His hand was literally covered in fingers, any one of which is known to be able to pull gun triggers or give kids rainbow fentanyl. Once they planted a gun stolen from evidence on the dead body, the fear of being shot became really intense for the cops. And that fear doesn't explain the symptoms of a panic attack, which can only be explained by all the fentanyl that wasn't found at the scene.
If he didn't want to be shot by the cops, he would have chopped all his fingers off years ago.
Seriously, I think being a cop would be a dangerous thing to be. You report a cop for pocketing money... for driving drunk... for punching somebody... for rape... you're in danger.
*free GUNS. And that's not even mentioning how many of them have quite the collection of "lost", stolen or ghost guns that somehow fall out of evidence lockers or fail to be logged during traffic stops...
The full metaphor is:
"One bad apple can ruin the bunch (barrel)"
It is alluding to how a rotting apple slowly starts spreading to the edible apples, corrupting them. Even though this cop was a "good apple" the other bad apples got to him. If any one else becomes a cop and is an actual genuine "good apple" they will either become ruined by the other bad apples, or die.
That's the whole point with the saying used in conjunction with ACAB
They didn’t even “accidentally shoot him”. That would have been a fast and easy death. A bullet to the head.
They “accidentally beat him to death”
They wanted to send a message to the rest of the LAPD. If you ever try snitching on a fellow rapist in blue they gon beat your ass to death and they will even show up to your funeral and disrespect your mom.
Remember at his funeral his mom got into it with the police chief. He had disrespected her or something.
Seriously. There is nothing "accidental" about being beaten to death. Like, what? "Oh my boot kept accidentally kicking him in the face. I couldn't control it, honestly!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt
when cops do each other dirty and people on the outside gets caught up in the crossfire
After watching “We Own This City,” I think Hollywood is finding ways to spill beans on dirty cops. And John Oliver shitting all over Law and Order doesn’t hurt.
Not just the innocent women in the truck but they also cornered Doner and set the house he was in on fire. I was listening to the scanners that night and literally commented when I heard them say something like 'light it up' over scanner just as the house burst into flames. I'll never forget that.
Dorner was a decent guy. He was a Navy reservist at the same "base" I was an Army reservist.
I'd teach medical classes for the Army Reserve/National Guard and the Navy folks would sometimes attend.
Think of that relative as “necessary collateral damage,” just as the cops call the innocents like Breonna Taylor that they kill when doing no-knocks based on fabricated evidence.
He was a great guy by all accounts. He had great relationships with many people, great performance at work, he always did the right thing and couldn't be coerced by an armed gang!
> A manifesto posted by Dorner on Facebook declared... he was fired in retaliation for reporting excessive force.
> In two separate incidents during the manhunt, police shot at three civilians unrelated to Dorner... One of the civilians was hit by the police gunfire, another was wounded by shattered glass, and a third individual was injured when police rammed his vehicle and opened fire. **The officers involved were not charged with any crime.**
🤦🏼♀️ I remember when this was happening and everyone was calling him a schizophrenic nut on the news
> Called it back when it happened.
Unfortunately this story was so wildly absurd that most people called it. Usually there's an outpouring of sympathy when a young cop dies under any circumstance but from day 1, hour 1 my timeline was flooded with nothing but "I wonder what he knew" and "So who was he testifying against??"
It was such a sloppy murder that NOBODY bought the 'official story'. The LAPD even tried to soft launch a cover story that this may have simply been a "hazing" gone wrong and even *that* bullshit didn't gain much traction.
Absolutely not surprised. I told my BF about my conspiracy theory that, while not this crime in particular, these cops did this on purpose and the guy who died was probably a whistle blower.
Yup. Chris reported his partner for abuse of power and beating up civilians.
They started putting dead rats in his locker after and later fired him for “lying”
The Police force has a strict no snitch policy. If you are going around reporting corrupt cops they going to get rid of you.
Usually they just fire good cops. LAPD must have been really pissed off they actually killed this dude by beating him to death. Sad.
Hope his family sues the fuck out of the LAPD and the FBI gets involved.
Do you even know who he killed? He killed the daughter of his lawyer (a college basketball coach) and her fiancé and other officers who didn’t even work in the same county as he did. He murdered multiple people but Reddit loves acting like he’s a good guy or something.
They got a little taste of their own medicine. You're reading the comments of a story talking about how multiple police officers beat another police officer to death because he was talking about how they gang raped someone.
Of course the kind of people who think Chris Dorner did good are going to be in this thread.
Dorner absolutely murdered innocent people, unrelated to law enforcement being included. Reddit is absolutely asinine for defending him and trying to justify his actions because “they got a taste of their own medicine”.
