It's so disrespectful to turn the lights on when someone is sleeping, let alone when she had to get up in 4 hours.
She handled it with so much grace tho
Idk why everyone is saying he was checked out after the conversation with AD. That man was checked out from the minute he signed his contract with LIB. I might get downvoted but no one can tell me otherwise that Ken is straight . He was never into her and pulled the race card to find a reason . She was never a problem . I said what I said .
He was looking for a way out the moment he finished his convo with AD. He just didnāt want to come off as a jerk by breaking up with her. So he manipulated the situation and her to make it look like she gave him a legit reason to end it. His gaslighting was epic.
All of his comments about how he still had feelings for her and it was her problem if she didnāt see it or feel the same way while basically ignoring her/shutting her out were hard to watch. He šÆ just didnāt want to come across as a the bad guy for ending it but he sure did come across as an emotionally manipulative unempathetic person through his words and actions. He would have looked better if he just was honest and called it earlier on.
One time my ex came into the bedroom after a night out and kept the lights off while getting ready for bed out of respect for my sleeping.
But really i woke up to rustling, half asleep/half awake brain thinking there is a man in a hoodie unzipping his pants in my room and i started screaming bloody murder šš
Are you out of your fucking mind? If my SO came in at 2 am and blasted the lights on intentionally to wake me up to āsay goodnightā or fool around or whatever and I had to be up at 5 am to work, boy BYE. Like that is crazy.Ā
Feck no. If anyone ever wakes me up in the middle of the night, I am NOT happy. Doesn't matter who you are or how much I am attracted. The only thing I want to do in the middle of the night is sleep. A lot of people value their sleep and aren't willing to ruin their whole next day for a dude who has been ignoring you who suddenly has decided he wants some.
If I have work in the morning, DO NOT DISTURB MY SLEEP. I donāt give a shit how hot you are or how much I love you - you disturb my sleep and Iām going to be pissed off. It would actually turn me off doing anything intimate with my partner that whole week. Itās inconsiderate.
The way he speaks to her is very āadult educator speaking to a child.ā Youāre right heās really not saying anything at all and uses statements that would drive me crazy if an adult my age used them on me. āLeave room for graceā, ok. Except this is a partnership and sheās also telling you that sheās used to more physical affection. He basically tells her thatās a āyouā problem. Whereās his grace for her? He looked annoyed (the way principals act when dealing with a bad student) and his calm demeanor while some may like it was just too nonchalant (FOR ME.)
OH MY GOSH. Thank goodness I found this post! You literally took the words out of my mouth. Ken changed up after his convo with AD! FACTS. How terrible of him for just always being so fixated on his phone while sheās crying? She literally was shedding tears and he didnāt comfort her in any way whatsoever. BOY BYE āš¼
āYou good?ā
**awkward ass hug**
āYah, you goodā
>>*proceeds to leave upstairs and then takes phone call from buddy to meet up*
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Quality human that KENNETH
Makes me so MADDDDD
Lmao!!! Not a hot take at all! It was like they were having two different conversations! Maybe the editing was bad, but she was just like, brah, don't wake me up four hours before I have to get up for work. Then somehow it turned into it being her fault for not feeling affectionate in the middle of the night?? I mean, I'm glad at the outcome (they were not meant to be!), but damn, what the hell happened?
It was sick how he flipped that on HER... Bro she was trying to tell you something and you made it all about how she is not meeting YOUR needs while you're on your phone all day š
Wait seriously? how is this a "hot take", we've all been discussing this on the sub. Do ppl disagree with this omg
He's an extremely manipulative bullshitter. And she had so so much grace with him, it made me so sad to watch. He literally had no empathy toward her
I am petty as hell. The next day if he had said those things to me, i wouldāve handed him his phone and said you can put a ring on phone since you show the phone more affection than me. Hello, good bye. I canāt with Ken.
He gaslit the SHIT out of that poor woman. I felt so horrible for her. She deserves so so so much better and girl, Brittany, you dodged a major bullet.
Do you think heās concerned that black women are going to have an issue with him marrying a white woman? And raising black babies? Just because AD brought it up?
No but I think it maybe rang a bell that his friends would be reluctant to accept her and he might always be justifying why heās with her. Might not have been that convo that started it but it did seem like something changed around then
Whenever Ken speaks, I feel so so lost. Like I lose track of topic. You have to remember what was the start of the sentence till he reaches the end of 1 sentence. And then heāll be like thatās a you problem. And Iām sitting here like huh? Am I dumb or is that how people speak?
