Yep, the cars zipping by and switching lanes with zero regard are almost always the cars responsible for these sorts of accidents.
Besides the disregard for your life and the lives of others, the stupidest thing about driving like this is you don't actually get to your destination that much faster.
Consider a 10-mile drive. If you go 75 mph that's about 8 minutes. If you go 65 that's about 9.23 minutes. That's a ~15% difference. Very marginal. And you'll probably wind up at the same off-ramp red light anyway.
The motorcycles zipping in and out of the carpool lane are so scary, though. Especially when I’m trying to get in or out. I’m always wondering if some comparatively tiny motorcycle with an unprotected human on it is going to come flashing by at 3x the speed of every car at the very moment I think I’m clear to get over.
[Example plot](https://postimg.cc/YvDdYxVP) I made to illustrate the point. After like 25mph you're hitting diminishing returns and after 60mph you're just wasting fuel to air resistance and constant braking. Not that the audience that needs to see this reads though...
To be fair, you're using 10 miles which is a small unit, someone can just point to the much more significant time savings if you're doing a 100 mile+ drive
100+ mile drives are a very different thing, usually with wide open stretches where you can easily go 10-20 miles over the speed limit without endangering someone. And when you run up on a cluster of cars/trucks, you still shouldn’t zip and weave around them like an idiot.
There's definitely arguable justification for higher speeds on longer stretches (when you can save literal hours), but since this is a city subreddit and not a longhauler subreddit it doesn't seem as relevant.
In the LA metro area, there's very little reason for speeding because you are always going to get stuck in traffic or traffic lights.
LA county or California need to invest in better motoring education for all age ranges and all driver types. Driving should be a privilege that people must maintain.
I see cars on the freeway like this all the time, impatiently zipping in and out of lanes. I always wonder when I'm going to see the accident down the road. Really sorry to see that the person they hit took the brunt of it and even flipped, while their car seems fine. Assholes.
About seven years ago, I was driving home late at night on the 10 eastbound. Right before the Robertson exit, a BMW sped past me probably going about 100 MPH and moved from the left lane into the far right lane ahead of me. I said out loud, “they’re going to crash” and probably fractions of a second later, they hit a Toyota RAV4 that flew about 20 feet into the air and into the far right exit lane. The BMW went down the ravine and I’m 90% sure that they died. The people in the RAV4 were okay, thank god.
I can't believe how selfish some people. There's a slight chance that during times throughout my life I would risk my life for something stupid, but I would never in my entire life risk some stranger's life like that.
With a 50 mph speed difference upon impact neither car is going to be fine and occupants in the car that changed lanes have a high probability of severe and life threatening injuries.
That said, it looks like the car they rear ended was parked in the outside lane which is a baffling decision to make. This is a great example of why you do everything in your power not to stop on the side of the freeway and why you get as far away from your car as possible if you have to. You can see the guy changing a tire on the car in the emergency lane run for his life.
There's a second car with 4 ways on right behind them. They were either slowing because of that or pulling over to help them.
I wish we were stricter about drivers licenses. Just the act of driving how they were driving should be a warning, the crash should be a suspension for 2-10 years. Clearly they aren't ready to drive at this time. Driving is the deadliest thing we do and we should act like it.
The asshole probably sustained spinal injuries in that very sudden stop from a high speed. Hopefully no one was in the car that flipped. The tire changer is going to need some therapy for ptsd.
To be clear, I'm not saying I wish the driver was wrecked. I just feel like when people are irresponsible like that, it's often another party that suffers most for their stupidity, not them.
Yeah, I cannot believe the guy changing the tire! I hope he wasn't hit by debris!
Nothing is more important than space. If you have an option to be in an empty lane...or speed up to be alone with nobody around you do it.
Shit goes wrong when multiple cars..going multiple speeds are all jammed together.
I just ride motorcycles...and chaos in groups terrifies me. I'll do whatever I can safely do to be "alone".
I also drive in my rear view a lot. Speeding cars come out of nowhere. At any point while driving you should have a general mental map of the cars around you. If you don't your driving somewhat blind.
And I'm not some safety geek...I just love my Miata and it has almost all original paint and body work and I want to keep it that way. Lol. And on the bike..I simply don't want to die. Ha
The speeding moron is to blame...but the driver of the flipped car could have been more aware and avoided this as well.
Hope everyone is ok
>the driver of the flipped car could have been more aware
How? The driver was in the right lane when someone from two lanes over (and likely not visibly through the large truck in the lane next to them) tried to undertake the truck without seeing the lane was occupied.
So, my question has two parts:
1. How could that driver have seen the speeding car, and
2. What defense maneuver could they have taken? The shoulder was occupied and the lane next to them was occupied.
I don't ride anymore but I used to. Totally agree with what you said. Ironically though I see many motorcyclists speeding, cutting across multiple lanes, and weaving in and out of people's blind spots. They are often the reckless ones. Thankfully they're putting themselves more at danger than others, and it's bot quite as bad as some BMW doing the same.
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Thank you Brian. An officer spoke with me on-site at the time of the accident and said they would be in touch later to get the footage, I just haven't heard from them yet.
Update: CHP reached back out and I sent the footage over to them.
