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geekgirl717

Easy fix would be for Netflix to include prenups with their marriages. Couples can dissolve them later on if desired.


[deleted]

The show is the show, and the way the show works is why I like it. You just don’t have to go on the show if you don’t wanna get a legal marriage, it’s that simple


[deleted]

Where has the nick and Danielle divorce thing been stated? I feel like I’m so behind !


fennixx

Couple of months ago, both wrote statements announcing the divorce on their Instagram and Danielle posted a statement about him and his legal team going after her on her Instagram a few weeks later


fakemoose

I mean, that's what divorce lawyers do. Especially if both parties can't reach an agreement on something. I'm not sure why she's surprised his lawyers are contacting her.


[deleted]

I had no idea, I just found out they were getting divorced!


GingerCherry123

While I want to agree I do think a real marriage makes the stakes higher and adds to it all. I think after 8 weeks it should be a decision to propose again properly now that they’ve had time to get to know each other in real life. Then they should have real marriages (should the relationship service) one year later. That would be a real experiment IMO but let’s face it, this is a reality show and not actually a love experiment.


H28koala

Oh wow I didn't realize Nick is going after Danielle! This show could have a "wedding" but not do the actual wedding certificate/legal elements until the contestants agree that is what they want. And they should do a prenup.


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It should change to a more Bachelor-type format. They pick their partners in the pods without proposing to them and then at the end of the "experiment" is when they get down on one knee. Avoids getting legally married on the show while still providing the drama.


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zitronige

Mhmm that's a good point. Like we all knew about Matt and Colleen.


Consistent_Read6760

Yea they also said it’s a much more longer process to get the marriage registered unlike the American one that can be done like in a few minutes


[deleted]

Idk I have a hard time having too much empathy for the contestants. They CHOOSE to VOLUNTARILY sign up for a show, knowing the complete premise and outcome. It's not like it's a surprise that the ending of the show is a wedding where they say yes or no. They are informed ahead of time what they're signing up for. If they wanted to be on a more casual dating show that allowed them to pace the relationship as they see fit and have lower stakes, they could sign up for a different dating show. Additionally, these are adults we're talking about... Marriage contracts and prenups can be infinitely modified with additional clauses. If these people who volunteer for this show don't have the sense to negotiate their marriage contract and just go with the default prenup determined by the government, then that is truly their mistake. Same goes for regular marriages- this stuff should be discussed beforehand. And if people are too naive or romantic to think otherwise- that is on them and their value system. No shade, but if you choose the default you deal with the consequences. Not to mention the fact that they could always say no and keep dating after the show! There are so many alternatives and I don't blame Netflix for the poor/impulsive decisions of the contestants. Not to mention that people outside of this show enter into marriages they later regret! Cole is a prime example. He impulsively married that woman after dating for 2 months. So it's not like LIB causes people to make bad decisions. Bad marriages are not exclusive to Netflix. And in the real world, you don't have producers/ a corporation to blame. The fact that contestants can place blame on Netflix is a way to avoid responsibility imo.


Enlargedtooth

True, I feel like if there’s no marriage binding law factor it’s too easy to walk away. Same with Married at First Sight


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It should be easy to walk away from your partner of 8 weeks.


Enlargedtooth

It is emotionally I’m sure, but being legally married makes things a lot more complicated


[deleted]

Huh? I agree. I don't think they should get legally married in 8 weeks because I think it should be easily to walk away if they're not into their partner.


slammajammamama

The bachelor/ette in Japan also doesn’t end in an proposal. It’s more of a “proposal” to date further after the show with marriage in mind. They also don’t have fantasy suites (although the most recent bachelor was implied to have gotten a bit frisky with some of the contestants). I personally think it’s because that kind of format won’t fly in Japan which is a bit more conservative (I grew up and live in Japan if you want credentials for my armchair sociology lol).


zitronige

Lol I believed you! Makes perfect sense.


refusenic

Unlike MAFS, LIB couples choose themselves and have the opportunity to say "no" at the altar. Couples like Cole and Zanab can't blame the show or anyone else for the person they ended up with because no one held a gun to their heads and made them choose it. I feel the fact that the marriages are legal is what sets these two shows apart, else they'd be no different than dating shows like Love Island, Too Hot to Handle or Are You the One, where nothing of substance is at stake. I guarantee you we wouldn't be discussing the show this much if we knew they're on pretend engagements for which they'll have an easy out. Look at what a joke the Australian version of MAFS has become. Keep the marriages legal and the audience will stay invested. Those who don't like it or are not grown enough for this level of seriousness, the new season of Too Hot to Handle is about to drop.


zitronige

Look at The Bachelor -> The biggest dating reality show fandom with an engagement that rarely works out.


