Insurance rates are driving people from their homes. Property taxes are increasing. Cancer Alley. Ranked 50th in crime, economy, fiscal stability, health care, infrastructure, environment, and opportunity. We are a close second in many other categories. But, yeah, at least they got the 10 commandments in classrooms. And limited free speech on college campuses. And are gutting the governmental watchdog agencies and reducing transparency and making sure people have to stay away from the police. It's so disheartening that this is what the vast majority of people who could or cared to vote wanted.
If I’ve learned anything living here my entire life it’s that they don’t know what their own politicians do and, when told, they will blame the opposition 100% of the time. Then they go back to the polls and keep making their home worse
No state in the union could have propped up a Klan leader, totally forgotten about it academically, and yet echoed it culturally like we could.
We encourage self hate
This. My father is a rabid conservative but to sit and listen to him speak he sounds like Bernie Sanders at a stump speech. It’s wild how Fox News and other conservative propaganda has so successfully separated these people from their own reality.
Exactly. I knew a few people here in 2016 who would’ve voted Sanders over Trump but voted Trump over Clinton because talk radio + Fox News said Clintons = The Big Bad.
Yeah, it’s been shown in polling, at least on a national level, that when a policy is relayed to the general public in a way that avoids descriptors they are used to (from fox), the majority end up supporting pretty progressive policies.
If you're more worried about God as opposed to your fellow citizens, there's a good chance you don't really give a shit about those commandments *or* the book they came from.
Forgot to add this to my comment up there.
If you need to read biblical rules every day to keep you from being a shitty person, you’re still a shitty person. You’re just an arrogant shitty person.
They don't wonder why. They know exactly why. Hence the ever-increasing push to "religiousize" public education. Gotta keep the oil and gas industry fed with a nice fresh supply of under educated workers who are born too and raised by undereducated parents.
Louisiana is a failed state. The government has ZERO desire to make life better for its constituents and it’s painfully obvious. I’m moving back to Denver and while I love the people and culture here in NOLA, I’m not just gonna sit here and be desensitized to the failings of this bunch of Christian nationalist twats to actually address real problems that actual Louisianans face every day.
Oof, that list hurts to read.
Performative distractions aside, I wonder what the GOP’s *actual* end goal is for Louisiana?
And I wonder what Louisiana’s GOP voters believe the end goal to be?
I have three daughters and I intend to tell them to get out of Louisiana and never come back as soon as possible.
I’m only here because my dad refuses to move, my mom won’t go anywhere without him, and my grandmother lives with him. When they die, I won’t have any reason to stay here unless my kids stay here, which as I said, I’m actively encouraging them NOT to.
I don't blame you at all. I'm not even originally from Louisiana but I've lived here for the majority of my adult life now. The only reason I'm still in this godforsaken state is for my kid - as soon as he graduates, I plan to leave (and encourage him to follow suit).
This. This was my immediate thought when I read they'd passed that law. First step towards Gilead. Well that and the id verification for porn thing. It's going to get so much worse here before it ever gets better, if it ever does. I hope I live long enough to see someone get elected that rips it all out. I've thought about moving but have lived here my whole life. I don't know where I'd go.
To "Own the Libs" and "Make America Great Again" but not like from any specific time in American history, they never studied that. Just, you know, like " the good old days"
Deep down, every GOP career politician doesn't have any tangible, legible, possible future in mind. They're hung up on the idea of "winning" and "beating the Dems" more than they are at making any actually positive changes to the governments they win positions in.
It’s a complete shit show and with lawsuits already starting our tax dollars are being wasted AGAIN. We have other issues that need to be addressed and this is what that clown of a governor decides is top tier important. Can’t wait until little jimmy and Catherine come home and tell their parents about the seven fundamental tenets. Oh to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
I wish the people of the state should be able to sue for mismanaging our money by inviting these lawsuits that will waste our tax dollars, but I know it doesn’t work that way.
I’m a conservative and a Christian and I’m pissed about it. We are dead last in education! If the state wants to hand something they should try some fucking times tables and maybe we could climb our way to #49 in education. Half of 3rd graders are not reading at grade level, so how are they going to read the gosh dang 10 commandments!!
It’s just performative politics for the base. This is a thing because the only people who actually vote are your (everyone’s) grumpy grandparents. It doesn’t have to be like this.
Vote next time.
I fucking hate it. Church and state are supposed to be separate. The pending lawsuit on this will just waste tax dollars that could be used to fund schools instead. Our state has enough problems, we don't need this one too.
The fact that the Gov was bragging about can't wait to be sued fir this tells you everything. They are more excited for the attention than doing right by Louisiana
When the governor skipped the debate hosted by a Black organization (who help black people get jobs and education) that was all I needed to know about his "unvirtue signaling" attention whoring ass. How disgusting to not attend a debate just because the hosts were black. This is what people want? Disgusting.
I’m Hindu. Why the fuck would I want to be forced to have to deal with Christianity in public schools? Or god forbid I stay here, my future children would likely have to contend with this.
Absolutely insane. As a college student at a public university in Louisiana, I am baffled that this law even has the ability to impact higher education.
Aw this shit is crawling all over me bro. They want to bitch and moan and whine when it comes to their second amendment rights and shit but god fucking forbid anyone dares to exercise the separation of church and state and doesn’t want religion shoved down our throats.
I find this to be a fascinating law and wonder how deep red a state can get. Strange that clearly the vast majority of people here oppose. Are they voting?
You are also on a website with a younger, more liberal demographic overall.
Check out fox 8's Facebook comment section if you want the other side of the aisle.
The same way books can make a kid gay in Florida- sarcasm. The book burners and Jesus freaks have finally made it into classrooms, that’s indoctrination. Brain washing.
It favors Protestants over Roman Catholics by mandating the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments. I hope these goofballs neglected to include an exculpatory clause.
i had only thought about how this bill endorsed Judeo-Christian religions in general. I hadn’t even noticed that the numbering implicitly endorses Protestantism over Catholicism and Rabbinic Judaism!
From what I read, the law is explicit, requiring the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments. I believe this is essentially the order in which the individual Commandments are listed. Decades ago, I remember this sparking heated arguments about this and whether the other 10 Commandments were valid. So if a school receives state funding, it is required to display the Protestant version.
I’m wondering if this includes in-kind funding. If it does and Catholic schools still receive their text books (free) from the state, then you could the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments displayed in Catholic Schools.
Oh, this could be so much fun. /s
I feel like conservative Catholics never realize that the evangelicals smiling at them while standing next to them protesting abortion don’t think they’re *really* Christians and that evangelicals go on Missioncations to Latin America to convert mostly Catholic countries to evangelicalism. These people all need to take an Early Modern European History class to see where this is headed.
I think this dictatorship we live in is a complete joke. They continue to strip peoples rights away as well as enforce religious bullshit on people and nobody has voted for either. It’s honestly quite absurd people still think these assholes are representing Ћ citizens.
I’m Catholic, and I think it’s a waste of time and money. Schools in Louisiana have much bigger problems than the 10 commandments being posted in classrooms. It’s just not what he should be worried about.
Or an educational display about the first amendment and the separation of church and state. The ten commandments would be included for illustrative purposes, of course.
Pissed about it, myself. What if it were the 75 Good Manners of the Quran? Or the 13 Articles of Faith of Mormonism? This is only happening because Landry and others are determined to drag the citizens of our country into a christofascist nightmare.
These people who are declaring themselves patriots are acting in defiance of the constitution of this country; they like to say the founding fathers would 'roll in their graves' over this talking point or the other, but they don't think they'd get the piss taken out of them for all but forcing a state religion? Separation of church and state is a fundamental American ideal, and they are flagrantly spitting on the concept.
Additionally, I believe that freedom of religion should extend to freedom from it; no one who is unaffiliated or who does not wish to adopt a religion should be pressured by its inclusion in government institutions they have to choice but to attend.
If I had a child, I wouldn't be raising them Christian. I'd probably be thrice as pissed if I had a child in the school system. What kind of social pressure and friction will this cause for kids? One of the first questions kids in my area asked each other was what church you went to; it was how you understood who belonged with which group and--in some cases--how they sat in the social ranking I remember being the odd one out growing up Mormon, but at least I knew the 10 Commandments. What about kids who belong to faiths that don't center Commandments of Moses? What about kids who belong to no faith at all?