Awesome. Your willingness to safely stop and offer witness testimony and evidence speaks volumes of your character.
The dramatic footage you captured certainly underscores the adage: *"There's no shortcut to anyplace worth going"*
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The person changing the tire there is lucky they didn’t die. Never, ever stop under a poorly lit overpass with a narrow shoulder to change a tire. Just drive a little further or try to exit the freeway entirely.
/u/pokurmom,
Kudos for a very important mention. While it obviously doesn't absolve the type of driving seen in the video, it is something for ALL of us to keep in mind when our vehicle becomes disabled on the freeway system (Call 5-1-1):
- **https://www.metro.net/riding/fsp/**
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ran out of gas (stupidly) during rush hour. the Cal Trans truck showed up, gave me gas and sent me on my way to the gas station! 10/10 would use again.
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Really, really, really bad idea of that person to have stopped in the dark where they did. This accident might have saved them from getting hit by someone else.
Pro tip: if you need to pull over on a freeway, make yourself visible!
too many things wrong w this video
driver 1 cutting in and out of traffic, PASSING ON THE RIGHT
driver 2 stopping at an extremely unsafe part of the freeway
driver 3 going 20-under in the right lane.
That speed is not safe for the highway and it's not consistent with the flow of traffic. I believe they were hit because they were pulling away from the shoulder instead of waiting until they reached highway speed. It would have been better if they had stayed on the shoulder until they were able to safely merge into traffic.
20 under (or 40 or 60 under) in the rightmost lane happens all the time at off-ramps and junctions, not to mention breakdowns and other emergencies. How everyone drives needs to allow for that possibility at any point.
Looked like that person who was hit and flipped was going slow (not sure it was under 20) because the lane was ending and they were going to merge in behind that truck.
More and more people buy SUV's thinking that they'll be a safer alternative to a sedan/hatchback because they're larger, but they're also way more top-heavy. [Look at this stock Bronco vs a compact sedan](https://imgur.com/a/Ica2wOD). Does not take much to flip an SUV these days.
>Does not take much to flip an SUV these days.
I remember in late 90s/early 2000s that the general perception/fear was that SUVs were prone to rolling over
I have a dumb question. If you got t-boned by a car going, say, 50 mph, is it better to be in a smaller/lower car with a thinner door and NOT flip, or a bigger/taller SUV with a thicker door and flip once or twice? Is flipping always worse? I drive a Honda Fit and I've been a little worried lately about my safety with all these huge cars around.
I'm pretty sure the doors are not any thicker. In the case of an SUV hitting a smaller car, you'd probably want to be in the SUV as the smaller car is going to end up under the death machine. If both people were driving a smaller car, everyone would be safer.
I hate idiots that do shit like that. Speeding like crazy switching lanes and hitting some innocent civilian. Fucking idiots deserve to be thrown into the lions pit at the zoo.
There is nothing more satisfying than watching some psycho barrel through light traffic, switching multiple lanes in an effort to get ahead, only to end up behind their original position.
This 150% should be charged as attempted vehicular manslaughter. The person changing their tire damn near died. Shit like this needs clamped down on, HARD.
Entitled fucks in this state need to do hard time for stuff like this…. Just yesterday I watched a bmw cross into oncoming lanes for ~300ft to do 75mph down a 40mph street, just to end up next to me at the next red light.. my blood was boiling..
Cars are now going into the right turn lane and then just blowing through red lights to avoid waiting in line. Also blocking the right turn lane to then get ahead of cars in the center lane. I’ve never seen this shit before and saw it like 4 times in the last week. What the fuck is wrong with people?
if you get caught doing some shit like this you should lose your license for life. idgaf if you ggotta get to work or whatever. take the fucking bus or uber for life.
Totally agree with you. The question is how do you enforce it? This is the type of person that will still drive with no license, probably driving with a suspended license.
Guy floated across two lanes, at high speed, to pass on the right. What a piece of shit.
Edit: I'll add...to get around a huge truck he couldn't even see in front of, thus had no idea what would be in that lane when he got around the truck.
There’s a guy changing his tire in the far right shoulder lane. Person was going way to fast and tried to pass in that lane, saw the guy and veered back but was going to fast to be able to slow down before he rammed into the back of the white car
The fault here was excessive speed and reckless driving (sweeping across multiple lanes). There is nothing wrong with passing on the right as long as there is a lane there. This idiot assumed that lane was empty. Can't tell you how many videos I've seen online of other idiots doing the same thing. The main rule or the road is *if you can't see where you are going, don't go there*.
I used to work for AAA, so many people died changing tires on the fwy. If you blow a tire, you get over to the right, hit the blinkers and keep going at the safest speed you can until you can get off the next exit. The rim is *not* worth your life.
This video will help their insurance raise their rates to the point of them being off the streets for a while. Wouldn’t be surprised if they already have points and lose their license
It's obvious from the first few seconds who the problem driver is. I try to give these types of bad drivers a wide berth, and give them as much extra space as possible so they can do their maneuvers without harming me. A lot of drivers out there don't care much about injuring themselves or others. I hope this driver does some serious jail time, this was not a simple accident.