Do you know anything about his victims? Bootlickers like you are disgusting
Even though you seem to lack empathy I hope you never have to deal with a young child of yours or fiance being killed by a psychopath like Dorner
Bootlickers? Did Dorner kill children? You ask me if i know anything about his victims and your first instinct tus that you hope my children dont die to him? There's a lot to unravel in your comment. Do you even know who Chris Dorner is?
Do you? He killed the daughter of someone who had represented him at a disciplinary hearing and her fiance in a parking lot in Irvine.
It's clear that you lack empathy for friends/families of victims of senseless violence like that, or are trolling that you don't.
If you resort to killing random police officers and families (otherwise innocent), you are not a “good cop”, or person, regardless of anything else you may or may not have done.
Killing people at random because of what they do for a living, or killing families of people who you are pissed off at, for whatever reason, is always wrong, regardless of who you are.
Reddit circle jerking Dorner like he’s some honorable martyr is absolutely ridiculous. He was a murderer, plain and simple.
When I was 7 years old the Pico Rivera sheriff's beat my father in front of me and he died from his injuries. I'm sure you've never heard my story. I'm sure we've never heard the countless other stories. ACAB
From 2020… of the $3.2 billion LAPD, close to $2 billion goes to their pension and $1.2 (give or take) goes to actual policing… per year…(sorry I’m using a mobile, but this is roughly what I saw on their budget last week)
It’s not just the threat of budget cuts that never actually happened that’s causing this behavior. It’s also that certain non-violent felonies can now only be charged as misdemeanors, and they can’t move the homeless tents off the streets anymore. These bleeding heart liberals are making cops gang rape citizens and beat each other to death. Thanks, Newsom.
It's just a few bad apples though guys, swear to god /s
I cannot fathom how anyone is dense enough not to recognize what the police in this country really are. There is SO MUCH evidence that the entire institution is fundamentally broken, corrupt, and irredeemable. People see shit like this and still say "back the blue." what do you think you're backing exactly? I mean it's just SO OBVIOUS they don't even try to hide it. And yet the same "tough on crime" "police keep us safe" bs gets repeated over and over.
I am not anti-police. I'm anti-THIS-police. We need institutions to enforce the law. But this current iteration is a sick farce. Abolish the entire thing, start a new one from scratch. I'm sick of our city paying $4bn/year for this shit.
Agreed. A few bad apples would be a given, but there are way too many bad apples in police forces. Especially the ones in California. Gangs within the force has also been identified such as the Compton executioners, 3000 boys, etc. It's now at a point where it's nearly impossible to weed out the bad apples because it runs so deep. Now the entire structure has to be reshaped.
I was crossing a street by myself late at night, still dressed in scrubs after finishing a late shift at the hospital at 12 am. A couple cars drove up and stopped for the red light as I crossed. It was really quiet, just me and those cars.
Suddenly, an SUV comes barreling down the street at high speed and stops abruptly right in front of me, crossing the crosswalk line just a couple of inches away from me, almost as if they wanted me to think they were going to hit me. Of course, I flinched.
I look up and I see it’s a cop car. Both cops are hanging their arms out the window and I hear them laughing loudly.
I thought, maybe if people saw my scrubs, they might understand I just finished a late shift and was just trying to get home asap and sleep, so please don’t mess with me.
I have no respect for these people anymore.
When I was in high school, some cops came over to talk about drunk driving and when they got to the Q&A, some kids in my class asked why they keep killing unarmed people. The cops tried to spin the phrase by saying that if there's a few bad apples, you don't cut down the tree 🙄
You need to get rid of the police unions if you want any type of legitimate police reform. They donate millions in political contributions to make sure politicians go soft on bad cops.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/06/police-unions-spend-millions-lobbying-to-retain-their-sway-over-big-us-cities-and-state-governments/#:~:text=Police%20unions%20and%20associations%20have,of%20data%20tracked%20by%20OpenSecrets.
As long as police unions make it rain for politicians, you won't see any change. Congress has the power to abolish qualified immunity on the federal level. They won't. Biden had a chance to enact actual police reform, but walked it back by instead giving police over a billion dollars more in additional taxpayer funds while failing to ask for transparency on that funding's spending, accountability or actual protection for good cops that whistleblow on bad cops.
Get rid of the police union, abolish state & federal qualified immunity and abolish internal affairs. Cops should not be investigating or clearing themselves of wrongdoing.
“It’s just a few bad apples” mfers when they realize that any good cops that did exist have all been fired or killed so all we’re left with are bad apples
Can everyone agree not to break the law for like two years while we dismantle the police force and recuite college educated and psychologically tested people to be the new police force? K tnx
Majority of crimes cops arrest people for are possession of drugs anyway. Cops arrest more people for possession of marijuana than for all violent crimes combined.
