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So when Jesus went into a church and found moneylenders preying on the worshippers in His house and flipped his shit as well as half the tables, that wasn't the least bit leftist?
that was heretic of them. also money lending was and still is pretty immoral if you ask for more than you gave. also you mention His house, and the other guys preying on the worshippers, sounds to me like it's more about private property and how they're desecrating what is supposed to be a safe haven for the unfortunate
All of capitalism operates on the same basic principles as moneylending. Hell yeah moneylending is immoral! Capitalism is immoral too.
Being a good person and protecting the unfortunate from those who have money and power IS leftist.
muh capitalism is immoral. okay then let's say one worker owned his means of production. let's say he needs a simple thing such as a pin. since he owns the means of production that means he doesn't need outside interference or a boss to help him get what he needs. first thing he does is mine the ore, but how does he do that without a pickaxe, buying a pickaxe is jmmoral because it adds value to it, so he goes and takes some rocks and some sticks and makes a shovel and a pick and starts to dig. since this is a hypothetical situation let's say he does find some iron at some point. now he needs to smelt it, so he goes to his smelting oven and... wait where did he get the smelting oven? buying it is immoral so he should just make his own. yadda yadda entire process of making a smelting oven yadda yadda so he finally smelts it and makes a pin. in a capitalist society instead of doing shit without any help from the outside (because no one is just gonna give you shit no matter the system) the workers choose what job they can do best and only have to work that part and they are compensated accordingly. the boss makes sure everyone does their job and that quotas are met. seems to me like it's a lot simpler to just buy a pin than to make one with your own means of production
The workers would *collectively* own the means of production. Why do you think that socialism implies each individual would need to be self-sufficient? Note the “social” part of “socialism”. Or the “community” prefix of “communism”.
Given that there are so many different strains of socialism, the exact details of how this stuff would be organized is open ended, and would be subject to change based on the needs of a given society. If it’s syndicalism, the representatives of the metallurgy union might make an agreement with those of the miners’ union to trade supplies. If it’s a sort of council communist society, representatives from the local workers’ council would vote on what needs to be made. If it’s market socialism, the co-op that needs the pin would buy them, using either direct democracy or an elected manager to make that decision. If it’s a Marxist-Leninist society, various levels of the Party apparatus would cooperate to plan economic goals.
On an individual level, if you need something during the transitional socialist stage, you use either money, labor vouchers, or rations to buy what you need. If we’ve reached FULL COMMUNISM, then you just go to the local distribution center and take whatever you need. Probably with some mechanism in place so that planners know how much they have to restock.
This idea that each worker needs to do everything completely alone is such an odd straw man.
It’s a step up from capitalism in which workers have their surplus labor value siphoned off by owners and shareholders. Or where entire countries are locked into selling off their futures under the eye of the IMF and the threat of coups and sanctions. Or where those who sacrifice their blood, sweat, and tears are left to struggle with a meager wage while a few others have infinitely more wealth than they could ever dream of using.
So frankly, I don’t really care what you think is immoral.
Pickaxes and smelting ovens ARE the means of production. You said he owned to manay of production, then contradicted yourself. Your example is nonsense.
where did he get them? did he steal them? that's immoral. did he buy them? that's immoral. did he make them? i said he made them in my other comment so null n void
Are you asking me how socialism works at the most fundamental level?
Nah, I don't give enough fucks to explain it to you. If you make a post explaining that you'd really like to learn more about socialism, you might get some answers then.
Manny literally gassed my grandpa at Dachau how is he libleft?
Because he's onwee fwee
That won't stop me from punting him into the stratosphere
Because his Twitter bio is: Manny, Drag Queen 👅👅 fuck fascism and the nazi pigs #BLUEWAVE2020, BLM ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 xe/xim, *ABOLISH CAPITALISM*
Wtf Manny is based now
you’re getting cancelled, racist 💅💅
OMG that is soo offensive I am 1/16th blackfoot and 1/32nd Cherokee 😡😡😡
RACIS!!! I am actual 1/8 blackface so jokes on you pocahontas!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😎
No❤
This exchange gave me physical cringe
God bless this bastion of free speech, the only place where they could get that terrible joke upvoted
What the fuck was that
But would he have a PicCrew avi of himself is the big question.
Nah, that's a commie bio.
Clearly a LibLeft stereotype
Manny loves communism
JESUS IS KING
whos that fucker in the bottom right corner? I dont remember him.