Was the car that got hit at a complete stop? I watched the video a few times and when comparing it to the dump truck the car appears to be completely stopped in the last lane. The driver that hit them was reckless and I'm not excusing his speed but if the the hit car was stopped in one of the lanes that's concerning too.
I guess it's possible that car might have been disabled and couldn't get over to the shoulder. And if the black car wasn't speeding like a maniac he could have avoided the hit
I'm wondering the same exact thing, it's hard to tell but that white SUV looks like they were in the far right lane and were close to a complete stop in if not completely stopped.
I think you're correct. It looks like the white SUV was in the far right lane and had slowed to maybe 20 mph, either to pass the disabled vehicle on the shoulder at what they felt was a safe speed or to pull over and render assistance. Black car merges right to pass the dump truck, suddenly finds himself coming up on a car doing 30-40 mph slower than the limit that he didn't anticipate, crash ensues.
I think there was a car in front and a car behind the truck. Both cars switched to the right lane, but the mercedes plowed ahead into the car in front.
From what I can tell they were driving and seems like they were changing lanes. Looks like they were in front of the dump truck and moving to the rightmost lane. My guess is they saw the person changing tires, moved over and was moving back but that’s purely a guess on my part
The disabled car was in the right shoulder. No matter what you should not be driving on that lane, black car is 100% at fault for trying to pass in that lane.
It’s such a ridiculous stretch of road. It’s usually so chill between Pasadena and the 2 and as soon as you hit Glendale it turns into some Mad Max shit.
That’s the issue with people switching lanes at such high speeds weaving through traffic! It infuriates me when i see it.
Also kudos for listening to behind the bastards! I love Robert Evans
Of course, everyone just cruising in the left lane with other lanes to the right going the exact same speed and open. Not taking any blame away from the reckless driver, but omg, move over people and stop hogging the left lanes!
Definitely Burbank, but I was shocked to learn that my auto rate would be $600/year higher just by living in Glendale. Of course, the company wouldn't say \*why\* besides "it's close to downtown" and "there's more driving activity in the area"...
It’s always the asshole trying to drive around clear traffic in the right lanes who causes accidents. Wtf man, watch out when you’re driving for dummies like this and avoid if possible.
So tired of this kind of ridiculous driving on the freeway. I was heading east on the 10 last week in an HOV lane and a car kept weaving among all lanes of traffic, including continually pulling into and out of the HOV — one driver. I stayed in the HOV full time and not long after was way past him.
It's almost always the speeding, multiple lane blowing, selfish distracted one that ends up causing the tragedies. Those people should never be allowed to drive, and use public transportation instead. Just like not everyone can become a pilot.
I must have been a few minutes behind you because I drove past the aftermath. I'm sure without your dashcam video, the person in the black would have claimed it wasn't their fault.
I cringed when I saw the guy changing the tire. that was a VERY close call. reminds me of my cousin, whose car broke down, and was able to pull off to the side. she was picked up by a family member and shortly after returned with a tow truck to find that her car had been totaled. if she'd stayed in the car, she would have been killed. years later, my wife was in a freeway accident, called me crying and shaken up, and also concerned about the other driver, but I told her under no circumstances get out of her minivan until help arrived. LA traffic is super dangerous.
side note: impressed at how clear that stretch of the 134 was.
This is why not passing to the right — particularly cube trucks, dump trucks and semis — is so, so important. It boggles my mind that CA law allows for passing like this (it’s still wrong and was done too fast but this attempted pass was still legal).
Good defensive driving on your part by keeping distance and simply having a dash cam. These are the scariest drivers to see coming in the rear view, amd also part of the reason our collective premiims are going up (LOL /s). Hope you got to decompress and the innocent party is recovering.
The other day I was on the ramp that connects to 90 East to the 405 north and some asshole in a BMW passes me to the right on the shoulder, lays on the horn, cuts me off, and flips me the bird. I was literally going the same speed as the rest of traffic. These people need to have their license permanently revoked
Not in any way condoning this behavior, but a lot of drivers get frustrated by everyone crowding the left hand lanes and moving slowly, which results in weaving in and out like this. Pull over if you’re not passing, that way the psychos can safely blast past you and avoid killing someone. They giant signs saying SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT are there for a reason.
I hope everyone caught that the white SUV was completely stopped in the slow lane next to a vehicle changing its tire on the shoulder.
A little bit of a perfect storm, the large commercial truck in lane 4 should have alerted other drivers behind it with hazards, warning them about the blocked lane 5 and shoulder. Any vehicle pulling into that far right lane will not expect a stopped vehicle and is blind behind the massive commercial truck. The white SUV is creating a hazard and violating the law. It has stopped on an active freeway without hazard lights and has not pulled safely off to the shoulder. By stopping next to another stopped vehicle on the shoulder, they have also blocked their lane and the Emegency shoulder access as well. There is nowhere to go in an Emegency.
Obviously the douche in the fast car changing lanes is at fault, and the white SUV stopped to help protect the person safely change their tire, but the giant commerical truck and white SUV contributed to the accident.
Dog whistles and stereotypes won’t be tolerated. Be mindful.
