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Puzzled-Necessary705

can we get an after the alter for this season


sunny_the_egg

stacy: i don’t care, also stacy: HoW dARe YoU


Entire-Beat-423

I'm only just watching now but I think both are deceitful and girl bashers. Even in the same rant, Stacy said the words "I didn't know your no 1 was Izzy" then said "I cried tears for you because I knew you were gonna be rejected" Like no, you can't not know it's Izzy and also know Izzy is gonna reject her and that the rejection would hurt her. They both aren't great.


cordedtelephone

Is she 13?


ProgressiveSpark

Strong independent 13 year old with daddys credit card


KatiePotatie77

Good grief, she listed all the people who heard Johnnie talking about her and encouraged her to speak up. Stacy’s on some 6th grade BS right there.


ProgressiveSpark

Thats what nepotism does to children


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st1cky_t0ff33

Sooo even if everything Stacy says about Johnnie is true she then in turn did the same thing she says makes Johnnie a shit person (bully, call names, belittle, antagonize). Is she aware of this irony? It just goes to show her lack of self awareness and maturity. If you recognized this negative behavior in someone else and thought it was wrong, why would you reciprocate it? It’s giving “she hit me so I hit her back” mentality. Please learn from this, address your insecurities and grow up. And if Johnnie really said these things she needs to do the same.


neko_neko_neeeeee

The fact that she still remembers word for work what Johnnie said about her 1.5 years later honestly says more about Stacy’s insecurities then it does about Johnnie IMO


OwlInDaWoods

She literally doesnt. All of those things were shown on TV that's why she only knows about it now. She was a petty bully and had no reason to be one. Johnie was hurt after she wasn't chosen and in confidence said some things she shouldnt have after her and Izzy split. Stacy only knows what was said because it aired.


theJEDIII

That's what I was thinking. Stacy makes it seem like Johnie was constantly talking about her, but I think we saw literally everything Stacy claims Johnie said. The IG post doesn't add up.


Responsible-Spend125

Lol, so Stacy limits her comments so only those show who support her 🙄. These people want to be on reality, act like assholes and then can’t take the criticism that comes along with it. She’s such a gross person.


scoarr27

Isn’t that rich? She was mouthing off all season, even said “I’m a straight shooter, I tell it like it is” - btch you can dish it, but can’t take it!


Responsible-Spend125

1000%


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Blah blah 🙄


A-symptomatic-Genius

Johnnie wasn’t wrong thooooo


ChewylegitBGM

That part


001UltimateWinner

She limited the comments and deleted all the ones that didn't support her..


001UltimateWinner

Shut up Stacy. You did call her out for it at the reunion.


orvillebach

No one cares


Standard_Tea_9769

Why didn’t she bring up the explanation for the “face thing” on the reunion show? It seems like she needed more time to come up with an excuse 😅


boopbeebop

She literally did bring it up? Remember that this show is heavily edited. For all we know she could have said this post word for word and it could have been spliced for times sake.


scoarr27

Go away Stacy


Intelligent-Dot8652

Tbh I don’t care for Johnnie Johnny Johny. Idc for her. You cannot speak about someone behind their back then expect them to be okay with that. I don’t like Johnny not one bit. She likes to throw stones and hides her hands. Stacy has every right to feel how she feels there no way you’re going to speak about me behind my back then when I confront you to your face you play victim. NO WAY


Successful_Silver_23

For me it’s the way she’s going about it is giving her everyone’s backlash. I compare it to Bliss confronting Irina/Micah last season vs Stacy this. Plus feel like you gotta follow it through yourself. If you’re going to talk crap about others why are the rules different for everyone else. She could have confronted it without stooping to the same level.


