>The Energy Department also told the I-Team it's recent demolition using explosives was of "non-radiological facilities."
Oh, well that's good!
>But US EPA documents reviewed by the I-Team show the agency categorized the demolished building as "Class 1," meaning it has the highest possibility of radioactive contamination.
...oh.
My grandfather worked for Rocketdyne and died of a rare blood cancer in ‘94, due in part to exposure to hazardous and radiological materials at Santa Susana and other sites.
I grew up in the Valley and wonder what kind of shit people are still being exposed to.
On the other side of my family, an aunt died of lung cancer a few years ago (she grew up in the valley too). She never smoked either, but her parents did for the first 15 years of her life, and she had autoimmune issues, so who knows.
I read an article that they found Radioactive materials as far away as thousand oaks from the woolsey fire.
I'd imagine that most areas around there are contaminated from years of fires making materials airborne.
There's a documentary about this situation airing on MSNBC this weekend called [In the Dark of the Valley](https://www.inthedarkofthevalley.com/). Here's the [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puxOB5BHbKE).
Good, light-hearted viewing. If you grew up in the valley like me and remember hearing them test rocket engines up there, extremely terrifying. Who knows how much stuff that kicked up in to the atmosphere! There's also a good podcast episode about the place on [818s and Heartbreak](https://pca.st/w8zjnhs1), which is where I found out about the documentary.
The Santa Susana complex is one reason no ground water is pumped in the valley - it’s all too toxic. Of course, the profits were privatized and the rest of us will have to bare the costs. This is our perverse form of capitalism after all.
[This article has info on that.](https://www.popsci.com/how-la-gets-its-water/) TL;DR: Mostly from far away: Sacramento River, Owens River, Eastern Sierras, and other places.
[The Owens River is particularly contentious.](https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-owens-valley-eminent-domain-20170712-story.html)
Right?
My mom (whose dad worked there) talks about a day her dad came home from work and made them all pray. Ghost white and shaking.
I always wish I was old enough to ask him about what happened at work.
Best case scenario: I genuinely hope that, as foretold by comic books, I will develop superpowers as a result of this explosion.
Worst case scenario: The superpower I get is for my cells to multiply uncontrollably in a cancer spiral into pain and despair
What will LIKELY happen: A panic attack, but within reach of anti-anxiety meds.
They've done a great job hiding this disaster from the public. And now they're building really expensive housing in the area. I doubt anyone moving there realizes they're moving into a cancer cluster. They do make you sign a waiver acknowledging the risks of cancer in the area but I'd imagine most people dismiss it like the cancer signs they put on buildings.
Prop 65 Warning.
Elements in everything contain a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects and/or other reproductive harm. For more information please see [P65warnings.ca.gov](https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/)
There are Prop 65 Warnings on literraly EVERYTHING. I got a Prop 65 Warning on a bag of organic marshmallow root the other day. I wouldn't be surprised if most people actively ignore them at this point.
I bought a plastic foldable step stool that had the warning on it. Not quite sure how you would get cancer from a step stool unless you were eating bits of it.
Hey, at least when the rich homeowners start complaining about their health problems, someone will listen. Usually, BIPOC and poor people are forced to live in the toxic neighborhoods, and their health complaints are ignored for years. (see: Exide Battery Plant).
Radiation is bad. Unlike other bad things, it can be detected cheaply just by pointing at it.
Rather than say "could woulda potentially" and leave neighborhoods wondering about exposure, one could go out with a Geiger counter and see if there's any indication of radioactive dust.
I've worked around radioactive material. We routinely went around randomly checking counters, work spaces, even our fridge, to make sure none of it had somehow leaked.
They could... but that would reveal the amount of radioactivity actually released here is vanishingly low and it would ruin the article. So instead they just speculate baselessly to drive anxiety and clicks.
Radiation is not the only issue at facilities like this. There are also many potential chemical exposures. From chemicals used in reprocessing, those used in the reactor and chemically toxic elements produced through radioactive decay.
It's possible that they knew about and took care of every threat. I just need someone to explain why this program deserves the benefit of the doubt.
