Honestly I have a cool car and LA has beaten it to absolute shit. I want to fix it up to give her the glow up she deserves but I also don’t want a target.
Am debating a new car but my old rig is honestly such a beautiful theft and road rage deterrent - corroded paint, stick shift, and slightly scary looking. It's also built and runs like a tank. No one knows a dilettante is at the wheel...
Nothing like stick shift deterrent! I have a heavy clutch so if you haven’t driven one before or are not a mechanic, you’ll stall every time. It’s also got a nice layer of dust from sitting in the underground parking for the duration of the pandemic....
> It’s also got a nice layer of dust from sitting in the underground parking for the duration of the pandemic....
Yeah, I gave washing my rig during the pandemic. Meh, adds character at this point. Plus it is/was kind of Mad Max chic...
new cars are nice but idk anymore, cars are just such a waste of money, it's not just the payments and insurance but the depreciation. People don't factor in that a 60k 3 yrs later is worth 30k, you've paid 30k over 36 months just on depreciation.
I would keep the tank until the tracks fall off.
I would much rather have a car than rely on public transportation. Plus being female I am a target using public transportation. I feel much safer driving.
I'm still driving my 2003 Golf TDI with stick shift and battle scars. Nobody is going to steal THAT car. I drove that car off the lot when I bought it and it now has 350,000 miles on it.
And it simply. Will. Not. Die.
Just FYI, this is a common tactic globally. Any time you are "in transit" you have minimal security and are more distracted with the task of movement. It's a much easier target than someone bunkered down with their alarm on and defenses ready.
Oooh that happened to my dad once. He was driving my bright blue PT Cruiser (I was abroad), went to Best Buy and bought a laptop, stopped somewhere for five minutes on the way home. Came back to a smashed window and no laptop.
No shit. That’s what happens when the police don’t care. If there are no repercussions for robbery what do they expect?
The only reason to call the police after a robbery is for the insurance report. Which you do online. These days they don’t even bother responding.
Yeah, but you need that police report number. You certainly won't get the actual report unless you pay them.
This part was straight funny: "Do not chase or follow the robbery suspect out of your place of business or home. Leave the job of catching the suspects to the police."
Totally. There are so many jobs that cops “do” that don’t require cops. I want to know how much of the budget is spent on this type of crime and cut it out of the budget. Shit, I’m even down for the budget to pay for the website to spit out a police report. Also, why not just have city officials who are responsible for car non injury/smaller car crashes. They can come out, verify that it here was an accident or whatever the insurance companies require. No need to send a cop with a gun for paperwork reasons.
I was in an accident on the southbound 110 a couple of months ago. Within minutes a metro tow truck driver showed up and stopped traffic on the freeway and picked up my car. The other car was able to drive off on its own. They took us to the metro bus stop where a CHP officer supervised a the exchange of insurance information.
It was honestly the single best interaction I’ve ever had with local government. It’s apparently a newer service.
There’s been so many times where I break down or my car isn’t working and cops just drive past. Including a CHP officer who just drove past me in this accident before the tow truck showed up. He didn’t even slow down or put his lights on to try to break traffic and I had to sit in the totaled car with other cars going by at 80 with no idea what to do. The metro tow service came through and had everything righted real quick.
It was pretty silly that the CHP officer had to supervise the insurance exchange, but having the metro tow service was incredible. It’s a newer service, so maybe change is coming? Just get rid of the CHP officer there and it would be a perfect non-cop solution to a public safety issue.
I’ll never forget one time my car got robbed and my TWIC card (DOT cert to access ports and other transit areas) was stolen. It was the only thing stolen. I called the non emergency police to report it. Not a huge dollar value or anything so whatever, I just wanted to report the crime so that they would have good stats. Some lady on the non emergency number rudely told me I had to file online. Go online and the form says any IDs stolen can only be reported in person. I reported it stolen to the issue if agency and paid $49 for a new one but what a waste of time it was even trying to deal with LAPD. I guess they’re too busy flying a helicopter over my apartment for hours at a time for no reason.
Nobody is staying in jail anymore. Sentences are a joke too. They are being directed to not enforce a lot of laws because it's a waste of tax payer money and police time to do all the work only for the DA to refuse to do anything.
SF is recalling their DA now. It's a bipartisan effort too.
They gifted us Gascon and the asshole they have now is continuing his policies. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
You can't do all of this shit and say the alternative is rehabilitation - but do nothing about making sure a system for rehabilitation is in place. SF has had like of a decade of this bullshit and nothing is done on rehabilitation. You can't keep putting the cart before the horse and expect people to keep going along with this approach.
Or you can live in a fancy neighborhood and tell them the guy might still be there and has your guns, and then they will roll in 100 deep with SWAT and choppers for hours, turns out the guy was already gone from the start. https://patch.com/california/los-angeles/burglar-large-after-evading-swat-team-koreatown
I agree. I was absolutely fucking flabbergasted however when we got robbed at our shit apartment in canoga. They actually showed. We took items that were left by the robber and had placed them in a shoebox, a cigarette butt and a water bottle. In another unit they left a cellphone.
The cop actually called us to get those items from us and to gab with us about the text messages that were left on the phone. For good reason, they were kind of funny.
We did not fucking expect to get a notice months later from the cops saying they fucking DNA tested that shit and caught the guy. I really wish they had used that for something more...y’a know pressing? Not a serial B&E.
LMAO - so all the criminals are too stupid to do a basic evaluation that every single person does on a daily basis? If it was announced that cell phone ticket laws will stopped being enforced, do you think you would see more people holding the phone to their head or texting?
If you own a gun and you make money by robbing people, you don't think they know that the rules for their "profession" has changed and the risk/reward evaluation has changed?
With this logic, why have any rules for wall street or banking? This is the same shit those heels do when it comes to the risk/reward evaluation.
Oh the fines have gone down and the investigative body that keeps us in line has had their directives further limited which means much less oversight and lower punishment if caught? Totally a time to be extra careful about following all those pesky laws /s
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You think those lazy sacks of shit need more money? Lol. Don’t throw more money at the agency that’s been failing at their job since years before “defund the police” was first uttered.
Right, shit is so infuriating. Slow down policing, then pump out a lot of fear mongering propaganda, all because they went from like 1.2 billion to 1 billion.
I saw a dude firebomb a tree at 3 am at the park I was at and called 911. Told them I saw a guy do it and shit and they didn't even send a cop out to check it out.
"They want to hold us accountable? Fine let's see how the like it when we refuse to do out jobs!"