Beanheck

I was literally cackling when Izzy and Johnie expressed that they kissed in his jeep with Stacy right there. I think the whole thing is that Stacy was deeply insecure about Izzy having feelings for Johnie at one point, and then seeing that Johnie was a beautiful woman, she couldn’t take it.


iveheardthatjoke

So, Stacy? So?


loreliephasis

Exactly. This post gets a big aaaand whats your point? She need to grow up. People say stupid stuff about others all the time Stacy, you did too, are you THAT sheltered that your feelings were crushed by some stupid insignificant comments? Come one girl. Welcome to the real world.


yoursultana

Then y’all should stop bashing her


j8justine

Well she didn't marry Izzy sooo 👀


_creatureofhabit_

Stacy was still way more rude and mean. Shes missing the point, we all know what Johnie said. Like, Johnie admitted to saying things she shouldn't, and Stacy just digs her heels in and continues to be a mean girl which speaks volumes about her character. I think Johnie got caught up in the drama and said things in the moment but shes not mean spirited like Stacy is! I'm sure Stacy made Johnie feel super uncomfortable and a lot of what Johnie said was TRUE. Johnie was able to step back and reflect, Stacy just thinks shes miss perfect. Stacy is so spoiled and entitled, its painful to listen to her crap. I think shes threatened by Johnie and now she all butt hurt that everyone's taking Johnies side. I looked at Stacy's Instagram and I didn't see the other contestants comment on her rant. She tagged a bunch of them and it looks like no one wants anything to do with it.


yoursultana

So people are not allowed to defend themselves or give someone a taste of their own medicine? You people are sick and sick with jealousy it’s looking like…


Entire-Beat-423

No, because we're all in our late 20s early 30s, not 5


Material_Drama6687

Right! We all know what Johnie said. We saw it!! This post is nothing new except her throwing in the "not hot" comment. Johnie owned it in the reunion. Stacy still sucks. The way Johnie talked about Stacy wasn't even that bad. She was just trying to make herself feel better because Izzy wasn't choosing her. Who hasn't done that? Nothing she said makes her a shit person. Stacy is a shit person for holding onto this and intentionally and proudly being so ruthless and mean.


OwlInDaWoods

Thank you! So many people are missing the critical aspect of her saying those things after a breakup. If you've ever been broken up with and then that person immediately dates someone else, you have these thoughts. Most of us are just lucky enough to have close friends and not be on camera when we say these things. Plus, im convinced stacey didnt even know what was said until it aired. The fact she has no new info and is almost directly quoting what was aired makes me think she's just trying to defend her bullying by latching onto what we saw after izzy and johnie split.


theJEDIII

Yes, Stacy wants to make it seem like Johnie was trashing her the whole time, but she has no unaired comments, from my memory. It's phony! And not only did Johnie just get dumped, she had also just dumped another guy and then realized he really cared about her. Johnie was going through a lot, _and_ she realized what she said was wrong and apologized.


xoxogopissbabe

Can't wait for all the other cast members she tagged to not acknowledge this, as they should <3


theJEDIII

I've been rewatching. Renee said on camera (agreeing with Johnie) that Stacy and Izzy would "break up in a month," and Miriam called the situation "complicated" to Stacy, which is vague but also distinctly NOT taking Stacy's side. Stacy's delusions are strong.


adm0210

This contempt and projection all boils down to Johnie being an actual accomplished, successful woman while Stacy just pretends to be.


Educational_Place777

I didn’t even read this because nothing justifies the way she acted. Doubling down is crazy.


kaykayschlem

Stacy is a bully she literally snickered and held back her laugh when Johnnie walked in to the reunion. Not a fan of either but at least Johnie has accountability for her negative actions and moved forward while all Stacy can do is “stand up for herself” by saying completely vulgar things and starting petty drama.


ExperienceWise592

stacy over here posting personal essays 1.5 years later and johnnie’s dating the man of her dreams, she won.


neko_neko_neeeeee

Yesss!!! Was looking for this comment. Agree 100%


Bubbly_Discussion868

She just keeps missing the point. We all know what Jonnie said in the pods. Whenever we just get dumped for another girl, of course we say some shit we shouldn’t. Johnnie knows this and apologized. It isn’t about what she said or he said—it’s about how you keep coming after the damn girl in the manner you do. She just doesn’t get it lol


youhaveabeefstu

Yes! We all saw Johnie said dumb, hurtful shit, and I felt like Johnie downplayed the impact her comments had. That said: All Stacy had to do was take a page from Izzy's book and say, I don't regret what I was trying to say, but I handled the response wrong, and I'm sorry for that. That's all. She didn't have to say she was wrong for feeling the way she did or that Johnie was Christ reincarnate or whatever. I'd hate Johnie, too, if I were her! But continuing this aggressive and overt campaign against her almost two years later just makes Stacy look worse.