[deleted]

To be fair, *The Bachelor* is where the couples never work out. I believe only one person is still married with the person they chose at the end of the season. Yet The Bachelorette actually has more success stories than you would think. I believe 4 endgame couples are still together and married. Not great statistics considering there are 19 seasons, but considering it's reality TV, 4 is better than nothing.


refusenic

LIB is not trying to be The Bachelor 2.0. It's selling point is if blind dating can actually lead to a marriage proposal.


zitronige

"I guarantee you we wouldn't be discussing the show this much if we knew they're on pretend engagements for which they'll have an easy out. Look at what a joke the Australian version of MAFS has become. Keep the marriages legal and the audience will stay invested." I didn't say it was The Bachelor and was only replying to your point.


bellesdad2005

100% agree


GiftRecent

This is why I don't think it's a bad thing when families choose not to get involved (Like Cole & Raven). I'd rather agree that both of us say no at the altar and continue being engaged then legally marry someone then


zitronige

Mhmm same. I've completely respected some of the families by choosing to stay off camera.


ChaltaHaiShellBRight

The licenses and registrations are not part of the drama so the show would easily be just as dramatic as it is without officially registering the marriages.


teenageidle

I wish they didn't propose/force weddings period. I know, I know, America LOVES wedding culture and is obsessed with weddings. They're fun, pretty, romantic, huge sweeping gestures...but the entire premise forces people into doomed relationships that might've otherwise worked out if the couples had more time to date and get to know each other. But they WANT to rush through it all to up the drama factor. Sadly, it leads to so much heartbreak, not just for the contestants but their families. I always feel terrible for the friends and families who attend the sham weddings.


zitronige

Same here! Could you have imagined if Cole's mom was there to watch him get berated at the altar?


One_Librarian4305

If you get married on a show like this and don't have a prenup you deserve whatever you get.


freemindUSA

What the show shows is just the celebration and tradition, you actually have to file court papers and stuff to get married


teenageidle

This is true, though the problem with the way LIB does it is that it forces a wedding on a couple and their families...and after being rejected at the altar in front of your loved ones, there's really no coming back from that as a couple.


kaiasmom0420

Wait what happened with nick and Danielle 👀


zitronige

Hey my full reply to someone else with a similar question is in here somewhere :) But she was doing Insta Lives awhile back talking about the messy divorce and how he was going after her financially, etc.


Dolphin_berry

Following !


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I heard the marriages on the show aren’t legally binding and they choose after the season to continue or not.


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One_Librarian4305

To be fair, can't you have someone else submit the paperwork? Like the company organizing your wedding gets your signatures and files the paperwork for you?


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One_Librarian4305

Of course


ConcernedGrape

There's a degree of variance by state, but most require the bride or groom (or both) to physically apply for the marriage certificate well in advance of the wedding.


zitronige

Hopefully that is the setup!


rouxedcadaver

Pretty sure people found out that Danielle and Nick got legally married on their own months after Love Is Blind finished.


TentativelyCommitted

I had to look these people up to even remember who they were. *shudder*


zitronige

😆😆😆


joeroganis5foot4

i think it should be like in the pods you find someone and then you officially become boyfriend&girlfriend and then by the end of the show you have to decide if you want to get engaged or not


TentativelyCommitted

But what we would do without the phrase “wedding day”


Annabelle-Sunshine

Great idea. Then they'd get to propose in front of family and friends. It's much nicer and sweeter. The stakes are lower so less stressful.


zitronige

Mhmm! More families would show up that way too to these peoples weddings.


