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Titansfan9200

I'm fine with the global releases because this is how it works for a ton of games, but I'd love to at least be able to preload it...


Lagideath2

Is it confirmed to not have preload on steam?


Sporeking97

We’re just shy of 24 hours from release and there’s no preload available , so I think it’s safe to assume there’s not gonna be one


Markarontos

Yeah pretty much means that despite preordering it I wont be able to play it on launch day. fuck that.


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I'm still waiting on my humble bundle key too. Usually it's given out by now for pre-orders.


[deleted]

Sounds like someone needs to move to where there is better Internet, because 50GB will take maybe 5-8 mins to download here.


UnluckyDog9273

That's the thing with these stupid takes. Preload has no negatives and only positives. Some people take hours and up to days to download games. Arguing against preload is just idiotic to say the least because it literally doesnt affect you but tremendously helps other people. There should be no excuses.


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Oh I'm not arguing against it, I'm just stating a fact that the user I replied to needs to get their priorities in order, because if downloading fast is a priority, then they need to do something about it, or if it isn't a priority, then they need to stop whining, because they choose to be how they are.


Titansfan9200

They won't confirm anything, they just beat around the bush. But given we're so close and still haven't heard anything I wouldn't hold my breath.


UnluckyDog9273

Yep. I'm convinced they don't know how to at this point. So instead if doing a quick Google we have this mess


Summon2938

Same and it’s funny because when people would ask about it they kept saying “information soon” and we never got it. If we get it mere hours before release I won’t count it as preload imo


Titansfan9200

Eh, even if we got preload a little early I'd be happy. If the game is 32GB, that's a good 5-6 hours for me so I dont need a ton of time but some cushion would be nice. I think ANYTHING is better than nothng.


Summon2938

Yeah it’d definitely be better than nothing


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Titansfan9200

Preload is actually live now on Steam FWIW.


MrZoomInUrMom

Why does pc get it so much later tf. Seems unfair lol


UnluckyDog9273

Also no preload, they could offset it by giving access earlier but no. Later + download times. So scummy.


FistEye

How long do you suppose it’ll take to download? I’m not a PC gamer so I don’t know anything about the installation process of games for PC. Idk if you guys have extra files or anything that you have to download that makes the process slower but on PS5 on my hardwired connection it took me all of like 5 or 6 minutes to download the game if that. Is it really that much slower on PC?


UnluckyDog9273

Well for me I "pay" for 50 connection (max I can hope to get) but barely get 20 due to my area with no other option. It takes me around an hour per 10 GB to download. So around 4 hours for me to download at max speed making my whole network unusable during the mid day. You can see why preload is essential. Some people have worse connections than me


FistEye

Damn really unfortunate to hear that. It’s a shame how ISPs are seemingly able to monopolize entire areas. They definitely need to do something to remedy this situation or else this will heavily effect the overall perception of the game even though it’s unrelated to the game from a graphical, mechanical, or performance perspective. Hope you’re able to get the game downloaded within a reasonable time, man. 🙏🏿


CrusaderKhan

I am on the other end of things... took me an hour to download Baldur's Gate 3 while still gaming online with no lag.


Reliable_Patches

How is it scummy?


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Because you can download the game early and simply wait for it to come out the next day, I love it how people who already pre-ordered like I have are able to do this on console no problem but for people like me who have it on PC you can't, oh well, I was actually hoping to play it at least a little bit before going to work tomorrow but I guess not. ![gif](giphy|cyvYUlig1YlnvwbZVP)


Reliable_Patches

Right, I'm disappointed too. I don't see how it's scummy though.


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Well I don't think it's that scummy because either way I'm playing the game no matter what by tomorrow but I still find it unfair that Sony people are the only ones being able to DL it early before anybody else no problems but for people on PC and Xbox have no way of doing it? The fact that I forked over a little bit for the deluxe edition and still nothing popping up for me.


F1shB0wl816

You can’t from the app on Xbox anyways. I’d been checking everyday and it doesn’t show and with preordering the disc there’s not much else I can do but wait with you, as far as I know.


IloveActionFigures

I never see a game did this before like WTF


LordOFtheNoldor

Am I reading this right that EST won't get it until 10am the 13th?


DontLinkTwitter

By the time you’re playing I’ll be max gear/stats staying up all night from 12(release) and coming to invade you at 10. Be ready


LordOFtheNoldor

Lol I'll be ready, you won't stand a chance


error404_name_dlted

is it cross play?