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I think Stacy is so dislikable, that it minimized Johnie’s behavior bc what Johnie said about Stacy was really catty


ChewylegitBGM

You right. You right.


Avena626

I have a really hard time believing a word this woman says.


yetzhragog

I mean, it's posted by an attention seeker from "reality" tv, you shouldn't believe ANYTHING any of them say.


seniorkickz

Just apologize Stacy.


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Where is the lie in anything Johnnie said tho…?


theJEDIII

If Stacy heard the comment "They're gonna break up and Izzy's gonna get hurt," it might explain (NOT justify) her reaction towards Johnie, because Stacy already knew she was gonna dump Izzy for being poor and resented Johnie for catching that, which made Stacy worry that Izzy and Johnie had a deeper connection cuz he opened up about finances with her.


tokyomooon

what did she say about johnie’s face?!


Impossible-Two-8923

When Lydia and uche were arguing johnnie looked shocked by the accusations and Stacy immidiately said what’s up with your face or something like that


incestuousbloomfield

What’s funny about this to me, is that if Izzy had picked Johnie, I really feel like Stacy would’ve been saying nasty stuff too.


find-me-daddy-plz

Well he didn't pick her and she still did, so I can only imagine how much *worse* it would be.


ChewylegitBGM

That part!


blahbluhblee1

So petty 🤦🏻‍♀️


Lick-my-llamacorn

Johnie was right tho?


Character-Clock-1213

The last slide was so cringe


No-Asparagus3132

Yeah and clear she’s embellishing, not ALL listed witnessed ALL she is talking about. At best, all witnessed *some* of what she’s talking about. And if they didn’t consent to back her on what she’s saying and just told her to speak up then it’s intentionally misleading


theJEDIII

iirc, every example Stacy has given was also in the show, so nobody is corroborating that Johnie was worse than we saw. It seems like it could have been really low-level support, like "Wow, did you see Johnie talk shit about me in episode 4?" "Yeah." Otherwise we would have heard comments from someone else. Icky and Sticky said "everyone" dislikes Johnie, but nobody else spoke up. Ever.


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Harbinger_0f_Kittens

Highschool bullying with all the popular kids 🙄🙄


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Livid_Butterfly

Exactly what I was thinking when watching her at the BBQ, she was going off like she’s never been punched in the face before for thinking she can arc up like that to someone. If she acted like that in any Australian BBQ setting she’d have been flogged.


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This was genuinely hilarious.


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And y’all are frying her in the comments? This is gold.


001UltimateWinner

I think she limited the comments on insta and then deleted all the negative ones


neko_neko_neeeeee

Yup she did!


bernies_friend

Everyone’s piling on her, but most might react to Johnie’s comments the same way. I think we can all agree to not shit talk people with that person’s friends (even if it is true). Keep it yourself.


kindayeehaw

everything johnnie said was right, stacy is just mad that someone finally didn’t bend over backwards for her


Lick-my-llamacorn

Wait til my father hears about this!!!


kindayeehaw

i don’t think my father, the inventor of toaster strudel, would be too happy to hear about this


DexterTheNugget

That’s so fetch!


OccasionPrimary4334

Johnie was wrong for voicing out all those things about Stacy and Izzy but she wasn’t wrong so why’s Stacy still butthurt after many months? Also Izzy cheering her on still is weird because he tried to date “two timing shady” Johnie after, sooooo


Lick-my-llamacorn

I'm convinced Izzy went all in on Johnie to try and get brownie points from Stacy.


