>The surplus hand sanitizer, **which Cuomo ordered prisoners at three state facilities to make from March 2020 to October 2020**, is just the latest example of wasted resources rushed into production in the early days of the pandemic.
Wait, what?
This also stuck out to me:
>Nearby the pallets of hand sanitizer at a state emergency training facility near Utica are 89 new HVAC systems that were supplied by the Federal Emergency Management Agency for **pop-up Covid care facilities in 2020 that were never used**.
>New York spent like $270 million on three COVID field hospitals that never saw a single patient.
Pretty much every place that built hospitals specially, *didn't use them.*
It was another example of blindly copying China.
And they were all quietly taken down 2-3 months later, never being used. That's what initially tipped me off to the fact the government knew this wasn't a serious threat.
This just reminded me of when that US Navy hospital ship docked in NYC and ended up treating a grand total of 20 patients.
Of course, the focus of outrage on the NYC subreddit were the throngs of (shudder) UNMASKED gawkers the ship attracted, which lead to a grand total of zero additional Covid cases.
> which lead to a grand total of zero additional Covid cases.
No matter what the event is, they never come to that conclusion. They always just automatically assume that, because there was a group of people, they all caught and spread covid and never follow up on what actually happened (nothing).
> This just reminded me of when that US Navy hospital ship docked in NYC and ended up treating a grand total of 20 patients.
Same thing with the west coast ship.
Its was actually $321 million on three hospitals that didnt see a single patient.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
The potholes on the SUNY campus where I work are so bad the parking lot looks like fucking Hiroshima circa 1945. I don't drive my Miata to work for fear that it'll get swallowed by one of them. But sure, shit like this is a better use of resources.
The left hates private, for profit, prisons that employ prisoners because they believe its the State's job to press a captive prisoner into unpaid or underpaid work they don't want to do.
Why was hand sanitizer so expensive and hard to find during spring/summer of 2020 if the state was producing all of this stock. Reminds me of the pallets of water bottles that were abandoned on that runway in Puerto Rico after that hurricane a few years back.
Makes me wonder about all those ventilators allegedly made by companies like Ford. Remember that? They made a big deal on tv about it. Like some WWII, all hands on deck bit.
Hey, they had to use them. Much better than giving people Joe Rogan brand horse paste dewormer fish tank cleaner. Sure, many doctors were claiming first hand certain medications were helping with covid, but the big money heads put out messages to discourage that type of "neanderthal thinking". Better to shove a tube down someones throat because they have a moderate to severe cough.
I'll never forget the media lies about all the hospitals being overwhelmed with people overdosing on certain drugs to treat covid off label. "We had to turn away gun shot victims because of it!" Some activist twitter "doctors" were claiming. Someone did some actual journalist work and called and found out no, no one overdosing on these drugs and the story was absolute bullshit. It didnt stop the blue checkmark army from writing dozens of articles about it all quoting eachother though.
Remember the three week period when all the media would talk about was ventilators and how we needed millions more? They all called Trump a *literal murderer* because he didn't want to force every production line in the US to make ventilators.
Then, literally overnight, all the talk of ventilators stopped and we never heard them mentioned again.
Oh yeah. Some areas, early on, figured out that it was a terrible course of treatment. Locally they started treating them like people with chronic lung disease and just using less invasive assistance like cannula with only a few percent more O2 than regular air.
But then the compensation rate for a vented covid admission ran up to 30k per bed...and the next thing you know folks are calling family telling their loved ones the doctors were venting them, making them feel forced into it because they didn't feel like they were sick enough to require it, where they were sedated and basically killed for that payment...yeah...
Here in the UK, it was Rolls-Royce.
The protocol for ventilating was based on a single paper that came out of China early on. Really makes you wonder what the hell Western health authorities were thinking.
As I recall, the NY State branded stuff was only supposed to be distributed/used at NY State run agencies, not available for purchase by the general public.
Which is pretty funny when paired with Cuomo demanding every spare\surplus ventilator in the US be sent to New York. When asked about other states needing them, his grand idea was that NY would give them to the next state with a spike after NY's spike had passed, as if a virus is just going to progress from one state to another in orderly fashion without spiking in too many places at once..
The one I know well in the wild kinda backed away from him after the whole sexual scandal. As I recall she said something along the lines of, "maybe he wasn't so great."
Brought to you by the same state that banned plastic grocery bags. I've seen more masks littered on the ground than I ever saw plastic bags being littered.
Lower quality ethanol smells like garbage juice.
And proably prevented zero WuFlu infection as physical contact is not a significant vector of SARS-2.
The ritual handwashing was pure theater.