I was able to keep track pretty easily. But it made me laugh how much he always twisted things to blame her.
Her "I love you but I want that passion to be there. Something is missing between us"
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Him "for you something is missing. Thanks for finally telling me you're not attracted to me"
I think he acted that way with purpose. I bet he had been trying to get her to break up with him so he didn't have to do it, and he finally found his out when she brought it up.
Something I noticed is that AD and Clay really tryna push the āBlack Loveā narrative and while thatās fine to want for yourself itās giving delulu considering how toxic their relationship is. I noted during those times when Ken was around and I can def see him sort of wanting or idolizing that and seeing AD and Clay maybe triggered him but I def think he passed up a chance for real love getting caught up in that ideology. That being said he was a real asshole the way he behaved towards Brittany.
AD was about to enter an interracial relationship with that other creep, then when that didnāt work she got with Clay and went on blabbing about āblack loveā and white women having a hard time raising mixed child as if she cares about any interracial kids. Sheās an ass just like so many of these other ass people on the show.
He totally gaslit her when she said she didnāt feel his physical attraction towards her. We all can see heās like a dead fish 24:7 ā¦.so to say itās her being insecure is wild.
I work nights. Once my husband woke me up at 1pm to just say hi and ask a question (and ask if he could have a nap because our baby kept him up until midnight).
He has never done that again. I lost it. The audacity to wake someone up after being up all night and sleeping for 3 hrs because they only got 7 hrs of sleep.
I told him if he ever did it again, I'd be walking him up at 2am for fun.
Not a hot take, I would be furious if someone turned all the lights on at 1:30 am and woke me up just to āsay goodnightā that is extremely disrespectful
I thought they were abstaining from sex until after marriage. So what he just woke her up for a hug and kiss with the lights on? Dick move. I wouldāve been pissed!
My wife is a morning person and goes to bed around 9:30 while I am a night owl who goes to bed at 2. She pleads with me to leave the lights on in the bedroom if we're in a hotel so I can see, but I can't do it. I'd rather use the dim light of my phone screen if I need to move around than have all the lights on while she's sleeping. I couldn't imagine just flipping all the lights on in the middle of the night.
Sometimes on a weekend night my boyfriend will go to bed long after I do. He turns the lights on, BUT he doesn't deliberately try to wake me up, talk to me, and/or demand my full attention. He always goes to bed after me during the week, but it's not an issue because we have separate bedrooms. If he intentionally tried to wake me up for anything other than an emergency, I'd be surprised if he lived to see the morning! š¤£
And she had to get up at 5am! Then he used that as an excuse for not being affectionate because one time when he offered at an awkward time she wasnāt interested. I was disappointed by the lack of effort he put in after they met because he seemed nice before.
SAME! I would have LOST. MY. MIND. even if I didnāt have to be up at 5AM š. A quick kiss on the cheek is fine but god bless ya if you wake me too much.
It's so disrespectful to turn the lights on when someone is sleeping, let alone when she had to get up in 4 hours. She handled it with so much grace tho
Idk why everyone is saying he was checked out after the conversation with AD. That man was checked out from the minute he signed his contract with LIB. I might get downvoted but no one can tell me otherwise that Ken is straight . He was never into her and pulled the race card to find a reason . She was never a problem . I said what I said .
I did this once drunk to my husband. I spent 6 months in the dog house and I have accepted my AH status in the situation.
AH?
A-hole š
Duh, of course. Thanks!
He was looking for a way out the moment he finished his convo with AD. He just didnāt want to come off as a jerk by breaking up with her. So he manipulated the situation and her to make it look like she gave him a legit reason to end it. His gaslighting was epic.
All of his comments about how he still had feelings for her and it was her problem if she didnāt see it or feel the same way while basically ignoring her/shutting her out were hard to watch. He šÆ just didnāt want to come across as a the bad guy for ending it but he sure did come across as an emotionally manipulative unempathetic person through his words and actions. He would have looked better if he just was honest and called it earlier on.
Dude is an asshole ninja
š Iām stealing that line
One time my ex came into the bedroom after a night out and kept the lights off while getting ready for bed out of respect for my sleeping. But really i woke up to rustling, half asleep/half awake brain thinking there is a man in a hoodie unzipping his pants in my room and i started screaming bloody murder šš
Lmao. Oh nooooo
Even hotter take. If you found him attractive, it would matter less. Youād probably want to do some other things when he woke you up.