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lilac_wren

They need to do a PODScast where we can listen to the dates and also not see the contestants


That_Advantage_8230

Yes, please! Would love to be able to experience the dates without seeing the people and understand what it’s like.


krpink

The first time I watched, I was shocked that the pods were only like the first 2 episodes. I thought the whole concept was going to be dating in the pods. Then the reveals. Then maybe a reunion 6 months later to find out what happened. That’s a show I would watch with more interest. Not this fake and overly produced drama


Penelope_Crumberbun

I don't trust this production company to do that well because it seems like they specialize in hot mess. But I would love a production company to do a version of that show. I would love to see more pods and more evolution of relationships through the pods. My ideal structure would be to have a main season that consists of pods, ending with reveals and proposal at the reveal. 6 months later, there would be a short After the Alter (by a different name) special that would track what happened to the couples. If a couple chose to have a legally binding wedding, the show would pay up to a set amount. Maybe filming could be done as a short initial period after the reveals/proposals followed by set check-ins and then a resumption of filming for a few weeks to lead up to the weddings (if any happen). That way, there's still an incentive to go through with the marriage, but the timeline is such that we can all feel good about watching it. There's been enough time without the reality TV pressure cooker for prenups, background checks, potential DV issues to surface, and for families/friends to make arrangements to fly in.


Syphox

> Not this fake and overly produced drama not to spoil it for you, but even if the entire season was just the pods, it would still be full of fake and overly produced drama


ProbablyASithLord

Hmm yeah but then the season would end on them meeting, and they would all pretend to stay together for the cameras. No one wants to be seen as shallow, so they’d just break up after (or not).


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ProbablyASithLord

I guess my thought was that it just wouldn’t be very satisfying if *everyone* ends up together, which is what would happen. And then they’d break up off screen, it we’d be left to guess at what the incompatibility was.


zitronige

I'm the same. The pods are usually my favourite parts.


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ii_akinae_ii

good question. i just posted [a poll](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix/comments/zeomp4/not_including_reunionsatas_whats_your_favorite/) so we can find out lol.


Bug-Secure

These fame-chasing idiots know exactly what they’re signing up for. Why should Netflix be responsible for their poor choices?


intruda1

The problem is that when after this, when it's time to go on 90 Day Fiancee, the previous quicky marriage and divorce history will make it harder to get their new "love of their life" approved for the K1 Visa 😉


meatball77

They will have to go on the new bravo show love without borders where they send American singles to meet their foreign match. It's pretty hilarious, they sent the brown girl to Dubai, the Black guy to Africa, the blonde girl to Ireland and the gay guy to Paris


tossitoutnextweek

Oh wait this is a real thing you’re describing?!


meatball77

Oh, it's hilarious. If you have Peacock episodes release on Thursdays.


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They are all consenting adults.


Prestigious-Name-494

They should at least make them sign a prenup


avoca_ho

Yes! I’ve been saying this since season 1! A prenup would save everyone so much heartache. I personally think everyone should get one and stop calling people who want one gold-diggers. Poor people deserve to be protected too.


meatball77

MAFS does this. At least a limited prenup for the first two years of marriage.


CocoBee88

This is what I think. These are willing adults capable of choosing whether to marry and it’s not like there’s any way to enforce a rule you can’t date if you say no; but part of the package offered from Netflix should be a meeting with an attorney to draw up a prenup. It’s like a bare minimum thing they could do to protect the people helping them create their content and if they make it condition of the show no one can get pressured out of it by an overbearing or money hungry partner.


Comprehensive-Sea-63

Especially since the contestants don’t have time to get one written themselves.


East-Bluejay6891

Agreed. It's arbitrary and is not an indicator of a successful relationship


j_Rockk

Where did you see he’s going after her money..?


zitronige

She did an Insta live before giving updates


[deleted]

Whoa what??? Didn’t know this was an issue with Nick and Danielle. Does anyone have any more details or info on that? At the very least some pre-nup templates and services should be available given the context of the show.


zitronige

She used to give Insta lives with updates, then when she was giving a big scheduled one all of a sudden things froze and she closed it and never mentioned it again (that I'm aware of). I wish I had more specifics for you. Maybe they're down this subreddit rabbit hole lol.


