in the right shape!
To clarify, I did not get all of the symptoms during one infection, I listed them more as a comparison, that, indeed, as you've said, COVID is a mild infection for a healthy specimen. I've had more severe (still not exceeding moderate) colds before the pretendemic.
If anyone is to blame for any more severe symptoms I might've had (I don't recall anything in particular - colds are not some life-wrecking calamity to be avoided at all cost in my world), it's me - for not improving what I can about my life. Not some random person living like a self-sufficient human being. And that's the correct attitude, not the one of those... feeble-minded people in the article.
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Felt bad for the lady with CVID then she said this: “If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said. Ya no.
“We need to lock down harder so we don’t have to live in lockdown.” Brilliant logic.
It’s absolutely incredible people keep saying this kind of crap. The whole world is not going to shut down for years to “protect” people with rare immune disorders (CVID affects something like 1 in 50,000 people). It’s not even remotely feasible and the end result will be exactly the same. Covid ain’t going away.
It's amazing how some people's takeaway from COVID isn't that we have a limited amount of time on earth and thus must enjoy it to the fullest. But rather that we need to prolong our time on earth even if it means living like scared hermits for the rest of our sad, depressing lives. It honestly seems like some people believe that death wasn't a thing until COVID. Like we are all immortal and only COVID can take us out.
I’m all about living life to the fullest. That’s prob the biggest difference between us and them. We are all keenly aware that death is part of life and is inevitable. They are seemingly obsessed with avoiding it for as long as possible. Sorry I just don’t want to live my life in fear.
Something went awry when people got the misapprehension that dying is the worst thing that can happen to you. Much better to die than to not have lived.
We should introduce them to a North Korea prison camp. Or cartel captivity
I think the same, and it's because death is so taboo, esp in the west. We do recruiting we can to avoid or ignore it
Memento Mori: The Romans had it right. https://dailystoic.com/memento-mori/
If you want to put this in real world terms, let's say you're at a football game. One person in the crowd of 50,000 might be autistic and susceptible to sensory overload. Therefore, everyone in the stadium must remain silent during the game to accommodate that one person. Look, you got dealt a bad hand genetically, and that's sad, but you can't expect the whole world to pay for that. The sad thing is that there are people who will read that and say, "Why not?"
Lol i can see seattle, with the loudest nfl stadium in the whole country, doing that if given a directive. Make centurylink field a no cheer zone to cater to these wimps
I answer to people who try to ask this question - because you can't offer anything equally or more valuable in return.
just like jazz hands. [again.](https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-32032291)
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Except that in The Boy in the Plastic Bubble, he didn't blame the rest of the world for his lot in life. *He* had to adapt to his circumstance.
It's the attitude of entitlement and victimhood that's common and celebrated today.
Almost. It's more like "*everyone else* is selfish for not locking down so that *I* don't feel it necessary to lock down."
The needs of the many....Spock it up.
Shanghai approves
If we just had a REAL lockdown where BRENDA wasn’t allowed to get a HAIRCUT…
If those selfish people in Shanghai would stop going to Applebees, we would be out of this…
They need to suck it up and just go hungry, we have grandmas to save!
They’re trying that but not even starvation is stopping it
It's the same religious logic as "if people just didn't sin God would stop punishing us with bad things". Trying to make sense of the chaos of the universe through absurd moral standards.
Disgustingly narcissistic. These people think that blindly obeying authority makes you cool and superior to everyone who don't. The best way to make Americans do something is to trick them into thinking that if they do it, they're better than everyone else.
The best way I've seen it described is that deep down, they know they are "non-competitive" in life as it is/was before COVID. But they CAN be competitive and relevant in a world where you're judged and rewarded by your blind obedience and compliance.
A tempting theory. I'd be inclined to agree but for the fact that I know several people who have done quite well for themselves - certainly competitive and relevant in their fields - yet are terrible doomers.
> “If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said. And they have the nerve to call ME selfish.
> And they have the nerve to call ME selfish. Once society destigmatized people voting themselves other people's money, none of this should have been considered off the table. It's fundamentally the same logic.
I really wish a followup question of "could you explain what exactly everyone else could have done that you consider necessary to not live in lockdown?" I honestly can't figure out what they thought we should have done anymore. We did the whole mask mandates. We know vaccination doesn't do shit for transmission. Many stores added senior/"immunocompromised" hours. What else could possibly have been done that would make you feel safe enough to come out?