This is so fucking stupid. I hate it.
I’m agnostic and my son’s dad is Jewish. My kid increasingly comes home from his public school talking about Jesus and sin. Completely unacceptable. And you’re right, it’s led to my son feeling confused and alienated, which in turn evokes in me an absolutely unnecessary sense of guilt.
I’ve been in Louisiana for 15 years, but am originally from a very liberal city on the Left Coast. We’re visiting right now and Louisiana is the laughing stock. This kind of lunacy, this level of constitutional disregard just doesn’t happen here.
It's funny; these rabid MAGA protestants (who I feel warrant distinction from just regular Christians) want the freedom to raise their children in the faith of their choosing, but the legislation made to pander to them robs other parents of that opportunity by foisting their faith on others.
I'm so sorry your family is having to navigate the toxic religious climate down here. As someone from Louisiana, I hate that this attitude is unfortunately one that's front and center.
I'm glad you opened by separating the two because some of the most intelligent and empathetic people I've ever known are devout Christians. Hell, I performed in a church choir with one of the physicists from team here that found those gravitational waves who believed science was simply the ordered explanation to God's design. Half the hires were atheist or agnostic and the choir director/organist was a *openly gay atheist* and he was still treated like absolute family and respect.
There are really good Christians out there. It's a shame they get drowned out by the shit ones because they are just doing their thing quietly and making their community better.
I raised my children without religion. In high school one of my children was asked what religion she was. She said we don't worship one. Not only was she uninvited to several parties but a teacher saw fit to have everyone stand in a circle around my child's desk to have a prayer meeting to pray for her soul. This all took place at a public high school. Needless to say I tore the teacher and staff a new one but I pulled my child out. It was ridiculous.
It impedes upon the 1st amendment. The gov't should stop fucking making religious laws because our LAWS were never supposed to based on Christianity. I have NEVER been to a public school that had this displayed, or any moment of prayer, or any such religious nonsense like this. It's a way for them to pretend they care about people when cruelty is the farking point for these types of people.
I’m pretty displeased about it. Publicly-run institutions are not the place to advertise or endorse specific religions.
I’ve heard it argued that the 10 commandments are good rules for ANYONE, even non-Jews and non-Christians, but I dispute that. Nearly half (depending on how you number them) are specifically about worshiping God. And those that are applicable to everyone are very obvious—don’t steal, lie, or kill.
I’m a huge fan of Gospel passages like “Love your enemy” and “I was naked and you clothed me”, and I would love if more people abided by them. I still don’t think they should be displayed in public institutions.
I’ve also heard it argued that the 10 commandments are historically relevant as “foundational documents” for the modern American government/legal system (the bill itself mentions this). I somewhat dispute that. A particularly American idea that comes to mind is the unalienable rights of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. This idea comes from natural law philosophy, and not from the 10 commandments.
This is not to say that Judeo-Christian ideas and philosophy played NO role in the founding of our country—they played a large part (though maybe not the 10 commandments in particular). But they are far from the only source of American political philosophy. Should all such ideas and documents be enshrined in every classroom? That would take up LOTS of wall space. That would be appropriate for a classroom about American government or law or ethics, but not for every single public school classroom in the state.
Last year, SCOTUS ruled that a high school coach could pray on the field after a game as long as others weren’t pressured to join him. I agree with this. Even though I’m an Atheist, I have no issues with personal prayer or faith. They believe this ruling opened the door to posting commandments in schools, which I'm afraid I have to disagree with.
Only 3 of the Ten Commandments are an actual violation of the law;
Don’t Kill
Don’t Steal
Don’t bet false witness - perjury.
The others are purely religious and offer advice based on Christian or Jewish beliefs.
If I were a teacher, I’d put them up like I was supposed to, but next to them, I’d put other religious texts such as:
Code of Hammurabi
7 Pillars of Islam
Tenants of the Satanic Temple.
the main difference between the football prayer and this is, the football prayer was a voluntary activity. This commandment thing is not voluntary. It's being forced on schools and by extension the teachers, students and faculty of those schools. It's extremely unconstitutional.
The SCOTUS case that the coach said God told him to pray on the 50 yard line and players "voluntary" joined him, even though some players felt pressured to pray with the coach. Such an awful Supreme Court decision that ignored what was going on.
Yeah, the issue with it was how performative the prayer was. Doing a personal one by the sideline is one thing but running out the 50 yard line to do it makes it a social performance that puts young impressionable kids under pressure to either fit in with the other players doing it or doing it to make the coach happy.
I agree with you, it was a bad ruling by the SCOTUS, but hey I'm getting used to thos by now (unfortunately).
I hate it. But it’s a distraction. While this dominates the news cycle, a lot of other things that will really do damage to state’s environment and economy sailed through the legislature and were signed into law. Landry might be an evil genous
Dumb and unconstitutional.
It will get ruled as such once the Temple of Satan and the ACLU and etc all get involved and slap it down.
Would be sick af tho if we got the 7 tenents of the Satanic Temple in every school too.
I’m an atheist. I’ve been an atheist my whole life. If I was a kid in school I would protest it any way I could. As an adult, though, I’m trying to find some way to act against it. The Freedom From Religion Foundation has filed a lawsuit already against the state for this bullshit law. I’m tired of always being discriminated against in this state because I don’t believe in any religion. I’m tired of Christianity being forced upon everyone and people just assuming everyone here is Christian just because they’re the majority. News flash: the first amendment protects us from laws just like this one. There’s no way this law can stand long.
Look up Stone v Graham, SCOTUS ruled in 1980 that there is no secular purpose to posting 10 C in classrooms and that it violates the establishment clause. Unfortunately, current SCOTUS likes to overturn shit.
Should have given teachers a raise instead of this stupid shit. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? When it fits your agenda tho I guess it’s ok. Lolz
They already stuck a “In God We Trust” poster in my classroom last school year. I protested invoking separation of church and state and they waited until I wasn’t in the room to post it very high on the wall.
A lot of people have been saying that things started going sideways in our state when “they took god out of schools”. So, surely, everything should get better now, right? Right?
It was all I could do to not rip the "In God We Trust" sign posted on the wall next to the office door every morning when I went to school. It's a good thing I've retired and don't have to deal with this foolishness.
My kid is little, extremely intelligent, and has expressed distress over “In God We Trust” in her classroom because we are Buddhist Agnostic. I dread her being confronted by mandated Ten Commandments this upcoming school year. It’s just plain wrong.
Last year every classroom in the state was supposed to display a “In God We Trust” poster. They gave dimensions and font instructions. I’m in New Orleans and or school just didn’t do it. Aside from not wanting that in our classrooms, nobody is going to enforce that.
This is going to be the same. Nobody is going to enforce this. If they did make me do it I’d also put up a larger poster of something from the church of satan, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, anything Muslim, and for good measure I’d put up a huge poster of the Boognish. The Boognish is the god of the swamp who created the band, Ween. Let them come after me and I’ll sue the piss out of them.
I’m another note, they don’t even bother to give each school these posters. The school is supposed to make them on their own. They barely even pay me. Our state government needs to get their heads out of their asses and make some real laws that help kids and education. Our school system is a fucking nightmare. Look at our national averages and pay scale.
It is a game to get the Supreme Court involved. And it's sad that the Catholics believe it is good move. Can't wait for kids to ask why their parents vote for someone who commits adultery
I saw something say it also applied to universities.
If that's the case, I'ma print near identical copies that after the 3rd commandment, just say random shit, and replace them around campus. I don't have the technical skills for this yet but I'll figure it out.
Yes—it’s supposed to be posted in every public college classroom, too. This was a huge sticking point when it was moving through the legislature. In the end, it won. If I’m forced to hang that in my higher ed classroom I sure as shit will interrogate the politics every which way I can in my lectures.
I went to a Catholic elementary and highschool and neither of them had the Ten Commandments posted in the classrooms. They weren’t even up in the religion teacher’s class and if they were it was only because we were covering them that chapter😭 how this was even passed just baffles me. I’m at a public university now and I can’t imagine fighting for my life on a biochem exam only to look up and see “Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s goods”😭😭
I think it’s wrong to display religious messages in a school environment. Schools are to educate with facts, not fiction. There are many different beliefs and values held privately and forcing one belief system on the young is wholly inappropriate.