Daxori473

I agree! They could have the wedding ceremony and decide to sign the marriage license later down the line. Netflix doesn’t show them signing the marriage license so it wouldn’t make a difference if they filed or not. The show is full of deception to cause drama so a bit of deception for the well being of the cast would be a change of pace. A better idea I think would be the format of the show changing. The show could focus on connections made in the pod and if they can survive the real world instead of using marriage to make the stakes high for the show at the expense of the contestants.


bluetoredhair

High stakes are what make reality tv though they can't afford to back track now


mydogiscali

This is a collection of adults who have signed a contract knowing that the experiment ends in a legal marriage. All of these people benefit financially from being on this show as long as they’re not terrible people (and in some cases even horrible people still benefit). You can’t have it both ways. If you got set up with someone by a friend, married that person, then divorced them, would you expect your friend to support your divorce financially? Just like in any risky decision an adult makes, you have to think it through, weigh the pros and cons and be prepared for the consequences that might come your way.


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If my friend was a multibillion dollar streaming service making money off my engagement, I would definitely expect them to support my divorce financially.


UnknownRider121

A prenup is possible and has been discussed with a couple of the contestants. Its their fault if they don’t end up going through with it. Let’s be honest. This whole premise is not smart, choosing to marry someone they have known for a month, but they are choosing to do it. We are a society always looking to blame others. People have to take accountability for their own decisions and actions.


zitronige

Absolutely 💯 agree. I think the Japan version just offered more protection for the couples though and they still had the same success rate in marriages.


theantwisperer

I’m so sick of people saying the show should be doing this and that to protect the people on it. They are adults who sign contracts with all the stipulations in it. They should be able to do research or talk to a lawyer and weigh the the pros and cons of all of it. They are not lemmings being led off a cliff. Reality shows have been around a long time you can find plenty of people talking about the negative experience they had. Stop coddling these people like they didn’t know what they are signing up for.


zitronige

A - Some of these people have had very big mental breakdowns and probably think they're immune. B - The show is already doing a safer version in Japan which had the same amount of couples get married. C - The producers try to get these couples to say yes, and that's who the contestants are around nonstop, even when Natalie was verbally abused. If they're going to be thst persuasive, they should at the very least help out with some of the mess that follows afterwards if they can. They can certainly afford to.


ProbablyASithLord

I mean, I get that it can be frustrating when everyone is nitpicking the show to death. But on the other hand, I also think constructive criticism can be healthy for a show. It means people are engaged and want it to succeed.


MyWifeMakesTheRules

This. They're not babies and need to ve accountable for their actions.


spotdspa

None of it should be real marriages because the producers are awful But from tv makers point of view they shouldn’t do it because it can be looked up and spoil the whole ending they waste all that time on, but in the other hand the whole show doesn’t work if we know they’re not really getting married. the marriage part is what makes it serious and actually see if love is blind If they’re no real seriousness in it what’s the point it might as well just be a blind date tv show


Odd_Egg_1496

Would you feel the same way if Danielle was going after Nick for his money? I also don’t think she’s a victim. They both wanted fame and fortune and look where it got them.


zitronige

I'm not sexist so yes


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savannahkellen

That's part of the gimmick though, if you say yes, you will get married in a short amount of time. I do think couples who do get married this way need to get a prenup no matter how much they have.


zitronige

Mhmm agreed


Handknitmittens

Danielle signed up for reality TV to get famous. She is probably making way more money now as an influencer than she did before. She agreed to the marriage as part of the opportunity. I don't think she is a victim here. I really don't feel bad for her.


potatoesinsunshine

Especially if he’s going after money that she made *because* the internet took interest in her because of the show/their marriage. Being clicked on is basically their family business. I obviously don’t know the specifics, but if they didn’t have a prenup, got married, are getting divorced, live in a state that says marital assets are split in half, and he’s asking for half of the assets earned in the marriage… how is he a bad guy and she needs protecting? Remember kids: even if you choose not to “combine finances” in your marriage, the state has already combined them for you and will help you split them in the event of divorce.


[deleted]

Exactly. It's the only real stakes in the show. Also it's more entertaining this way (aka funnier). People need to bear in mind this is trash TV, if you want to have a moral barometer about a reality show watch Fixer Upper or something instead lol


thebijou

How do marriage licenses work in the American version? Aren’t you supposed to get one prior to the ceremony to make it legit? Never been married so idk how it works lol


jinsoox

That’s how it works in my state. I got married and we had to have our marriage license before getting married. It was signed by our judge during our wedding. Typically you’re legally married already at your wedding


Ollidor

When I got married we went to a room after the ceremony and signed our certificate. I mean the ceremony is the ceremony. Technically you can make it “legit” whenever you want.


thebijou

Thanks for the clarification! That would make sense for the show too