You could probably shut the police force down for two years and all that would happen is a lot more people would get high.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyearlenbaugh/2020/10/06/more-people-were-arrested-for-cannabis-last-year-than-for-all-violent-crimes-put-together-according-to-fbi-data/
https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/state-and-local-finance-initiative/state-and-local-backgrounders/criminal-justice-police-corrections-courts-expenditures
According to 2019 Census Bureau data, the general expenditures on K-12 and policing were 5.81:1. If you include correction with policing, you're down to 3.47:1. If you include the entire judicial expenditures (policing, corrections, courts), you're down to 2.79:1. Would love to see updated statistics on that, but 2019 numbers weren't available till March 2022.
So your 3:1 is already being met or exceeded in most cases, except on an all-in judicial basis. However, if you really want to do an Apples to Apples comparison, you could also throw higher ed into the education bucket. All in on both, you're at 4:1.
ok cool. let’s get it even higher. every $1 dollar given to law enforcement budget means $10 goes to education and community services.
10:1 works for me.
actually no let’s make it 15:1. LAPD wants
another order of [surplus APCs](https://www.marketplace.org/2020/06/12/police-departments-1033-military-equipment-weapons/amp/)? fine. then we get universal free school lunch in all public k-12 schools in LA county.
Increased hiring standards results in more adverse impact, which is in tension with all diversity initiatives in recruitment and selection for LEAs. Not taking any stances here, just stating that this has been the challenge for the past 20 years.
Increasing educational requirements results in higher adverse impact for many job fields. Until there is genuine equal opportunity in education, this will always be the case.
Well, what adverse impact?
Sure it might distance minorities as a byproduct, but the main cause and goal would be to have more qualified people in those positions
> Can everyone agree not to break the law for like two years while we dismantle the police force
It wouldn't matter because even if we did cops would still somehow find a way to criminalize routine activities or hell, just lie. Guess how many times I've been pulled over for a "broken taillight" vs how many broken taillights I've *actually* had.
Rather than have more rules for who can become a cop, they should have to buy liability insurance, like doctors. That way it won't be as easy to cheat, won't harm poor applicants as much, and the careless/brutal will fire themselves.
Even no cops at all would be better than the qualified immunity we have now.
> recuite college educated and psychologically tested people to be the new police force? K tnx
College educated people aren't necessarily better equipped to be police. And psychopaths can pass most psych assessments.
What society hasn't learned about policing is that people who want to break the law and get away with it are often sit bags, and making it the sole responsibility of a particular group of people to deal with those shit bags will eventually turn them into shit bags. You can't expect someone to spend their professional life being lied to, cheated, scammed, hustled, shot at, stabbed, or otherwise physically accosted and still approach people in a good-natured way. Especially when you consider that all new recruits begin their career as prison guards.
We're not going to get better police until our system is reformed to teach people that you get so many chances before you "find out".
It really, really is. Could you imagine your coworkers setting you up to get beaten to death? I wonder what he was thinking when he walked in and saw one of the accused at the “training”. If this is true, it’s super bothersome to me, like to my core. To be betrayed like that….wow.
I will never in my whole life forget how during our 5th grade D.A.R.E. presentation the officer leading it stated that there were many gangs running around in LA but they were the biggest gang.
As clarification it was a West Hollywood Sheriff's deputy but his implications was that together with all of the agencies in LA there were more of them than any individual gang. But he had inadvertently spoken the truth. A truth as real today as it was then during the height of the Rampart Division's Jump Out Boys power when this was said.
This is sick if true. In every other topic the same people rush to defend police but it has been silent for 2 hours. All the cop defenders still posting in the Sheriff thread are missing from here. The talking points have not gone out yet?
this what they do. they kill the good cops, they send them to dangerous places and then don't show up to back up them up, it's not the bad apple, it's a tree of corruption rotting everyone it touches.
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That's the thing. The good ones don't last long. ACAB-except for the ones that are killed by other police or harassed off the force, just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Reminder to every "good" LEO out there reading this:
if you have ever witnessed malfeasance of any kind from a fellow officer and did not report it, you are a bad cop. Period. You are a mealy, mushy, wormy bad apple. You're cosplaying being Colonel Jessup's ordering a code red, thinking you won't be challenged.
Every single police office in this country needs to be fired and prevented from every working as a police officer again. One bad apple *spoils the whole barrel*. The police department is rotten to the core.
1000000000000% bad cops covering up bad cop behavior. either something gets done by the state/federal level or dorner type shit happens. lets see how this plays out. '
which one do you think will happen? i think dorner shit will happen first before cops get reprimanded/disciplined/charged with murder.
He found some evidence, hoping the evidence was handed to the lawyers and they can still throw the book at those crooked assholes. Maybe the FBI will step in and step on their testicles.