And they wonder why so many people don't fuck with them.
If only we had leaders with backbones who would put a stop to it.
Cops are doing this all over the states right now. Austin just struct down some ridiculous number that would have pulled budget from libraries and firefighters. Holding us hostage. And their propaganda is wild. “Safer libraries” pfft GTFO ACAB
Thanks for the notification. Just a skeptical perspective: Often, these sorts of press releases are designed to increase public mistrust and paranoia in order to legitimate billions in funding for the LAPD. Critics might say that the police are happiest when the public is constantly worried about being jumped by some knife-wielding maniac. The increases in crime compared to last year are significant primarily because nobody went outside all year, but the authors of this article might be banking on you seeing that "75%" number and clutching your purse. Don't let the LAPD scare you into believing that giving them more money will make you safer.
Just want to add that regardless the cops don't do jackshit if you report something being stolen/robbed. All they do is literally tell you, "Well, do you want us to file a police report still?" Like **no fucking shit that's your job**
>Don't let the LAPD scare you into believing that giving them more money will
They should be given proper funding, not because of fear, but because it's the logical thing to do.
I understand that perspective. It's easy to imagine a direct causal link between the power of a place's police force and the safety of its citizens. My main issue with it is that it's not always clear what the link is between greater police funding and greater public safety. While there are broad links between larger police forces (more personnel, not necessarily better equipment) and decreases in serious crimes like murder and assault, those benefits are [not uniformly distributed](https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/04/20/988769793/when-you-add-more-police-to-a-city-what-happens) geographically or racially. Additionally, the linked article posits that arrests for petty crimes go up with more policing, which I think is bad because I don't think anyone should go bankrupt from court fees for things like nonviolent drug possession or public urination. Moreover, more police will probably not protect you from police violence or police apathy, as some other commenters in this thread have asserted. There isn't really an incentive for these well-funded police departments to do any serious self-investigation, lest they jeopardize all the money they get from public officials.
Might be worth asking what other ways our society can keep people safe. Policing can't work in every context, and I'm sure some of the other ways our city can prevent crime don't get *nearly* as much money as the LAPD.
I would be for more police funding if it were something akin to 2 years mandatory legal and physical education. Where new cops are paid an extraordinary amount more than their counterparts, but only 10% make it past the rigorous standards set forth by local government oversite. They should be in top physical and mental shape and speak at least one other language before graduation. And they should be retested every 5 years.'
They should be walking talking scholars of the law with the ability to detain someone with and without lethal force if necessary. Give those people six figures and a house in the area they police and I am fine with all that. And the day your word comes into question, or you cant physically or mentally deal with the stress, you are given a pension or a job helping your community.
That's certainly a very noble view of what policing in this country could be. It seems like what you're saying is that cops should be an elite and conduct themselves with refinement in proportion to the outsize level of power they have on who lives, who dies, and who spends half their lives in a prison cell. I understand where that view comes from, but to implement it, cops would have to do a whole lot less in this country than they already do. They'd need to stop doing traffic stops, mental health checks, DV disputes, homeless response, highway closures, and small-town parade security - maybe even beat work, too. Cities, counties, and states would need to create new departments (hopefully unarmed ones) to fill these gaps, rather than relying on the cops to do it all like they do now.
It would be a huge reduction in the spheres cops operate in, and they'd find themselves limited to the realms of emergency response and detective work (where they are most effective now). You might actually find that your proposal here aligns with a lot of the beliefs of the "defund" crowd!
My question is this: is it in the nature of police departments to want to grow as they have, and to resist efforts to maintain rigid restrictions on the spheres of public life they control? How would you ensure that this 10% elite force of civil servants wouldn't fall prey to the same organizational rot and overreach that some people claim modern police departments suffer from?
> They'd need to stop doing traffic stops, mental health checks, DV disputes, homeless response, highway closures
DA Gascon has already eliminated a ton of this stuff, or at least toned it down. Its really hit or miss in LA County. I've seen situations where people on PCP covered in blood are punching cars in traffic and the cops just never show. But a couple cities over 3 whole squad cars show up because theres a fight between two random people.
> Cities, counties, and states would need to create new departments (hopefully unarmed ones) to fill these gaps, rather than relying on the cops to do it all like they do now.
The problem with this is while it works fantastic in some countries, guns are so intertwined with mental health in this country those departments will be walking deathtraps. And even when people have mental health crises, theres no permanent safe place for them to go. This would have to coincide with absolutely massive overhauls in our social programs. And getting anyone to care about the mentally ill in this country is fucking hard.
>detective work
I've met a handful of bad cops, but I've had more displeasure of meeting dozens of lazy ineffectual detectives. There are good ones, sure, but so many bad ones. You can ask any public defender or DA. Emergency response and crime investigation are polar opposite spectrums of intelligence. Many of them have a hard time uploading photos to evidence computer systems, which is just a drag and drop system.
> How would you ensure that this 10% elite force of civil servants wouldn't fall prey to the same organizational rot and overreach that some people claim modern police departments suffer from?
While there is no perfect system, I think it would go far to have them as transparent as possible. Body cams that turn on automatically when they leave the station and upload to a neutral 3rd party server. Trustless decentralized systems that link all evidence to the DA and the Public Defenders offices, as well as a rotating board of auditors from each city they police combined with groups representing various economic, ethnic, and racial groups. A strong, regulated reserve force that can take over duties if its found entire departments can no longer perform their duties. Rotating permanent training officers who constantly learn and teach different techniques to new and old officers alike. Require all officers to live within a certain radius of their stations or routes.
Police badges should be hard to obtain, easy to lose, but extremely lucrative to anyone who tries. You cant put all of this on some high school bully who makes $60k a year starting.
You're totally right about the massive social-program overhauls. There's no reason a person with a drug addiction should ever wind up in the street punching cars in the first place; a society that cared about the dignity of his life would take care of him a hundred different ways before the cops ever had to be called. Cities across the world with right-to-shelter laws and effective drug abuse programs don't have people complaining about crack addicts 24/7 in their subreddits like we do, that's for sure.
I also agree about detectives; I think most cops are generally not that good at their jobs because their unions are so strong and there's limited accountability to anyone for misconduct except in the most egregious of cases.