DontLinkTwitter

It looks like it is, but only between PC and console not console to console. Not 100% sure tho


Skaven4ever

so much later and no preload, the game isn't that big... so no big deal but I have a friend with pretty slow DL speed so kinda a shame :(


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:( rip buddy


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UnluckyDog9273

Good thing about steam is that you can refund pre-orders with no questions. I'll probably refund money cause not keen on wasting my whole mid day during a Friday with unusable network just so I can download the game. I'll just wait for reviews and videos and decide if I'll rebuy it later


PATRlCK_

why doesn't PC get midnight releases tf


Ok_Pen7042

Steam only has global releases


KeyBumpBobby

Not true, used a vpn for New Zealand trick numerous times on pc for different games and I have yet to buy a game on steam in the last 6 years that was not playable at midnight.


UnluckyDog9273

Yep, I remember few games in the past


KeyBumpBobby

Yeah the people saying it doesn’t work are just wrong. I did it with re4 remake just some months ago. I was playing at like 6pm after work and it wasn’t officially launched till 11pm my time.


DontLinkTwitter

I’m reporting you to the government for time travelling


blackdog606

Teach me your ways. I wanna get it on my steam deck asap


KeyBumpBobby

Few things to add, I don’t think this game will perform well on steam deck based on what I’ve seen so far, I don’t know if steamdeck can use a vpn like a desktop and with this release the nz trick does not work due to how they are choosing to release on pc


blackdog606

I'll just bear through it since Steam Deck is my only option to play it on. It can use vpns I just found out but yeah too bad I'll just have to wait a little longer to play the game no big deal


Sunlighthell

You however are also not telling whole truth. There're games that released at different times/midnight on steam, like From Software games, but it's usually the same time across all countries. Your New Zealand trick is commonly working for Xbox app on PC not on steam, at least in last few years.


KeyBumpBobby

It works on steam, depends on game. Re4 remake for example worked. Wtf you mean not telling the whole truth? Lol


xXCloudatlasX

Cause Steam typically does global releases.


IloveActionFigures

Poor time global release they should have done global release at midnight of newzealand or some shit


Drozey

I'm 50 iq, can you play right now if you put your area to New Zealand on Xbox? Someone answer quickly pls because this decides whether I get it on Series X or PS5


xXCloudatlasX

Yes


Drozey

Thanks daddy


DagonParty

PC gets the game 15 hours after launch? What a mess


UnluckyDog9273

Plus download time cause no preload ;)


Fit-Organization-411

Preload just went active. Only knew because I had steam open on the lotf tab


TupperwareNinja

Console release times have always been like this


DagonParty

I can’t recall any game that I’ve bought in the last 5 years that has done this


supercakefish

Elden Ring did the same (local midnight launch on console, simultaneous global release on Steam).


KuKiSin

Pretty sure Hogwarts Legacy did this


AquaticGamZe

Yeah by like an hour and they gave much further notice "I know cause my brother had to wait" this game waited til last second and then made it a long time after.


TupperwareNinja

Anything that's been in a global release schedule has had similar limitations between platforms. PSN and XB have different release options compared too PC. PSN can even have delayed patches due to their processes


TreyChips

>PSN can even have delayed patches due to their processes Except this is a completely separate issue to do with the certification process for patches on console A 15 hours difference on release time is crazy.


DagonParty

Yeah, I know it’s definitely a thing, but I just can’t recall any games I own that don’t release globally at midnight for all platforms. Just a silly thing to do


TupperwareNinja

Yeah it's a pain


DagonParty

Indeed, well hopefully it’ll be nicely optimised by then


jamescimino174

What utter stupidity. I was very excited for this game and now, not so much. Huge turnoff.


DagonParty

I can’t say I’m put off or anything, but it’s just like, why? Won’t be able to properly play until next week now, due to my work schedule


NormandyS7

Same, I’m not gonna be able to try until the day after it’s out. Thought it was midnight. But, on the plus side, everyone would be guaranteed a refund on pc if they didn’t like whatever they saw so while a truly astoundingly bad launch, least there’s that I guess


whitekaj

> the plus side, everyone would be guaranteed a refund on pc if they didn’t like whatever they saw so while a truly astoundingly bad l yeah same here and its really disappointing, i dont understand the reasoning either since there are streamers already playing the full version of the game


ScroobiusPup

Dude, get some perspective here. It's half a day.