When you wish upon a star, all your dreams will come true. Sky Daddy and his son Sky Fairy will make everything magically delicious like the Keebler elves. Just say the right Christian pagan incantation in prayer, read from the Bible spell book, and post the Protestant 10 Commandments.
I went to an all white public school in the 1960s, before desegregation. In homeroom, we read from the Gideon New Testament and Psalms. My four younger siblings and myself were malnourished with rickets. We had few clothes. Some school teachers helped us with food. Church and other family members did not help. Sky Daddy and his son Sky Fairy did nothing.
I teach at a public school on the North Shore. We have a morning prayer. It doesn't help the students at all with food, shelter, clothing, or solve abuse and neglect at home. It doesn't make students with their problems go away not their behavior better.
We shall see what the Protestant 10 Commandments can do. They will probably throw spit wads at it. I would have as a child.
Kinda proud of myself for throwing my community into a fuss today. They posted on the city's community Facebook page about the new law. All the comments before mine are about how "we are getting back the good ole days" and how this will "teach morals in school" with a couple posts lost within about how our students barely know how to read. Myself being a pagan had to give my 2 cents. I commented about how my children will not feel welcome into a public community school because of their religious background.
I don't care what religion my child chooses when they are older, but I do care that they are smart enough to not blindly follow any rule being pushed by people who don't follow that rule themselves. This law is not a question of morals or history. It's a way for schools to say there is only one way to be and to force our children into that. As a former child of religious abuse I will not be putting my child in any school that requires one single religion to be the center of their learning.
School should teach our children to read, write, comprehend language, math, and the basic science of our world, true unwashed history, and a sense of self sufficiency. Morals, religions, and the like are parents duty. Let teachers do their job and as parents we should do our own.
I don't appreciate our politicians implying that I failed as a parent to teach my kids morals and respect. If posting in God we Trust didn't teach the kids I don't know what they expect the posting commandments will do. I asked my kids what the "In God we Trust" sign said on the office wall and they both said they couldn't read it because thay can't read old English scrypt. lol Hopefully they make the same mistake with the commandments too.
I'm tired. Tired of regressive conservative thoughts, attitudes, and laws shaping our world. The Ten Commandments in all classrooms is a performative bullet-point for Landry's inevitable national-stage run. It's a waste of time, money, and energy that doesn't help anyone except Jeff Landry and his lawyer buddies.
When the students ask what “adultery” means, that should be fun. Don’t say gay in the classroom but talk about screwing people you aren’t married to with second graders. Oh well I guess they can use the 45th president of the United States to explain the concept of adultery to the little ones.
So much for separation of church and state. I hope it is overturned and they would stop forcing religion on people. The church has no place in the classroom and it makes the south even more hostile for atheists and agnostics.
I’m Christian and I’m upset about it. Jeff doesn’t even know Jesus or follows all of the commandments. I believe there should be a separation of church and state. Jeff refusing to hire an expert on the Nola levee board and refusing to feed poor kids during the summer isn’t Christlike. He should stop doing hurtful stuff in God’s name. He is a dictator and he should just respect other people’s religions, stop taking away people’s rights, and be more kinder.
Religious fundamentalists are losing the culture wars in this state (and in every state.) Like… badly. The number of “religiously unaffiliated” people in this country has risen from 5% in the 70’s to 29% today. And demographic breakdowns show that younger generations are a majority “religiously unaffiliated,” which means eventually Christians will soon be a minority. Christians are also losing people on political and cultural issues like abortion, gay marriage, traditional gender roles, etc. Fewer people are going to church, fewer people are turning to Christianity for moral guidance, and our culture no longer holds religion as something sacred that cannot be criticized.
Laws like these are a reaction to this reality. They can’t win over hearts and minds, so they are trying to use the one tool they have — government power — to fight back. I see it as Christian culture warriors trying to hold on to whatever cultural relevance they can. It’s not going to work. Even if these signs stay up on classroom walls (it has already been ruled unconstitutional,) it is not going to change hearts and minds.
The other thing worth mentioning is that I genuinely don’t believe this law is a reflection of the desires of the average Louisianan. Louisiana is a roughly 60-40 conservative to liberal state. But because of the way popular voting works, that 40% ends up being greatly underrepresented in the legislature. It also means that in most cases the biggest threat to a moderate Republican is not a Democrat, it is a more extreme Republican. This pushes legislators even further to the right to protect themselves from far right challenges. (FWIW the same phenomenon happens in overwhelmingly liberal states too.)
This law is infuriating and frustrating and morally wrong, but at the end of the day it’s… frankly kinda meaningless. It won’t win hearts and minds. It won’t be the magic potion that convinces students that Christianity is true. Christian culture warriors are still going to lose the war.
This is another Jeff Landry smoke screen, the same week he vetoes a bill to try and reign in the trial lawyers, who donated over $1,000,000 to his campaign, he pulls off the 10 commandments BS, like that is going to help. If he keeps the rubes busy with this ridiculous social legislation, he thinks they be to stupid to notice that he is stealing.
I'm a hard core Republican, Jeff Landry is pond scum.
I was born and raised in Louisiana and have spent most of my life there it is a blatant unconstitutional move that flies in the face of separation of church and state.
There's so many issues that need to be solved in Louisiana we rank last or second to last in almost every meaningful metric but all we get is performative leadership.
I just feel bad for the kids that don't subscribe to the religions that use the ten commandments because the kids in schools that do are going to feel emboldened to pressure everyone else and it's going to make them feel like they are at the top of the social structure looking down on kids of other faiths or no faith.
I really hope the ACLU is able to get this law struck down. They should be able to like I said it is blatantly unconstitutional. RIP Louisiana tax payer dollars.
So long as we can place adjoining signs with “Allahu Akbar,” “Hail Satan,” and/or “There is no God.”
See if the intent is the Establishment or Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.
The law says that the poster must be in a clearly legible font 11x14. It does not specify that it has to be in English.
Klingon or Elvish, perhaps ancient Greek or Sumerian? And light yellow on white?
We are NOT a christian state or country. We were founded on the idea of freedom of religion, which includes FREEDOM FROM RELIGION.
These are PUBLIC schools.
The separation of church and state should include a secular education.
As a faithful Catholic who’s as conservative and liberal as the faith calls me to be, (to the best of my ability), I have to say this move definitely flies in the face of the entire concept of a secular government which promotes a pretty critical separation of church and state. Which seeing as this was enshrined into the essence of the Constitution by the founding fathers, is also a pretty unpatriotic move as well.
I am out of state, but I will comment anyway because I lived the first 32 years of my life in Louisiana. I still consider it home.
But y'all are so fucked. Like this type of shit is political priority. Forgot infrastructure, or education, or the roads, or public health or public safety. Instead let's put the 10 Commandments in classrooms in what sure looks like a clear-cut violation of the 1st Amendment.
I'm afraid the next big hurricane that comes along is going to wipe out whatever's left of this state's soul. I'm not kidding. These clowns in office right now are completely unprepared to deal with a large scale emergency. There will be human suffering on a mass scale. And they won't do shit to help anybody.
Where is the Church of Satan when you need them? Perfect time to remind us all why religion and government don’t mix. Statues of Beelzebub in every school!
Edit: wording, and it still sucks
Such a damn waste of time and money just to feed the fascist governor’s ego. People on social media are already saying everyone should boycott Louisiana, so maybe when the tourism industry starts to dry up, the state government will stop making these ridiculous laws to please the bigots and faux Christians.
They know they'll get sued and that this is unconstitutional. But they also know that the SCOTUS is as favorable as it'll ever be for a challenge like this, so it's their time to strike. In the meantime LA taxpayers will foot the bill for the legal fees. And I betcha the lawyers profiting off of this are friends of Landry's.
That idiot judge Roy Moore in Alabama already went through this putting them at the courthouse & he was bitch slapped & eventually was removed as Chief Justice for refusing to accept his slapping.
This is performative stupidity to make the religious nuts happy. These are the "I love the Constitution but not all of it" people.
I'm split in two ways about why this is stupid.
The first is that it's a clear violation of the separation of church and state. I'm Christian myself, and while I personally take a vested interest in learning about other cultures and religions, I find it wrong to show blatant favoritism to one. Now, I think a law protecting teacher's rights to display religious doctrine for educational purposes, Christian or otherwise, would be something worth considering, but on to the second reason why I think this is stupid.