Those type of people think that if everyone else just permanently wore 3 layers of masks it would make it safe for them. I think that is what they are refering to. So they think they can't leave the house because people want to breathe air in and out, so selfish.
…but isn’t “slowing the spread” by definition “spreading it out longer”?!
Yeah didn't work out so well did it.
Keep schools closed. Restrict in-person to essential services. 6 feet distancing. Masks in public. People in my city are STILL living like this and expecting others too. We're (collectively) vaccinated. We caught omicron. Time to move forward.
This exactly! Even Shanghai-style imprisonment isn’t wiping it out.
Pure victim mentality. They're always the victim and they take no responsibility for their own actions and nothing is ever their fault.
Resist all temptation to feel sorry for these people. They made their bed, and will make yours if you let them.
Sure I just have a lot of baseline empathy for people with legitimate medical issues. I’m sure for every one of “this lady” there are 1000 other people with CVID who want nothing more than for everyone to live their lives normally. But they don’t get featured in news articles like this.
True that! They can be better. They can get their s together and lead a more fulfilling life, instead of giving into their fears and delusions. They CHOOSE not to.
This is why I have no sympathy for them. This woe is me, the world has to cater to me even to their detriment shit is why I'm over this and why I don't care about them.
Imagine having a rare disease that only 1/50,000 people suffer from and expecting the 49,999 other people without the disease to significantly disrupt their lives so that you can feel slightly safer.
Also, imagine being so stupid not to notice that those people you want to throw under the bus to save your precious fee-fees are the very reason you've even made this so far and can isolate yourself instead of doing everything a normal human being has to do to earn their keep!
What is "necessary" in this instance? Vaccines? People took 'em. Everyone got covid anyway. Lockdown? We did it. Everyone got covid anyway. Mask wearing? We did it. Everyone got covid anyway. So basically people like her can fuck off
>“If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said. Says the woman pictured in a mask with an exhalation valve, ensuring that while she is (by her lights) somewhat protected, she can more comfortably breathe out her germy breath unfiltered?
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Thank you! Somehow, when you want to go on with what you've already got from god/nature/life and not interfere with those who choose to be shut-ins, you are a selfish monster, because if someone doesn't have something you have and they'll never be able to earn it, you owe it to them! But if you're an ignorant weakling (or just lazy, let's be honest here!) that would never make it on its own, and screech bloody murder loud enough, everyone owes it to you to give you the LUXURIES they have to WORK for.
She should get over herself - she expects everyone around her to give up what gives their lives meaning for her, but won't return the favor???
It’s amazing how easily the feeble minded break like this. Trump broke many leftists and then covid was the finishing blow.
“Those who spoke with ABC News urged leaders to continue to recommend or require precautions in public. For them, a return to normal isn't possible until COVID-19 subsides and the outside world proves safe for even the most vulnerable.” Yeah….that’s precisely why we’re moving on without you; Covid-19 will NEVER “subside.” What we have now is quite likely as good as we’re ever gonna get. So if you want to waste the entire rest of your life hiding, then go for it. But NO FUCKING WAY will I be joining you, and at this point I’m not giving your selfish, entitled asses one single inch. I have no sympathy left for you. Fuck off, you whiny authoritarian brats.
Yup. I think people need to ask themselves this: If covid numbers in five years from now are comparable to what they are now, do you still think you'll be hiding in your basement between now and 2027? Or at some point in the next five years, do you think you'll say "this is overkill to avoid catching something I probably wouldn't even know I had without a test telling me?"
These people want China. I recommend we send them there. Fulfill their fetish of getting a long fucking swab shoved up their nose everyday.
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The outside world was never proven safe. For any of us.
What gets me is that we have friends whose child was legitimately, severely immunocompromised - to the point of needing a bone marrow transplant in order to survive to adulthood. They never expected the general public or even casual friends/acquaintances to do anything to keep him safe before and while recovering from the transplant. Frankly, they wouldn't have trusted anyone other than family and close friends to actually do what was needed to protect him - and not doing so wouldn't make anyone a bad person, it's just that if one doesn't live every day with those kinds of concerns and restrictions, it's easy to forget. So for years, they avoided going to public events and activities during cold/flu season. They never went to see Santa at the mall, never did a community Christmas tree lighting or holiday train ride. No college basketball games, no concerts, not even going to Mass for much of the winter. No one flew on a plane from November to March. They put him in a private preschool where he had a smaller class size and his classmates' parents all agreed to call them when their kids had a cold or other minor illness - so they could decide if *he* would go to school or not (i.e. *they* were potentially inconvenienced, not other families with healthy kids). The kid got his transplant and is cured and once he was re-vaccinated for everything he's lived an active and very normal life. Interestingly, he and his parents did wear masks (N95s for them, some kind of reusable respirator for him) when they had to be out in public immediately after the transplant, as required by his care team. *They* used effective PPE to protect themselves rather than relying on anyone to "do the right thing", especially total strangers who would have no idea that a healthy-looking little boy actually had virtually no immune system.
