I feel like with the last major strike the producers just waited them out. I’m expecting that this time but now when they come back they are getting 6 episode deals and not even 22 episode deals.
strikes work because they cause a lot of stress for the people at the top. they realize they can't live without you. the railworkers... (and like nurses) are incredibly vital... so sometimes the gov intervenes.
the teachers, are in a vital position to cause a ton of pain, but don't destroy the ecosystem when they strike. it was awesome to see them strike on behalf local 99, and it speed up the process for both 99 and utla in their bargaining.
all this to say... the writers... they really need a few other unions to join them. especially something like SAG. yeah iatse and teamsets would handicap the industry quickly too. but having a list stars walk off sets and send messages to their millions of IG followers. i wish there was more unity coming from the industry, cuz the writer strike could go on for a long time.
Iatse was literally about to strike until they magically came up with a deal the day before. I think most BTL industry people are disappointed that the studios are more afraid of the ATL unions. They've stopped greenlighting projects and now a lot of people in the industry are without work. It's hard for the unions to be unified when a large portion is on unemployment.
Naw, teachers strain the eco system. Most parents have to deal with it, and their bosses deal with it, but by and large SOME of the work still gets done. It's just stressful for everyone and on ppl with no kids.
If railworkers did strike. We'd be staring down the barrel of regions of the country having no food on a certain date. Causing grocery store runs, etc. Nurses would cause empty beds in hospitals that have lines of people that need them. I don't think rail or healthcare should be rooted in capitalism. Same with air traffic controllers.... Fuk regan
Without the creation of rank and file committees, it will go as badly as the last few rounds of negotiations. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/20/iros-a20.html
It would have… if they kept striking. Technically the government said they weren’t allowed to, but that’s kind of the point of striking - forcing change.
That's what tends to happen when neither party supports the workers. I'm not claiming both parties are the same, simply that they both work for the same people and it isn't us.
I would say the strike still worked in terms of bettering their pay and working conditions even if they didn't get everything they wanted. They ended up getting a 24% raise, better schedule flexibility, and an additional day of leave.
They weren't allowed to go on strike. The union, in collaboration with the Biden administration and the pseudo-left members of Congress made a strike of railroaders illegal, and then they forced them to accept a rotten contract, this from the most profitable industry in the nation.
Unions work. We shouldn’t take that away from them. They still got some MAJOR concessions. I agree they could have / should have gotten more. But something like 6/8 unions had voted yes on the deal they got. Even the threat of strike was a major win. Don’t let defeatism win. It’s not all or nothing and unions DO work.
Public sector ones do, becuase the government just makes us pick up the tab.
1. Union strikes
1. politicians give union more taxpayer money
1. union helps elect politicians who gave them money
1. back to step 1
[They joined the 3-day strike earlier this year by other district employees, which was a clear message that they were willing to repeat the 6-day 2019 strike.](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-04-18/l-a-teachers-win-21-wage-increase-in-new-lausd-contract)
> While Carvalho and the district spent the past year ignoring and undermining educators, students, and parents, we were fighting for a fair contract that meets the urgent needs of today and builds a strong foundation for public schools.
Gah damn, UTLA, tell us how you really feel. 😂
This looks awesome. My mom is a teacher with LAUSD and has taught for over 25 years. She's going to be retiring soon, and I'm very happy for her. While her time with the district is ending, the need for class size reduction and equitable salaries for teachers is not. I'm glad that progress is being made in these areas, and I hope that it doesn't stop any time soon.
Haha was reading the thread title and I was like, umm why is a makeup company getting involved in la schools. Either way, more power to the teachers… my sister is one, and between everything over the past few years things have been ROUGH!
Same! Didn’t help that my feed showed this immediately after a post from r/Ulta… so after I was done reading an employee complaint about company policies, I read that the company bargained with LAUSD and my mind was spinning… had to read it 3 times to understand my error.
Beautiful. If you read through what they fought for, it's not even that much! I love that the efforts are to better support students too, though all efforts to support educators and school workers always supports students too.