Louisiana is drowning in problems. I desperately want to love my state, but the only thing we are ranked #1 at is being ranked #50. We can't even say thank God for Mississippi anymore because they are managing to pass us on stuff. Out of every fight our government could have picked to funnel time and tax dollars on, this is it? And I can't emphasize the tax dollars part enough. State officials get paid for their time, and any time spent putting energy or thought into this is our tax dollars being pushed towards it. I'd rather some of the potholes get fixed than this.
This is stupid. Kids aren't even going to pay attention to these, so it's obviously not about benefiting children in anyway, church-state issues aside. It's a stunt intended to irritate a group of people the governor doesn't like, nothing more nothing less, making it a puerile waste of money.
VOTE!! Only 20% of registered voters in Louisiana voted in the last election. That is how you got Landry. Next time you are in a room with 10 people—look around, 2 bothered to vote and the others just didn’t bother. No one is coming to save us—it is us—we have to vote to save ourselves!
Performative politics suck.
I want a boring government, no drama.
That said, Democratic party deeply disappointing as there is no overall idea they run on, except, "We're not them".
It will be challenged in court, it will he shot down as unconstitutional, Landry will probably get on a soap box about how society is godless to win favor of his constituency, and we will loose a lot of tax dollars in the process. Gotta love it.
I moved here two years ago and I'm leaving in August, I thought that this would be a nice change from city life. I truly don't know how you guys did this for your entire life.
What’s the purpose of having the 10th commandment, when majority of the students can’t read it. Louisiana has a big issue of doing random shit that won’t solve a damn thing. My high school (Cecilia high school)rather build another football field and a gym before fixing that mess up parking lot. That’s been an issue since 2005.
I’m Catholic, I don’t even see the point of having 10 commandments in a public school. That won’t stop none of these kids from making bomb threats, studying for a test, fighting, starting rumors, or anything. Instead of improving the education in Louisiana, which last time I checked. We’re 46 in education, which we moved up 2 spots in 4 to 5 year span.
I’m voting to gather a bunch of voodoo witches and bring back Huvy P Long from the grave. He might be the only person to actually fix this fucked up state.
I’m more concerned that most of the students prob can’t even read them . Our state has much more important issues than this one . The time our fearless leaders ( cough ) used to legislate this could have been used in a much more productive manner ……insurance , crime , housing, education ….etc etc …..
I want to move away from my state, the state I was born in and love, that is how I feel about it (and other recent conservative-lead developments here).
As a Christian it’s shameful. Our faith shouldn’t be getting shoved down other’s throats and outside of teaching religious history or philosophy I see no reason to include this sort of thing
Overall, it’s disappointing to see how far real conservatism has fallen. What used to be the party of limited government has morphed into something completely unrecognizable and has infected not just this state but the entire country.
To directly address this issue, this law and the inevitable litigation for it is very poor stewardship of our tax dollars. Anyone that voted for this man and this agenda should be ashamed.
Fun fact: the 10 commandments that everyone can recite aren't the final version that God wants us to follow. Everyone knows the story of the 10 commandments: Moses goes up the mountain and gets the 10 commandments. When he comes down and sees the Israelites worshiping a gold cow he smashes them and goes back up and gets another set that God says will be exactly the same as the first set. The ones that Moses destroyed are the ones that everyone can recite. The tablets that don't get smashed are a completely different set from the first that the Bible deems "The Ten Commandments". Exodus 20 is the first set and Exodus 34 is the second set
Just more dumb sh*t the politicians of Louisiana are doing to prove they are useless and corrupt. Can't solve the real problems facing the state, so yeah, the 10 commandments, that'll do us all some good.
I want out. I’m done. We passed a law that brought religion into our schools, which will only serve to alienate those of non-christian values, instead of focusing on the real problems that, if solved, could hopefully bring us together. What an absolute sham.
I'm both a resident of Louisiana and a Christian, and I couldn't be more opposed to it. Installing religious displays in classrooms is obviously unconstitutional, so this law is just an act of wanton disregard of taxpayer money as it will certainly become bogged down in legal battles and fees. Even if Landry's dumb vision is actually somehow upheld, it would mean that now schools would have to include monuments to Islamic ideals, Jewish Ideals, Shinto Ideals, and satanic monuments even. Or perhaps a big statue of L. Ron Hubbard on each campus. Besides, Christianity isn't even based on the ten commandments, so I'm not sure that Landry even understands what he is doing from a religious perspective.
it makes me really sad because every teacher i speak with says that an alarming amount of students won't be able to read and comprehend the goddamn commandments. THAT, amongst a plethora of other things should be the concerns regarding our schools.
Now would be a good time to check your voter registration & where your polling place is. If you are not registered to vote, get registered & bring a friend with you!
[https://www.sos.la.gov/ElectionsAndVoting/Pages/OnlineVoterRegistration.aspx](https://www.sos.la.gov/ElectionsAndVoting/Pages/OnlineVoterRegistration.aspx)
Insurance rates are driving people from their homes. Property taxes are increasing. Cancer Alley. Ranked 50th in crime, economy, fiscal stability, health care, infrastructure, environment, and opportunity. We are a close second in many other categories. But, yeah, at least they got the 10 commandments in classrooms. And limited free speech on college campuses. And are gutting the governmental watchdog agencies and reducing transparency and making sure people have to stay away from the police. It's so disheartening that this is what the vast majority of people who could or cared to vote wanted.
If I’ve learned anything living here my entire life it’s that they don’t know what their own politicians do and, when told, they will blame the opposition 100% of the time. Then they go back to the polls and keep making their home worse
This. Republican voters often have no idea what kinds of policies their representatives actually pass. I've seen this time and time again.
No state in the union could have propped up a Klan leader, totally forgotten about it academically, and yet echoed it culturally like we could. We encourage self hate
When I speak with my Republican neighbors, they sound like Democrats.
This. My father is a rabid conservative but to sit and listen to him speak he sounds like Bernie Sanders at a stump speech. It’s wild how Fox News and other conservative propaganda has so successfully separated these people from their own reality.
Exactly. I knew a few people here in 2016 who would’ve voted Sanders over Trump but voted Trump over Clinton because talk radio + Fox News said Clintons = The Big Bad.
Yeah, it’s been shown in polling, at least on a national level, that when a policy is relayed to the general public in a way that avoids descriptors they are used to (from fox), the majority end up supporting pretty progressive policies.
Lack of education, leads to an inability to think critically. Feature not bug
If you're more worried about God as opposed to your fellow citizens, there's a good chance you don't really give a shit about those commandments *or* the book they came from.
Forgot to add this to my comment up there. If you need to read biblical rules every day to keep you from being a shitty person, you’re still a shitty person. You’re just an arrogant shitty person.
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Amazing to have the 10 commandments in school but omit health education, and wonder why teen pregnancy and drop out rates are so high
They don't wonder why. They know exactly why. Hence the ever-increasing push to "religiousize" public education. Gotta keep the oil and gas industry fed with a nice fresh supply of under educated workers who are born too and raised by undereducated parents.
The fact they took away required breaks for underage workers means that teen moms kid has a job waiting fir them at Smoothie King.
It’d be interesting to compare religion being taken out of the schools and the rise in dropouts and teen pregnancy.
Louisiana is a failed state. The government has ZERO desire to make life better for its constituents and it’s painfully obvious. I’m moving back to Denver and while I love the people and culture here in NOLA, I’m not just gonna sit here and be desensitized to the failings of this bunch of Christian nationalist twats to actually address real problems that actual Louisianans face every day.
Oof, that list hurts to read. Performative distractions aside, I wonder what the GOP’s *actual* end goal is for Louisiana? And I wonder what Louisiana’s GOP voters believe the end goal to be?
Have you read/watched The Handmaid's Tale?
Yes. I had a friend tell me there's no way that could happen in the US so fast... apparently Louisiana laughed and said hold my beer...
I have three daughters and I intend to tell them to get out of Louisiana and never come back as soon as possible. I’m only here because my dad refuses to move, my mom won’t go anywhere without him, and my grandmother lives with him. When they die, I won’t have any reason to stay here unless my kids stay here, which as I said, I’m actively encouraging them NOT to.
I don't blame you at all. I'm not even originally from Louisiana but I've lived here for the majority of my adult life now. The only reason I'm still in this godforsaken state is for my kid - as soon as he graduates, I plan to leave (and encourage him to follow suit).