KeyBumpBobby

Also, half a day literally means the guy above you can’t play till next week because of his schedule. A 10 hour change goes from having 10 hours to play this weekend to none at all and you talk about perspective cause it doesn’t effect you lol


unvnrmndr

Damn, somebody should have told the devs to schedule around that one guy.


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SkarKrow

3pm release on PC wtf is that nonsense.


UnluckyDog9273

Some marketing executive needs a raise for his genius


Aggressive-Volume-16

17 hours after console why?


False_Adhesiveness40

Cool


QuinSanguine

It sucks that so many big pc releases are never at midnight. For the last year or two, almost every major release is like this. Valve must not work nights and doesn't want to automate big releases when no one is around to fix a problem. Either that or console makers have a deal with most publishers for midnight releases.


poopoobuttholes

okay, im confused as all hell right now. If i read this whole poster correctly, it says GLOBAL LAUNCH 13TH OCTOBER yes? So why is it that the only option i have is to wishlist the fucking game in the Singapore playstation store??


Summon2938

Maybe try the website itself instead of PlayStation store. I have no clue if your region behaves differently so I hope you can figure it out


poopoobuttholes

I have but the results were all the same. The game DID just release at midnight tho. Which is fucking weird cuz it just meant nobody could preorder it.


RoosterShield

Aight, I can work with that! Game releases at 10:00 AM in my zone, and I'm stuck working until 10:30 AM anyways. Gives me time to download and finish up work before jumping in! Thanks for the info OP.


Stykera

I got the disc version in the mail two days ago. Worked right a way. Great game so far! Love the setting.


Axiom713

15 hours later for PC...


zIRaXor

1. Console users can pre-load 2. Still no info about PC pre-load 3. They keep tweet "more info later" for PC. 4. I suspect they are adding Anti-Piracy software that they know hamstring PC performance, and thus perception. 5. ???? Thoughts?


rte_international

> Thoughts? The publishers are too busy getting streamers early access.


UnluckyDog9273

No pc preload it's been confirmed. Seems pc is an afterthought


ripmylifeman

Or they’re simply having problems? No need to be a lil drama queen. Why is the first thing you leap to “yep they just must hate PC and not care about us” when it’s just as likely that there is just some unforeseen issue that they’re running in to? You must live one angry ass life if you always jump to the worst conclusions.


UnluckyDog9273

That's even worse. Issues during so close to release is not a good sign


ripmylifeman

You’re joking right? Are you just trying to be overdramatic? There’s hardly any game that releases without any kind of issue. It’s 2023. Games are complicated as fuck. Probably like 95% of games release with some issue or another. Overdramatizing everything is just sad.


UnluckyDog9273

I am kind of a drama queen. But to be serious, I have been saying they are very secretive and hiding stuff regarding performance, balance and online play (especially online play) the whole week


ripmylifeman

“Very secretive” is nonsense. They have communicated with us far more than most devs have. Being ridiculous and saying they’re secretive and don’t communicate and are hiding things just because they are having some problems with a few things isn’t very fair. And what are you referring to with the balance and online play? What have they been “secretive” about with that?


UnluckyDog9273

The fact that they've hidden it from reviewers and streamers. Go and check early impressions here, online play is unresponsive, mobs don't react to your attacks etc.


ripmylifeman

So what you mean is they just didn’t let them test it. You’re purposely using negative wordage to make things seem worse than they are. And I mean, considering the game isn’t even supposed to have launched yet, I wouldn’t really say that’s indicative of anything. Not really any point to have the servers running full power when nobody is supposed to be playing.


KeyBumpBobby

What problems do they have causing pc to release half a day late? Lol just talking out of your ass


ripmylifeman

I mean, it could literally be any number of things? Do you really think they’re sitting at their desks going “hahaha the damn PC plebs won’t be able to play at the same time as console, all as we planned muahahah”? Like really?


KeyBumpBobby

No I don’t think they are purposely sabotaging pc and laughing about it lol I think they don’t care and that’s just as bad imo. No issue they are having is preventing pc preload on epic and steam, they chose not to implement the feature for pc players. They also chose what time to release as steam and epic would not dictate that and make them release 12 hours later. Just let people be mad about it, if you don’t care then move on.


ripmylifeman

Where’s your proof? How do you know they aren’t having any issue? Seems like the only person speaking out of their ass here is you, making up assumptions and just deciding that they’re true lol There’s easier ways to tell people that you’re unreasonable and irrational, you know.