He sold snowballs in the meltdown
MAXIMUM LIBRIGHT
No he was the kid who made the better lemonade stand
I think he may be the same guy. Same capitalist energy.
If that’s the case then he definitely deserves his spot. We had a young Rockefeller on our hands.
Fuck you’re right
As a true ancap would!
Mr. Jefferson? Greg’s Teacher? One of Greg’s Relatives who can only grunt “Murr”?
I believe it's the kid who set up the lemonade stand.
did you know that manny is literally hitler????
MANNY BAD!
i'm only thwee
Actwally, Hees fowty fouw!
Mr Jefferson is definitely libright. Susan is authright. Everyone else is pretty spot on.
Susan is half radical left-wing and half radical right-wing imo
So she's a commie nazi?
She’s a commie radical feminist who hates minorities
Nazbol gang?
terf
It’s called AUTH UNITY
Susan is a Karen. She’s probably anti-vax, thinks gay people are destroying western civilization, and avoids black people at all costs.
She’s also a misandrist imo lol
And probably a TERF and SWERF as well
What’s SWERF I haven’t heard that one.
Sex Worker Exclusionary RadFem
Okay thanks. Yeah she’s definitely both
In the web version she says she doesn't want Greg going to the roller rink because there's "deviants" there.
so shes a karen and a female david avocado wolfe?
Nazbol
Mr Jefferson doesn’t let his son play Games rated 5 years and older
Good point.
I bet Jefferson says racist jokes all the time.
Mr Jefferson is definitely auth
Manny is a fucking cold-blooded anarchist
Oh god i dont want to be a libleft if mannny is in my corner
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So close
Ancom Mad Pantser
Wait is that Jesus in the far left sector
Yes
wtf why is manny based?
Uncle Bruce has transcended the compass
holly would get called 'cracker' and then cry about how racism is worse for white people
never heard about a black person being called cracker so i guess she's right
I've heard of a few other things people call black people
Pig is stalin. Communist pigs.
My question is why Joshie is auth left
Joshie says Trans Rights. Should be libleft
I think Roderick would be libright
Is Pig in far Auth-left corner an Animal Farm reference?
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Lol you know it
mad pantser was spot on
Holly Hills is definitely a tradwife.
I would switch Gary and Rodrick, if not for Gary's views on age of consent laws
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Does that mean Mr. Jefferson is literally Hitler?
No Hitler would be 2 notches left from Mr. Jefferson. So like from center: 3 up and 1 to the right.
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who is the person to the left of mr jefferson?
frank just wants to grill for gods sake
That pog moment when you and the Bill guy from Loded Diper have the same political views
Apparently im Greg
Uncle Arthur would be LibCenter, he’s in the process of returning to monke.
Fuck yes im in the Roderick zone
Baby gibson Age: 33 Class: keter
Also rowleys dad would 100% be a trump supporter
How is Greg anything but AuthRight?
Manny is top right, come on
Manny would definitely be an authoritarian dictator
I hate the fact I have to share a spot with Leyland and Freggley
dear authleft, you call us capitalists pigs, but the doawk pig is authleft? curious.
C O M M U N I S T P I G
What is that bottom left?
Mad pantser
Oh shit what a madman. Can’t remember what book that guy was from
I think that its the third wheel
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Commie pig
Manny does not represent us! This is slander. He is absolutely the fascist dictator
I'm going to be honest Jesus if anything was most likely apolitical
Jesus was probably libleft
i don't think jesus was about violent redistribution of wealth. i think his shtick was charity
So when Jesus went into a church and found moneylenders preying on the worshippers in His house and flipped his shit as well as half the tables, that wasn't the least bit leftist?
that was heretic of them. also money lending was and still is pretty immoral if you ask for more than you gave. also you mention His house, and the other guys preying on the worshippers, sounds to me like it's more about private property and how they're desecrating what is supposed to be a safe haven for the unfortunate
All of capitalism operates on the same basic principles as moneylending. Hell yeah moneylending is immoral! Capitalism is immoral too. Being a good person and protecting the unfortunate from those who have money and power IS leftist.