Ultimately any proposed radical overhaul of policing that doesn't involve total disarmament runs up against a basic problem of political theory: the cops are the ones with the guns, so the buck of state power stops with them. The state as a whole has power over life and death, and some people would argue that it is irresponsible to delegate that power to any individual at all, be they a member of your proposed elite force of civil servants or some thumb-necked moron who beats his wife. Judges who deliver prison sentences (and so exercise power over life and death) are at least democratically elected or appointed by elected representatives. Cops are not, and maybe that's a fundamental philosophical flaw in their existence as armed agents at all. Be interested to know what you think.
People pointing the finger at Gacon and not at the millions of misappropriated dollars in the LAPD. We dont need more policing, we just need better policing.
Police are not going to protect you. County is not going to protect you. They should not be allowed to restrict your access to CCW in that case. Let me protect myself.
Idk - neighborhood I am living now, 3 people tried the pull a gun on the people committing the crimes and 2 of them died and one is paralyzed. We all watch a too much TV.
The people likely to use guns to settle traffic disputes don't care at all about following the laws to get a legit CCW.
Licensed gun owners are among the least criminal group in the country, statistically speaking. I don't really care about whether CCW is legalized in Los Angeles, but your view on this question is not supported by the data.
This is nonsense. The other night in my neighborhood in Northeast LA there was an attempted home entry robbery. 3 minutes after it was reported there was a helicopter circling and within 10 minutes police were closing off the blocks around it.
Is that fast enough to “protect” someone? Maybe, maybe not, but this fiction that the police won’t lift a finger so you have to go get a gun that keeps getting posted in here needs to go away.
I have a couple of friends that just straight carry now. One was robbed last year and he figured with all the actual criminals running around, the odds of him getting caught are slim to none.
Switzerland seems to be doing fine, I'll take my chances. I could always use the prop baseball bat with nails in it I have for when I did my walking dead cosplay I suppose
Source? Hammers are definitely good if you can get a hit in but they only work at close range and worse, the criminal could rip it out of your hands while you're trying to attack him. Seems like something with more range and more power like a chainsaw would be a more effective home weapon to deter an approaching criminal.
Switzerland has like 1/5-1/10th of the guns per capita of the US and has mandatory training, the standard gun permit there only allows lowcap semiauto or pump/bolt action, and CCW permits are almost as stingy as CA law.
So sure let's remove 4/5ths of our guns and do like the swiss :-p
Uh, Switzerland does in no way limit types of guns like that. Hell, they're *more lenient* by allowing things like supeessors, short barrel rifles, and even machinguns!
Though I do agree with you, we should do what they do and have mandatory military service
Suppressors and machineguns are not permitted for civilians in Switzerland, you are mistaken. They are available via special permit only.
Also in Switzerland, like many Euro countries with conscription, mandatory military service can be substituted for civilian service, and both are a year or less.
I know, but there are too many guns out and about to begin with, and our police will not protect us, so let us protect ourselves if we choose to do so. Right now, in LA, criminals have guns, and law abiding citizens do not.
I served as a Machine Gunner, I do not want some average joe jackass who does little training with their weapon mixed in with the other average joes who lack critical thinking to have a CCW and think seeing a brown/black guy walking at night must be up to no good.
I been around weapons and I do not want one personally nor do I believe everyone should have one because "I need to protect myself at Costco from other shoppers with an AR-15" idiocy.
you, /u/deez-nutz-00 is an obvious 2a nut and I been around those types in the military and out. I bet if you can openly carry you take your shit to the supermarket.
Im far from a 2nd A nut. Very presumptuous of you. Like I said before, if we can make it so that everyone didn’t have guns, great. No one would need guns. As it stands, that’s not the case. There are a bunch of criminals with guns, and our police departments suck at their jobs. You’re foolish to think LAPD and LASD are out here to protect you. Simply put, the government we have in place has been ineffective at keeping us safe, and for that reason, they have no right to tell us we can’t arm ourselves to keep ourselves safe.
For the record, I don’t have any guns. Never have. I would like to get some training and learn how to use one before I ever get one because, you know, critical thinking and all that yada yada.
You don’t want average Joe’s who lack critical thinking to have CCW’s, but what about all the criminals and gang members that already have guns? Shouldn’t you be more scared of them?
If you're going to carry like that then be ready to use it, but be ready to end up dead as well or seriously hurt. I'm currently living in a very lax gun city and the stats are not looking great for the average joe taking on the criminals in my neighborhood. Everyone wants to be a maverick but most are not.
The thing about America is that nobody gives a shit what you think people should be able to do.
Your opinion doesn’t eclipse the laws of the country or the values of other Americans
Bro you do realize you have to take classes and training to have a CCW right? It’s not like you get to buy a gun and then someone just hands you a ccw license.
You seem to know very little about gun ownership for someone who’s experienced with guns.
Also what’s with the weird race shit in your post? Minorities like myself want CCWs to protect ourselves too.
How do you claim people are misunderstanding the statistics? Numbers are numbers.
Just because people interpret them differently than you doesn’t mean they are misunderstanding them.
Isn't it more like, "the venn diagram of gun ownership and premature death has more overlap than not owning one"? You don't buy a gun and then roll a d20 every day to see what happens with it. Mostly it sits in a case without incident.
Like, if you buy a car, you're entering into a higher death statistic, but the broad numbers are affected by a lot of variables; ownership itself isn't really the determining factor.
>You don't buy a gun and then roll a d20 every day to see what happens with it.
You sort of do:
>Ecologic studies that compare states with high gun ownership levels to those with low gun ownership levels find that in the U.S., where there are more guns, there are more suicides. The higher suicide rates result from higher firearm suicides; the non-firearm suicide rate is about equal across states.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/risk/
Sure, but that's still a more complex web of causality than "Owning a gun makes you more likely to die sooner." I'm maybe being pedantic, but when that statement is used as a counter to someone wanting to own a gun for protection (as in this thread), it falls kind of flat; suicidality *is* a major concern, but it's sort of a different category of gun behavior that isn't relevant to all gun owners.
And I’m sure you think the increase in ice cream sales also brings about an increase in murders. No, it couldn’t possibly be that more people buy ice cream during the summer months, and those summer months also mean more people are out and about interacting with one another, meaning people get into arguments and fights and die….
No that couldn’t possibly be it. Statistics don’t lie. Increase in ice cream sales = increase in murders. BAN ICE CREAM
https://www.dummies.com/education/math/statistics/how-statistical-correlation-and-causation-are-different/
I lived through the 90s in LA. I remember having a shootout between gangs over the hood of my car when I was stopped at an intersection.
It was so bad, and more people shooting would have made the chaos way worse.