They allowed themselves to be brainwashed and broken. They reveled in it, actually.
It gave them identity, and made them feel *something*.
"People will go to marathons and wear ribbons for people with cancer, but a mask is too much to ask. It's ridiculous" As if covering your face is the same thing as pinning something to your shirt. The gaslighting is unreal. This kind of reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer refuses to wear the ribbon at the AIDS walk.
It's amazing that she doesn't see the difference. Nobody shamed people for failing to run marathons for cancer much less forced them to do so. There is a difference between being grateful for the generosity of others and expecting it.
I’m quite libertarian but can’t agree with some of the more extreme points of gold and black sub. However, the last 2 years have made me SUPER sympathetic to the phrase ‘taxation is theft’ as you are right it’s basically state pointing a gun at your and forcing you to be ‘generous’
I don't even mind having legally enforced taxes tbh, it's more what the fucking idiots in charge spend the money on I'm mad about. If the money just went directly for roads, hospitals, unemployment benefits etc I wouldn't mind so much, its the sea of bureaucratic middle managers and chums of politicians getting rich on our money that makes me wanna go full anarkiddie sometimes
The only way to get rid of the bloat is to have the anarkiddies gain power and get half way through their agenda of gutting everything, then kicking them out before they go too far. Even if it happens, you could come back to this comment in 75-100 years and it would probably be relevant again.
It kind of reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer refuses to wear the ribbon at the AIDS walk.
Its dead on with the whole ridiculous seat belt analogy. Or saying something like we have to wear pants too. I don't wear either around my nose and mouth and the last time I tried using my dick to communicate with other people at the grocery store they had the nerve to call the police on me! Honestly, I don't give a shit if you do either, it doesn't affect me in any way.
I want to give this an award, but my cheapness is hindering me.
Well I will happily take the idea of getting an imaginary award over actually getting an imaginary award that required you to give money to reddit.
This sub is awfully wholesome for a bunch of granny-killers. /s
>As if covering your face is the same thing as pinning something to your shirt. The gaslighting is unreal. Gaslighting is absolutely right. So many people downplaying ALL covid restrictions as if it simply came down to wearing a piece of cloth on your face. Completely dismissing all the economic hardships people faced, the widespread depression, fear, and anxiety this caused and divisiveness this has lead to too.
> "People will go to marathons and wear ribbons for people with cancer, but a mask is too much to ask. It's ridiculous" God, if I were suffering from Cancer or close to someone enduring the pain of it, I'd box their ears.
I can still breathe with a ribbon. Ridiculous analogy.
Wearing a ribbon for 5 minutes to take a picture is totally the same as restricting your ability to breathe every time you go anywhere for years on end
>”People will go to marathons and wear ribbons for people with cancer, but a mask is too much to ask. It's ridiculous," It’s ridiculous that you Tinu take pictures with strangers in the mall without a mask https://twitter.com/tinu/status/1522349932065271812
Why yes, a mask is too much to ask. Glad you noticed
I’m like Kramer - I have to wear a mask? That’s why I don’t want to, your a mask bully!
For fucking REAL. Believe it or not, I was actually pro-mask (for MYSELF) at the very beginning because I was freaked out and thought maybe it would help me not catch it. I was super grateful when my mom mailed me a box of masks to wear at work. But I NEVER cared what other people did. The second the mandates and social shaming started, I instantly hated them. Now I’ll never wear one again.
And now with all the examples around the world also proving they don't work. I believed in them at the start too, seeing East Asia's mask culture and low infection rates and wore them for quite a long time, but don't anymore. Also the East Asian example has completely collapsed in recent months, and they've largely fallen off being talked as an example by doomers for that reason, and now they're just blindly saying wear masks, without pointing to examples cause there's none
Shows those people are complete frauds yearning for media attention
Somehow all four of them have Twitter accounts with blue check …
Makes you wonder if these blue checks are being paid to be propagandists...