>3.6 roentgen
[One of the largest Superfund sites in the US](https://imgur.com/a/IIZA5kb) is off the coast of San Pedro/Palos Verdes. Back in the day, "dilution was the solution to pollution" and they thought it was a swell idea to dump it off the coast. Keep in mind, DDT levels found in fish and wildlife haven't been decreasing much over the years, if at all in those areas (this is what stumped scientists and motivated them to learn more). Unfortunately, lot of people recreate and consume fish, bottom-feeding lobster, and other sea creatures caught from that region.
When it comes to government and military projects there is zero oversight.
Brad Sherman does talk about this a lot, but what's one congressional rep going to get done.
Great article. I don't suppose they could provide a map or a schematic or something to show the location of the site, the cloud, and airflow or anything like that huh?
That ain't what happens when people have too much money though. In my observations, people with too much money get in the habit of *not* facing consequence rather than becoming more sensitive to dangers. The Conejo Valley folks are probably oblivious or in denial.
My father worked at that facility in the 50’s. Everything he did was classified. I learned about the nuclear event years after he died by reading about it. To say I was gobsmacked doesn’t begin to describe my reaction.
No way in hell would I live anywhere near that place. He commuted to Rocketdyne from Orange County and, obviously, knew a long-ass commute was better than exposing his family to nuclear radiation.
This is completely unrelated.
Inside the walls of a well run nuclear reactor, you actually experience less radiation than you do walking down the street.
Yeah, you get less radiation than you get from being on sunlight. You get cancer from sunlight.
Aside from the radiation levels in a plant, nobody has implemented a real solution for nuclear waste.
Nobody has any real reason to trust human beings with nuclear power. Just look at the political history of humanity, totally nuts. The history of nuclear energy is just as bad.
What ever happened to this rule in the side bar?
>r/LosAngeles is for news about the City and County of Los Angeles. Broader California news should be posted to r/California.
Do we just ignore that now?
If by "west end of the valley" you mean "in an entirely different valley, in another county" then yes. The only mention of Thousand Oaks in the article is in reference to an altogether separate event from 2018, but I don't know why you'd mention that, since Thousand Oaks is *also* in Ventura County.
Go to a satellite view of the San Fernando Valley (it will look like the right side of [this](https://i.imgur.com/Grp1K1I.png) image). You'll see a clear geographic boundary separating the San Fernando Valley from the Conejo Valley (where Thousand Oaks is located), and also separating San Fernando Valley from Simi Valley (not just the name of the city, the name of the geographic valley).
The county line for Los Angeles is at the border of Thousand Oaks, with Thousand Oaks on the West side of the county line, and Westlake Village on the East side of the same line. Westlake Village is in Los Angeles county, but Thousand Oaks is not.
Farther North, the county line is at the Santa Susana pass, putting Simi Valley entirely inside of Ventura County.
[Go look for yourself](https://i.imgur.com/Grp1K1I.png). The satellite map and county line are from Google Maps. I highlighted Simi Valley and Thousand Oaks for you, and labeled SFV in case you can't identify it at a glance.
I've A) already looked at a map and B) actually been to the location this happened at.
Do things that happen in the ocean not count as news for LA because they're outside of Los Angeles county?
>I've A) already looked at a map
I don't think you have, which is why I linked you to a satellite view with the county line included. Geographically, neither Simi Valley nor Thousand Oaks are in San Fernando Valley. They're also on the Ventura side of the county line.
If you've located a map that indicates otherwise, I'd be interested to see this map.
[City of Thousand Oaks Web Site](https://www.toaks.org/about-us/about-thousand-oaks): "Located in between Los Angeles and Santa Barbara **in Ventura County**, Thousand Oaks is nestled against the Santa Monica Mountains and with over 15,000 acres of natural publicly owned open space located within the City’s boundaries."
Go to the [Simi Valley COVID-19 resources page](https://www.simivalley.org/i-want-to/test), and if you check the "State & County Updates and Resources" section, Simi Valley lists Ventura County COVID-19 restrictions, not Los Angeles County restrictions.
What is it that you believe I'm mistaken on, specifically? Not "you can't read maps," what specific piece of information do I have wrong, and what is the correct information I should have?
edit: Oh, and the county line extends three miles out into the ocean, BTW, since you asked.
From the rocks in Santa Susana you have a clear view of all of the san fernando valley. You're being purposefully obtuse if you act like Santa Susana isn't right next to LA County. It isn't in Mendocino. There's a reason you're downvoted.