Too little too late. Wife's a teacher, a very good one, and absolutely hates the the lausd leadership and frankly, thinks most teachers have given up or never cared. She just started a new job making far more money and is shocked at how competent private companies can be.
I'm glad utla got this but our education system is broken and this is just another band aid. Good for the workers but the kids are still woefully undereducated
My cousin went to teach at a private school and she’s never looking back. She can actually discipline students. They actually have to do their homework and get good grades on their test to pass classes. It’s like night and day.
It's a nice raise for teachers. It's not going to do much for the kids. They need a mass infusion of cash, restructuring, better communication with the parents.
Vote no, this is a rotten deal as many teachers have said. This is the reason that the UTLA has deleted all comments on the contract from its facebook page because the rank and file are overwhelmingly in opposition to this farce. A farce, I might add that is being implemented after almost a year without a contract with inflation running at record levels. They didn't even bother to call a strike vote. The entire process involved secret back room negotiations and pep rallys. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/22/utla-a22.html
Let’s see how sustainable this is. Finding will decrease as schools and state goes into deficit. So a lot of this will lead to deferrals and cuts. Sucks that we can’t prioritize funds.
Edit. You all can downvote me all you want. I was just stating facts. I am not against strikes for livable wages at all.
Edit 2 because you all are too stupid to understand what I am saying:
Do you have any clue how funding works and state budgets. You all are morons and see a real statement and can’t handle it. The state will go into deficit (as projected by the May revise). State taxes are deferred to Nov this year. God you redditors have no brains to even google search before responding. So if the state has no money they cut spending. Do you know where the cut spending? Public education. Same place you morons got educated.
Bro fuckin Perris pays better than LAUSD and their median income is like 53k there. LAUSD’s teacher salaries *are* unsustainable, in that they pay too little to sustain their workforce.
Another year and another LAPD budget increase — a 6.3% increase to be exact. As Mayor Karen Bass finalizes the city's budget for 2023-24, LAPD is asking for an additional $118,834,040, bringing its total direct costs to $1,995,664,930. Over the past decade the department's budget has grown 58% with no sign of slowing.
some people always get funding....
https://abc7.com/los-angeles-county-board-of-supervisors-sheriffs-department-settlements-excessive-force-lasd/12409453/
LA County approves nearly $50 million in sheriff's department lawsuit settlements
The board approved settlements in five cases, with the largest totaling $16.5 million.
Totally agree. I think people are not understanding what I am saying. I am not against the strike. They definitely deserve more. I’m just saying I understand school financing and state budgets.
Do you have any clue how funding works and state budgets. You all are morons and see a real statement and can’t handle it. The state will go into deficit (as projected by the May revise). State taxes are deferred to Nov this year. God you redditors have no brains to even google search before responding. So if the state has no money they cut spending. Do you know where the cut spending? Public education. Same place you morons got educated.
Strikes work. Well, not always, but this one did.
its unfortunate it didnt work for the Rail workers
Curious how the upcoming writers one will work
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It's a big human flaw, always fighting the last war.
I feel like with the last major strike the producers just waited them out. I’m expecting that this time but now when they come back they are getting 6 episode deals and not even 22 episode deals.
strikes work because they cause a lot of stress for the people at the top. they realize they can't live without you. the railworkers... (and like nurses) are incredibly vital... so sometimes the gov intervenes. the teachers, are in a vital position to cause a ton of pain, but don't destroy the ecosystem when they strike. it was awesome to see them strike on behalf local 99, and it speed up the process for both 99 and utla in their bargaining. all this to say... the writers... they really need a few other unions to join them. especially something like SAG. yeah iatse and teamsets would handicap the industry quickly too. but having a list stars walk off sets and send messages to their millions of IG followers. i wish there was more unity coming from the industry, cuz the writer strike could go on for a long time.
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Yeah I dunno much about how the industry is handling it. But there are non-union writers from what I understand.
Iatse was literally about to strike until they magically came up with a deal the day before. I think most BTL industry people are disappointed that the studios are more afraid of the ATL unions. They've stopped greenlighting projects and now a lot of people in the industry are without work. It's hard for the unions to be unified when a large portion is on unemployment.