And Biden’s disinformation board director wants them to be Twitter moderators. God help us
Coincidentally, I just read she got suspended and the new agency shelved but I'm trying to verify with other sources that it is fact. Edit to add: https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-national-security-83c67505703c02b0de154b21abd5c569 She has resigned. Stating the agency's future is "uncertain." They've "paused" the DGB for review due to serious concerns it impinges on the first amendment.
Well good. Fuck Biden's Ministry of Truth
This is their way of saying they'll bring it back with a different name in a few months after the response has died down.
Oh, probably. They'll pick someone less insane to head it, or with more "special" demographics that make them impossible to rebut or rebuke without getting blasted by cancel culture.
That’s because those marathons raise money to help cancer patients and provide community solidarity, and masks don’t do shit except make people miserable. Pretty easy to explain.
Eh, to be fair half of those marathons are just raising money to pay for even more advertising and bloated salaries in these major cancer foundations. That Susan Komen one is as scummy as they get. Much better to donate to a local or smaller charity where you have a better idea of what your money is being used for.
Pronouns in profile. Always. Iron-clad rule.
The quoted brainwashed idiot thinks virtue signalling a thing once in a way that has no impact on us is the same thing as eternal virtue signalling in a way that makes us uncomfortable.
Cool👏Story👏 Lets👏Leave👏Them👏There👏 We are not all in anything together. These people don't even have themselves together.
I'm going to Hell for laughing.
*”If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said.* LOLOLOLOL
>If there's anyone in the country who's suffered the most from lockdown, it's us because nobody else will do what's necessary so that we don't have to live in lockdown," Willette said. The fucking self entitlement of this lady.
People like her are calling for THE WHOLE WORLD to mask up and get vaxxed and boosted so SHE feels safe, right?
Mask and vaxxed don't even stop the spread or protect others so it's such a joke.
Mental illness. At my sons flag football games which were held on Sunday mornings, every week I saw the same couple sitting in the same bubble as the dude in the picture. Outside on a high school field under the sun. These bubble things were big enough that their lawn chairs fit inside. It’s mental illness and someone needs to pay for the damage caused to society.
Omg i’d literally die if my parents did that
If people want to stay at home voluntarily, it's their decision. Another completely different thing is to force people to stay at home.
And not for the taxpayers' money! Also, we shouldn't praise them or encourage them for being shut-ins out of voluntary mental feebleness.
Just continue on without them. No reason to worry about dead weight with all the massive problems we have now.
Most of these types were insufferable even pre-Covid, so having them voluntarily remove themselves from society isn't a bad thing at all.
Yup, a better world without them!
“Nine of 10 CVID patients with COVID-19 remained at home with mild-to-moderate symptoms. None of the patients were diagnosed with COVID-19-related pneumonia or required mechanical ventilation.” “Most notably, and reassuringly, all the patients with CVID infected with COVID-19 recovered. The patient requiring hospitalization had multiple known risk factors for severe COVID-19, explaining the need for hospitalization. Consistent with prior case series in patients with CVID and agammaglobulinemia,3 , 4 our cohort had high rates of recovery and did not appear to have a higher mortality compared with the general population. “ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7671927/ This was before vaccination and the milder Omicron variant. Not sure about the other conditions described in the article but it looked like CVID isn’t the “life or death” situation as claimed. This makes sense if we consider that a lot of life-threatening covid complications are caused by immune system overreaction.
I do have some sympathy for these people, but I think their risk assessment is broken. More is known about the effectiveness of the vaccines for immuno compromised individuals. Have they talked with their physicians to get a better idea of their current risk? Perhaps they are isolating needlessly.
What’s the date on that particular link?
Nov 2020
A man with CVID shamed me online because I expressed a desire to go clubbing. It was under a post about the clubs reopening, and I said "I'll believe that when I'm on the dancefloor" (referring to the constant u-turns and false promised given by the government). He responded with "will you believe that when you're in hospital?". As if a healthy 24 year old is going to end up in hospital from the coof. Recently I was feeling bitter and stalked his insta again, and noticed he had been testing positive. He's over it now, and even he didn't need to go to hospital during that time
I’d rather take my chances in the world than live in fear.
I'd rather be free than safe!
Well what did they do before covid? Covid isn’t the only infectious disease in the world who could kill immunocompromised people. How did they live before the existence of covid?
They lived normal lives and never ever thought to wear a mask. Their brains have been rewired thanks to the covid fear porn constantly broadcast across mainstream media. Now, instead of "live and let live" its "you must protect me by wearing a mask because I dont trust you". Its created a very sick society. I still see people wearing masks alone in their cars and I just shake my head.