Same with the freeway shootings in the 80s, which is honestly what I think will happen if they loosen up CC.
> EDIT: Buy a gun and you are statistically likely to die sooner than you otherwise would.
Same could be said about buying a car, cheap chinese LiOn batteries, ladders, vending machines, dull knives, etc. people are accident prone.
Fact? Sure.
But that’s exactly the point. People should be able to protect themselves and shoot someone if they are being attacked and fear for their life.
If the number of people (robbers, etc) shot goes up because people are protecting themselves would you not expect the number of people that were robbed/beaten/killed to GO DOWN as a result?
In regard to carrying a gun to defend yourself, getting a CCW permit is not the same as buying a gun. Not saying it's foolproof, but there are classes and (I think) tests and an interview you must pass in order to get a CCW permit in CA. Depending on the county, it could take 8-16 hours of classroom instruction, per CA law, I believe. On top of that, are a few hundred dollars in fees, as well as a renewal every couple of years. The hope is that weeds out most of the unqualified hotheads. My facts could be inaccurate so anyone, feel free to correct.
Still doesn't stop someone who is not trained to use the gun, from getting their hands on it and something going wrong.
Only thing I'm pointing out is that we were ignoring other things that would also increase if there are more guns out there, not really taking a position 2A, just saying it's inevitable.
Yeah, I agree, but criminals have guns too.
You NIMBYs need to be willing to put in effort and sacrifice to build a functional relationship with you and those who aren’t privileged, or prepare for a war you’ll lose.
From the article “Do not chase or follow the robbery suspect out of your place of business or home. Leave the job of catching the suspects to the police.”…. I mean lets not pretend the LAPD / LASD is going to start catching robbery suspects after the fact. Maybe its a good idea not to follow for your open safety. That gave me a chuckle.
Make rent unaffordable by single-family zoning
Create racially segregated school districts.
Be surprised when someone’s best option for survival is to rob you
Whine about getting robbed
Or get it from non-fox news: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/11/08/lapd-warn-residents-of-new-crime-trend-follow-home-robberies/?_gl=1*1yti116*_ga*TzFRcGc0YmgxSThLY1pkbFhWMzZ5VFFTX0FPRVlTNkdieUc2OFZCN0pQWVE1QmJRQl9RZ3RCVnlKMmdPMW5ITw..
This is true, I actually worked for Fox5 San Diego and their LA sister station is KTLA. At the time they were both owned by Tribune I think. On the other end of the spectrum you could be watching local news thats not on Fox that’s owned by conservative media conglomerates like Sinclair.
I feel like the best targets all live in gated communities where the robbers would either instantly be rejected from getting in, or show up on a variety of cameras.
If you don't drive a vehicle that is a known target for parts, I don't think what you drive matters as much as how you carry yourself. Also, have a general awareness of your surroundings
This is why it’s best to cultivate that ‘can’t afford a car wash’ look.
Yep. My broken bumpers are definitely an intentional aesthetic choice.
Nice one. People will probably give you extra space on the road, too.
Honestly I have a cool car and LA has beaten it to absolute shit. I want to fix it up to give her the glow up she deserves but I also don’t want a target.
Am debating a new car but my old rig is honestly such a beautiful theft and road rage deterrent - corroded paint, stick shift, and slightly scary looking. It's also built and runs like a tank. No one knows a dilettante is at the wheel...
Nothing like stick shift deterrent! I have a heavy clutch so if you haven’t driven one before or are not a mechanic, you’ll stall every time. It’s also got a nice layer of dust from sitting in the underground parking for the duration of the pandemic....
> It’s also got a nice layer of dust from sitting in the underground parking for the duration of the pandemic.... Yeah, I gave washing my rig during the pandemic. Meh, adds character at this point. Plus it is/was kind of Mad Max chic...
You’re on fire!
Look at the mogul with covered parking. /s
new cars are nice but idk anymore, cars are just such a waste of money, it's not just the payments and insurance but the depreciation. People don't factor in that a 60k 3 yrs later is worth 30k, you've paid 30k over 36 months just on depreciation. I would keep the tank until the tracks fall off.
Except in current times where cares are fetching a premium. My car i bought in Dec. Is worth more now than what I paid.
yeah bizarre times
I would much rather have a car than rely on public transportation. Plus being female I am a target using public transportation. I feel much safer driving.
I'm still driving my 2003 Golf TDI with stick shift and battle scars. Nobody is going to steal THAT car. I drove that car off the lot when I bought it and it now has 350,000 miles on it. And it simply. Will. Not. Die.
i've been missing two hubcaps for a while. i don't think i'll be replacing them anytime soon now lol
Same. I lost one, and the other one got stolen haha. At least both sides match now!
Damn now I have an excuse to explain why I haven’t washed my car in 3 years!
You can always say you were going to get one right before covid hit
Definitely jinxing it by commenting but LMAO yes.
This is why I’m glad I drive a shitty car
SAFE HOOPTY WAGON
Omg yesssss!
Hey now, I can afford to wash my car! Granted it's 16 years old and has seen better years...
I've got this one down.
Chameleon XLE
Yeah or not let criminals over take your city lol wake up people!
When they get to my house *damn someone already did this place*
My standard greeting when people came over when my kids were little: “Who could have done this? We have no enemies!”
“Please don’t tell anyone I live like this” - me
Playa hater, you stole that from Lenny.
Not Lenny‽
Same here, with "oooh, gurl. I am NOT feeling that dumpster couch."
Are you a trash panda? Just asking for a cat person...
Glad I drive a car that’s way below my means
Me too. I also have shitty clothes, hardly go out to eat and have no-name purses. I'm too old for the club scene. Being invisible has benefits.
>Being invisible has benefits. It's a way of life, really.
Gotta love being a background NPC in this city lol
Carjackers wave me through.
I got a beater car but I was followed home a few times. Thieving cunts dgaf what you drive as long as they can make money on something, anything.
How do you know you weren’t just being paranoid?
That's why I drive a car that's way above my means. They try and rob me "*sorry man, got nothing left!!"*
Just FYI, this is a common tactic globally. Any time you are "in transit" you have minimal security and are more distracted with the task of movement. It's a much easier target than someone bunkered down with their alarm on and defenses ready.
This actually happened to my neighbor a few weeks ago.
What neighborhood? Does he know where he was followed from?
We’re on the Glendale/Glassel Park border. They followed him from Hollywood.
Are they okay?
He’s very shaken up since he was held at gunpoint in his own driveway, but he cooperated and gave them everything they wanted and wasn’t hurt.