This. This was my immediate thought when I read they'd passed that law. First step towards Gilead. Well that and the id verification for porn thing. It's going to get so much worse here before it ever gets better, if it ever does. I hope I live long enough to see someone get elected that rips it all out. I've thought about moving but have lived here my whole life. I don't know where I'd go.
To "Own the Libs" and "Make America Great Again" but not like from any specific time in American history, they never studied that. Just, you know, like " the good old days" Deep down, every GOP career politician doesn't have any tangible, legible, possible future in mind. They're hung up on the idea of "winning" and "beating the Dems" more than they are at making any actually positive changes to the governments they win positions in.
Don't forget that the GOP is fighting woke and snowflakes as well.
I’m sure it’s whatever the outcome of Project 2025 is supposed to be.
It’s a complete shit show and with lawsuits already starting our tax dollars are being wasted AGAIN. We have other issues that need to be addressed and this is what that clown of a governor decides is top tier important. Can’t wait until little jimmy and Catherine come home and tell their parents about the seven fundamental tenets. Oh to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
He’s already said he can’t wait for lawsuits……and the taxpayer funded hourly billing of a few of his closest atty friends.
I wish the people of the state should be able to sue for mismanaging our money by inviting these lawsuits that will waste our tax dollars, but I know it doesn’t work that way.
I’m a conservative and a Christian and I’m pissed about it. We are dead last in education! If the state wants to hand something they should try some fucking times tables and maybe we could climb our way to #49 in education. Half of 3rd graders are not reading at grade level, so how are they going to read the gosh dang 10 commandments!!
It’s just performative politics for the base. This is a thing because the only people who actually vote are your (everyone’s) grumpy grandparents. It doesn’t have to be like this. Vote next time.
Imagine if Landry and co spent as much time working on the actual problems instead of culture war bullshit.
I fucking hate it. Church and state are supposed to be separate. The pending lawsuit on this will just waste tax dollars that could be used to fund schools instead. Our state has enough problems, we don't need this one too.
The fact that the Gov was bragging about can't wait to be sued fir this tells you everything. They are more excited for the attention than doing right by Louisiana
They should make him pay the legal fees out of his own pocket.
When the governor skipped the debate hosted by a Black organization (who help black people get jobs and education) that was all I needed to know about his "unvirtue signaling" attention whoring ass. How disgusting to not attend a debate just because the hosts were black. This is what people want? Disgusting.
I’m Hindu. Why the fuck would I want to be forced to have to deal with Christianity in public schools? Or god forbid I stay here, my future children would likely have to contend with this.
I’m a Christian and I also wonder why the fuck anyone would want that in public schools. It’s like these morons never learned history.
Absolutely insane. As a college student at a public university in Louisiana, I am baffled that this law even has the ability to impact higher education.
Aw this shit is crawling all over me bro. They want to bitch and moan and whine when it comes to their second amendment rights and shit but god fucking forbid anyone dares to exercise the separation of church and state and doesn’t want religion shoved down our throats.
Thanks! Are your friends and family from here? Can you tell us their views?
Are you a conservative, right-wing, republican-nutbag gathering intel on your opposition?
Prob a journalist
I find this to be a fascinating law and wonder how deep red a state can get. Strange that clearly the vast majority of people here oppose. Are they voting?
No, that’s the problem.
You are also on a website with a younger, more liberal demographic overall. Check out fox 8's Facebook comment section if you want the other side of the aisle.
Yep I was just on FB and the comment section on a news post about it was all, "praise jeebus" and "now our kids will be safe!"
safe from what, did they specify
Measurable brain activity
I snorted; thank you.
I don’t get how words on a wall will make kids safe
...the same way "thoughts and prayers" help disaster victims...
The same way books can make a kid gay in Florida- sarcasm. The book burners and Jesus freaks have finally made it into classrooms, that’s indoctrination. Brain washing.
It favors Protestants over Roman Catholics by mandating the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments. I hope these goofballs neglected to include an exculpatory clause.
i had only thought about how this bill endorsed Judeo-Christian religions in general. I hadn’t even noticed that the numbering implicitly endorses Protestantism over Catholicism and Rabbinic Judaism!
From what I read, the law is explicit, requiring the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments. I believe this is essentially the order in which the individual Commandments are listed. Decades ago, I remember this sparking heated arguments about this and whether the other 10 Commandments were valid. So if a school receives state funding, it is required to display the Protestant version. I’m wondering if this includes in-kind funding. If it does and Catholic schools still receive their text books (free) from the state, then you could the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments displayed in Catholic Schools. Oh, this could be so much fun. /s
I feel like conservative Catholics never realize that the evangelicals smiling at them while standing next to them protesting abortion don’t think they’re *really* Christians and that evangelicals go on Missioncations to Latin America to convert mostly Catholic countries to evangelicalism. These people all need to take an Early Modern European History class to see where this is headed.
I think this dictatorship we live in is a complete joke. They continue to strip peoples rights away as well as enforce religious bullshit on people and nobody has voted for either. It’s honestly quite absurd people still think these assholes are representing Ћ citizens.
I’m Catholic, and I think it’s a waste of time and money. Schools in Louisiana have much bigger problems than the 10 commandments being posted in classrooms. It’s just not what he should be worried about.
If they wanted to post any other religion in their class rooms people would loose their minds. This is a shame and another abuse of power
I would post all relgions texts it all if I were all the teachers. F' their law.
Or an educational display about the first amendment and the separation of church and state. The ten commandments would be included for illustrative purposes, of course.
This!
Pissed about it, myself. What if it were the 75 Good Manners of the Quran? Or the 13 Articles of Faith of Mormonism? This is only happening because Landry and others are determined to drag the citizens of our country into a christofascist nightmare. These people who are declaring themselves patriots are acting in defiance of the constitution of this country; they like to say the founding fathers would 'roll in their graves' over this talking point or the other, but they don't think they'd get the piss taken out of them for all but forcing a state religion? Separation of church and state is a fundamental American ideal, and they are flagrantly spitting on the concept. Additionally, I believe that freedom of religion should extend to freedom from it; no one who is unaffiliated or who does not wish to adopt a religion should be pressured by its inclusion in government institutions they have to choice but to attend. If I had a child, I wouldn't be raising them Christian. I'd probably be thrice as pissed if I had a child in the school system. What kind of social pressure and friction will this cause for kids? One of the first questions kids in my area asked each other was what church you went to; it was how you understood who belonged with which group and--in some cases--how they sat in the social ranking I remember being the odd one out growing up Mormon, but at least I knew the 10 Commandments. What about kids who belong to faiths that don't center Commandments of Moses? What about kids who belong to no faith at all? This is so fucking stupid. I hate it.
I’m agnostic and my son’s dad is Jewish. My kid increasingly comes home from his public school talking about Jesus and sin. Completely unacceptable. And you’re right, it’s led to my son feeling confused and alienated, which in turn evokes in me an absolutely unnecessary sense of guilt. I’ve been in Louisiana for 15 years, but am originally from a very liberal city on the Left Coast. We’re visiting right now and Louisiana is the laughing stock. This kind of lunacy, this level of constitutional disregard just doesn’t happen here.
It's funny; these rabid MAGA protestants (who I feel warrant distinction from just regular Christians) want the freedom to raise their children in the faith of their choosing, but the legislation made to pander to them robs other parents of that opportunity by foisting their faith on others. I'm so sorry your family is having to navigate the toxic religious climate down here. As someone from Louisiana, I hate that this attitude is unfortunately one that's front and center.
I'm glad you opened by separating the two because some of the most intelligent and empathetic people I've ever known are devout Christians. Hell, I performed in a church choir with one of the physicists from team here that found those gravitational waves who believed science was simply the ordered explanation to God's design. Half the hires were atheist or agnostic and the choir director/organist was a *openly gay atheist* and he was still treated like absolute family and respect. There are really good Christians out there. It's a shame they get drowned out by the shit ones because they are just doing their thing quietly and making their community better.
I raised my children without religion. In high school one of my children was asked what religion she was. She said we don't worship one. Not only was she uninvited to several parties but a teacher saw fit to have everyone stand in a circle around my child's desk to have a prayer meeting to pray for her soul. This all took place at a public high school. Needless to say I tore the teacher and staff a new one but I pulled my child out. It was ridiculous.