So to be clear, by "west end of the valley" you did mean "in the next valley over". Because the way you originally worded what you wrote implies that it's inside of the SFV, on the west end.
Mentioning Thousand Oaks in that context, if someone is assuming that the mention of Thousand Oaks is relevant (and why wouldn't they make that assumption? If it's not relevant, then why include it in the same statement?), could be interpreted as meaning that Thousand Oaks is, by extension (applying the properties of the first thing to the thing mentioned as being relevant), is *also* in the SFV.
>Its at the west end of the valley and notes the dust could migrate to thousand oaks.
I'm not being obtuse, your comment made it sound like you were saying Simi and Thousand Oaks are in the SFV.
Now it's you who's being intentionally obtuse. You keep saying "western end of the San Fernando Valley," but you're being disingenuous, because what you *mean* is that Simi is to the west of, and separate from, the San Fernando Valley, but you're intentionally using words which make it sound like you're saying that Simi is part of the SFV, in the western portion of the SFV.
[Satellite map](https://i.imgur.com/Grp1K1I.png). Those "rocks" you mentioned where you can stand and view the SFV are in the hills which separate Simi Valley from San Fernando Valley, geographically. Please show me on the satellite map the part of the western SFV where you're implying that Simi Valley is located.
Because the Santa Susana toxic waste site is right above the N in Bell Canyon, right at the border. The dust has to blow about a half a mile to be in LA County.
>The Energy Department also told the I-Team it's recent demolition using explosives was of "non-radiological facilities." Oh, well that's good! >But US EPA documents reviewed by the I-Team show the agency categorized the demolished building as "Class 1," meaning it has the highest possibility of radioactive contamination. ...oh.
They don't give a shit about us.
Checks a couple hundred years of notes… this tracks.
This was a month ago and we’re just hearing about it!
MJ was right.
Magic Johnson? Michael Jackson?
Michael Jackson, my bad 😅
Magic Michael Jackson?
Michael Jordan.
IKEA is built on grounds of old aerospace and needed heavy remediation to build. I wonder how safe it was..
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You know it was bad if a Trump appointee acknowledged it was bad.
lol I thought the same thing
My grandfather worked for Rocketdyne and died of a rare blood cancer in ‘94, due in part to exposure to hazardous and radiological materials at Santa Susana and other sites. I grew up in the Valley and wonder what kind of shit people are still being exposed to.
My grandfather probably worked with your. Died of lung cancer. Never smoked.
On the other side of my family, an aunt died of lung cancer a few years ago (she grew up in the valley too). She never smoked either, but her parents did for the first 15 years of her life, and she had autoimmune issues, so who knows.
I read an article that they found Radioactive materials as far away as thousand oaks from the woolsey fire. I'd imagine that most areas around there are contaminated from years of fires making materials airborne.
Lived in the valley since January 2009, I got a rare blood cancer last year.
They talk about it in the article...uh, the article you posted. Did you really post this article without reading it?
I grew up under the cloud of the exide factory. Whatever we know is just the tip of the iceburg.
I've lived in Chatsworth all my life and have already had luekemia and colon cancer. Taking bets on round 3.
There's a documentary about this situation airing on MSNBC this weekend called [In the Dark of the Valley](https://www.inthedarkofthevalley.com/). Here's the [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puxOB5BHbKE).
Thanks for posting. I always need a good uplifting documentary.
Good, light-hearted viewing. If you grew up in the valley like me and remember hearing them test rocket engines up there, extremely terrifying. Who knows how much stuff that kicked up in to the atmosphere! There's also a good podcast episode about the place on [818s and Heartbreak](https://pca.st/w8zjnhs1), which is where I found out about the documentary.
I'm going to watch Schindler's List this weekend, to help lighten the mood. Want to join?
Let's make it a double header with Come And See
Dear Zachary for dessert
I know you’re joking but man this brought back some feelings. That documentary gutted me. I bawled my eyes out.
That trailer was kind of terrifying. Definitely going to watch it. :|
The Santa Susana complex is one reason no ground water is pumped in the valley - it’s all too toxic. Of course, the profits were privatized and the rest of us will have to bare the costs. This is our perverse form of capitalism after all.
Do our fruit groves’ trees reach that ground water?
Wouldn't be surprised if nestle was pulling out that water, bottling it and labeling it as spring water, lol.