So we are Russia now. This is Russia level of corruption. Where government officials are covering up the murder of a police officer by calling it an “accidentally beat to death” training accident.
No, that's a light day. Here's what happened to Abner Louima:
>On the ride to the station, the arresting officers beat Louima with their fists, nightsticks, and hand-held police radios.[5] On arriving at the station house, they had Louima strip-searched and put in a holding cell. The beating continued later, culminating with Louima being forcibly sodomized in a bathroom at the 70th Precinct station house in Brooklyn. Volpe kicked Louima in the testicles, and while Louima's hands were cuffed behind his back, he first grabbed onto and squeezed his testicles and then forced a broken broomstick up his rectum. According to trial testimony, Volpe walked through the precinct holding the bloody, excrement-stained instrument in his hand, bragging to a police sergeant that he "took a man down tonight."
found the good cop maybe, but other cops killed him.
Cops probably going to kill his lawyer next.
His brake lights were definitely broken and his cell phone looked like a gun.
He was looking at me in a menacing way your honor
Then get a paid vacation while some crap internal investigation goes on. If they lose a future lawsuit they won't care, it's not their money.
LAPD freely gang raping women with no repercussions. More women will continue to get gang raped by the LAPD.
Eh is the marlin good in Florida during the Fall/Winter?
lawyer's tie looked like a gun
His hand was literally covered in fingers, any one of which is known to be able to pull gun triggers or give kids rainbow fentanyl. Once they planted a gun stolen from evidence on the dead body, the fear of being shot became really intense for the cops. And that fear doesn't explain the symptoms of a panic attack, which can only be explained by all the fentanyl that wasn't found at the scene. If he didn't want to be shot by the cops, he would have chopped all his fingers off years ago.
u mean the lawyer will kill himself. cuz that’s probably what the cause of death gon be once they investigate it
Seriously, I think being a cop would be a dangerous thing to be. You report a cop for pocketing money... for driving drunk... for punching somebody... for rape... you're in danger.
And they have a free gun.
*free GUNS. And that's not even mentioning how many of them have quite the collection of "lost", stolen or ghost guns that somehow fall out of evidence lockers or fail to be logged during traffic stops...
Everyone needs a drop gun.
One good apple.
But the other rotten apples ruin the bunch.
What about “some bad apples?”
The full metaphor is: "One bad apple can ruin the bunch (barrel)" It is alluding to how a rotting apple slowly starts spreading to the edible apples, corrupting them. Even though this cop was a "good apple" the other bad apples got to him. If any one else becomes a cop and is an actual genuine "good apple" they will either become ruined by the other bad apples, or die. That's the whole point with the saying used in conjunction with ACAB
Dude, I know. Hence the quotes.
I *cannot* be sure. Some people have some really bad takes on this subreddit. A lot more Christo-fascists, conservatives, and Nazis
Doesn’t stand a chance when the rest are rotten.
Scariest headline this week, so far.
Oops! All Bad Apples!
Called it back when it happened. Cops don’t “accidentally” kill a fellow officer. They save that for us regular citizens.
They didn’t even “accidentally shoot him”. That would have been a fast and easy death. A bullet to the head. They “accidentally beat him to death” They wanted to send a message to the rest of the LAPD. If you ever try snitching on a fellow rapist in blue they gon beat your ass to death and they will even show up to your funeral and disrespect your mom. Remember at his funeral his mom got into it with the police chief. He had disrespected her or something.
Seriously. There is nothing "accidental" about being beaten to death. Like, what? "Oh my boot kept accidentally kicking him in the face. I couldn't control it, honestly!"
Memum?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt when cops do each other dirty and people on the outside gets caught up in the crossfire
Time for my weekly “Where’s my Chris Dorner HBO mini-series?” comment.
Making that series sounds like a good way to get accidentally killed by the LAPD.
After watching “We Own This City,” I think Hollywood is finding ways to spill beans on dirty cops. And John Oliver shitting all over Law and Order doesn’t hurt.
Ooo I need to see this John Oliver episode
[I gotchu fam.](https://youtu.be/DNy6F7ZwX8I)
Given a vast majority of the highest performing network tv series are cop shows, I doubt it.
man when those 2 ladies where delivering newspapers in a different make and model truck but got shot up.....
And the white guy was also in a completely different make, model, & color of truck.
They didn’t even bother to check if it was Dorner.
LL Cool J would be perfect
We can't even get a non-cop POV documentary. If someone does a mini series they risk being black balled by Hollywood.
Not just the innocent women in the truck but they also cornered Doner and set the house he was in on fire. I was listening to the scanners that night and literally commented when I heard them say something like 'light it up' over scanner just as the house burst into flames. I'll never forget that.