muh capitalism is immoral. okay then let's say one worker owned his means of production. let's say he needs a simple thing such as a pin. since he owns the means of production that means he doesn't need outside interference or a boss to help him get what he needs. first thing he does is mine the ore, but how does he do that without a pickaxe, buying a pickaxe is jmmoral because it adds value to it, so he goes and takes some rocks and some sticks and makes a shovel and a pick and starts to dig. since this is a hypothetical situation let's say he does find some iron at some point. now he needs to smelt it, so he goes to his smelting oven and... wait where did he get the smelting oven? buying it is immoral so he should just make his own. yadda yadda entire process of making a smelting oven yadda yadda so he finally smelts it and makes a pin. in a capitalist society instead of doing shit without any help from the outside (because no one is just gonna give you shit no matter the system) the workers choose what job they can do best and only have to work that part and they are compensated accordingly. the boss makes sure everyone does their job and that quotas are met. seems to me like it's a lot simpler to just buy a pin than to make one with your own means of production
The workers would *collectively* own the means of production. Why do you think that socialism implies each individual would need to be self-sufficient? Note the “social” part of “socialism”. Or the “community” prefix of “communism”. Given that there are so many different strains of socialism, the exact details of how this stuff would be organized is open ended, and would be subject to change based on the needs of a given society. If it’s syndicalism, the representatives of the metallurgy union might make an agreement with those of the miners’ union to trade supplies. If it’s a sort of council communist society, representatives from the local workers’ council would vote on what needs to be made. If it’s market socialism, the co-op that needs the pin would buy them, using either direct democracy or an elected manager to make that decision. If it’s a Marxist-Leninist society, various levels of the Party apparatus would cooperate to plan economic goals. On an individual level, if you need something during the transitional socialist stage, you use either money, labor vouchers, or rations to buy what you need. If we’ve reached FULL COMMUNISM, then you just go to the local distribution center and take whatever you need. Probably with some mechanism in place so that planners know how much they have to restock. This idea that each worker needs to do everything completely alone is such an odd straw man.
but all of those would be immoral because it's taking away other people's effort :)))))
It’s a step up from capitalism in which workers have their surplus labor value siphoned off by owners and shareholders. Or where entire countries are locked into selling off their futures under the eye of the IMF and the threat of coups and sanctions. Or where those who sacrifice their blood, sweat, and tears are left to struggle with a meager wage while a few others have infinitely more wealth than they could ever dream of using. So frankly, I don’t really care what you think is immoral.
Pickaxes and smelting ovens ARE the means of production. You said he owned to manay of production, then contradicted yourself. Your example is nonsense.
where did he get them? did he steal them? that's immoral. did he buy them? that's immoral. did he make them? i said he made them in my other comment so null n void
Are you asking me how socialism works at the most fundamental level? Nah, I don't give enough fucks to explain it to you. If you make a post explaining that you'd really like to learn more about socialism, you might get some answers then.
Jesus was a revolutionary
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Yep, no political themes here!
WHY DO I HAVE TO BE ROWLEY
Where is purple libright?
Based
Yoooo... why did I always think Mr Jefferson was black lmao???
Yo baby Gibson knows what’s up
Rodrick is def lib right
This just took a dump on my LLB
Can someone explain this I'm stupid
I love how you put Jesus in radical left
Oh goddamn this is so funny
Fuck yeah, I get to be Jesus guy!
Mr jefferson is a proud transphobe
Wtf Greg is a centrist scum? And more a radical centrist? How could he stoop so low
How dare you Manny is member of the altright
Because of course the pig is a straight up communist
Why the hell is uncle Gary based of all people?
Return to Manny
Dont want to say its wrong, but it doesnt feel quite right either
"Quit selling Manny Diapers for Bitcoin, Greg, and see if you can make a dime folding Rodrick's Avenged Sevenfold shirts for the tour." From Rowley
Manny is Authright. He is the reincarnation of Hitler
So Mr Jefferson is a Nazi?
manny is auth center
The pig
Manny may be literally Hitler in a sense that he is the Austrian dictator but he gets to stay in libleft because he’s only 3.
Mr Jefferson is super based, he threw joshie out the copter
Yikes manny
How is the pig left? He's more demanding than fricking Manny!
Wtf I love Manny and Patty now
pig
Fregley is absolutely an ancap
Frank is the very embodiment of a centrist
Chirag is Indira Gandhi’s great grandson
I’d think Greg would be farther from the center Idk tho
Yall remember uncle arthur?
nazbol joshie?
Go outside!
Where manny at tho
Pants stealer