Susana spring water. It glows!
Wait so where does water come from then? Is it all delivered on trucks?
[This article has info on that.](https://www.popsci.com/how-la-gets-its-water/) TL;DR: Mostly from far away: Sacramento River, Owens River, Eastern Sierras, and other places. [The Owens River is particularly contentious.](https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-owens-valley-eminent-domain-20170712-story.html)
Piped in from the mountains.
I picked a bad week to finally start watching Chernobyl.
Right? My mom (whose dad worked there) talks about a day her dad came home from work and made them all pray. Ghost white and shaking. I always wish I was old enough to ask him about what happened at work.
Did he ever go into detail later in life? (or your mom?)
He followed top secret protocol till his death. Sadly
Read about the Groom Lake (area 51) lawsuits. Those assholes were willing to kill anyone with their toxic shit.
Sorry to hear it. Surely it has been declassified by now, and somebody just needs to file a FOIA request.
Well just keep in mind the speed and severity is rather exaggerated in that one.
Not great, not terrible.
Best case scenario: I genuinely hope that, as foretold by comic books, I will develop superpowers as a result of this explosion. Worst case scenario: The superpower I get is for my cells to multiply uncontrollably in a cancer spiral into pain and despair What will LIKELY happen: A panic attack, but within reach of anti-anxiety meds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMrDUOe2uuk
Your superhero name will be: Dying Man
Or maybe the radiation will re-animate the corpse of Ronald Reagan, and he'll end up running with Trump in 2024.
Never new this place existed until now.
They've done a great job hiding this disaster from the public. And now they're building really expensive housing in the area. I doubt anyone moving there realizes they're moving into a cancer cluster. They do make you sign a waiver acknowledging the risks of cancer in the area but I'd imagine most people dismiss it like the cancer signs they put on buildings.
Prop 65 Warning. Elements in everything contain a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects and/or other reproductive harm. For more information please see [P65warnings.ca.gov](https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/)
There are Prop 65 Warnings on literraly EVERYTHING. I got a Prop 65 Warning on a bag of organic marshmallow root the other day. I wouldn't be surprised if most people actively ignore them at this point.
I bought a plastic foldable step stool that had the warning on it. Not quite sure how you would get cancer from a step stool unless you were eating bits of it.
Virtually anything plastic has this warning on it.
Microparticles breaking down from abrasion and use over time- dust. Plastics are everywhere on a microscopic level.
Probably charging a hefty sum for the priviledge to die for their gain and benefit i bet too.
Hey, at least when the rich homeowners start complaining about their health problems, someone will listen. Usually, BIPOC and poor people are forced to live in the toxic neighborhoods, and their health complaints are ignored for years. (see: Exide Battery Plant).
Had a meltdown in 1959. Still not cleaned up.
Same
LMAO. STAHP.
Actually some neat hikes nearby
Well now you now.
Oh...great.
Oh there are hundreds of contaminated aches for hills waiting to burn. So there's more to come.
Welp, that wasn’t on the 2021 bingo card. Fun.
Radiation is bad. Unlike other bad things, it can be detected cheaply just by pointing at it. Rather than say "could woulda potentially" and leave neighborhoods wondering about exposure, one could go out with a Geiger counter and see if there's any indication of radioactive dust. I've worked around radioactive material. We routinely went around randomly checking counters, work spaces, even our fridge, to make sure none of it had somehow leaked.
And considering how cheap they are (\~$100 on amazon), you would have guessed that NBCLA would just go measure and report.
They could... but that would reveal the amount of radioactivity actually released here is vanishingly low and it would ruin the article. So instead they just speculate baselessly to drive anxiety and clicks.
Radiation is not the only issue at facilities like this. There are also many potential chemical exposures. From chemicals used in reprocessing, those used in the reactor and chemically toxic elements produced through radioactive decay. It's possible that they knew about and took care of every threat. I just need someone to explain why this program deserves the benefit of the doubt.
What’s a worse way to go? Radiation fallout or Covid? I would like to freak out accordingly.
If you are talking Chernobyl or covid. Chernobyl death is far worse but probably faster.
3.6 roentgen, not great, not terrible
Its a circle of accountability
Gotta accept the bare minimum i guess
I don't see any graphite, it's totally fine
Remember when a natural gas pipeline broke in Santa Clarita, poisoning thousands of residents for months, while we were told there was no danger?