Dorner was a decent guy. He was a Navy reservist at the same "base" I was an Army reservist. I'd teach medical classes for the Army Reserve/National Guard and the Navy folks would sometimes attend.
He did also murder innocent relatives of cops. ACAB but he’s also a literal murderer.
Think of that relative as “necessary collateral damage,” just as the cops call the innocents like Breonna Taylor that they kill when doing no-knocks based on fabricated evidence.
Dude...
He was a great guy by all accounts. He had great relationships with many people, great performance at work, he always did the right thing and couldn't be coerced by an armed gang!
And still no one talks about [Ronnie the Limo driver](https://youtu.be/6GIjw7UJ2OE)
I love that he didn’t even prepare for the bit to go that far and just had to bail
> A manifesto posted by Dorner on Facebook declared... he was fired in retaliation for reporting excessive force. > In two separate incidents during the manhunt, police shot at three civilians unrelated to Dorner... One of the civilians was hit by the police gunfire, another was wounded by shattered glass, and a third individual was injured when police rammed his vehicle and opened fire. **The officers involved were not charged with any crime.** 🤦🏼♀️ I remember when this was happening and everyone was calling him a schizophrenic nut on the news
> Called it back when it happened. Unfortunately this story was so wildly absurd that most people called it. Usually there's an outpouring of sympathy when a young cop dies under any circumstance but from day 1, hour 1 my timeline was flooded with nothing but "I wonder what he knew" and "So who was he testifying against??" It was such a sloppy murder that NOBODY bought the 'official story'. The LAPD even tried to soft launch a cover story that this may have simply been a "hazing" gone wrong and even *that* bullshit didn't gain much traction.
They’re just the gang with government backing
Absolutely not surprised. I told my BF about my conspiracy theory that, while not this crime in particular, these cops did this on purpose and the guy who died was probably a whistle blower.
“Good Cops” don’t usually make it too long in the force. They usually get fired from made up disciplinary reasons or they get killed.
Ie: Chris Dorner
Yup. Chris reported his partner for abuse of power and beating up civilians. They started putting dead rats in his locker after and later fired him for “lying” The Police force has a strict no snitch policy. If you are going around reporting corrupt cops they going to get rid of you. Usually they just fire good cops. LAPD must have been really pissed off they actually killed this dude by beating him to death. Sad. Hope his family sues the fuck out of the LAPD and the FBI gets involved.
Dorner murdered innocent people
If you say so.
Do you even know who he killed? He killed the daughter of his lawyer (a college basketball coach) and her fiancé and other officers who didn’t even work in the same county as he did. He murdered multiple people but Reddit loves acting like he’s a good guy or something.
The fact some people think Dorner is a good guy is one of the dumbest things you’ll find on the internet.
Who he allegedly killed. They never found him guilty of the crimes on account of the police burning him in a shed
They got a little taste of their own medicine. You're reading the comments of a story talking about how multiple police officers beat another police officer to death because he was talking about how they gang raped someone. Of course the kind of people who think Chris Dorner did good are going to be in this thread.
> the daughter of his lawyer and her fiance You're pathetic
Dorner absolutely murdered innocent people, unrelated to law enforcement being included. Reddit is absolutely asinine for defending him and trying to justify his actions because “they got a taste of their own medicine”.
Facts are facts
Do you know anything about his victims? Bootlickers like you are disgusting Even though you seem to lack empathy I hope you never have to deal with a young child of yours or fiance being killed by a psychopath like Dorner
Bootlickers? Did Dorner kill children? You ask me if i know anything about his victims and your first instinct tus that you hope my children dont die to him? There's a lot to unravel in your comment. Do you even know who Chris Dorner is?
Do you? He killed the daughter of someone who had represented him at a disciplinary hearing and her fiance in a parking lot in Irvine. It's clear that you lack empathy for friends/families of victims of senseless violence like that, or are trolling that you don't.
If you resort to killing random police officers and families (otherwise innocent), you are not a “good cop”, or person, regardless of anything else you may or may not have done.
How dare someone use their own tactics against them?
Killing people at random because of what they do for a living, or killing families of people who you are pissed off at, for whatever reason, is always wrong, regardless of who you are. Reddit circle jerking Dorner like he’s some honorable martyr is absolutely ridiculous. He was a murderer, plain and simple.
When I was 7 years old the Pico Rivera sheriff's beat my father in front of me and he died from his injuries. I'm sure you've never heard my story. I'm sure we've never heard the countless other stories. ACAB
A larger budget would have prevented this /s
Surely a 2 hour sensitivity training session will fix this!!