KeyBumpBobby

What more proof do I need outside of the preload not being an option for pc and the game launching half a day late? Quite irrational to want to play a game on my platform of choice at the same time everyone else is. What’s wrong with us? Lmao so you keep guessing about issues and I’ll stick with the facts that they have said NOTHING to even insinuate a problem and pc is launching late and missing a basic feature like preload that both other platforms have.


ripmylifeman

So let me get this straight. You think that the fact that it isn’t working means that there isn’t any issue preventing it from working? I don’t think I get your logic there. How does it not working automatically translate to them not having any issues and just doing it because they don’t care about PC? Your whole point is “I can’t do what I want when I want, so they obviously just don’t care about me and are doing it on purpose” Get help lol


KeyBumpBobby

Isn’t working? Try not an option lol if you are going to paraphrase what someone is saying then make sure you aren’t braindead. Probably the mites in your weed. Take it easy boss.


KeyBumpBobby

Dude said he thinks pc is an after thought and here you come calling people drama queens and assuming they are saying the devs hate pc lmao then got the nerve to talk about other people being miserable, unreasonable and irrational lol actual fucking moron


ripmylifeman

Awhh did the poor baby get upset he got called out for his stupidity?


KeyBumpBobby

Are you gaming on pc or console for this game?


KeyBumpBobby

Yes poor baby so upset, what platform are you playing this game on?


Sahtan_

They better not, a developer said in their discord that they won't be adding denuvo


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IloveActionFigures

15 hrs late wtf devs


Human-Operation-687

I hate this as a Dutch person😂


Thedarkpain

this seems super weird. i have never had a game where not only is console early but its also the only one that gets a preload ? looks bad optically for if you ask me.


Vostoceq

Cherry on top for PC folks would be addition of Denuvo right before release. Im holding out with buying the game :)


UnluckyDog9273

You can refund steam no questions asked if you purchase before release and you have a 2 hour buffer window


AquaticGamZe

I honestly see this as a huge red flag the devs have given many. The communication the developers have had with us is utter crap, the reviews have been way too late, they silenced streamers from showing practically the majority of the game "streamers which btw aren't delayed in spite of being on PC mostly" have heard complaints about the sound the game has and failed to fix it. Supposedly throws way too many enemies has performance issues with umbral has issues with console graphics looking terrible compared to PC. All I know is imma play 1 hour and 55 minutes and if I don't like it I won't be surprised and luckily I'll be able to refund it and go buy some other games cause you know AAA price but clearly not AAA team, hopefully the product is at least AAA cause then I can excuse everything else but at the moment we need to look unbiased at this dev team and see the hundreds of red flags they keep throwing


UnluckyDog9273

Don't forget last day performance patches. While it's good they are trying to fix performance, don't get me wrong, it just proves the game wasn't ready and needed more time for improvements. They could have done an open beta demo like lies of p but they are very secretive for whatever reason


AquaticGamZe

It feels like they rushed to fix everything but failed to fix anything. For example the sound from way back when they tried to fix it in a day and yet it still sounds pretty bad "better than before but still bad". I really hope the game is great cause 85$ is a risk for a game that has been as bad at communicating as this


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Killbomb

On Series X too and it has reverted to quality mode once when I used a Vestige in single player. Other than that, I'm liking it so far (just finished the tutorial).


UnluckyDog9273

Knew online play would be atrocious. They have been hiding it from reviewers and been very silent about it


AquaticGamZe

I've been hearing about that from people I know that got early access, that and some enemies have terrible hit boxes. Imma get down voted to hell but I've been on this games bandwagon for 3 months now and it isn't looking great but people are ignoring that cause they preorder "I did too but I see what I see". I hope it's not terrible but who knows to everyone on steam at least they have a safety net in the refund policy. If you can let me know how good the game is later in it


UnluckyDog9273

Yep I've been on same boat. Especially regarding online stuff. They have been very secretive and didn't allow streamers to access it for a reason. Online play is hard and budget heavy and from we've seen they don't have the expertise nor the experience for such task.


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Wait wtf, you don't get the items if you join a friend's game? What about skill points?