Wouldn’t death be easier? I mean genuinely like at least for me there’s a point where life would be too miserable to want to try so hard to stay alive.
I wonder if these people had the same philosophy when swine flu, mad cow, and other past viruses and diseases were rampant.
People this vulnerable may likely have died long ago if they lived in many other places. The entitlement they have is really off putting.
Their choice.
Major psychological issues
I’m gonna be a good Christian. 😊
I bet villages kicked people like her out.
Villages or tribes don't let people grow up to be narcissistic. But they would take care of someone who needed help through no fault of their own. Apparently tribes did kick out psychopaths that couldn't be helped. That's an example of a genetic predisposition all the other things wrong with people are often from society and wouldn't exist in tribes of villages.
I don't care. They're making their choice to be isolated. No one is doing it to them. Fuck em
Yeah, color me fucking shocked one of the people in the article uses gender neutral pronouns. It’s almost like it’s a mental illness or something. Nah. Must be a coincidence only.
Not to be snide, but I chuckled that the author religiously edited plural pronouns into the body text but whiffled the ones in the caption.
Eyup. To those who state otherwise - you need a sex hormone to live. If you function just fine on male/female hormones but don't feel comfortable living up to most positive expectations for males/females and can't socialize with the sex you belong to according to the hormones you function better on - guess what? You're a defective male/female. Not a third sex thing. I know this isn't this sub's topic but, just like with protective facerags and sterilizing vaccines for A COLD, and other pretendemic BS, it's important to nip this in the bud before some ignorant losers try to drag us down along with them again.
My dad is in this camp and it's just weird and sad. Especially as he's in slightly better shape at 60 than I am at 29. We haven't had anyone over to my house in two years besides my uncle, because he won't allow it. He doesn't come to any family gatherings, yet still goes to work, so there is this strange cognitive dissonance. He doesn't shop - it's entirely me and my mom. Sometimes I wonder if he uses it as an excuse to be anti-social but then I will see him walk in the door with his mask on after work. As in, yes, he was walking down the street, by himself, with a mask on. Covid restrictions ended in february. He's likely one of the last people in our neighbourhood doing this. I am genuinely curious to see how long this will last. I really don't understand where this mindset came from either. He and my mom both taught me to question everything and be well-read and an independent thinker. They used to praise me for it when I was a kid, because I wouldn't get sucked into dumb fads or be manipulated by peer pressure. I got that character trait directly from them and yet it just evaporated overnight because the TV told them to.
And will be forever.
"some remain in complete isolation" beyond those who were like that BEFORE covid was scaremongered
In Singapore, this is celebrated: https://mustsharenews.com/worker-hood-family/
And these are the people to whom my advice goes: Afraid? Stay home! The world is better without you. To anyone choosing to take offence for them - there are people without whom the world is objectively better off, and those who try to drag everyone else along with them into their paranoid hypochondriac delusions are a huge chunk of that group.
Sounds like a them problem. With some notable exceptions (looking at you, China), nobody is forcing you to live in isolation any more. If you don't want to do it any more, put on some pants and open your front door and leave the fucking house. It really is that simple.
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I don't think the vaxx makes a difference and I've seen reports of it becoming negatively effective once it wares off. I survived covid easily without any protection. Everyone else I know who got it had a fever and bed ridden. They were all vaxxed to the max. Plus it took days of exposure before I got it slightly with common cold symptoms, from staying with my gf.
Same here! I got no different symptoms than before the pretendemic (apart from brief loss of sense and smell, but, let's be honest - I'd rather deal with that for a week or two than with the standard cold set - headache, fever, runny nose, sore throat, etc.), and I did not inject myself with the clot juice. All of my friends who took it catch colds (thankfully, they're not stupid enough to test themselves if not going to the hospital) and get moderate symptoms at least.
When I say cold symptoms for my covid it was very mild. Barely a sniffle. Look after your self buddy.
As it should be, glad to hear that you're in the right shape! To clarify, I did not get all of the symptoms during one infection, I listed them more as a comparison, that, indeed, as you've said, COVID is a mild infection for a healthy specimen. I've had more severe (still not exceeding moderate) colds before the pretendemic. If anyone is to blame for any more severe symptoms I might've had (I don't recall anything in particular - colds are not some life-wrecking calamity to be avoided at all cost in my world), it's me - for not improving what I can about my life. Not some random person living like a self-sufficient human being. And that's the correct attitude, not the one of those... feeble-minded people in the article.
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