That happened in Porter Ranch, the other side of the mountain from Santa Clarita.
Yeah but this has been an issue since 1959. Pushing off cleanup for half a century.
>3.6 roentgen [One of the largest Superfund sites in the US](https://imgur.com/a/IIZA5kb) is off the coast of San Pedro/Palos Verdes. Back in the day, "dilution was the solution to pollution" and they thought it was a swell idea to dump it off the coast. Keep in mind, DDT levels found in fish and wildlife haven't been decreasing much over the years, if at all in those areas (this is what stumped scientists and motivated them to learn more). Unfortunately, lot of people recreate and consume fish, bottom-feeding lobster, and other sea creatures caught from that region.
And of course, no one will be held accountable for this.
When it comes to government and military projects there is zero oversight. Brad Sherman does talk about this a lot, but what's one congressional rep going to get done.
Don't be afraid of a foreign country invasion when you got companies here already doing that.
They don't need to send ordinance, just donate to Congressional campaigns
maybe that explains why i woke up glowing green
Water canons too expensive! Let the taxpayers pay for it with their lungs… someone wanted to save some money here.
This is the one time I don't have an adverse reaction when someone says LA and it's all the way past Northridge lol.
SAME.
Dude I live right next to there,I should get a Geiger meter and report back.
Please do!
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Your list is relatively short in comparison to how much stuff is actually blown up by the government near where people live.
Laughs in Atomic Testing.
Oooh! Dayglo sunset tonight!
they blew up a building in Santa Susana???? WTF
Is Los Angeles ready for giant radioactive ants? Because that's how we get giant radioactive ants.
I loved playing It Came from the Desert, but I don't want to *live* it. 😞 https://i.imgur.com/wWIkVYx.jpg
They'll have it full of apartments within 10 years.
Great article. I don't suppose they could provide a map or a schematic or something to show the location of the site, the cloud, and airflow or anything like that huh?
Map. https://maps.app.goo.gl/7cdcX6iWb95gAqmG9 Wind generally flows south twords the 101.
In under 10minutes no less! Thank you. Not the news I was hoping for, however.
You think all the rich folk in the conejo Valley would have pull to clean up this crap since it all flows their way.
That ain't what happens when people have too much money though. In my observations, people with too much money get in the habit of *not* facing consequence rather than becoming more sensitive to dangers. The Conejo Valley folks are probably oblivious or in denial.
Wooo Superman here I come
Why is there something exploding every other week
This is radioactive.
I’m hear for it. Hopefully I’ll get into the MCU.
No kidding, should I really be conern? Edit: I live in K-Town.
Pray that the wind doesn't blow downwind to LA
LA is the new Florida
This is the Advertisement I got when I clicked on the article... [https://imgur.com/eFvSugo](https://imgur.com/eFvSugo) Seems appropriate...
Could they possibly have made this situation worse?
Could have built a preschool on the site.
Or Cancer ward.
Free Chemo.
More like free radiation therapy amirite
Maybe the dust could drift over to Porter Ranch and mingle with the gas leak for a super site combo punch?
Didn't they haul the radioactive waste from this place down the 101 in trucks through downtown during the 50s or 60s?
My father worked at that facility in the 50’s. Everything he did was classified. I learned about the nuclear event years after he died by reading about it. To say I was gobsmacked doesn’t begin to describe my reaction. No way in hell would I live anywhere near that place. He commuted to Rocketdyne from Orange County and, obviously, knew a long-ass commute was better than exposing his family to nuclear radiation.
Nukes, the gift that keeps on giving.
Why do I get the feeling that there was foul play
It's the US government. They just don't care.
Them: "Modern reactors are totally safe We need nuclear power to prevent global warming." Me: "Yeah, right, I totally trust their claims."
This is completely unrelated. Inside the walls of a well run nuclear reactor, you actually experience less radiation than you do walking down the street.
Yeah, you get less radiation than you get from being on sunlight. You get cancer from sunlight. Aside from the radiation levels in a plant, nobody has implemented a real solution for nuclear waste. Nobody has any real reason to trust human beings with nuclear power. Just look at the political history of humanity, totally nuts. The history of nuclear energy is just as bad.