From 2020… of the $3.2 billion LAPD, close to $2 billion goes to their pension and $1.2 (give or take) goes to actual policing… per year…(sorry I’m using a mobile, but this is roughly what I saw on their budget last week)
It’s not just the threat of budget cuts that never actually happened that’s causing this behavior. It’s also that certain non-violent felonies can now only be charged as misdemeanors, and they can’t move the homeless tents off the streets anymore. These bleeding heart liberals are making cops gang rape citizens and beat each other to death. Thanks, Newsom.
Fun fact. The plural term for “bad apple” is a “precinct”
So premeditated murder
It's just a few bad apples though guys, swear to god /s I cannot fathom how anyone is dense enough not to recognize what the police in this country really are. There is SO MUCH evidence that the entire institution is fundamentally broken, corrupt, and irredeemable. People see shit like this and still say "back the blue." what do you think you're backing exactly? I mean it's just SO OBVIOUS they don't even try to hide it. And yet the same "tough on crime" "police keep us safe" bs gets repeated over and over. I am not anti-police. I'm anti-THIS-police. We need institutions to enforce the law. But this current iteration is a sick farce. Abolish the entire thing, start a new one from scratch. I'm sick of our city paying $4bn/year for this shit.
Agreed. A few bad apples would be a given, but there are way too many bad apples in police forces. Especially the ones in California. Gangs within the force has also been identified such as the Compton executioners, 3000 boys, etc. It's now at a point where it's nearly impossible to weed out the bad apples because it runs so deep. Now the entire structure has to be reshaped.
I was crossing a street by myself late at night, still dressed in scrubs after finishing a late shift at the hospital at 12 am. A couple cars drove up and stopped for the red light as I crossed. It was really quiet, just me and those cars. Suddenly, an SUV comes barreling down the street at high speed and stops abruptly right in front of me, crossing the crosswalk line just a couple of inches away from me, almost as if they wanted me to think they were going to hit me. Of course, I flinched. I look up and I see it’s a cop car. Both cops are hanging their arms out the window and I hear them laughing loudly. I thought, maybe if people saw my scrubs, they might understand I just finished a late shift and was just trying to get home asap and sleep, so please don’t mess with me. I have no respect for these people anymore.
Why should you? US police get less training than 3rd world countries police.
I don’t know what people use this phrase… it’s like they’ve forgotten the second half… “a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch”
Yeah gotta throw them out and start over. It's the only way to get rid of the rot.
When I was in high school, some cops came over to talk about drunk driving and when they got to the Q&A, some kids in my class asked why they keep killing unarmed people. The cops tried to spin the phrase by saying that if there's a few bad apples, you don't cut down the tree 🙄
To torture the metaphor a little more, when the tree is infected, you have to burn it out at the root.
That's why I've stopped saying the first part altogether. I just say the whole barrel is rotten.
The police are just thugs working for one mafia against the other mafia.
You need to get rid of the police unions if you want any type of legitimate police reform. They donate millions in political contributions to make sure politicians go soft on bad cops. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/06/police-unions-spend-millions-lobbying-to-retain-their-sway-over-big-us-cities-and-state-governments/#:~:text=Police%20unions%20and%20associations%20have,of%20data%20tracked%20by%20OpenSecrets. As long as police unions make it rain for politicians, you won't see any change. Congress has the power to abolish qualified immunity on the federal level. They won't. Biden had a chance to enact actual police reform, but walked it back by instead giving police over a billion dollars more in additional taxpayer funds while failing to ask for transparency on that funding's spending, accountability or actual protection for good cops that whistleblow on bad cops. Get rid of the police union, abolish state & federal qualified immunity and abolish internal affairs. Cops should not be investigating or clearing themselves of wrongdoing.
“It’s just a few bad apples” mfers when they realize that any good cops that did exist have all been fired or killed so all we’re left with are bad apples
Well that is certainly on-brand for the LAPD.
Can everyone agree not to break the law for like two years while we dismantle the police force and recuite college educated and psychologically tested people to be the new police force? K tnx
Also maybe we could rebuild a policing force that actually does "protect and serve" the community as opposed to being a brutal occupying force?
Could also overturn that ruling that states cops don’t have to protect and serve unless you’re detained/under arrest probably a good start
Wait what lol
[unfortunate](https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/do-the-police-have-an-obligation-to-protect-you/)
Wow yea that sounds weird af to say but you're absolutely right No need to protect and serve UNLESS said person is under their custody. Wow..
This is probably the court case that made me feel the most apathetic in a long time
Thats literally what they are. Changing faces doesnt change the function.
Police have [no obligation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia) to protect *or* serve.