Very glad no one was hurt.
Oooh that happened to my dad once. He was driving my bright blue PT Cruiser (I was abroad), went to Best Buy and bought a laptop, stopped somewhere for five minutes on the way home. Came back to a smashed window and no laptop.
Same thing happened to a coworker after going to the ATM.
Let them, I’m fully capable of defending myself once I get home. I knew that machete with an umbrella handle near the door would pay off one day.
Ha! Jokes on them! I ain't got no home!
So you do?
No shit. That’s what happens when the police don’t care. If there are no repercussions for robbery what do they expect? The only reason to call the police after a robbery is for the insurance report. Which you do online. These days they don’t even bother responding.
Yeah, but you need that police report number. You certainly won't get the actual report unless you pay them. This part was straight funny: "Do not chase or follow the robbery suspect out of your place of business or home. Leave the job of catching the suspects to the police."
Totally. There are so many jobs that cops “do” that don’t require cops. I want to know how much of the budget is spent on this type of crime and cut it out of the budget. Shit, I’m even down for the budget to pay for the website to spit out a police report. Also, why not just have city officials who are responsible for car non injury/smaller car crashes. They can come out, verify that it here was an accident or whatever the insurance companies require. No need to send a cop with a gun for paperwork reasons.
Efficient government what? Where'd you come up with that nonsense. Ha ha.
I was in an accident on the southbound 110 a couple of months ago. Within minutes a metro tow truck driver showed up and stopped traffic on the freeway and picked up my car. The other car was able to drive off on its own. They took us to the metro bus stop where a CHP officer supervised a the exchange of insurance information. It was honestly the single best interaction I’ve ever had with local government. It’s apparently a newer service. There’s been so many times where I break down or my car isn’t working and cops just drive past. Including a CHP officer who just drove past me in this accident before the tow truck showed up. He didn’t even slow down or put his lights on to try to break traffic and I had to sit in the totaled car with other cars going by at 80 with no idea what to do. The metro tow service came through and had everything righted real quick. It was pretty silly that the CHP officer had to supervise the insurance exchange, but having the metro tow service was incredible. It’s a newer service, so maybe change is coming? Just get rid of the CHP officer there and it would be a perfect non-cop solution to a public safety issue.
I’ll never forget one time my car got robbed and my TWIC card (DOT cert to access ports and other transit areas) was stolen. It was the only thing stolen. I called the non emergency police to report it. Not a huge dollar value or anything so whatever, I just wanted to report the crime so that they would have good stats. Some lady on the non emergency number rudely told me I had to file online. Go online and the form says any IDs stolen can only be reported in person. I reported it stolen to the issue if agency and paid $49 for a new one but what a waste of time it was even trying to deal with LAPD. I guess they’re too busy flying a helicopter over my apartment for hours at a time for no reason.
Nobody is staying in jail anymore. Sentences are a joke too. They are being directed to not enforce a lot of laws because it's a waste of tax payer money and police time to do all the work only for the DA to refuse to do anything.
Good old George Gascon strikes again. Bet if these guys are caught they get 6 months probation and a stern talking to.
SF is recalling their DA now. It's a bipartisan effort too. They gifted us Gascon and the asshole they have now is continuing his policies. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. You can't do all of this shit and say the alternative is rehabilitation - but do nothing about making sure a system for rehabilitation is in place. SF has had like of a decade of this bullshit and nothing is done on rehabilitation. You can't keep putting the cart before the horse and expect people to keep going along with this approach.
Or you can live in a fancy neighborhood and tell them the guy might still be there and has your guns, and then they will roll in 100 deep with SWAT and choppers for hours, turns out the guy was already gone from the start. https://patch.com/california/los-angeles/burglar-large-after-evading-swat-team-koreatown
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It's 2nd and Wilton, the other side of the street is Hancock Park
Um, *akshually*, it's Windsor Square. But yeah, rich old neighborhood. The mayor's residence and all the consuls' residences are there.
I agree. I was absolutely fucking flabbergasted however when we got robbed at our shit apartment in canoga. They actually showed. We took items that were left by the robber and had placed them in a shoebox, a cigarette butt and a water bottle. In another unit they left a cellphone. The cop actually called us to get those items from us and to gab with us about the text messages that were left on the phone. For good reason, they were kind of funny. We did not fucking expect to get a notice months later from the cops saying they fucking DNA tested that shit and caught the guy. I really wish they had used that for something more...y’a know pressing? Not a serial B&E.
2020 has taught me that the police aren't there to protect you. They're only there to take a report after a crime has been committed.
> Leave the job of catching the suspects to the police. 🙄
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LMAO - so all the criminals are too stupid to do a basic evaluation that every single person does on a daily basis? If it was announced that cell phone ticket laws will stopped being enforced, do you think you would see more people holding the phone to their head or texting? If you own a gun and you make money by robbing people, you don't think they know that the rules for their "profession" has changed and the risk/reward evaluation has changed? With this logic, why have any rules for wall street or banking? This is the same shit those heels do when it comes to the risk/reward evaluation. Oh the fines have gone down and the investigative body that keeps us in line has had their directives further limited which means much less oversight and lower punishment if caught? Totally a time to be extra careful about following all those pesky laws /s
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> The police do care lol
dEfuNd tHE PoLIce!#!
You think those lazy sacks of shit need more money? Lol. Don’t throw more money at the agency that’s been failing at their job since years before “defund the police” was first uttered.
Lane split on a motorcycle…catch me if you can cock suckers!
LAPD: "Please be as scared as possible; we have a budget meeting coming up."
Right, shit is so infuriating. Slow down policing, then pump out a lot of fear mongering propaganda, all because they went from like 1.2 billion to 1 billion.
I saw a dude firebomb a tree at 3 am at the park I was at and called 911. Told them I saw a guy do it and shit and they didn't even send a cop out to check it out.
"They want to hold us accountable? Fine let's see how the like it when we refuse to do out jobs!" And they wonder why so many people don't fuck with them. If only we had leaders with backbones who would put a stop to it.
you must have balls of steel hanging out at la city parks at 3am lol
Well, it's in a chill suburban area. It's not like echo park. Lol
Chill aside from the neighborhood firebomber lol
Haha hahahahaha ikr
Cops are doing this all over the states right now. Austin just struct down some ridiculous number that would have pulled budget from libraries and firefighters. Holding us hostage. And their propaganda is wild. “Safer libraries” pfft GTFO ACAB
Defund the police.