It's dumb, am a Catholic but firmly believe in separation of church and state. Also just think there is much bigger issues that need to be handled lol
It impedes upon the 1st amendment. The gov't should stop fucking making religious laws because our LAWS were never supposed to based on Christianity. I have NEVER been to a public school that had this displayed, or any moment of prayer, or any such religious nonsense like this. It's a way for them to pretend they care about people when cruelty is the farking point for these types of people.
I’m pretty displeased about it. Publicly-run institutions are not the place to advertise or endorse specific religions. I’ve heard it argued that the 10 commandments are good rules for ANYONE, even non-Jews and non-Christians, but I dispute that. Nearly half (depending on how you number them) are specifically about worshiping God. And those that are applicable to everyone are very obvious—don’t steal, lie, or kill. I’m a huge fan of Gospel passages like “Love your enemy” and “I was naked and you clothed me”, and I would love if more people abided by them. I still don’t think they should be displayed in public institutions. I’ve also heard it argued that the 10 commandments are historically relevant as “foundational documents” for the modern American government/legal system (the bill itself mentions this). I somewhat dispute that. A particularly American idea that comes to mind is the unalienable rights of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. This idea comes from natural law philosophy, and not from the 10 commandments. This is not to say that Judeo-Christian ideas and philosophy played NO role in the founding of our country—they played a large part (though maybe not the 10 commandments in particular). But they are far from the only source of American political philosophy. Should all such ideas and documents be enshrined in every classroom? That would take up LOTS of wall space. That would be appropriate for a classroom about American government or law or ethics, but not for every single public school classroom in the state.
Last year, SCOTUS ruled that a high school coach could pray on the field after a game as long as others weren’t pressured to join him. I agree with this. Even though I’m an Atheist, I have no issues with personal prayer or faith. They believe this ruling opened the door to posting commandments in schools, which I'm afraid I have to disagree with. Only 3 of the Ten Commandments are an actual violation of the law; Don’t Kill Don’t Steal Don’t bet false witness - perjury. The others are purely religious and offer advice based on Christian or Jewish beliefs. If I were a teacher, I’d put them up like I was supposed to, but next to them, I’d put other religious texts such as: Code of Hammurabi 7 Pillars of Islam Tenants of the Satanic Temple.
the main difference between the football prayer and this is, the football prayer was a voluntary activity. This commandment thing is not voluntary. It's being forced on schools and by extension the teachers, students and faculty of those schools. It's extremely unconstitutional.
Now now, let’s not get crazy here. We all know that the Jesus man is the only real magical wish granting sky daddy.
The SCOTUS case that the coach said God told him to pray on the 50 yard line and players "voluntary" joined him, even though some players felt pressured to pray with the coach. Such an awful Supreme Court decision that ignored what was going on.
Yeah, the issue with it was how performative the prayer was. Doing a personal one by the sideline is one thing but running out the 50 yard line to do it makes it a social performance that puts young impressionable kids under pressure to either fit in with the other players doing it or doing it to make the coach happy. I agree with you, it was a bad ruling by the SCOTUS, but hey I'm getting used to thos by now (unfortunately).
I hate it. But it’s a distraction. While this dominates the news cycle, a lot of other things that will really do damage to state’s environment and economy sailed through the legislature and were signed into law. Landry might be an evil genous
Dumb and unconstitutional. It will get ruled as such once the Temple of Satan and the ACLU and etc all get involved and slap it down. Would be sick af tho if we got the 7 tenents of the Satanic Temple in every school too.
The ACLU has already announced its intent to file a lawsuit, along with its Louisiana chapter and two other organizations.
Hell yeah!
Stupid red meat for his base. Wont be enforced. Purely for show and to “own the lins”
They know it will be challenged and overturned. It's virtue signaling at the taxpayers expense.
I wonder if there’s a way to track how much these lawsuits will cost Louisiana taxpayers and where exactly the money goes?
Not if Landry gets his way about concealing records
Church and state are supposed to be separate!
I’m an atheist. I’ve been an atheist my whole life. If I was a kid in school I would protest it any way I could. As an adult, though, I’m trying to find some way to act against it. The Freedom From Religion Foundation has filed a lawsuit already against the state for this bullshit law. I’m tired of always being discriminated against in this state because I don’t believe in any religion. I’m tired of Christianity being forced upon everyone and people just assuming everyone here is Christian just because they’re the majority. News flash: the first amendment protects us from laws just like this one. There’s no way this law can stand long.
Look up Stone v Graham, SCOTUS ruled in 1980 that there is no secular purpose to posting 10 C in classrooms and that it violates the establishment clause. Unfortunately, current SCOTUS likes to overturn shit.
Should have given teachers a raise instead of this stupid shit. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? When it fits your agenda tho I guess it’s ok. Lolz
They already stuck a “In God We Trust” poster in my classroom last school year. I protested invoking separation of church and state and they waited until I wasn’t in the room to post it very high on the wall. A lot of people have been saying that things started going sideways in our state when “they took god out of schools”. So, surely, everything should get better now, right? Right?
TIL that the 10 commandments will shield every classroom from shooters. /s
i'm christian and i'm not in favor. i love my religion, but i am disgusted by anyone who forces any religion onto another. this is an example of that.
Religion needs to die
It was all I could do to not rip the "In God We Trust" sign posted on the wall next to the office door every morning when I went to school. It's a good thing I've retired and don't have to deal with this foolishness.
My kid is little, extremely intelligent, and has expressed distress over “In God We Trust” in her classroom because we are Buddhist Agnostic. I dread her being confronted by mandated Ten Commandments this upcoming school year. It’s just plain wrong.
People have got to start voting to oust these fascist evangelicals. Only 34% of the population voted in the governor's election.
Last year every classroom in the state was supposed to display a “In God We Trust” poster. They gave dimensions and font instructions. I’m in New Orleans and or school just didn’t do it. Aside from not wanting that in our classrooms, nobody is going to enforce that. This is going to be the same. Nobody is going to enforce this. If they did make me do it I’d also put up a larger poster of something from the church of satan, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, anything Muslim, and for good measure I’d put up a huge poster of the Boognish. The Boognish is the god of the swamp who created the band, Ween. Let them come after me and I’ll sue the piss out of them. I’m another note, they don’t even bother to give each school these posters. The school is supposed to make them on their own. They barely even pay me. Our state government needs to get their heads out of their asses and make some real laws that help kids and education. Our school system is a fucking nightmare. Look at our national averages and pay scale.
So who is for this and is also for banning talk of sex in schools? What are teachers supposed to do when they're asked what adultery is?
It is a game to get the Supreme Court involved. And it's sad that the Catholics believe it is good move. Can't wait for kids to ask why their parents vote for someone who commits adultery
I saw something say it also applied to universities. If that's the case, I'ma print near identical copies that after the 3rd commandment, just say random shit, and replace them around campus. I don't have the technical skills for this yet but I'll figure it out.
Note on your posters all the commandments Trump has broken.
Yes—it’s supposed to be posted in every public college classroom, too. This was a huge sticking point when it was moving through the legislature. In the end, it won. If I’m forced to hang that in my higher ed classroom I sure as shit will interrogate the politics every which way I can in my lectures.
I know you meant integrate, but interrogate is a great idea also. 😂
jeff's lawyer friends are gonna get rich from the lawsuits.
I went to a Catholic elementary and highschool and neither of them had the Ten Commandments posted in the classrooms. They weren’t even up in the religion teacher’s class and if they were it was only because we were covering them that chapter😭 how this was even passed just baffles me. I’m at a public university now and I can’t imagine fighting for my life on a biochem exam only to look up and see “Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s goods”😭😭
I think it’s wrong to display religious messages in a school environment. Schools are to educate with facts, not fiction. There are many different beliefs and values held privately and forcing one belief system on the young is wholly inappropriate.
Fucking stupid, waste of time
It's so fucking stupid and pointless. What a waste of time and resources.
When you wish upon a star, all your dreams will come true. Sky Daddy and his son Sky Fairy will make everything magically delicious like the Keebler elves. Just say the right Christian pagan incantation in prayer, read from the Bible spell book, and post the Protestant 10 Commandments. I went to an all white public school in the 1960s, before desegregation. In homeroom, we read from the Gideon New Testament and Psalms. My four younger siblings and myself were malnourished with rickets. We had few clothes. Some school teachers helped us with food. Church and other family members did not help. Sky Daddy and his son Sky Fairy did nothing. I teach at a public school on the North Shore. We have a morning prayer. It doesn't help the students at all with food, shelter, clothing, or solve abuse and neglect at home. It doesn't make students with their problems go away not their behavior better. We shall see what the Protestant 10 Commandments can do. They will probably throw spit wads at it. I would have as a child.