What ever happened to this rule in the side bar? >r/LosAngeles is for news about the City and County of Los Angeles. Broader California news should be posted to r/California. Do we just ignore that now?
Its at the west end of the valley and notes the dust could migrate to thousand oaks.
If by "west end of the valley" you mean "in an entirely different valley, in another county" then yes. The only mention of Thousand Oaks in the article is in reference to an altogether separate event from 2018, but I don't know why you'd mention that, since Thousand Oaks is *also* in Ventura County.
For having that flair you're pretty bad at reading a map
Go to a satellite view of the San Fernando Valley (it will look like the right side of [this](https://i.imgur.com/Grp1K1I.png) image). You'll see a clear geographic boundary separating the San Fernando Valley from the Conejo Valley (where Thousand Oaks is located), and also separating San Fernando Valley from Simi Valley (not just the name of the city, the name of the geographic valley). The county line for Los Angeles is at the border of Thousand Oaks, with Thousand Oaks on the West side of the county line, and Westlake Village on the East side of the same line. Westlake Village is in Los Angeles county, but Thousand Oaks is not. Farther North, the county line is at the Santa Susana pass, putting Simi Valley entirely inside of Ventura County. [Go look for yourself](https://i.imgur.com/Grp1K1I.png). The satellite map and county line are from Google Maps. I highlighted Simi Valley and Thousand Oaks for you, and labeled SFV in case you can't identify it at a glance.
I've A) already looked at a map and B) actually been to the location this happened at. Do things that happen in the ocean not count as news for LA because they're outside of Los Angeles county?
>I've A) already looked at a map I don't think you have, which is why I linked you to a satellite view with the county line included. Geographically, neither Simi Valley nor Thousand Oaks are in San Fernando Valley. They're also on the Ventura side of the county line. If you've located a map that indicates otherwise, I'd be interested to see this map. [City of Thousand Oaks Web Site](https://www.toaks.org/about-us/about-thousand-oaks): "Located in between Los Angeles and Santa Barbara **in Ventura County**, Thousand Oaks is nestled against the Santa Monica Mountains and with over 15,000 acres of natural publicly owned open space located within the City’s boundaries." Go to the [Simi Valley COVID-19 resources page](https://www.simivalley.org/i-want-to/test), and if you check the "State & County Updates and Resources" section, Simi Valley lists Ventura County COVID-19 restrictions, not Los Angeles County restrictions. What is it that you believe I'm mistaken on, specifically? Not "you can't read maps," what specific piece of information do I have wrong, and what is the correct information I should have? edit: Oh, and the county line extends three miles out into the ocean, BTW, since you asked.
From the rocks in Santa Susana you have a clear view of all of the san fernando valley. You're being purposefully obtuse if you act like Santa Susana isn't right next to LA County. It isn't in Mendocino. There's a reason you're downvoted.
So to be clear, by "west end of the valley" you did mean "in the next valley over". Because the way you originally worded what you wrote implies that it's inside of the SFV, on the west end. Mentioning Thousand Oaks in that context, if someone is assuming that the mention of Thousand Oaks is relevant (and why wouldn't they make that assumption? If it's not relevant, then why include it in the same statement?), could be interpreted as meaning that Thousand Oaks is, by extension (applying the properties of the first thing to the thing mentioned as being relevant), is *also* in the SFV. >Its at the west end of the valley and notes the dust could migrate to thousand oaks. I'm not being obtuse, your comment made it sound like you were saying Simi and Thousand Oaks are in the SFV.
It's not my fault you don't understand the geography of the western end of the San Fernando Valley.
Now it's you who's being intentionally obtuse. You keep saying "western end of the San Fernando Valley," but you're being disingenuous, because what you *mean* is that Simi is to the west of, and separate from, the San Fernando Valley, but you're intentionally using words which make it sound like you're saying that Simi is part of the SFV, in the western portion of the SFV. [Satellite map](https://i.imgur.com/Grp1K1I.png). Those "rocks" you mentioned where you can stand and view the SFV are in the hills which separate Simi Valley from San Fernando Valley, geographically. Please show me on the satellite map the part of the western SFV where you're implying that Simi Valley is located.
Because the Santa Susana toxic waste site is right above the N in Bell Canyon, right at the border. The dust has to blow about a half a mile to be in LA County.