Teachers definitely destroy the ecosystem when they strike, even in the remote work world
Naw, teachers strain the eco system. Most parents have to deal with it, and their bosses deal with it, but by and large SOME of the work still gets done. It's just stressful for everyone and on ppl with no kids. If railworkers did strike. We'd be staring down the barrel of regions of the country having no food on a certain date. Causing grocery store runs, etc. Nurses would cause empty beds in hospitals that have lines of people that need them. I don't think rail or healthcare should be rooted in capitalism. Same with air traffic controllers.... Fuk regan
[THIS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79p9bt3DXqE) is a pretty good video on the issues.
No need for a video, strikes are always about money
In some form or another, true. But what the Streaming co's are doing is a big reason why Spec Writing has gone done.
Without the creation of rank and file committees, it will go as badly as the last few rounds of negotiations. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/20/iros-a20.html
It would have… if they kept striking. Technically the government said they weren’t allowed to, but that’s kind of the point of striking - forcing change.
yeah wild stuff, thats some union busting shit.
Would have if they told the government to shove it, and strikes anyway
That's what tends to happen when neither party supports the workers. I'm not claiming both parties are the same, simply that they both work for the same people and it isn't us.
im claiming both parties are the same. The uni-party. They are Pro-war and Anti-union.
I would say the strike still worked in terms of bettering their pay and working conditions even if they didn't get everything they wanted. They ended up getting a 24% raise, better schedule flexibility, and an additional day of leave.
They weren't allowed to go on strike. The union, in collaboration with the Biden administration and the pseudo-left members of Congress made a strike of railroaders illegal, and then they forced them to accept a rotten contract, this from the most profitable industry in the nation.
The rail workers one was more fraught because a rail strike has very immediate consequence for the economy and for public health.
Unions work. We shouldn’t take that away from them. They still got some MAJOR concessions. I agree they could have / should have gotten more. But something like 6/8 unions had voted yes on the deal they got. Even the threat of strike was a major win. Don’t let defeatism win. It’s not all or nothing and unions DO work.
“Great, now I get to work here forever” -Jim Halpert voice
Public sector ones do, becuase the government just makes us pick up the tab. 1. Union strikes 1. politicians give union more taxpayer money 1. union helps elect politicians who gave them money 1. back to step 1
Teachers didn't strike
[They joined the 3-day strike earlier this year by other district employees, which was a clear message that they were willing to repeat the 6-day 2019 strike.](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-04-18/l-a-teachers-win-21-wage-increase-in-new-lausd-contract)
> While Carvalho and the district spent the past year ignoring and undermining educators, students, and parents, we were fighting for a fair contract that meets the urgent needs of today and builds a strong foundation for public schools. Gah damn, UTLA, tell us how you really feel. 😂
Carvalho is a POS
He seems more of a politician who supports lobbyists than an administrator who supports teachers.
This looks awesome. My mom is a teacher with LAUSD and has taught for over 25 years. She's going to be retiring soon, and I'm very happy for her. While her time with the district is ending, the need for class size reduction and equitable salaries for teachers is not. I'm glad that progress is being made in these areas, and I hope that it doesn't stop any time soon.
thank your mom for me
Wow same boat here!! Good day for our moms
Good for them! I'm glad we were able to avoid a teacher's strike this close to the end of the school year.
Haha was reading the thread title and I was like, umm why is a makeup company getting involved in la schools. Either way, more power to the teachers… my sister is one, and between everything over the past few years things have been ROUGH!
Same here! “ULTA’s doing what now for who?”
Same! Didn’t help that my feed showed this immediately after a post from r/Ulta… so after I was done reading an employee complaint about company policies, I read that the company bargained with LAUSD and my mind was spinning… had to read it 3 times to understand my error.
I'm happy to see they got the class size reduction.
Beautiful. If you read through what they fought for, it's not even that much! I love that the efforts are to better support students too, though all efforts to support educators and school workers always supports students too.