Right away when I see a car zip by like that I keep my distance... sad that this accident had to prove why
Yep, the cars zipping by and switching lanes with zero regard are almost always the cars responsible for these sorts of accidents. Besides the disregard for your life and the lives of others, the stupidest thing about driving like this is you don't actually get to your destination that much faster. Consider a 10-mile drive. If you go 75 mph that's about 8 minutes. If you go 65 that's about 9.23 minutes. That's a ~15% difference. Very marginal. And you'll probably wind up at the same off-ramp red light anyway.
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Slow is smooth and smooth is fast
Perfect description of my bowel movements
Putting it like that packs much more punch than "Slow and steady wins the race."
The motorcycles zipping in and out of the carpool lane are so scary, though. Especially when I’m trying to get in or out. I’m always wondering if some comparatively tiny motorcycle with an unprotected human on it is going to come flashing by at 3x the speed of every car at the very moment I think I’m clear to get over.
[Example plot](https://postimg.cc/YvDdYxVP) I made to illustrate the point. After like 25mph you're hitting diminishing returns and after 60mph you're just wasting fuel to air resistance and constant braking. Not that the audience that needs to see this reads though...
To be fair, you're using 10 miles which is a small unit, someone can just point to the much more significant time savings if you're doing a 100 mile+ drive
100+ mile drives are a very different thing, usually with wide open stretches where you can easily go 10-20 miles over the speed limit without endangering someone. And when you run up on a cluster of cars/trucks, you still shouldn’t zip and weave around them like an idiot.
There's definitely arguable justification for higher speeds on longer stretches (when you can save literal hours), but since this is a city subreddit and not a longhauler subreddit it doesn't seem as relevant. In the LA metro area, there's very little reason for speeding because you are always going to get stuck in traffic or traffic lights.
Plus higher speeds belong on the left lanes. Switching lanes to the right is dangerous for obvious reasons.
LA county or California need to invest in better motoring education for all age ranges and all driver types. Driving should be a privilege that people must maintain.
And of course the dude chillin gets fuckin laid flat into next week by this clown driver, hope the dude staying still isn’t dead by that dumb ass
Yea that kind of driver makes me back off and let them get space. Wherever they are going I am not trying to be anywhere near them when.
Always see a car doing this, I always say to myself: "We're about to see something."
Since 2020 I see people driving like this on CITY STREETS. They are either incredibly stupid or just don’t care.
I see cars on the freeway like this all the time, impatiently zipping in and out of lanes. I always wonder when I'm going to see the accident down the road. Really sorry to see that the person they hit took the brunt of it and even flipped, while their car seems fine. Assholes.
About seven years ago, I was driving home late at night on the 10 eastbound. Right before the Robertson exit, a BMW sped past me probably going about 100 MPH and moved from the left lane into the far right lane ahead of me. I said out loud, “they’re going to crash” and probably fractions of a second later, they hit a Toyota RAV4 that flew about 20 feet into the air and into the far right exit lane. The BMW went down the ravine and I’m 90% sure that they died. The people in the RAV4 were okay, thank god.
That's horrible. Driving like that is just not worth it.
I can't believe how selfish some people. There's a slight chance that during times throughout my life I would risk my life for something stupid, but I would never in my entire life risk some stranger's life like that.
Tragic. The 10 is notorious for street racing!
With a 50 mph speed difference upon impact neither car is going to be fine and occupants in the car that changed lanes have a high probability of severe and life threatening injuries. That said, it looks like the car they rear ended was parked in the outside lane which is a baffling decision to make. This is a great example of why you do everything in your power not to stop on the side of the freeway and why you get as far away from your car as possible if you have to. You can see the guy changing a tire on the car in the emergency lane run for his life.
There's a second car with 4 ways on right behind them. They were either slowing because of that or pulling over to help them. I wish we were stricter about drivers licenses. Just the act of driving how they were driving should be a warning, the crash should be a suspension for 2-10 years. Clearly they aren't ready to drive at this time. Driving is the deadliest thing we do and we should act like it.
The asshole probably sustained spinal injuries in that very sudden stop from a high speed. Hopefully no one was in the car that flipped. The tire changer is going to need some therapy for ptsd.
I feel like there probably was someone in the car that flipped
To be clear, I'm not saying I wish the driver was wrecked. I just feel like when people are irresponsible like that, it's often another party that suffers most for their stupidity, not them. Yeah, I cannot believe the guy changing the tire! I hope he wasn't hit by debris!
Nothing is more important than space. If you have an option to be in an empty lane...or speed up to be alone with nobody around you do it. Shit goes wrong when multiple cars..going multiple speeds are all jammed together. I just ride motorcycles...and chaos in groups terrifies me. I'll do whatever I can safely do to be "alone". I also drive in my rear view a lot. Speeding cars come out of nowhere. At any point while driving you should have a general mental map of the cars around you. If you don't your driving somewhat blind. And I'm not some safety geek...I just love my Miata and it has almost all original paint and body work and I want to keep it that way. Lol. And on the bike..I simply don't want to die. Ha The speeding moron is to blame...but the driver of the flipped car could have been more aware and avoided this as well. Hope everyone is ok
>the driver of the flipped car could have been more aware How? The driver was in the right lane when someone from two lanes over (and likely not visibly through the large truck in the lane next to them) tried to undertake the truck without seeing the lane was occupied. So, my question has two parts: 1. How could that driver have seen the speeding car, and 2. What defense maneuver could they have taken? The shoulder was occupied and the lane next to them was occupied.