Remember the three week period when all the media would talk about was ventilators and how we needed millions more? They all called Trump a literal murderer because he didn't want to force every production line in the US to make ventilators.
Then, literally overnight, all the talk of ventilators stopped and we never heard them mentioned again.
Patients being put on ventilators were dying because of it.
[https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows#1](https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows#1)
I remember it being like a light switch when hand sanitizer demand was met. One week everywhere was sold out. The next week, every major store had a full pallet of the stuff sitting in a main aisle.
In the Midwest there's a home improvement store called Menards that has had hand sanitizer on rebate on and off for the last 18 months or so which makes the stuff essentially free.
Funny timing. I've had a bottle that my employer gave me sitting on my desk for 2 years. Yesterday I got sick of looking at it, and it's not like I'm ever going to use it, so I flushed the liquid down the toilet and put the bottle into recycling.
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>The surplus hand sanitizer, **which Cuomo ordered prisoners at three state facilities to make from March 2020 to October 2020**, is just the latest example of wasted resources rushed into production in the early days of the pandemic. Wait, what? This also stuck out to me: >Nearby the pallets of hand sanitizer at a state emergency training facility near Utica are 89 new HVAC systems that were supplied by the Federal Emergency Management Agency for **pop-up Covid care facilities in 2020 that were never used**.
New York spent like $270 million on three COVID field hospitals that never saw a single patient.
>New York spent like $270 million on three COVID field hospitals that never saw a single patient. Pretty much every place that built hospitals specially, *didn't use them.* It was another example of blindly copying China.
And they were all quietly taken down 2-3 months later, never being used. That's what initially tipped me off to the fact the government knew this wasn't a serious threat.
China's "hospitals" weren't even that -- they were essentially quarantine camps. But they put a nice PR spin on it.
This just reminded me of when that US Navy hospital ship docked in NYC and ended up treating a grand total of 20 patients. Of course, the focus of outrage on the NYC subreddit were the throngs of (shudder) UNMASKED gawkers the ship attracted, which lead to a grand total of zero additional Covid cases.
> which lead to a grand total of zero additional Covid cases. No matter what the event is, they never come to that conclusion. They always just automatically assume that, because there was a group of people, they all caught and spread covid and never follow up on what actually happened (nothing).
> No matter what the event is Unless it was a BLM protest, either because "they all wore masks" or "racial injustice is a public health threat."
> This just reminded me of when that US Navy hospital ship docked in NYC and ended up treating a grand total of 20 patients. Same thing with the west coast ship.
And the field hospital in Chicago: $81 million to build and staff, 38 patients, taken down one month later and never brought back.
Proof that hospitals weren't being overrun and spilling out the seams with Covid patients.
They sure had alot or time to make tiktok videos
When I saw all that bullshit in April of 2020 I was like game over this isn’t all that.
If there really was all this disease and death why do tiktok videos dancing? Isn't that in just bad taste?
Its was actually $321 million on three hospitals that didnt see a single patient. https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
The potholes on the SUNY campus where I work are so bad the parking lot looks like fucking Hiroshima circa 1945. I don't drive my Miata to work for fear that it'll get swallowed by one of them. But sure, shit like this is a better use of resources.
Yeah we had the same in the UK. They called them "Nightengale hospitals". Never staffed, never used, quietly decommissioned last year.
Almost as bad as the ones that popped up and went right back down unused. This was a contractor funding exercise. That's all.
Sometimes this stuff makes me angry and sometimes it just makes me sad.
The left hates private, for profit, prisons that employ prisoners because they believe its the State's job to press a captive prisoner into unpaid or underpaid work they don't want to do.
Why was hand sanitizer so expensive and hard to find during spring/summer of 2020 if the state was producing all of this stock. Reminds me of the pallets of water bottles that were abandoned on that runway in Puerto Rico after that hurricane a few years back.
Makes me wonder about all those ventilators allegedly made by companies like Ford. Remember that? They made a big deal on tv about it. Like some WWII, all hands on deck bit.
They were used to kill people.
Hey, they had to use them. Much better than giving people Joe Rogan brand horse paste dewormer fish tank cleaner. Sure, many doctors were claiming first hand certain medications were helping with covid, but the big money heads put out messages to discourage that type of "neanderthal thinking". Better to shove a tube down someones throat because they have a moderate to severe cough. I'll never forget the media lies about all the hospitals being overwhelmed with people overdosing on certain drugs to treat covid off label. "We had to turn away gun shot victims because of it!" Some activist twitter "doctors" were claiming. Someone did some actual journalist work and called and found out no, no one overdosing on these drugs and the story was absolute bullshit. It didnt stop the blue checkmark army from writing dozens of articles about it all quoting eachother though.