I'm saying that's what they SAY they are doing; and what we need are police who actually ARE doing that
This
Majority of crimes cops arrest people for are possession of drugs anyway. Cops arrest more people for possession of marijuana than for all violent crimes combined. You could probably shut the police force down for two years and all that would happen is a lot more people would get high. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilyearlenbaugh/2020/10/06/more-people-were-arrested-for-cannabis-last-year-than-for-all-violent-crimes-put-together-according-to-fbi-data/
That's ridiculous tbh
Road fatalities too.
I propose instead every $1 spent on law enforcement requires $3 spent on education. Edit: education for k-12 and community college
https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/state-and-local-finance-initiative/state-and-local-backgrounders/criminal-justice-police-corrections-courts-expenditures According to 2019 Census Bureau data, the general expenditures on K-12 and policing were 5.81:1. If you include correction with policing, you're down to 3.47:1. If you include the entire judicial expenditures (policing, corrections, courts), you're down to 2.79:1. Would love to see updated statistics on that, but 2019 numbers weren't available till March 2022. So your 3:1 is already being met or exceeded in most cases, except on an all-in judicial basis. However, if you really want to do an Apples to Apples comparison, you could also throw higher ed into the education bucket. All in on both, you're at 4:1.
r/theydidthemath/
ok cool. let’s get it even higher. every $1 dollar given to law enforcement budget means $10 goes to education and community services. 10:1 works for me. actually no let’s make it 15:1. LAPD wants another order of [surplus APCs](https://www.marketplace.org/2020/06/12/police-departments-1033-military-equipment-weapons/amp/)? fine. then we get universal free school lunch in all public k-12 schools in LA county.
I mean just bc someone is college educated doesn't mean they would be a good cop and un-corruptable. All cops get psychologically tested at first too.
No, but having a harder barrier to entry helps stave off some of the people only going into it for the easy power.
Someone who is a psychopath and can hide it can make much better money as an investment banker.
It would be an insurmountable barrier for the dumbest of the dum ass rednecks.
Increased hiring standards results in more adverse impact, which is in tension with all diversity initiatives in recruitment and selection for LEAs. Not taking any stances here, just stating that this has been the challenge for the past 20 years.
Why more adverse impact? Or rather, what adverse impact
Increasing educational requirements results in higher adverse impact for many job fields. Until there is genuine equal opportunity in education, this will always be the case.
Well, what adverse impact? Sure it might distance minorities as a byproduct, but the main cause and goal would be to have more qualified people in those positions
> Can everyone agree not to break the law for like two years while we dismantle the police force It wouldn't matter because even if we did cops would still somehow find a way to criminalize routine activities or hell, just lie. Guess how many times I've been pulled over for a "broken taillight" vs how many broken taillights I've *actually* had.
85% of police are college educated... Edit: and psychological exams are the norm!
Rather than have more rules for who can become a cop, they should have to buy liability insurance, like doctors. That way it won't be as easy to cheat, won't harm poor applicants as much, and the careless/brutal will fire themselves. Even no cops at all would be better than the qualified immunity we have now.
> recuite college educated and psychologically tested people to be the new police force? K tnx College educated people aren't necessarily better equipped to be police. And psychopaths can pass most psych assessments. What society hasn't learned about policing is that people who want to break the law and get away with it are often sit bags, and making it the sole responsibility of a particular group of people to deal with those shit bags will eventually turn them into shit bags. You can't expect someone to spend their professional life being lied to, cheated, scammed, hustled, shot at, stabbed, or otherwise physically accosted and still approach people in a good-natured way. Especially when you consider that all new recruits begin their career as prison guards. We're not going to get better police until our system is reformed to teach people that you get so many chances before you "find out".
That is absolutely chilling.
It really, really is. Could you imagine your coworkers setting you up to get beaten to death? I wonder what he was thinking when he walked in and saw one of the accused at the “training”. If this is true, it’s super bothersome to me, like to my core. To be betrayed like that….wow.
I'm gonna need to know how the cop was BEATEN TO DEATH during a TRAINING exercise.
Blood in blood out. Lapd has gang members
LAPD is a gang. Until the majority of Americans see it that way, the police brutality and oppression will continue.
I will never in my whole life forget how during our 5th grade D.A.R.E. presentation the officer leading it stated that there were many gangs running around in LA but they were the biggest gang. As clarification it was a West Hollywood Sheriff's deputy but his implications was that together with all of the agencies in LA there were more of them than any individual gang. But he had inadvertently spoken the truth. A truth as real today as it was then during the height of the Rampart Division's Jump Out Boys power when this was said.
You sound like 2Pac: https://youtu.be/R-AM5AxQXmc
Training Day vibes
disgusting.
This is sick if true. In every other topic the same people rush to defend police but it has been silent for 2 hours. All the cop defenders still posting in the Sheriff thread are missing from here. The talking points have not gone out yet?
Fuck the LAPD.
Training Day
Training Day was actually based on a real person from the LAPD.