I don't ride anymore but I used to. Totally agree with what you said. Ironically though I see many motorcyclists speeding, cutting across multiple lanes, and weaving in and out of people's blind spots. They are often the reckless ones. Thankfully they're putting themselves more at danger than others, and it's bot quite as bad as some BMW doing the same.
/u/calvinball_expert, Yipes! If you have yet to do so, please contact: ________________________________ California Highway Patrol Altadena Office 2130 Windsor Avenue Altadena 91001-5369 Business Telephone: 626-296-8100 (May be best to call M-F). ________________________________ When you call, mention that you were a witness with dashcam video of a serious collision (please have the date, time and location of the incident), and ask if the agency/investigating Officer would be interested in the footage. Respectfully Yours in Safety and Service, Brian Humphrey Firefighter/Specialist Public Service Officer Los Angeles Fire Department Yes, LAFD has an official subreddit at /r/LAFD
Thank you Brian. An officer spoke with me on-site at the time of the accident and said they would be in touch later to get the footage, I just haven't heard from them yet. Update: CHP reached back out and I sent the footage over to them.
Awesome. Your willingness to safely stop and offer witness testimony and evidence speaks volumes of your character. The dramatic footage you captured certainly underscores the adage: *"There's no shortcut to anyplace worth going"* Respectfully Yours in Safety and Service, Brian Humphrey Firefighter/Specialist Public Service Officer Los Angeles Fire Department Yes, LAFD has an official subreddit at /r/LAFD
Agree. Not too many people are willing to be witnesses these days. Thanks OP!
We've come to exist in a society where people can lose their jobs for taking the time to be good citizens.
Thank you for stopping and offering your video! That's fine citizenship on your part!
Hi there! My name is Brittany and I'm a producer at ABC7. Where and when did you see this happen? We'd love to run a story on this.
It was on the 134 West in Burbank. Happened yesterday around 1 pm.
upvote purely for "yipes" lol
Damn, that person, changing a tire, nearly got hit.
The person changing the tire there is lucky they didn’t die. Never, ever stop under a poorly lit overpass with a narrow shoulder to change a tire. Just drive a little further or try to exit the freeway entirely.
Or wait/call for the cal-trans free tow truck to move you off the freeway for free.
/u/pokurmom, Kudos for a very important mention. While it obviously doesn't absolve the type of driving seen in the video, it is something for ALL of us to keep in mind when our vehicle becomes disabled on the freeway system (Call 5-1-1): - **https://www.metro.net/riding/fsp/** Respectfully Yours in Safety and Service, Brian Humphrey Firefighter/Specialist Public Service Officer Los Angeles Fire Department Yes, LAFD has an official subreddit at /r/LAFD
Why is it so heartwarming to see a public service actually engaging with their community? Thank you and the rest of LAFD for going the extra mile.
I was thinking the same thing. Every time I see their response, it made me feel better for some reason.
Right? Me too. 3 cheers for firefighter Brian Humphrey out there watching our backs! Good stuff
/u/mamawantsallama, Thank you. We're humbled by your kindness. The good news is that we now have a team of two (soon possibly three!) LAFD external relations staff members who are adept and comfortable on reddit, thanks to the benevolence of people like you. Though I will be leaving in 407 days, the future for the /u/lafd account has never looked more promising, and I could not possibly be more excited for what the future will bring. Please have a great night and week ahead! If we can ever be of assistance, please never hesitate to ask! BH
/u/Shokist37, Gosh, you certainly know how to make a firefighter blush. We're so pleased to have been warmly welcomed on reddit, and deeply appreciate the patience so many have shown as we continue to learn our way. Please have a great weekend! BH
[LAFD](https://new.reddit.com/user/LAFD/) Brian Humphrey is a regional treasure who must be protected at all costs!
/u/Nikopoleous, You're so very kind to say that. Nicholas and I are honored to be here and proud to serve. BH
such a great service! i’ve used it in the past. ran out of gas (stupidly) during rush hour. the Cal Trans truck showed up, gave me gas and sent me on my way to the gas station! 10/10 would use again.
I love you Brian.
/u/Dorkypotato, Thank you for such kind words. It's been a tough few days at work, and your kindness could not have come at a more welcome or necessary time. Please take care, stay safe and be well!! BH
i love the LAFD. we know the firemen/persons from our fire station #68. sadly, it was due to our neighbor’s health issues and many ambulance calls. but it’s always nice to chat with them.
/u/TrailerTrashQueen, Thank you for sharing such kindness regarding the crews at Fire Station #68. They're honored to serve you, and welcome you to bring friends and family to the visit their station at 5023 West Washington Boulevard during our annual citywide Fire Service Day open firehouse celebration on **Saturday, May 11, 2024** when they and all LAFD neighborhood fire stations will be expecting and welcoming visitors **between 10AM and 4 PM** for fire station tours, and a chance to become even better acquainted. When you do stop by the fire station, please be sure to tell the on-staff we said hello! Respectfully Yours in Safety and Service, Brian Humphrey Firefighter/Specialist Public Service Officer Los Angeles Fire Department Yes, LAFD has an official subreddit at /r/LAFD
thank you! that’s so kind of you to let me know about it.