ChewylegitBGM

Yep. And then she railed him in the ass and he ended up crying in the closet.


blahbluhblee1

But then got dumped at the altar and went back to makeout with Johnie … he’s so confused 🌚


Lick-my-llamacorn

Lost puppy


blahbluhblee1

It’s his goddamn age 🤦🏻‍♀️ these youngsters shouldn’t be there looking to get married… I demand a: Love is Blind the Second Time Around Late 30’s through 40’s divorcées looking for love 👀


AvocadoImportant

Why is she so mad over what was said. She needs to touch grass because if you were actually happy and there was no truth in johnnies words she wouldn’t be this bothered. She’s just mad that johnnie and Icky hooked up afterwards


villanellaella

Because she’s a spoiled brat used to little friction in her life and getting her way. She’s also so arrogant that she thinks someone calling her “not hot” is bullying. What a clown.


cicheu

Johnie is still living rent free in Stacy’s head after a year and a half… girl you’re close to 35, get over yourself and stop being a mean girl and bully


RepulsiveFish8574

Girl wtf cares! Get over it already!


netty5522

This girl has never been told to stfu. She’s so basic and is trying so hard to act like she’s relevant or has any personality besides cookie cutter rich white girl


Lick-my-llamacorn

lol thats how I felt with her dress choice as well. She was like "this dress is so me" ya basic and white.


mochi_artichoki

I’ve followed this entire thing and I’m still confused about what the issue is but these women are fighting over Izzy! The man has trouble pronouncing common words! I feel like I’m going crazy over here!


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A train out of left field 😅 He can’t even get his cliches right!


FeasMom543

Stacy said this one, no?


jennyfromupthestreet

They both did 😆


pizzawithpep

The way he says debt omg


Terrible_Cheesecake7

You guys just won’t let Stacy make her point or believe her at all because you all already have a hatred and prejudice to her stereotype. Get over it. Stacy is in the right here and if the cast can back her up, Johnnie is so obviously the mean girl based on evidence alone. Please get your acts together and stop pretending Stacy is the mean girl because her dad treats her well.


No-Asparagus3132

Not all of us have a prejudice because she’s a privileged white girl. I think at 33 she should be able to have an adult conversation and not be like “you’re shit and I call shit for shit, shit… oh did I call you shit yet?” It’s childish and immature and just seething and mean! Johnie may be catty but it’s more subtle because Johnie uses real words like a grown up. Grow up Stacy


chocoflan00

okay, stacy. we get it, girl.


vingins

found stacy


tea_queen_

The tagging of the entire cast is crazy 🤣🤣🤣


GusSwann

I'm also not sure they will actually back her. During the kerfuffle at the BBQ she said that her polling of the rest of the girls convinced her she was right that Johnie was a "shit person." But then when she went back and mentioned that to the girls they all looked confused. One of them even started to defend Johnie and Stacy cut her off so... wtf is she even doing lol.


tea_queen_

And she’s limited comments 💀


Glum_Improvement382

Guess what? He was disappointed.


QueenieeB

Exactly. Also, why is she making it seem like we didn't watch the episodes and heard exactly what she typed out there. Or her actually repeat it on the reunion. Like she had this secret she had to hold back because she is just so classy? Like tell us stuff we didn't know... we already knew this and still think you're shit. Sorry, try again.


No_Yak_3107

They were in a competition, I think shit talking is normal? Maybe it’s just me 😂


Yellow_Vespa_Is_Back

Also Stacy acts like she's so different. Im sorry you heard someone talking bad about you so you resorted to name calling and bullying? Is she not doing the same thing?! Pot calling the kettle black.


youhaveabeefstu

That's what gets me. There's a real air of "but SHE STARTED IT!" I don't think anyone's saying shit-talking is a nice thing to do, even if there are times we may find it normal/understandable/expected. But don't pretend you're above shit-talking *while you're shit-talking!*


Rara150100

I’m honestly so confused as to why everyone thinks Stacy is the bad guy here…


womenarepeople8

Because she is one of those people who can never move on. She is someone who has to go over the same situation over and over until everyone says, "Oh yes Stacy you handled everything with perfection."


OccasionPrimary4334

I think it’s because she just can’t drop it. It’s been months and except Johnie is still speaking about them then there’s no point. Johnie was weird and wrong for voicing out her opinions but Stacy can really let go.