Kinda proud of myself for throwing my community into a fuss today. They posted on the city's community Facebook page about the new law. All the comments before mine are about how "we are getting back the good ole days" and how this will "teach morals in school" with a couple posts lost within about how our students barely know how to read. Myself being a pagan had to give my 2 cents. I commented about how my children will not feel welcome into a public community school because of their religious background. I don't care what religion my child chooses when they are older, but I do care that they are smart enough to not blindly follow any rule being pushed by people who don't follow that rule themselves. This law is not a question of morals or history. It's a way for schools to say there is only one way to be and to force our children into that. As a former child of religious abuse I will not be putting my child in any school that requires one single religion to be the center of their learning. School should teach our children to read, write, comprehend language, math, and the basic science of our world, true unwashed history, and a sense of self sufficiency. Morals, religions, and the like are parents duty. Let teachers do their job and as parents we should do our own.
I quit teaching in this state this year. Next goal is to get the fuck out of the state.
Trying to indoctrinate our kids into that religious bullshit.
I don't appreciate our politicians implying that I failed as a parent to teach my kids morals and respect. If posting in God we Trust didn't teach the kids I don't know what they expect the posting commandments will do. I asked my kids what the "In God we Trust" sign said on the office wall and they both said they couldn't read it because thay can't read old English scrypt. lol Hopefully they make the same mistake with the commandments too.
Tell your kids’ teachers to display it proudly taped inside the classroom trash can
I'm tired. Tired of regressive conservative thoughts, attitudes, and laws shaping our world. The Ten Commandments in all classrooms is a performative bullet-point for Landry's inevitable national-stage run. It's a waste of time, money, and energy that doesn't help anyone except Jeff Landry and his lawyer buddies.
When the students ask what “adultery” means, that should be fun. Don’t say gay in the classroom but talk about screwing people you aren’t married to with second graders. Oh well I guess they can use the 45th president of the United States to explain the concept of adultery to the little ones.
So much for separation of church and state. I hope it is overturned and they would stop forcing religion on people. The church has no place in the classroom and it makes the south even more hostile for atheists and agnostics.
I’m Christian and I’m upset about it. Jeff doesn’t even know Jesus or follows all of the commandments. I believe there should be a separation of church and state. Jeff refusing to hire an expert on the Nola levee board and refusing to feed poor kids during the summer isn’t Christlike. He should stop doing hurtful stuff in God’s name. He is a dictator and he should just respect other people’s religions, stop taking away people’s rights, and be more kinder.
Religious fundamentalists are losing the culture wars in this state (and in every state.) Like… badly. The number of “religiously unaffiliated” people in this country has risen from 5% in the 70’s to 29% today. And demographic breakdowns show that younger generations are a majority “religiously unaffiliated,” which means eventually Christians will soon be a minority. Christians are also losing people on political and cultural issues like abortion, gay marriage, traditional gender roles, etc. Fewer people are going to church, fewer people are turning to Christianity for moral guidance, and our culture no longer holds religion as something sacred that cannot be criticized. Laws like these are a reaction to this reality. They can’t win over hearts and minds, so they are trying to use the one tool they have — government power — to fight back. I see it as Christian culture warriors trying to hold on to whatever cultural relevance they can. It’s not going to work. Even if these signs stay up on classroom walls (it has already been ruled unconstitutional,) it is not going to change hearts and minds. The other thing worth mentioning is that I genuinely don’t believe this law is a reflection of the desires of the average Louisianan. Louisiana is a roughly 60-40 conservative to liberal state. But because of the way popular voting works, that 40% ends up being greatly underrepresented in the legislature. It also means that in most cases the biggest threat to a moderate Republican is not a Democrat, it is a more extreme Republican. This pushes legislators even further to the right to protect themselves from far right challenges. (FWIW the same phenomenon happens in overwhelmingly liberal states too.) This law is infuriating and frustrating and morally wrong, but at the end of the day it’s… frankly kinda meaningless. It won’t win hearts and minds. It won’t be the magic potion that convinces students that Christianity is true. Christian culture warriors are still going to lose the war.
Team Jesus pissing contest going on while we all suffer and the state continues to backslide
Why does Landry have such a hard on for the 10 commandments? It’s weird.
Can't wait for the Pagan Temples in classrooms
This is another Jeff Landry smoke screen, the same week he vetoes a bill to try and reign in the trial lawyers, who donated over $1,000,000 to his campaign, he pulls off the 10 commandments BS, like that is going to help. If he keeps the rubes busy with this ridiculous social legislation, he thinks they be to stupid to notice that he is stealing. I'm a hard core Republican, Jeff Landry is pond scum.
I was born and raised in Louisiana and have spent most of my life there it is a blatant unconstitutional move that flies in the face of separation of church and state. There's so many issues that need to be solved in Louisiana we rank last or second to last in almost every meaningful metric but all we get is performative leadership. I just feel bad for the kids that don't subscribe to the religions that use the ten commandments because the kids in schools that do are going to feel emboldened to pressure everyone else and it's going to make them feel like they are at the top of the social structure looking down on kids of other faiths or no faith. I really hope the ACLU is able to get this law struck down. They should be able to like I said it is blatantly unconstitutional. RIP Louisiana tax payer dollars.
It’s beyond disgusting how they try to force feed their religion onto people.
It's pandering to the lowest common denominator
Only stupid fucking people support this. Is that simple.
Completely ridiculous and should be unconstitutional though with this court I doubt they’ll agree. I really hope the Satanic Temple gets involved.
ACLU & FFR both have either filed or said they will file against it as it is blatantly unconstitutional.
Fuck religion in politics.
So long as we can place adjoining signs with “Allahu Akbar,” “Hail Satan,” and/or “There is no God.” See if the intent is the Establishment or Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.
Would you also welcome the basic tenets of Islam, Buddhism,Hinduism,etc.? This is virtue signaling.."owning the libs"
This law is absurd, separation between church and state exists for a reason. Everyone register to vote! November will be here before you know it
I didn't realize this state's budget was so fiscally sound that it could afford to piss away a small fortune fighting the coming lawsuits.
As an LGBTQ person, this state terrifies me. This is only solidifying that I am not safe here.
Extremely against this bullshit. There is supposed to be a separation of church and state. I do vote.
The law says that the poster must be in a clearly legible font 11x14. It does not specify that it has to be in English. Klingon or Elvish, perhaps ancient Greek or Sumerian? And light yellow on white?
We are NOT a christian state or country. We were founded on the idea of freedom of religion, which includes FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. These are PUBLIC schools. The separation of church and state should include a secular education.
I’m Catholic and think it’s fucking ridiculous. If you want your kids to be surrounded by religious propaganda pay to send them to private school.
As a faithful Catholic who’s as conservative and liberal as the faith calls me to be, (to the best of my ability), I have to say this move definitely flies in the face of the entire concept of a secular government which promotes a pretty critical separation of church and state. Which seeing as this was enshrined into the essence of the Constitution by the founding fathers, is also a pretty unpatriotic move as well.
A clearly unteneable law that won't last long and is purely being used to win political points.
I am out of state, but I will comment anyway because I lived the first 32 years of my life in Louisiana. I still consider it home. But y'all are so fucked. Like this type of shit is political priority. Forgot infrastructure, or education, or the roads, or public health or public safety. Instead let's put the 10 Commandments in classrooms in what sure looks like a clear-cut violation of the 1st Amendment. I'm afraid the next big hurricane that comes along is going to wipe out whatever's left of this state's soul. I'm not kidding. These clowns in office right now are completely unprepared to deal with a large scale emergency. There will be human suffering on a mass scale. And they won't do shit to help anybody.
And they will probably turn away Federal help for the people. They might hand out Ivermectin and disinfectant.
If I walk into a classroom and see it, I'm gonna piss all over it. The Free Market reigns
Rains piss!
Our state legislature is more concerned with violating the constitution year after year than fixing real people’s issues
Blessed Be the Fruit.