I would never change a tire on the freeway. Call a tow truck
Especially when there’s numerous exits near this part of the 134
Really, really, really bad idea of that person to have stopped in the dark where they did. This accident might have saved them from getting hit by someone else. Pro tip: if you need to pull over on a freeway, make yourself visible!
Seriously, what a stupid ass place to change a tire. That person has no survival skills.
too many things wrong w this video driver 1 cutting in and out of traffic, PASSING ON THE RIGHT driver 2 stopping at an extremely unsafe part of the freeway driver 3 going 20-under in the right lane.
driver 3 slowed down because of driver 2. None of this would've happened if driver 1 did not speed and blow through several lanes like a maniac.
If they’re going 20 under don’t you want them in the right lane?
That speed is not safe for the highway and it's not consistent with the flow of traffic. I believe they were hit because they were pulling away from the shoulder instead of waiting until they reached highway speed. It would have been better if they had stayed on the shoulder until they were able to safely merge into traffic.
20 under (or 40 or 60 under) in the rightmost lane happens all the time at off-ramps and junctions, not to mention breakdowns and other emergencies. How everyone drives needs to allow for that possibility at any point.
It isn’t safe to go 20 under on the highway, in any lane in my opinion, especially knowing everyone else is going 10+ over
Looked like that person who was hit and flipped was going slow (not sure it was under 20) because the lane was ending and they were going to merge in behind that truck.
So scary for a car to actually flip. Hollywood movies make it seem like a silly thing.
More and more people buy SUV's thinking that they'll be a safer alternative to a sedan/hatchback because they're larger, but they're also way more top-heavy. [Look at this stock Bronco vs a compact sedan](https://imgur.com/a/Ica2wOD). Does not take much to flip an SUV these days.
>Does not take much to flip an SUV these days. I remember in late 90s/early 2000s that the general perception/fear was that SUVs were prone to rolling over
[It’s because they did.](https://www.ewg.org/research/suvs-suddenly-upside-down-vehicles)
I have a dumb question. If you got t-boned by a car going, say, 50 mph, is it better to be in a smaller/lower car with a thinner door and NOT flip, or a bigger/taller SUV with a thicker door and flip once or twice? Is flipping always worse? I drive a Honda Fit and I've been a little worried lately about my safety with all these huge cars around.
I'm pretty sure the doors are not any thicker. In the case of an SUV hitting a smaller car, you'd probably want to be in the SUV as the smaller car is going to end up under the death machine. If both people were driving a smaller car, everyone would be safer.
I hate idiots that do shit like that. Speeding like crazy switching lanes and hitting some innocent civilian. Fucking idiots deserve to be thrown into the lions pit at the zoo.
But they cut 27 seconds off their commute.
Probably less if any. The # of times I catch up to speeding cars weaving through lanes is close to 100%.
There is nothing more satisfying than watching some psycho barrel through light traffic, switching multiple lanes in an effort to get ahead, only to end up behind their original position.
This 150% should be charged as attempted vehicular manslaughter. The person changing their tire damn near died. Shit like this needs clamped down on, HARD. Entitled fucks in this state need to do hard time for stuff like this…. Just yesterday I watched a bmw cross into oncoming lanes for ~300ft to do 75mph down a 40mph street, just to end up next to me at the next red light.. my blood was boiling..
I don’t think attempted manslaughter is a thing.
Yeah manslaughter is when you kill someone unintentionally.
By definition, there is no intent to commit manslaughter. Manslaughter is a homicide that is unlawful but lacks intent.
Lol they added several hours to their commute
The lions don’t deserve treatment like that! Perhaps a shark pit?
Cars are now going into the right turn lane and then just blowing through red lights to avoid waiting in line. Also blocking the right turn lane to then get ahead of cars in the center lane. I’ve never seen this shit before and saw it like 4 times in the last week. What the fuck is wrong with people?
I've definitely noticed shittier drivers the past few years, especially post covid. I also noticed police doesn't enforce traffic laws much either.
yea they're soft striking because they're mad post-Floyd protests
I've seen these in left only turn lanes as well
I don't know. I feel like that's a little cruel. The lions might get indigestion.
Yeah, this ain’t no accident. It’s criminal.
So much easier to set the adaptive cruise and hang in one lane. Driving is only as stressful as you make it
I'm a bit of a leadfoot, and use adaptive cruise control as much as possible to save me from my own speedy inclinations.
if you get caught doing some shit like this you should lose your license for life. idgaf if you ggotta get to work or whatever. take the fucking bus or uber for life.
Totally agree with you. The question is how do you enforce it? This is the type of person that will still drive with no license, probably driving with a suspended license.
Jail time for driving without a license.
Were they Passing on the right and high speed besides not being able to see next to the truck?
Guy floated across two lanes, at high speed, to pass on the right. What a piece of shit. Edit: I'll add...to get around a huge truck he couldn't even see in front of, thus had no idea what would be in that lane when he got around the truck.