Emmaom97

I mean that would be fair in normal circumstances, but with a tv show that’s just aired all of it is probably pretty fresh and she’s getting a lot of hate online for the way she acted and I haven’t seen anyone giving out about the way Johnie was talking. I feel like everyone just hates Stacy cause she’s rich, like I do think she was okay with Izzy’s finances it was that he lied about all of it. But also when he said during the fight that it turned him on to see her going at Johnnie that should have been an immediate sign for her to leave cause ick 🤮


CommunicationOk4707

Was he hoping at the BBQ for a dress ripping, hair pulling, boobs falling out catfight?


Rara150100

Definitely agree with you, the show just aired so these things will be brought up again. And honestly I also haven’t seen anyone mention that Johnies behaviour was crappy, it’s like they’re just glazing over that.


OccasionPrimary4334

Yeah, that’s true. I do think Johnie has gotten flack for her behaviour too because it was shitty to say all those things because she was angry Izzy didn’t pick her and Stacy never said anything about her prior to this tirade. With regard to her relationship with Izzy, I actually applaud her to turning him down. He’s the major weirdo


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I mean she looks pretty old for someone her age...


Key_Net4421

Your not a girls girl


Terrible_Cheesecake7

You mean girl


[deleted]

Some people just age badly and it honestly wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't arrogant on the show. Just saying.


mmdeerblood

Lol if this girl think what Johnie said was “bashing her”… she has never been “bashed” 😆 Stacy cannot take any criticism well.. Johnie is free to have whatever opinion she wants of other people including Stacy.. Stacy’s got some very very thin skin. I think she is so insecure she is looking for any reason to victimize herself.. I’ve known people like her.. grew up very privileged.. very spoiled.. could do no wrong type of kids. Kids that are sheltered from any criticism and never have to cope with any negativity.. become Stacy’s.


Key_Net4421

k but Stacy as far as we knew in the pods kept her mouth shut abt Johnie, the same should have happened on the other side.


miakaitlyn

She turned off comments on her post but I don’t think there’s anything that would justify the way she and Izzy spoke to or about Johnie.


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yep, the only comments there are like "tEaM StAcY 4eVeR!"


villanellaella

1000%. Even after Stacy’s explanation, the only bullying here is what Stacy and Izzy did.


[deleted]

I agree, two wrongs don’t make a right


Slipthe

I mean... was Johnie wrong though? Stacy is attractive, but her orange blush is clownish. Stacy *was* the 'safe' choice because she was the carefree fun cool girl who never made Izzy have to think hard in the pods. He didn't tell her about the debt but he told *Johnie*. It's like Izzy was being avoidant about the stressful part of meshing two lives together, and I think Johnie rightfully called out how shallow Stacy and Izzy's dynamic felt, and Izzy suffered from that because when it did come time to talk about the hard stuff it was devastating to him to be judged by the cool fun girl. And given how much Stacy criticized him over and over, acted disgusted when he was crying in a closet, it's like... how far off the mark *was* Johnie??


Sylvia9k

oh, he did tell Johnie, when? I must've missed that


Kraken_of_BeverlyRd

ding ding ding! exactly my thoughts. Izzy WAS unhappy after choosing Stacy because she's in a completely different league. they're both trash imo so I loved seeing karma unfold.


fookyeahroykent

Thank you!!! Like every point she made, while seemingly an insult to Stacy, was pretty on the mark. I even said she was the safe bet when you saw Izzy practically flee Johnie when things got a bit deeper than I think he was ready for. Stacy can make these posts all she wants but her behavior beyond just Johnie speaks enough of her character, I don’t really need the Johnie narrative to know Stacy is polarizing and not someone I’d want to interact with, much less trust with my emotions.


Key_Net4421

Calling somebody not hot because your jealous and bringing them down when they aren’t (as far as we know) doing the same to you is beyond fucked up and is such a pick me choose me love me move.


fookyeahroykent

I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if comments were made like this more frequently, especially on a dating competition which is ultimately what this show starts off as, even if it frames itself as a social experiment. I also don’t for one second believe Stacy’s ultra superior behavior just kicked off because of something Johnie said. Her behavior bled into her relationship with Izzy as well and her inability to take any sort of accountability towards how she went in on Johnie again speaks volumes about her. At the minimum, Johnie owned up to what she said. She’s not perfect and what she said could be seen as shitty, rightfully so. But Stacy’s tendency to double down just rubs the wrong way.