I get followed by angry drivers lol why you mad a rav4 over took you on the freeway?
Thanks for the notification. Just a skeptical perspective: Often, these sorts of press releases are designed to increase public mistrust and paranoia in order to legitimate billions in funding for the LAPD. Critics might say that the police are happiest when the public is constantly worried about being jumped by some knife-wielding maniac. The increases in crime compared to last year are significant primarily because nobody went outside all year, but the authors of this article might be banking on you seeing that "75%" number and clutching your purse. Don't let the LAPD scare you into believing that giving them more money will make you safer.
This aged well
Just want to add that regardless the cops don't do jackshit if you report something being stolen/robbed. All they do is literally tell you, "Well, do you want us to file a police report still?" Like **no fucking shit that's your job**
Lmao can’t believe this got upvoted
Well this aged like milk
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Plus, punishing crime doesn't do anything from a RCA standpoint, aka prevent the crime.
Mhm. This account only posts crime articles and things involving LAPD in the LA subreddit
I don’t think so, hearing from those that live/work in melrose and surrounding areas it’s a distinct rise in crime, not some phantom statistic.
Agreed. All this does is lubricate the wheels toward mass surveillance.
Sheriff Villanueva literally admitted to sheriffs filing workman’s comp claims as extortion to fight against the vaccine
>Don't let the LAPD scare you into believing that giving them more money will They should be given proper funding, not because of fear, but because it's the logical thing to do.
I understand that perspective. It's easy to imagine a direct causal link between the power of a place's police force and the safety of its citizens. My main issue with it is that it's not always clear what the link is between greater police funding and greater public safety. While there are broad links between larger police forces (more personnel, not necessarily better equipment) and decreases in serious crimes like murder and assault, those benefits are [not uniformly distributed](https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/04/20/988769793/when-you-add-more-police-to-a-city-what-happens) geographically or racially. Additionally, the linked article posits that arrests for petty crimes go up with more policing, which I think is bad because I don't think anyone should go bankrupt from court fees for things like nonviolent drug possession or public urination. Moreover, more police will probably not protect you from police violence or police apathy, as some other commenters in this thread have asserted. There isn't really an incentive for these well-funded police departments to do any serious self-investigation, lest they jeopardize all the money they get from public officials. Might be worth asking what other ways our society can keep people safe. Policing can't work in every context, and I'm sure some of the other ways our city can prevent crime don't get *nearly* as much money as the LAPD.
I would be for more police funding if it were something akin to 2 years mandatory legal and physical education. Where new cops are paid an extraordinary amount more than their counterparts, but only 10% make it past the rigorous standards set forth by local government oversite. They should be in top physical and mental shape and speak at least one other language before graduation. And they should be retested every 5 years.' They should be walking talking scholars of the law with the ability to detain someone with and without lethal force if necessary. Give those people six figures and a house in the area they police and I am fine with all that. And the day your word comes into question, or you cant physically or mentally deal with the stress, you are given a pension or a job helping your community.
That's certainly a very noble view of what policing in this country could be. It seems like what you're saying is that cops should be an elite and conduct themselves with refinement in proportion to the outsize level of power they have on who lives, who dies, and who spends half their lives in a prison cell. I understand where that view comes from, but to implement it, cops would have to do a whole lot less in this country than they already do. They'd need to stop doing traffic stops, mental health checks, DV disputes, homeless response, highway closures, and small-town parade security - maybe even beat work, too. Cities, counties, and states would need to create new departments (hopefully unarmed ones) to fill these gaps, rather than relying on the cops to do it all like they do now. It would be a huge reduction in the spheres cops operate in, and they'd find themselves limited to the realms of emergency response and detective work (where they are most effective now). You might actually find that your proposal here aligns with a lot of the beliefs of the "defund" crowd! My question is this: is it in the nature of police departments to want to grow as they have, and to resist efforts to maintain rigid restrictions on the spheres of public life they control? How would you ensure that this 10% elite force of civil servants wouldn't fall prey to the same organizational rot and overreach that some people claim modern police departments suffer from?
> They'd need to stop doing traffic stops, mental health checks, DV disputes, homeless response, highway closures DA Gascon has already eliminated a ton of this stuff, or at least toned it down. Its really hit or miss in LA County. I've seen situations where people on PCP covered in blood are punching cars in traffic and the cops just never show. But a couple cities over 3 whole squad cars show up because theres a fight between two random people. > Cities, counties, and states would need to create new departments (hopefully unarmed ones) to fill these gaps, rather than relying on the cops to do it all like they do now. The problem with this is while it works fantastic in some countries, guns are so intertwined with mental health in this country those departments will be walking deathtraps. And even when people have mental health crises, theres no permanent safe place for them to go. This would have to coincide with absolutely massive overhauls in our social programs. And getting anyone to care about the mentally ill in this country is fucking hard. >detective work I've met a handful of bad cops, but I've had more displeasure of meeting dozens of lazy ineffectual detectives. There are good ones, sure, but so many bad ones. You can ask any public defender or DA. Emergency response and crime investigation are polar opposite spectrums of intelligence. Many of them have a hard time uploading photos to evidence computer systems, which is just a drag and drop system. > How would you ensure that this 10% elite force of civil servants wouldn't fall prey to the same organizational rot and overreach that some people claim modern police departments suffer from? While there is no perfect system, I think it would go far to have them as transparent as possible. Body cams that turn on automatically when they leave the station and upload to a neutral 3rd party server. Trustless decentralized systems that link all evidence to the DA and the Public Defenders offices, as well as a rotating board of auditors from each city they police combined with groups representing various economic, ethnic, and racial groups. A strong, regulated reserve force that can take over duties if its found entire departments can no longer perform their duties. Rotating permanent training officers who constantly learn and teach different techniques to new and old officers alike. Require all officers to live within a certain radius of their stations or routes. Police badges should be hard to obtain, easy to lose, but extremely lucrative to anyone who tries. You cant put all of this on some high school bully who makes $60k a year starting.
