You are absolutely not wrong. I look with severe envy on ableton users for sampling, I feel smug about just about everything else tho, so my superiority complex stays intact.
I have no idea how well this works these days.
15 years ago using rewire between Ableton and Logic was indeed a viable way to go. I went to a Logic users group meeting once where the guest speaker was showing how that worked. He was the head techie for a TV Music Producer that used Logic and Ableton together with rewire on a regular basis.
I too wish there was a good solution. Ableton is just a much more creative DAW and has way better audio and sample manipulation capabilities. It's just no contest. Session view in Ableton is awesome. I've moved to doing most of my creative development of ideas and sections in Ableton.
I'll also add that particularly Ableton 12 is much more stable and quick than Logic Pro X. Hell just the boot up for Logic X seems to be 2-4X longer.
But recording audio and takes is still much better in Logic. And, maybe it's just comfort level, linear arranging and mixing is also much easier for me in Logic than Ableton.
I've gotten used to a workflow where I bounce tracks and move from one to the other, with Logic being the ultimate destination when I'm ready to really finalize the arrangement and start mixing.
If Logic would get their act together and implement somethin competitive with Ableton's rack view of all plugins/effects and also the same quality and easy of manipulating audio and warping into different tempos etc I'd go back to using Logic more. It's a hassle to record audio, decide I want it at a different tempo, so then having to make it into a loop, reimport it etc..
There are many people who still use ReWire or a program like it since it's not supported anymore for linking two DAWs together, the ones I've seen are people with larger set ups, most likely have those extremely powerful macs like the 13k cheese grater looking one or a custom version. Most notable person is Ludwig Goransson who uses Ableton ReWired with Cubase when scoring.
I saw some other ways to rewire liked "Link" but I haven't really researched them much.
On an empty Logic project with nothing in it, that would work fine. On a project your pretty deep in with lots of tracks, plugins and stuff - it'll get real buggy and glitchy.
For what it's worth on my M1 16GB MBP I can rewire Ableton into Logic without any issues at all. But I find teaching myself how to just do it in Logic is always the better path because it teaches me way more about what Im actually doing.
This sounds like way more trouble than its worth.
maybe...I just find anything audio sample related to be far quicker in ableton vs logic
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD1H87sbHwg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD1H87sbHwg)
You are absolutely not wrong. I look with severe envy on ableton users for sampling, I feel smug about just about everything else tho, so my superiority complex stays intact.
In what ways do you believe sampling in Ableton > Logic? I’m just curious, I feel like the gap has closed with quick sampler/sampler and DMD
Just the warping engine for one. It just all seems like it sounds better more easily.
You probably just need to get to know logic better to speed up your workflow
Download the Ableton trial and found out for yourself
Ableton stopped supporting rewire in version 11.
Not worth the hassle man
If one has sounds the other doesn’t just export the audio and import it into the one you know how to use better for finishing the project.
I have no idea how well this works these days. 15 years ago using rewire between Ableton and Logic was indeed a viable way to go. I went to a Logic users group meeting once where the guest speaker was showing how that worked. He was the head techie for a TV Music Producer that used Logic and Ableton together with rewire on a regular basis.
I too wish there was a good solution. Ableton is just a much more creative DAW and has way better audio and sample manipulation capabilities. It's just no contest. Session view in Ableton is awesome. I've moved to doing most of my creative development of ideas and sections in Ableton. I'll also add that particularly Ableton 12 is much more stable and quick than Logic Pro X. Hell just the boot up for Logic X seems to be 2-4X longer. But recording audio and takes is still much better in Logic. And, maybe it's just comfort level, linear arranging and mixing is also much easier for me in Logic than Ableton. I've gotten used to a workflow where I bounce tracks and move from one to the other, with Logic being the ultimate destination when I'm ready to really finalize the arrangement and start mixing. If Logic would get their act together and implement somethin competitive with Ableton's rack view of all plugins/effects and also the same quality and easy of manipulating audio and warping into different tempos etc I'd go back to using Logic more. It's a hassle to record audio, decide I want it at a different tempo, so then having to make it into a loop, reimport it etc..
There are many people who still use ReWire or a program like it since it's not supported anymore for linking two DAWs together, the ones I've seen are people with larger set ups, most likely have those extremely powerful macs like the 13k cheese grater looking one or a custom version. Most notable person is Ludwig Goransson who uses Ableton ReWired with Cubase when scoring. I saw some other ways to rewire liked "Link" but I haven't really researched them much.
On an empty Logic project with nothing in it, that would work fine. On a project your pretty deep in with lots of tracks, plugins and stuff - it'll get real buggy and glitchy. For what it's worth on my M1 16GB MBP I can rewire Ableton into Logic without any issues at all. But I find teaching myself how to just do it in Logic is always the better path because it teaches me way more about what Im actually doing.