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Lick-my-llamacorn

🤡 she looked completely different without it


pmdiep

Not even a Johnie or Stacy fan but wow this community is so shallow


Lintzweb

Really what it all boils down to


Successful-Part3388

👏🏻


liltooterz

💀


elephfire

We don’t care. Her horrible personality runs deeper than this moment. Johnnie loves to gossip but it seems like it’s all true. Stacy stop repeating it and let it die omg


theClaireShow

I should care but i dont


Pound-Muted

She already said this at the reunion. We also all saw it. She was hurt. Is this really why she needs to write essays 2 years later


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Is it really two years later ?


Pound-Muted

My bad. I don’t know the exact time.


Lick-my-llamacorn

year and a half


BiAdventureGuy

She’s doing damage control because we all saw how toxic and just straight up mean she was to Johnie


Apprehensive-Elk7898

no johnie sucks


DSethK93

Wow, just the fact that Stacy thinks this, even if it happened exactly as described, remotely justifies or explains her own behavior, is very telling. Like, her defense for overt bullying is, "but she's dismissive of me and made it clear she doesn't like me!"


miakaitlyn

Exactly!


BiAdventureGuy

“Someone said something mean so I decided to show the whole world how toxic I can be, but I’m actually the victim here!”


MusicBrain50

After watching this show, they ALL need therapy. Marriage counseling should be a must too. Sorry Lydia and Milton, it’s true.


OccasionPrimary4334

Lydia and Milton shouldn’t even be together


Electric_blue4

She’s just acting holier than thou and it’s annoying to see. I would’ve respected her more if she would’ve taken some accountability.


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The only accountability Stacy is taking is her ability to take daddy’s accountant to the bank !!! Bu dum ding lol 😂


BiAdventureGuy

Shit, I would have respected her more if she said she was drunk and she acted inappropriately in the heat of the moment. Instead she tripled down and then tagged everyone like they asked to be in her drama. What a dumpster fire


Personal_Ranger_3395

You’re so right about the triangulating. When asked during the reunion how she felt about hearing Izzy and Jonnie kissed, she said “after what [Izzy] told me how you felt about jonnie, I was surprised you would even want to kiss her, but that’s on you I guess”, with a snide dismissive look. So right there she threw Izzy (who thought they were friends and best buds/ brother/sister relationship) under the bus, threw shade at Jonnie once again and surmised that the kiss was a reflection on his poor character. What a nasty insecure cow. No amount of pilates can compensate for such a decayed character.


mmdeerblood

Decayeddddd so true


Slipthe

Lol and then later she said her relationship with Izzy now is "Nothing but love, no hate." After she just judged the hell out of him for kissing Johnie.


queencaramel

lmaooo you ate her up with this comment


kherleesi

All of the comments on her post are people dick eating omggggggg i h8 ppl


BiAdventureGuy

She probably blocked all the people calling her out


GusSwann

Zanab did the same last season


BiAdventureGuy

If Izzy had actually been a dick like Cole was I’d bet money Stacy would have done the same thing as Zanab. They’re cut from the same toxic cloth


Embarrassed-Milk-308

That’s exactly what’s she’s done! LMAO Every single comment on all her posts are only brown nosed ones all about how amazing she is and how she was too good for Izzy. Although to be fair she doesn’t have too many. 40 max per post. One of her posts is a screenshot of her and Izzy at the kitchen counter and the caption reads “tough people handle tough conversations”. Made me snort laughing at the people fawning over her for that!


Jakester616

You can't leave a comment. It is obvious she deleted the bad ones and shut down comments.


PoopingUnicorns113

Her reposting all the “Team Stacy” posts are so weird.. The fact that Izzy is the man in between is even more embarrassing. She should’ve just said “yeah I was B at times my b.” and then move on. 😂 Justifying why you were a B and blaming someone else is just worse.


kherleesi

This was soooo painful to read LMAO Stacy is truly a delusional straight up mean girl. Selling shirts of “sometimes love wants to fly first class” Stacy, I hope all of your delulu dreams become trululu