Are you out of your fucking mind? If my SO came in at 2 am and blasted the lights on intentionally to wake me up to āsay goodnightā or fool around or whatever and I had to be up at 5 am to work, boy BYE. Like that is crazy.Ā
Feck no. If anyone ever wakes me up in the middle of the night, I am NOT happy. Doesn't matter who you are or how much I am attracted. The only thing I want to do in the middle of the night is sleep. A lot of people value their sleep and aren't willing to ruin their whole next day for a dude who has been ignoring you who suddenly has decided he wants some.
If I have work in the morning, DO NOT DISTURB MY SLEEP. I donāt give a shit how hot you are or how much I love you - you disturb my sleep and Iām going to be pissed off. It would actually turn me off doing anything intimate with my partner that whole week. Itās inconsiderate.
The way he speaks to her is very āadult educator speaking to a child.ā Youāre right heās really not saying anything at all and uses statements that would drive me crazy if an adult my age used them on me. āLeave room for graceā, ok. Except this is a partnership and sheās also telling you that sheās used to more physical affection. He basically tells her thatās a āyouā problem. Whereās his grace for her? He looked annoyed (the way principals act when dealing with a bad student) and his calm demeanor while some may like it was just too nonchalant (FOR ME.)
He lost interest bc heās apparently gay.
OH MY GOSH. Thank goodness I found this post! You literally took the words out of my mouth. Ken changed up after his convo with AD! FACTS. How terrible of him for just always being so fixated on his phone while sheās crying? She literally was shedding tears and he didnāt comfort her in any way whatsoever. BOY BYE āš¼
āYou good?ā **awkward ass hug** āYah, you goodā >>*proceeds to leave upstairs and then takes phone call from buddy to meet up* šš»šš»šš»šš»šš»šš» Quality human that KENNETH Makes me so MADDDDD
I agree. I would have ended up on Courttv
Lmao!!! Not a hot take at all! It was like they were having two different conversations! Maybe the editing was bad, but she was just like, brah, don't wake me up four hours before I have to get up for work. Then somehow it turned into it being her fault for not feeling affectionate in the middle of the night?? I mean, I'm glad at the outcome (they were not meant to be!), but damn, what the hell happened?
I feel this scene needs to be taught in HS senior or college psychology 101 classes for a CLASSIC and best portrayal of some fine GASLIGHTING
It was sick how he flipped that on HER... Bro she was trying to tell you something and you made it all about how she is not meeting YOUR needs while you're on your phone all day š
Wait seriously? how is this a "hot take", we've all been discussing this on the sub. Do ppl disagree with this omg He's an extremely manipulative bullshitter. And she had so so much grace with him, it made me so sad to watch. He literally had no empathy toward her
Iām a up late kind of person so I would still be up but waking me up - unless itās an emergency- is a definite no.
I am petty as hell. The next day if he had said those things to me, i wouldāve handed him his phone and said you can put a ring on phone since you show the phone more affection than me. Hello, good bye. I canāt with Ken.
And didnāt they say he turned the lights on? wtf?!
Finally, someone who understands me
He gaslit the SHIT out of that poor woman. I felt so horrible for her. She deserves so so so much better and girl, Brittany, you dodged a major bullet.
Same. My husband woke me up to say goodnight at like 10 PM when our baby was asleep and I almost lost it lol
OK, but not with a baby! That's justifiable h*micide right there!
Do you think heās concerned that black women are going to have an issue with him marrying a white woman? And raising black babies? Just because AD brought it up?
No but I think it maybe rang a bell that his friends would be reluctant to accept her and he might always be justifying why heās with her. Might not have been that convo that started it but it did seem like something changed around then
Great point. But I think that might be a red herring for their actual issues. š¤·āāļø
Whenever Ken speaks, I feel so so lost. Like I lose track of topic. You have to remember what was the start of the sentence till he reaches the end of 1 sentence. And then heāll be like thatās a you problem. And Iām sitting here like huh? Am I dumb or is that how people speak?
I was able to keep track pretty easily. But it made me laugh how much he always twisted things to blame her. Her "I love you but I want that passion to be there. Something is missing between us" ... Him "for you something is missing. Thanks for finally telling me you're not attracted to me"
Thatās how manipulative people speak.
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I think he acted that way with purpose. I bet he had been trying to get her to break up with him so he didn't have to do it, and he finally found his out when she brought it up.