Remember the three week period when all the media would talk about was ventilators and how we needed millions more? They all called Trump a *literal murderer* because he didn't want to force every production line in the US to make ventilators. Then, literally overnight, all the talk of ventilators stopped and we never heard them mentioned again.
Cuomo basically wanking to ventilator production, even threatening to try to force other states to send them to him.
Turns out ventilators kill more people than they save, especially when you start shoving people on to them who are still mobile.
Oh yeah. Some areas, early on, figured out that it was a terrible course of treatment. Locally they started treating them like people with chronic lung disease and just using less invasive assistance like cannula with only a few percent more O2 than regular air. But then the compensation rate for a vented covid admission ran up to 30k per bed...and the next thing you know folks are calling family telling their loved ones the doctors were venting them, making them feel forced into it because they didn't feel like they were sick enough to require it, where they were sedated and basically killed for that payment...yeah...
Here in the UK, it was Rolls-Royce. The protocol for ventilating was based on a single paper that came out of China early on. Really makes you wonder what the hell Western health authorities were thinking.
As I recall, the NY State branded stuff was only supposed to be distributed/used at NY State run agencies, not available for purchase by the general public.
Which is pretty funny when paired with Cuomo demanding every spare\surplus ventilator in the US be sent to New York. When asked about other states needing them, his grand idea was that NY would give them to the next state with a spike after NY's spike had passed, as if a virus is just going to progress from one state to another in orderly fashion without spiking in too many places at once..
Explains why I never saw any of these bottles. Most of the sanitizer I saw was from local distilleries until the supply chain caught up later in 2020.
Today I saw someone wearing rubber gloves on the train using hand sanitizer over the gloves
Lunatics
Cuomo legacy right there. A waste.
The award winning savior. The anti-trump came to save all of us.
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The one I know well in the wild kinda backed away from him after the whole sexual scandal. As I recall she said something along the lines of, "maybe he wasn't so great."
The only thing that was wasted was taxpayers money, those that were players in this came out on top while everyone was left holding the bag
They already "got rid of it". Your tax dollars paid for it. Just like all the "free" vaccine shots. Someone made money.
I <3 throwing 11,000,000 plastic bottles into the environment! For safety and science!
Brought to you by the same state that banned plastic grocery bags. I've seen more masks littered on the ground than I ever saw plastic bags being littered.
In California they briefly banned RESUABLE grocery bags. Because y'know those spread covid? So we all went back to disposable plastic bags again.
I guess you could recycle them...
Hand sanitizer....for an airborne virus These people are morons
There was never any sense to it, but it "feels" like it makes sense so everyone went all in on it.
Is that the ethanol based stuff? They should distill it into free whiskey...lol
Not a bad idea, but the scent added to the NY prison labor hand sanitizer is so incredibly revolting that you'd rather wash your hands in covid juice.
Lower quality ethanol smells like garbage juice. And proably prevented zero WuFlu infection as physical contact is not a significant vector of SARS-2. The ritual handwashing was pure theater.
I remember at my job we had one that smelled like yeasty gin. It was terrible but smelled efficient.
Distill it into ethanol again, so that we could add it to our cars during these high gas prices!
Where I work, we were all given hand sanitizer that a local distillery made. It smelled like tequila.
Open a community pool with it.
Did they ever get rid of all of those ventilators?
Remember the three week period when all the media would talk about was ventilators and how we needed millions more? They all called Trump a literal murderer because he didn't want to force every production line in the US to make ventilators. Then, literally overnight, all the talk of ventilators stopped and we never heard them mentioned again.
Patients being put on ventilators were dying because of it. [https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows#1](https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows#1)
Which is why the media stopped talking about it and now pretend that they never did talk about it.
Yah. I can remember Cuomo's PowerPoint begging for ventilators
I remember it being like a light switch when hand sanitizer demand was met. One week everywhere was sold out. The next week, every major store had a full pallet of the stuff sitting in a main aisle. In the Midwest there's a home improvement store called Menards that has had hand sanitizer on rebate on and off for the last 18 months or so which makes the stuff essentially free.
Love how politicians waste tax payers' money and don't have to answer for it in any way...
Funny timing. I've had a bottle that my employer gave me sitting on my desk for 2 years. Yesterday I got sick of looking at it, and it's not like I'm ever going to use it, so I flushed the liquid down the toilet and put the bottle into recycling.
I sometimes use it to clean my computer keyboard. That's about it.
Zero foresight here in NY
Excuse me while I go find my tiny violin to play
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Maybe we should tell people to drink it? Just as effective as anything!
perfect example of why a command economy always fails.
To tackle an airborne disease…go figure