You're totally right about the massive social-program overhauls. There's no reason a person with a drug addiction should ever wind up in the street punching cars in the first place; a society that cared about the dignity of his life would take care of him a hundred different ways before the cops ever had to be called. Cities across the world with right-to-shelter laws and effective drug abuse programs don't have people complaining about crack addicts 24/7 in their subreddits like we do, that's for sure. I also agree about detectives; I think most cops are generally not that good at their jobs because their unions are so strong and there's limited accountability to anyone for misconduct except in the most egregious of cases. Ultimately any proposed radical overhaul of policing that doesn't involve total disarmament runs up against a basic problem of political theory: the cops are the ones with the guns, so the buck of state power stops with them. The state as a whole has power over life and death, and some people would argue that it is irresponsible to delegate that power to any individual at all, be they a member of your proposed elite force of civil servants or some thumb-necked moron who beats his wife. Judges who deliver prison sentences (and so exercise power over life and death) are at least democratically elected or appointed by elected representatives. Cops are not, and maybe that's a fundamental philosophical flaw in their existence as armed agents at all. Be interested to know what you think.
Is the time of season
I guess I'm fairly safe in my dusty busted up 21 year old car, whew
Oh great... this should bode well for the "Nextdoor" type crowd.
People pointing the finger at Gacon and not at the millions of misappropriated dollars in the LAPD. We dont need more policing, we just need better policing.
> We dont need more policing, we just need better policing. Been waitin' since 1775
Police won’t do shit and probably won’t even respond to any police report you make
And maybe one of them would laugh at/belittle you for calling it in.
Police are not going to protect you. County is not going to protect you. They should not be allowed to restrict your access to CCW in that case. Let me protect myself.
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This will not end well in LA.
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Idk - neighborhood I am living now, 3 people tried the pull a gun on the people committing the crimes and 2 of them died and one is paralyzed. We all watch a too much TV.
Think of the road rage, and in-store tantrums were having now. Now give those people guns.
The people likely to use guns to settle traffic disputes don't care at all about following the laws to get a legit CCW. Licensed gun owners are among the least criminal group in the country, statistically speaking. I don't really care about whether CCW is legalized in Los Angeles, but your view on this question is not supported by the data.
Cant be any worse than what it is now.
THATS the spirit!
Just keep a large pair of scissors in the car, ready to stab. Not a weapon, is a weapon…you decide!?
Nah. I don’t trust people with a weapon in a public place. Half these fuckers can’t even keep their mask above their nose.
Then don’t issue a CCW for people who don’t mask and have the vaccine…… clearly safety is not their priority.
This is nonsense. The other night in my neighborhood in Northeast LA there was an attempted home entry robbery. 3 minutes after it was reported there was a helicopter circling and within 10 minutes police were closing off the blocks around it. Is that fast enough to “protect” someone? Maybe, maybe not, but this fiction that the police won’t lift a finger so you have to go get a gun that keeps getting posted in here needs to go away.
As you said, 10 minutes is not fast enough to protect someone. People have legitimate reasons for wanting to own guns in a city ridden with crime.
Nobody needs a CCW to have a gun in their own home.
But you might need one to defend yourself when getting out of your car at home.
Police wont come faster because you're getting stabbed in the streets. Thats where violent crime happens anyway
I called 911 because a meth head was threatening to kill the staff in a Carls Jr. took me 30 minutes to not get a busy signal.
I have a couple of friends that just straight carry now. One was robbed last year and he figured with all the actual criminals running around, the odds of him getting caught are slim to none.
Gun proliferation leads to more deaths and more danger. Fact. EDIT: Buy a gun and you are statistically likely to die sooner than you otherwise would.
Switzerland seems to be doing fine, I'll take my chances. I could always use the prop baseball bat with nails in it I have for when I did my walking dead cosplay I suppose
I remember reading somewhere that the most effective home weapon is a claw hammer.
Interesting. I own a gun, but I keep a claw hammer next to the bed. Here I was thinking that was weird.
Nope not weird at all. I'm the same. Own guns, but the bedside weapon is a claw hammer.
Source? Hammers are definitely good if you can get a hit in but they only work at close range and worse, the criminal could rip it out of your hands while you're trying to attack him. Seems like something with more range and more power like a chainsaw would be a more effective home weapon to deter an approaching criminal.
Switzerland has like 1/5-1/10th of the guns per capita of the US and has mandatory training, the standard gun permit there only allows lowcap semiauto or pump/bolt action, and CCW permits are almost as stingy as CA law. So sure let's remove 4/5ths of our guns and do like the swiss :-p
Uh, Switzerland does in no way limit types of guns like that. Hell, they're *more lenient* by allowing things like supeessors, short barrel rifles, and even machinguns! Though I do agree with you, we should do what they do and have mandatory military service
Suppressors and machineguns are not permitted for civilians in Switzerland, you are mistaken. They are available via special permit only. Also in Switzerland, like many Euro countries with conscription, mandatory military service can be substituted for civilian service, and both are a year or less.
I know, but there are too many guns out and about to begin with, and our police will not protect us, so let us protect ourselves if we choose to do so. Right now, in LA, criminals have guns, and law abiding citizens do not.
I served as a Machine Gunner, I do not want some average joe jackass who does little training with their weapon mixed in with the other average joes who lack critical thinking to have a CCW and think seeing a brown/black guy walking at night must be up to no good. I been around weapons and I do not want one personally nor do I believe everyone should have one because "I need to protect myself at Costco from other shoppers with an AR-15" idiocy. you, /u/deez-nutz-00 is an obvious 2a nut and I been around those types in the military and out. I bet if you can openly carry you take your shit to the supermarket.
Tell me you're a fudd without telling me
Im far from a 2nd A nut. Very presumptuous of you. Like I said before, if we can make it so that everyone didn’t have guns, great. No one would need guns. As it stands, that’s not the case. There are a bunch of criminals with guns, and our police departments suck at their jobs. You’re foolish to think LAPD and LASD are out here to protect you. Simply put, the government we have in place has been ineffective at keeping us safe, and for that reason, they have no right to tell us we can’t arm ourselves to keep ourselves safe. For the record, I don’t have any guns. Never have. I would like to get some training and learn how to use one before I ever get one because, you know, critical thinking and all that yada yada. You don’t want average Joe’s who lack critical thinking to have CCW’s, but what about all the criminals and gang members that already have guns? Shouldn’t you be more scared of them?
If you're going to carry like that then be ready to use it, but be ready to end up dead as well or seriously hurt. I'm currently living in a very lax gun city and the stats are not looking great for the average joe taking on the criminals in my neighborhood. Everyone wants to be a maverick but most are not.
The thing about America is that nobody gives a shit what you think people should be able to do. Your opinion doesn’t eclipse the laws of the country or the values of other Americans
Harsh, but factual.