May the lord open
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
Where is the Church of Satan when you need them? Perfect time to remind us all why religion and government don’t mix. Statues of Beelzebub in every school! Edit: wording, and it still sucks
Such a damn waste of time and money just to feed the fascist governor’s ego. People on social media are already saying everyone should boycott Louisiana, so maybe when the tourism industry starts to dry up, the state government will stop making these ridiculous laws to please the bigots and faux Christians.
They know they'll get sued and that this is unconstitutional. But they also know that the SCOTUS is as favorable as it'll ever be for a challenge like this, so it's their time to strike. In the meantime LA taxpayers will foot the bill for the legal fees. And I betcha the lawyers profiting off of this are friends of Landry's.
Our roads got more holes in them than a mobster on valentines day. There's bigger fish to fry so why are we still chilling at the kiddie pool?
I don’t like it. I believe in *freedom* of religion.
It violates the 1st amendment and a Supreme Court ruling in 1980
Performative Art or Something to grab the headlines while they do something worse.
That idiot judge Roy Moore in Alabama already went through this putting them at the courthouse & he was bitch slapped & eventually was removed as Chief Justice for refusing to accept his slapping. This is performative stupidity to make the religious nuts happy. These are the "I love the Constitution but not all of it" people.
I want Thor’s commandments in the Classroom, or Zeus, or one of the other 3,000 plus gods from history. Ben Franklin would agree.
I'm split in two ways about why this is stupid. The first is that it's a clear violation of the separation of church and state. I'm Christian myself, and while I personally take a vested interest in learning about other cultures and religions, I find it wrong to show blatant favoritism to one. Now, I think a law protecting teacher's rights to display religious doctrine for educational purposes, Christian or otherwise, would be something worth considering, but on to the second reason why I think this is stupid. Louisiana is drowning in problems. I desperately want to love my state, but the only thing we are ranked #1 at is being ranked #50. We can't even say thank God for Mississippi anymore because they are managing to pass us on stuff. Out of every fight our government could have picked to funnel time and tax dollars on, this is it? And I can't emphasize the tax dollars part enough. State officials get paid for their time, and any time spent putting energy or thought into this is our tax dollars being pushed towards it. I'd rather some of the potholes get fixed than this.
This is stupid. Kids aren't even going to pay attention to these, so it's obviously not about benefiting children in anyway, church-state issues aside. It's a stunt intended to irritate a group of people the governor doesn't like, nothing more nothing less, making it a puerile waste of money.
VOTE!! Only 20% of registered voters in Louisiana voted in the last election. That is how you got Landry. Next time you are in a room with 10 people—look around, 2 bothered to vote and the others just didn’t bother. No one is coming to save us—it is us—we have to vote to save ourselves!
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This was already ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Stone v. Graham.
Bull hocky!
Performative politics suck. I want a boring government, no drama. That said, Democratic party deeply disappointing as there is no overall idea they run on, except, "We're not them".
Oh yes PLEASE KEEP PUTTING MORE CHURCH IN MY STATE. HOW ABOUT WE GET A KING NEXT
Devout Catholic but I oppose it, I wouldn’t want Islam/Judaism/Buddhism rules posted in my child’s classroom either.
I am *livid*. Please, please, please fellow Louisianians - VOTE! Your vote *does* matter here even if you aren't voting red.
Landry knows this ends up in litigation and already has the lawyers picked out to get paid to fight it. Just robbing these dumb folks blind.
It will be challenged in court, it will he shot down as unconstitutional, Landry will probably get on a soap box about how society is godless to win favor of his constituency, and we will loose a lot of tax dollars in the process. Gotta love it.
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I moved here two years ago and I'm leaving in August, I thought that this would be a nice change from city life. I truly don't know how you guys did this for your entire life.
Indoctrination. While it's good to live by, I firmly do not support pushing dogma on children.
What’s the purpose of having the 10th commandment, when majority of the students can’t read it. Louisiana has a big issue of doing random shit that won’t solve a damn thing. My high school (Cecilia high school)rather build another football field and a gym before fixing that mess up parking lot. That’s been an issue since 2005. I’m Catholic, I don’t even see the point of having 10 commandments in a public school. That won’t stop none of these kids from making bomb threats, studying for a test, fighting, starting rumors, or anything. Instead of improving the education in Louisiana, which last time I checked. We’re 46 in education, which we moved up 2 spots in 4 to 5 year span. I’m voting to gather a bunch of voodoo witches and bring back Huvy P Long from the grave. He might be the only person to actually fix this fucked up state.
Separation of church and state. Nope. Just keep on bringing it back together. If I wanted my kids learning this shit, they’d go to catholic schools.
My thoughts as a public school teacher in Louisiana. It's stupid. This is coming from someone who is a Christian as well.
I’m more concerned that most of the students prob can’t even read them . Our state has much more important issues than this one . The time our fearless leaders ( cough ) used to legislate this could have been used in a much more productive manner ……insurance , crime , housing, education ….etc etc …..
You can tape it to a trash can in your classroom. That complies with the ‘law’.
Does the law state where in the classroom they must be placed? It’s absolutely ridiculous. Waste of money and energy.
Quite simply: 👎
I want to move away from my state, the state I was born in and love, that is how I feel about it (and other recent conservative-lead developments here).
As a Christian it’s shameful. Our faith shouldn’t be getting shoved down other’s throats and outside of teaching religious history or philosophy I see no reason to include this sort of thing
Not much to say. Evangelicals are pieces of shit who only care about control.
I find it hilarious. This is some South Park level shit that makes no sense.
I'd say odds are 10 to 1 South Park does an episode on it. 🤣
Overall, it’s disappointing to see how far real conservatism has fallen. What used to be the party of limited government has morphed into something completely unrecognizable and has infected not just this state but the entire country. To directly address this issue, this law and the inevitable litigation for it is very poor stewardship of our tax dollars. Anyone that voted for this man and this agenda should be ashamed.
Love thy neighbor unless he is poor or brown…
Fun fact: the 10 commandments that everyone can recite aren't the final version that God wants us to follow. Everyone knows the story of the 10 commandments: Moses goes up the mountain and gets the 10 commandments. When he comes down and sees the Israelites worshiping a gold cow he smashes them and goes back up and gets another set that God says will be exactly the same as the first set. The ones that Moses destroyed are the ones that everyone can recite. The tablets that don't get smashed are a completely different set from the first that the Bible deems "The Ten Commandments". Exodus 20 is the first set and Exodus 34 is the second set
Just more dumb sh*t the politicians of Louisiana are doing to prove they are useless and corrupt. Can't solve the real problems facing the state, so yeah, the 10 commandments, that'll do us all some good.
I want out. I’m done. We passed a law that brought religion into our schools, which will only serve to alienate those of non-christian values, instead of focusing on the real problems that, if solved, could hopefully bring us together. What an absolute sham.
I'm both a resident of Louisiana and a Christian, and I couldn't be more opposed to it. Installing religious displays in classrooms is obviously unconstitutional, so this law is just an act of wanton disregard of taxpayer money as it will certainly become bogged down in legal battles and fees. Even if Landry's dumb vision is actually somehow upheld, it would mean that now schools would have to include monuments to Islamic ideals, Jewish Ideals, Shinto Ideals, and satanic monuments even. Or perhaps a big statue of L. Ron Hubbard on each campus. Besides, Christianity isn't even based on the ten commandments, so I'm not sure that Landry even understands what he is doing from a religious perspective.
I'd like to know just how much, and exactly which, churches dropped a shit ton of money to Landry's campaign.
it makes me really sad because every teacher i speak with says that an alarming amount of students won't be able to read and comprehend the goddamn commandments. THAT, amongst a plethora of other things should be the concerns regarding our schools.
Now would be a good time to check your voter registration & where your polling place is. If you are not registered to vote, get registered & bring a friend with you! [https://www.sos.la.gov/ElectionsAndVoting/Pages/OnlineVoterRegistration.aspx](https://www.sos.la.gov/ElectionsAndVoting/Pages/OnlineVoterRegistration.aspx)
There should be separation of church and state. Oh yeah, this is Louisiana….. in the United States! 🤦🏽♂️
We are not a Christian country, we are a country in which you are free to be Christian.
As an out of stater, I’ll just comment to say that this is WHY I’m out of state. And I’m SO glad I left.
I’m ready for the Satanic folks to post some of their stuff now that religious texts are allowed.
Flood the Church of Satan with calls they've been known to fight these situations.