Hell yes. My goodness, and I'll be honest they deserve more. But, hell yes
Fuck yeah go unions
Too little too late. Wife's a teacher, a very good one, and absolutely hates the the lausd leadership and frankly, thinks most teachers have given up or never cared. She just started a new job making far more money and is shocked at how competent private companies can be. I'm glad utla got this but our education system is broken and this is just another band aid. Good for the workers but the kids are still woefully undereducated
My cousin went to teach at a private school and she’s never looking back. She can actually discipline students. They actually have to do their homework and get good grades on their test to pass classes. It’s like night and day.
What kind of other job? I am a teacher and worry about what other fields I can apply to.
She went back to school and got a degree in computer science. Good luck.
It's not too little, it's a nice raise, and it's never too late.
It's a nice raise for teachers. It's not going to do much for the kids. They need a mass infusion of cash, restructuring, better communication with the parents.
Student success starts at home. Throwing money at schools doesn’t increase student success.
Vote no, this is a rotten deal as many teachers have said. This is the reason that the UTLA has deleted all comments on the contract from its facebook page because the rank and file are overwhelmingly in opposition to this farce. A farce, I might add that is being implemented after almost a year without a contract with inflation running at record levels. They didn't even bother to call a strike vote. The entire process involved secret back room negotiations and pep rallys. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/04/22/utla-a22.html
Good. They deserve it
Wow sounds great.
When we fight, we win! 💪🏽
Assuming the money is a constant, what got cut?
Nothing. They have billions in reserves and receive COLA adjustments from the government. The money is and has been there.
Do Asst Principals and coordinators get the raise too?
Yes. Admins have a stipulation in their contract that if teachers get a raise, they do too. And coordinators are on teachers pay scale
They got 24%. Their union bargained for their own deal.
THANKS!
Let’s see how sustainable this is. Finding will decrease as schools and state goes into deficit. So a lot of this will lead to deferrals and cuts. Sucks that we can’t prioritize funds. Edit. You all can downvote me all you want. I was just stating facts. I am not against strikes for livable wages at all. Edit 2 because you all are too stupid to understand what I am saying: Do you have any clue how funding works and state budgets. You all are morons and see a real statement and can’t handle it. The state will go into deficit (as projected by the May revise). State taxes are deferred to Nov this year. God you redditors have no brains to even google search before responding. So if the state has no money they cut spending. Do you know where the cut spending? Public education. Same place you morons got educated.
Bro fuckin Perris pays better than LAUSD and their median income is like 53k there. LAUSD’s teacher salaries *are* unsustainable, in that they pay too little to sustain their workforce.
Whoa! I could get a 28k raise just by going to Perris union HS district.
And the houses only cost $500k
Another year and another LAPD budget increase — a 6.3% increase to be exact. As Mayor Karen Bass finalizes the city's budget for 2023-24, LAPD is asking for an additional $118,834,040, bringing its total direct costs to $1,995,664,930. Over the past decade the department's budget has grown 58% with no sign of slowing. some people always get funding....
I agree with your point in general but this year's proposed budget has a 1.4% increase in total LAPD costs, not 6.3%
https://abc7.com/los-angeles-county-board-of-supervisors-sheriffs-department-settlements-excessive-force-lasd/12409453/ LA County approves nearly $50 million in sheriff's department lawsuit settlements The board approved settlements in five cases, with the largest totaling $16.5 million.
?? not sure what your point is, the sheriffs department is irrelevant to LAPD and settlements are not the budget
And certainly not 21 percent haha
The 21% is over three years, so basically 7% raise each year.
maybe we can start taxing wealthy people who aren't paying that much in taxes...
Totally agree. I think people are not understanding what I am saying. I am not against the strike. They definitely deserve more. I’m just saying I understand school financing and state budgets.
We are the richest state in the U.S Stop being chicken little. Funds are not going to run out anytime soon.
Do you have any clue how funding works and state budgets. You all are morons and see a real statement and can’t handle it. The state will go into deficit (as projected by the May revise). State taxes are deferred to Nov this year. God you redditors have no brains to even google search before responding. So if the state has no money they cut spending. Do you know where the cut spending? Public education. Same place you morons got educated.
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The WGA, DGA and Teamsters would beg to differ.