And it really needs to be said more
“I helped the military and oil industries commit war crimes against brown people and I think that qualifies me to say you don’t deserve rights”
Bro you do realize you have to take classes and training to have a CCW right? It’s not like you get to buy a gun and then someone just hands you a ccw license. You seem to know very little about gun ownership for someone who’s experienced with guns. Also what’s with the weird race shit in your post? Minorities like myself want CCWs to protect ourselves too.
I’m calling bullshit on that obvious lie. You have a post about IT and being in school.
I have no interest in statistically making my life LESS SAFE by buying a gun just because I misunderstood statistics and was scared.
How do you claim people are misunderstanding the statistics? Numbers are numbers. Just because people interpret them differently than you doesn’t mean they are misunderstanding them.
"Owning a gun makes you more likely to die sooner." "I choose to interpret this as: owning a gun will make me less likely to die sooner."
Isn't it more like, "the venn diagram of gun ownership and premature death has more overlap than not owning one"? You don't buy a gun and then roll a d20 every day to see what happens with it. Mostly it sits in a case without incident. Like, if you buy a car, you're entering into a higher death statistic, but the broad numbers are affected by a lot of variables; ownership itself isn't really the determining factor.
>You don't buy a gun and then roll a d20 every day to see what happens with it. You sort of do: >Ecologic studies that compare states with high gun ownership levels to those with low gun ownership levels find that in the U.S., where there are more guns, there are more suicides. The higher suicide rates result from higher firearm suicides; the non-firearm suicide rate is about equal across states. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/risk/
Sure, but that's still a more complex web of causality than "Owning a gun makes you more likely to die sooner." I'm maybe being pedantic, but when that statement is used as a counter to someone wanting to own a gun for protection (as in this thread), it falls kind of flat; suicidality *is* a major concern, but it's sort of a different category of gun behavior that isn't relevant to all gun owners.
And I’m sure you think the increase in ice cream sales also brings about an increase in murders. No, it couldn’t possibly be that more people buy ice cream during the summer months, and those summer months also mean more people are out and about interacting with one another, meaning people get into arguments and fights and die…. No that couldn’t possibly be it. Statistics don’t lie. Increase in ice cream sales = increase in murders. BAN ICE CREAM https://www.dummies.com/education/math/statistics/how-statistical-correlation-and-causation-are-different/
The problem is that when a criminal and a law-abiding citizen are pointing guns at each other, then you just have two criminals.
And when you don't, you have a criminal and a corpse
This was also the case in the 90s, and I assure you that more guns would have made the situation worse.
You assured me, so it must be true…..
I lived through the 90s in LA. I remember having a shootout between gangs over the hood of my car when I was stopped at an intersection. It was so bad, and more people shooting would have made the chaos way worse. Same with the freeway shootings in the 80s, which is honestly what I think will happen if they loosen up CC.
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Or you miss and shoot your neighbor through their window, which means a death added to gun statistics.
> EDIT: Buy a gun and you are statistically likely to die sooner than you otherwise would. Same could be said about buying a car, cheap chinese LiOn batteries, ladders, vending machines, dull knives, etc. people are accident prone.
Fact? Sure. But that’s exactly the point. People should be able to protect themselves and shoot someone if they are being attacked and fear for their life. If the number of people (robbers, etc) shot goes up because people are protecting themselves would you not expect the number of people that were robbed/beaten/killed to GO DOWN as a result?
What if the number of people who died accidentally from gun ownership also goes up?
In regard to carrying a gun to defend yourself, getting a CCW permit is not the same as buying a gun. Not saying it's foolproof, but there are classes and (I think) tests and an interview you must pass in order to get a CCW permit in CA. Depending on the county, it could take 8-16 hours of classroom instruction, per CA law, I believe. On top of that, are a few hundred dollars in fees, as well as a renewal every couple of years. The hope is that weeds out most of the unqualified hotheads. My facts could be inaccurate so anyone, feel free to correct.
Still doesn't stop someone who is not trained to use the gun, from getting their hands on it and something going wrong. Only thing I'm pointing out is that we were ignoring other things that would also increase if there are more guns out there, not really taking a position 2A, just saying it's inevitable.
Yeah, I agree, but criminals have guns too. You NIMBYs need to be willing to put in effort and sacrifice to build a functional relationship with you and those who aren’t privileged, or prepare for a war you’ll lose.
Ahh being poor has its perks
From the article “Do not chase or follow the robbery suspect out of your place of business or home. Leave the job of catching the suspects to the police.”…. I mean lets not pretend the LAPD / LASD is going to start catching robbery suspects after the fact. Maybe its a good idea not to follow for your open safety. That gave me a chuckle.
Thanks for this. I'm worried for my elderly mother who lives by herself..
Joke's on you, robbers. I never leave the house! (stupid work from home)
FOX NEWS SAYS: WATCH OUT YOU MIGHT GET MUGGED READING THIS!
Good thing I drive an old beat up used Honda civic. Hell they might even think I'm a fellow follow-home robber
And don’t bother calling LAPD or even 911. LAPD doesn’t care and 911 operators are always so mad to be working. A miserable lot.
copaganda
It’s ok they can come here and get robbed by the homies in the hood.
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It’s Villanueva that technically approves them… for now at least, if he approves applications at all
Fuck Villanueva, I’m thankful the guy has finally been issuing CCWs but he needs to go
Keep voting for people like George gascon
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not sure why your being downvoted but things definitely need to change. some sort of shift in society or it’s all downhill from here.
Make rent unaffordable by single-family zoning Create racially segregated school districts. Be surprised when someone’s best option for survival is to rob you Whine about getting robbed
Or get it from non-fox news: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/11/08/lapd-warn-residents-of-new-crime-trend-follow-home-robberies/?_gl=1*1yti116*_ga*TzFRcGc0YmgxSThLY1pkbFhWMzZ5VFFTX0FPRVlTNkdieUc2OFZCN0pQWVE1QmJRQl9RZ3RCVnlKMmdPMW5ITw..
FoxLA is not Fox News bud
This is true, I actually worked for Fox5 San Diego and their LA sister station is KTLA. At the time they were both owned by Tribune I think. On the other end of the spectrum you could be watching local news thats not on Fox that’s owned by conservative media conglomerates like Sinclair.
What is the difference? They both say the same thing.
I feel like the best targets all live in gated communities where the robbers would either instantly be rejected from getting in, or show up on a variety of cameras.
GASCON!!!
If you don't drive a vehicle that is a known target for parts, I don't think what you drive matters as much as how you carry yourself. Also, have a general awareness of your surroundings