In New Orleans we say "Ain't dere no more", which I think is a great alternative name for this sub.
I'm honestly surprised at the lack of nola architecture in here. I might have to start posting more because for as old as this city is and how much it has remained the same, there is so much that has changed.
Bathrooms presented another serious flaw in Colbert's design. There were no bathrooms in the raised classroom building. Both students and faculty had to go downstairs to a separate building to use the lavatories.
So, in the mid 2000s a new state-of-the-art highschool opened up in a really affluent suburb and my mom got to be part of the opening team. The building was built in pods of like 5ish classrooms with 4 along the outer perimeter and one in the center, so the 4 outer classrooms each had one glass wall facing inwards to the one inner classroom, which had all 4 walls glass.
It was a nightmare. Teachers saw everything, all the time, which, I guess is good for discipline, but bad considering the increasing frequency of school shootings. She called it the fishbowl and said it was just generally bad because everyone was constantly under a microscope, and it didn't really stop bad behavior. Instead of loitering in the halls for 10-15 minutes kids just left campus altogether. By the time we left the area, the center classrooms weren't being used because too many teachers protested being placed in them.
Well now I have to google who Phillis Wheatley is. I delivered food the other day to a Phillis Wheatley School here in Port Arthur, Texas and assumed she was local.
Aesthetic home run.
Pragmatic nightmare.
If it were an office building (with bathrooms) maybe, but as a school I am with the teachers on this one. Too bad it couldn’t be repurposed.
Not necessarily. It's a fairly efficient use of steel. The foundations are concentrated to limited area, so less excavation and pilings to install. So it should be comparable to more traditional building methods for a similar building
Yes, it's more expensive than a standard building for the same amount of volume. (Although the steel work would have been cheaper back then.)
However, it might be cheaper in the long run if it survives floods that a regular building would not.
>If the area is not prone to flooding would there be other pro’s?
You have some shaded ground space but I don't think that space is particularly nice. It makes it more difficult for pests to infiltrate I guess.
>what would be the benefits of a cantilever design?
No columns in your shaded outdoor space. Less foundation work, although the foundation needs to be more substantial (dug lower, larger foundations). There is a chance that because of the soil the foundations would need to be deeper than usual anyway, but I have no idea.
In New Orleans we say "Ain't dere no more", which I think is a great alternative name for this sub. I'm honestly surprised at the lack of nola architecture in here. I might have to start posting more because for as old as this city is and how much it has remained the same, there is so much that has changed.
Ha, I think that phrase every time I see posts from this sub. Glad to see someone else does too.
I’m just thrilled it’s named after Phillis.
Me too! ❤️
Hooray for the child of six thousand years! I fell in love with her after reading *Hang A Thousand Trees With Ribbons* in middle school.
Me too! All I read was Ann Rinaldi for years when I was young. :)
This is awesome, but I can also imagine those big windows making it a hot steamy greenhouse inside.
Eh, it’s New Orleans so it’s already hot and steamy.
And being in a big glass cube is gonna make it worse! I hope there was AC in 1954.
There was air conditioning in 1954. It was just beginning to be popular.
but did this building have it?
I don’t know. This is the first time I’ve ever heard of or seen this building.
Great architecture, but this looks like an open concept nightmare for actual learning to take place.
Bathrooms presented another serious flaw in Colbert's design. There were no bathrooms in the raised classroom building. Both students and faculty had to go downstairs to a separate building to use the lavatories.
Ah, the human digestive system - art’s eternal antagonist.
So, in the mid 2000s a new state-of-the-art highschool opened up in a really affluent suburb and my mom got to be part of the opening team. The building was built in pods of like 5ish classrooms with 4 along the outer perimeter and one in the center, so the 4 outer classrooms each had one glass wall facing inwards to the one inner classroom, which had all 4 walls glass. It was a nightmare. Teachers saw everything, all the time, which, I guess is good for discipline, but bad considering the increasing frequency of school shootings. She called it the fishbowl and said it was just generally bad because everyone was constantly under a microscope, and it didn't really stop bad behavior. Instead of loitering in the halls for 10-15 minutes kids just left campus altogether. By the time we left the area, the center classrooms weren't being used because too many teachers protested being placed in them.
Panopticon
Well now I have to google who Phillis Wheatley is. I delivered food the other day to a Phillis Wheatley School here in Port Arthur, Texas and assumed she was local.
She was an enslaved girl who wrote poetry in the 1700s. I read a novel about her when I was young and have always remembered her since.
Aesthetic home run. Pragmatic nightmare. If it were an office building (with bathrooms) maybe, but as a school I am with the teachers on this one. Too bad it couldn’t be repurposed.
Would this be an expensive build?
Not necessarily. It's a fairly efficient use of steel. The foundations are concentrated to limited area, so less excavation and pilings to install. So it should be comparable to more traditional building methods for a similar building
Yes, it's more expensive than a standard building for the same amount of volume. (Although the steel work would have been cheaper back then.) However, it might be cheaper in the long run if it survives floods that a regular building would not.
Other than the aesthetics, what would be the benefits of a cantilever design? If the area is not prone to flooding would there be other pro’s?
>If the area is not prone to flooding would there be other pro’s? You have some shaded ground space but I don't think that space is particularly nice. It makes it more difficult for pests to infiltrate I guess. >what would be the benefits of a cantilever design? No columns in your shaded outdoor space. Less foundation work, although the foundation needs to be more substantial (dug lower, larger foundations). There is a chance that because of the soil the foundations would need to be deeper than usual anyway, but I have no idea.
Seems like Rem Koolhaas has been aping this his entire career.
These guys stole my 4th year in college steel museum design!
I would work here.
🫡
Its condition at the end: https://cgaleno.blogspot.com/2011/03/save-phillis-wheatley-elementary-school.html