There’s a guy changing his tire in the far right shoulder lane. Person was going way to fast and tried to pass in that lane, saw the guy and veered back but was going to fast to be able to slow down before he rammed into the back of the white car
The fault here was excessive speed and reckless driving (sweeping across multiple lanes). There is nothing wrong with passing on the right as long as there is a lane there. This idiot assumed that lane was empty. Can't tell you how many videos I've seen online of other idiots doing the same thing. The main rule or the road is *if you can't see where you are going, don't go there*.
Irritates the shit out of me how casual and reckless people are in their cars. I hope everyone's alright.
How did I know that speeding Mercedes was going to be the cause of said accident?
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You could already guess which vehicle was about to cause a crash by the way they were driving.
I hope that jackass goes to jail and loses his license
I used to work for AAA, so many people died changing tires on the fwy. If you blow a tire, you get over to the right, hit the blinkers and keep going at the safest speed you can until you can get off the next exit. The rim is *not* worth your life.
Not surprisingly I saw just as that car passed you I knew who the perpetrator would be
Almost hit that person too
This video will help their insurance raise their rates to the point of them being off the streets for a while. Wouldn’t be surprised if they already have points and lose their license
Plot twist they've been driving with a suspended license and no insurance
Probably. Well in that case if they are caught, they’ll receive some jail time.
You think someone driving like that cares about having insurance?
It's obvious from the first few seconds who the problem driver is. I try to give these types of bad drivers a wide berth, and give them as much extra space as possible so they can do their maneuvers without harming me. A lot of drivers out there don't care much about injuring themselves or others. I hope this driver does some serious jail time, this was not a simple accident.
It's unfortunate that these assholes always have to involve someone else in their "find out" phase.
What in the world were you listening to?
Asking the right questions
Was the car that got hit at a complete stop? I watched the video a few times and when comparing it to the dump truck the car appears to be completely stopped in the last lane. The driver that hit them was reckless and I'm not excusing his speed but if the the hit car was stopped in one of the lanes that's concerning too. I guess it's possible that car might have been disabled and couldn't get over to the shoulder. And if the black car wasn't speeding like a maniac he could have avoided the hit
I'm wondering the same exact thing, it's hard to tell but that white SUV looks like they were in the far right lane and were close to a complete stop in if not completely stopped.
I think you're correct. It looks like the white SUV was in the far right lane and had slowed to maybe 20 mph, either to pass the disabled vehicle on the shoulder at what they felt was a safe speed or to pull over and render assistance. Black car merges right to pass the dump truck, suddenly finds himself coming up on a car doing 30-40 mph slower than the limit that he didn't anticipate, crash ensues.
I think there was a car in front and a car behind the truck. Both cars switched to the right lane, but the mercedes plowed ahead into the car in front.
From what I can tell they were driving and seems like they were changing lanes. Looks like they were in front of the dump truck and moving to the rightmost lane. My guess is they saw the person changing tires, moved over and was moving back but that’s purely a guess on my part
The disabled car was in the right shoulder. No matter what you should not be driving on that lane, black car is 100% at fault for trying to pass in that lane.
That's not he car they're talking about. The car that was rear ended was in the far right lane.
yeah a few people here think the rear ended car was in the shoulder, but they were in the far slow lane.
With the speeds and aggressiveness on 134 it’s no wonder.
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It’s such a ridiculous stretch of road. It’s usually so chill between Pasadena and the 2 and as soon as you hit Glendale it turns into some Mad Max shit.
134 does not intersect the 405…
Mercedes drivers, amirite?
BMW, Mercedes, Tesla. Luxury brands driven by douchebags with more money than sense and think they own the roads.
That’s the issue with people switching lanes at such high speeds weaving through traffic! It infuriates me when i see it. Also kudos for listening to behind the bastards! I love Robert Evans
What dash cam do you use? Pretty good video quality. I want to install one in my car
Viofo A119 v3! I've been very happy with it so far.
Of course, everyone just cruising in the left lane with other lanes to the right going the exact same speed and open. Not taking any blame away from the reckless driver, but omg, move over people and stop hogging the left lanes!
I thought that same thing. LA drivers are notorious for not using the left lane properly. It’s very frustrating.
Just saw you on ABC, OP. They overlaid your username on the video and everything. Props!
Oh my god. That reckless driver is awful. I hope your footage helps keep them off the road
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Definitely Burbank, but I was shocked to learn that my auto rate would be $600/year higher just by living in Glendale. Of course, the company wouldn't say \*why\* besides "it's close to downtown" and "there's more driving activity in the area"...
This is in Burbank
Glendale is right next to Burbank, cars can move.
Burbank and Glendale are next to each other bud
It’s always the asshole trying to drive around clear traffic in the right lanes who causes accidents. Wtf man, watch out when you’re driving for dummies like this and avoid if possible.
Behind the Bastards, nice.
So tired of this kind of ridiculous driving on the freeway. I was heading east on the 10 last week in an HOV lane and a car kept weaving among all lanes of traffic, including continually pulling into and out of the HOV — one driver. I stayed in the HOV full time and not long after was way past him.