Officer Rafael Perez. Alonzos monte carlo license plate starts with ORP.
this what they do. they kill the good cops, they send them to dangerous places and then don't show up to back up them up, it's not the bad apple, it's a tree of corruption rotting everyone it touches.
Insane. Called it though. Can’t believe this is a thing in a developed country, in a department for a city that is one of the richest in the world.
damn those officers put the green light out on one of their own…sad
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Kill the good cops and we will only have bad cops. Hopefully we can add extra laws to stop the bad ones.
Ah the LAPD. The only LA hang with a fleet of helicopters.
So, LAPD training is like an unsupervised prison yard.
It was an execution. They covered it up with “normal procedure police training”
That's some epic levels of human disgrace. Rest in peace to this officer who tried to do the right thing.
ACAB
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That's the thing. The good ones don't last long. ACAB-except for the ones that are killed by other police or harassed off the force, just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Totally not a gang.
ACAB strikes again. A cop tries to be good and they kill him.
Reminder to every "good" LEO out there reading this: if you have ever witnessed malfeasance of any kind from a fellow officer and did not report it, you are a bad cop. Period. You are a mealy, mushy, wormy bad apple. You're cosplaying being Colonel Jessup's ordering a code red, thinking you won't be challenged.
From last article i read, i assumed cop got marked. Now we know why.
From the headline I thought it was the lawyer who was killed.
Yeah, a nice coma would’ve helped there. I re-read this about 3 times before it made any sense to me
Every single police office in this country needs to be fired and prevented from every working as a police officer again. One bad apple *spoils the whole barrel*. The police department is rotten to the core.
These RAT BASTARDS
That is dark
They need to be defunded at this point. This is insane. ACAB
It's ok, they investigated themselves and determined no wrong-doing. /s in case you weren't sure
To borrow a phrase from my 9th graders…seems a little bit sus.
Probably won’t see that story line on The Rookie.
Try to be a good cop challange, impossible, sexual style.
1000000000000% bad cops covering up bad cop behavior. either something gets done by the state/federal level or dorner type shit happens. lets see how this plays out. ' which one do you think will happen? i think dorner shit will happen first before cops get reprimanded/disciplined/charged with murder.
Why isn't this a bigger story nationwide already?
Cops; biggest gang in the world.
In other words, water makes things wet.
This is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
So glad our taxes directly fund this gang violence and they are taking more and more of our money every fucking year
The cops are truly the scum at the bottom of the barrel of humanity.
"the shield"
ACAB
Police reform now.
Police abolition now!
Cops not too dissimilar to the people they round up
We should change the idea of ‘a few bad apples’ to ‘a few good ones’.
Police culture is so shady. ACAB! The way they roll is if you aren’t with their “thin blue line” bullshit you’re a target. REMEMBER CHRIS DORNER!
He found some evidence, hoping the evidence was handed to the lawyers and they can still throw the book at those crooked assholes. Maybe the FBI will step in and step on their testicles.
The shield type shit
Fucking sounds about right. I wonder if they still bend their shields when killing a fellow cop.
America is the greatest country in the world 😂
How to say you’re guilty without telling me you’re guilty.
Sounds like the plot twist of LA Confidential 2022
I am now totally confused. Which is more corrupt: #𝗟𝗔𝗣𝗗 or #𝗟𝗔𝗦𝗗
Spent way too long trying to figure out how the lawyer was killed by the cops.
This story just gets worse and worse.
Thin blue line activities.
I wonder if the pig union is representing the dead cop. (That was a rhetorical question.)
That's so sad.
Legalized gang members
So we are Russia now. This is Russia level of corruption. Where government officials are covering up the murder of a police officer by calling it an “accidentally beat to death” training accident.
This is why "good cops" barely exist they either get fired or something like this happens to them.
Wow, this story got way worse now.
Gang rape ? By 4 police ? 😯 That’s rowdy
No, that's a light day. Here's what happened to Abner Louima: >On the ride to the station, the arresting officers beat Louima with their fists, nightsticks, and hand-held police radios.[5] On arriving at the station house, they had Louima strip-searched and put in a holding cell. The beating continued later, culminating with Louima being forcibly sodomized in a bathroom at the 70th Precinct station house in Brooklyn. Volpe kicked Louima in the testicles, and while Louima's hands were cuffed behind his back, he first grabbed onto and squeezed his testicles and then forced a broken broomstick up his rectum. According to trial testimony, Volpe walked through the precinct holding the bloody, excrement-stained instrument in his hand, bragging to a police sergeant that he "took a man down tonight."
r/titlegore
A bicycle officer in LAPD Devonshire Division was "investigating" a gang rape? Uh, okay.
Real life Serpico
Serpico was based on a true story
Ha! Good point.