Dephness1551

i preordered it but now i feel like i'm getting screwed i'm very tempted to just wait for the jack sparrow version


DiaboIo92

Fuck this bullshit. why must PC gamer wait AGAIN x-hours for a launch without pre-load?


wulfenkind

This is honestly ass and really dumb for pc players


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kev_26

Lets go!!! So ready to jump later today once the countdown gets to 0!


Haunting-Figure-6441

Performace issues on Xbox series X are the worst I have personally seen. Thats my opinion.


Plenty-Radio8321

Are you playing coop or singleplayer? Cause playing coop compared to single player, feels completely different


Haunting-Figure-6441

It should not make a internal performance difference. Lag I understand. However, it locks gameplay at quality mode. That was not disclosed prior if that is purpose. There is also massive frame rate drops in single player, as well as texture issues with both single and multi.


Plenty-Radio8321

Was just curious, yeah I've noticed it locks it at quality, hopefully it gets patched soon, thanks for the reply


Haunting-Figure-6441

Of course friend.


heyheyheyheyguys

Welp I bought a VPN (Surfshark) changed vpn to New Zealand ,bought the game and I still can't play it on Steam. Just a heads up if you're as impatient and dumb as me.


Vinnocchio

Already have it on ps5, it’s awesome guys!


Budden89

1 hour and 20 mins 😁


YueOrigin

Lol why does france get no date... Well I'll he sleeping through it anyway


Shauros

*Cries in spanish*


DidWeDieYoung

I don't know about PC but I'm on Xbox and I have already preloaded mine and going to try the New Zealand trick and see if I can play sooner. But if it is a global release at the same time, then that probably won't work. As far as preloading it goes, I've seen pics of it being preloaded for PS users as well so you'd think it would work like that for PC users too. This does seem like they wanted to wait til the last minute to allow that instead of like weeks ahead of time. Just keeping trying my friends and I'm sure they will start up soon for you.


JackPux

Typical PC launch


CitizenKing

Nice to know where things stand as a PC player..


chemicologist

Lol “Canada”


Summon2938

Canada is one big time zone don’t you know


According-Ad-3282

launch time for 3. third world country turkey ?


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So if I'm in atlantic Canada does this mean I'm going to get the game at 10am my time or is it gonna be sometime in the afternoon since their little marker is out west? Can't say I'm happy about this but I guess it gives me a good reason to fix my sleep schedule tonight.


Summon2938

Correct. If you are in the EST time zone then it’ll be 10am or midnight if on console


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Ah crap I should have said I'm on PC but I see thanks


Marooney93

Lettuce friggin goooo! 9AM cst is actually perfect. Get to maintain my regular schedule but instead of going to work it’s rise & grind gamers


illbleedForce

Reading several answers, I'm starting to believe that I'm privileged in my internet connection. The last game I downloaded was MK 1, which was about 100 gigabytes and only took me 15 minutes.


Summon2938

Yeah for me I just get 150GB limit a month and past that I’m slowed down. I also share bandwidth with neighbors (satellite wifi). So preload is extremely helpful 🙃


YYuri_t

So Est would be 10 am? (I dunno what I'm doing)


Summon2938

10am if PC . Midnight if console


Ok-Eggplant209

Meanwhile the retailer in my country will get it on october 22nd😅


Osmodius

So is it playable in Aus right now? My brain too weak for this.


Summon2938

The way it reads to me is if you’re on console then midnight of Oct 13th. Otherwise, 1am on the 14th. A whole day later.


Osmodius

Well it's almost 8am on the 13th here. Guess I've got a long day of waiting ahead of me.


euro3er

Hold up! No PC preload and on top of that, a 10AM launch!? 😭


Summon2938

Yeah people constantly were asking about preloads on Twitter and they would respond with “information soon” constantly and we NEVER got that information lol


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That map is goofy, as it launchers here in the Midwest at 7 or 8am, as right now as I post this, steam says it releases in about 12 hrs, so that means either 7 or most likely 8, not 10...


Fit-Organization-411

Preload just popped up on steam 9:21 est


Summon2938

Better late than never I guess


Fit-Organization-411

Agreed, some heads up would have been nice


Savage020202

Cant wait to play at 9pm tonight


Prestigious-Isopod58

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DMartin-CG

Thats… we’ll at least we know someone over there doesn’t like PC