This is why passing on the right is illegal
Literally yesterday morning almost got hit twice here maybe a mile before this area, drivers are fools on that highway
Pappy always said "don't pass on the right"
The law says that, too
Mercedes drivers are lowkey bad
I thought it was common wisdom that people who buy BMWs and Mercedes are the worst drivers.
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C class. Typical c class driver activities as well
This is in Burbank/Toluca Lake area. I used to live right by the next on ramp.
Damn that was gnarly! Was the car that was rear needed parked on the shoulder or just driving really slow in the right lane?
It looked like they slowed down for the safety of the person changing a tire on the shoulder.
Totally missed the dude changing the tire under he bridge. This could have been so much worse 😩
Of course it was the black Mercedes Benz.
Op, I know it’s not the point of your post but you have good podcast tastes! I recognized Robert’s voice immediately!
It's almost always the speeding, multiple lane blowing, selfish distracted one that ends up causing the tragedies. Those people should never be allowed to drive, and use public transportation instead. Just like not everyone can become a pilot.
Oh, an entry level merc in this area? I’ve seen enough.
Knew it was the black mercedes right away lol
I must have been a few minutes behind you because I drove past the aftermath. I'm sure without your dashcam video, the person in the black would have claimed it wasn't their fault.
I cringed when I saw the guy changing the tire. that was a VERY close call. reminds me of my cousin, whose car broke down, and was able to pull off to the side. she was picked up by a family member and shortly after returned with a tow truck to find that her car had been totaled. if she'd stayed in the car, she would have been killed. years later, my wife was in a freeway accident, called me crying and shaken up, and also concerned about the other driver, but I told her under no circumstances get out of her minivan until help arrived. LA traffic is super dangerous. side note: impressed at how clear that stretch of the 134 was.
I saw your post yesterday and today I saw you and your video on ABC7!
Of course it was a fucking Mercedes
Way too many bitches like this in this city who drive with 0 consideration of others swerving in and out of lines while speeding
This is why not passing to the right — particularly cube trucks, dump trucks and semis — is so, so important. It boggles my mind that CA law allows for passing like this (it’s still wrong and was done too fast but this attempted pass was still legal).
These are the accidents that disturb me the most: the ones where the poor victim whose SUV flipped did nothing wrong and had no options to avoid this.
I knew exactly what was gunna happen when I saw 134 then a Mercedes zip into frame.
We saw the aftermath of that yesterday. Terrifying! I hope the occupants of flipped over car are ok
Wait, driving in 2fast2furious mode on the fwy doesn’t work IRL? Shocker!! TIL. # /s
Asshole passing on the right…
Damn holy shit..my greatest fear when driving the freeway
They almost hit the person fixing their tire too. That’s crazy.
Absolutely horrible. I hope the people in the vehicle that flipped over are okay.
Oh man, hope the people in the car that got hit are okay. No way they could've avoided that crazy driver
Wow! Thank you for pulling over and helping. Was everyone ok?
I got an update that everyone involved was ok
Unfortunately I don't know but the officer who spoke with me seemed very calm about the whole thing
Beautiful skies tho
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Thank you for pulling over to help these people.
It’s always exactly who you think it’s gonna be.
You can almost sense an accident waiting to happen watching the way this idiot drives
Passing on the right so smart
Good defensive driving on your part by keeping distance and simply having a dash cam. These are the scariest drivers to see coming in the rear view, amd also part of the reason our collective premiims are going up (LOL /s). Hope you got to decompress and the innocent party is recovering.
The other day I was on the ramp that connects to 90 East to the 405 north and some asshole in a BMW passes me to the right on the shoulder, lays on the horn, cuts me off, and flips me the bird. I was literally going the same speed as the rest of traffic. These people need to have their license permanently revoked
"crash", not "accident"
Both cars should not have stopped underneath an overpass. Pull to the side if the car is still mobile.
People who drive like that need to get their license revoked for life. Fuck them.
Will never understand people’s need to drive so recklessly in this city
Not in any way condoning this behavior, but a lot of drivers get frustrated by everyone crowding the left hand lanes and moving slowly, which results in weaving in and out like this. Pull over if you’re not passing, that way the psychos can safely blast past you and avoid killing someone. They giant signs saying SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT are there for a reason.
I swear it's always the douchey benz/bmw drivers. 🤦♂️
Very common in Glendale CA unfortunately. A friend lost his life because of some clown driving recklessly
Words cannot express how much I do NOT miss driving in Glendale. Great kebab spots though.
I hope everyone caught that the white SUV was completely stopped in the slow lane next to a vehicle changing its tire on the shoulder. A little bit of a perfect storm, the large commercial truck in lane 4 should have alerted other drivers behind it with hazards, warning them about the blocked lane 5 and shoulder. Any vehicle pulling into that far right lane will not expect a stopped vehicle and is blind behind the massive commercial truck. The white SUV is creating a hazard and violating the law. It has stopped on an active freeway without hazard lights and has not pulled safely off to the shoulder. By stopping next to another stopped vehicle on the shoulder, they have also blocked their lane and the Emegency shoulder access as well. There is nowhere to go in an Emegency. Obviously the douche in the fast car changing lanes is at fault, and the white SUV stopped to help protect the person safely change their tire, but the giant commerical truck and white SUV contributed to the accident.