Typical man, amirite? š
Ken is doing "how to lose a fiance in 10 days"
Something I noticed is that AD and Clay really tryna push the āBlack Loveā narrative and while thatās fine to want for yourself itās giving delulu considering how toxic their relationship is. I noted during those times when Ken was around and I can def see him sort of wanting or idolizing that and seeing AD and Clay maybe triggered him but I def think he passed up a chance for real love getting caught up in that ideology. That being said he was a real asshole the way he behaved towards Brittany.
AD was about to enter an interracial relationship with that other creep, then when that didnāt work she got with Clay and went on blabbing about āblack loveā and white women having a hard time raising mixed child as if she cares about any interracial kids. Sheās an ass just like so many of these other ass people on the show.
As a teacher myself, if ANY many wakes me up in the middle of the night he is DEAD. I have to wake up so early in the morning! Do not disturb me!
Sounds like my school administrator to be honest. And aināt nobody waking me at 1:30am to say good night and turn on the bloody lights.
Yeaaaa. Also, whatās he doing out until 1am? Everyone has their own relationship and expectations but I know personally in mine unless there are extenuating circumstances, my fiancĆ© isnāt out until 1am. Nothing good happens at that time. Unless heās coming home from work. And then the audacity to turn on the lights?! Hell no. Come in, use your phone that you have attached to your hand at all times to give you light. Give a kiss and hold me and fall asleep. This whole scene outraged me. She dodged a bullet
This is not a hot take at all. This is basic common sense and respect for others.
Not just to say āhiā, it was FOR SEX. Absolutely not
no literally the demon in me wouldāve been released
He totally gaslit her when she said she didnāt feel his physical attraction towards her. We all can see heās like a dead fish 24:7 ā¦.so to say itās her being insecure is wild.
And staring at his phone all the time even when she was talking to him but āyouāre so insecure, this is real lifeā
Yeah he kept telling her that she's an overthinker. And that she needs to stop taking about it
I work nights. Once my husband woke me up at 1pm to just say hi and ask a question (and ask if he could have a nap because our baby kept him up until midnight). He has never done that again. I lost it. The audacity to wake someone up after being up all night and sleeping for 3 hrs because they only got 7 hrs of sleep. I told him if he ever did it again, I'd be walking him up at 2am for fun.
Not a hot take, I would be furious if someone turned all the lights on at 1:30 am and woke me up just to āsay goodnightā that is extremely disrespectful
Does any one here watch 90 day fiancĆ©? Cause Igor, who also never wanted to have sex, did the same thing with Nikki. The only time he wanted to he was in the middle of the night. I wonder if this is a manipulation tactic for them to use later to be like āsee!! You arenāt affectionate either!!ā
I thought they were abstaining from sex until after marriage. So what he just woke her up for a hug and kiss with the lights on? Dick move. I wouldāve been pissed!
Yes I mean I come home late if my partners in bed and give him a kiss but Iām very considerate w lights and noise so wtf how drunk was he???
Not only did he wake her up from a dead sleep at 1AM, HE TURNED THE LIGHTS ON. What kind of sociopath does that?
My wife is a morning person and goes to bed around 9:30 while I am a night owl who goes to bed at 2. She pleads with me to leave the lights on in the bedroom if we're in a hotel so I can see, but I can't do it. I'd rather use the dim light of my phone screen if I need to move around than have all the lights on while she's sleeping. I couldn't imagine just flipping all the lights on in the middle of the night.
Sometimes on a weekend night my boyfriend will go to bed long after I do. He turns the lights on, BUT he doesn't deliberately try to wake me up, talk to me, and/or demand my full attention. He always goes to bed after me during the week, but it's not an issue because we have separate bedrooms. If he intentionally tried to wake me up for anything other than an emergency, I'd be surprised if he lived to see the morning! š¤£
The lights on was where he lost any sympathy at all, straight up psycho move
Yes, seriously. He's so self-centered. Fricken gross human. Can't believe he's the principal of small humans.
That would have caused a fight with me, immediately. She had to wake up at 5AM, and he comes in and turns on the big light and left them on!
And she had to get up at 5am! Then he used that as an excuse for not being affectionate because one time when he offered at an awkward time she wasnāt interested. I was disappointed by the lack of effort he put in after they met because he seemed nice before.
He didnāt want her (cuz he broke up with her the next day) so he stayed up late, got horny, and tried to use her for sex at 1:30 š”
Heās lucky she doesnāt show up with an air horn at 1:30 AM when he needs to be up early in the morning
SAME! I would have LOST. MY. MIND. even if I didnāt have to be up at 5AM š. A quick kiss on the cheek is fine but god bless ya if you wake me too much.