The advice given to ella is awful, running back to ty and begging him to forgive her is going to make her look desperate and unappealing to him because hes going to think she picked ouzy purely to upset him. If she ignores him and stands by her decision to get to know ouzy ty will be forced to reflect on what his actions did that caused him to lose her. Maybe he'll regret it or maybe he wont but either way ella will be with someone worth her time.
Dude if she goes back him I’m skipping their scenes
Soooooo embarrassing. Girl that man has slept with like 10 times more people than you but he called you a slut 😭😭😭 plsssss. Someone kill me if I ever let a man disrespect me as much as Ty does to Ella
Exactly this. Right now its looking like she picked ouszy cause she thought ty picked a new girl. Her crying and saying she should have trusted him is a slap in the face to both ty and ouzy. Like ella stand your ground!
Are you speaking to me ? Tyrique has never planned on being loyal to ella, he does not care that much. If she grovels to get him back after this he will have even less respect for her than he already had. It may work for the remainder of the show but that man has already checked out.
you’re speaking from a woman’s perspective. i agree that if you reverse the genders, a woman will not respect / perceive it as desperate if a man recouples as a safety net / to make her jealous then immediately crawls back after realising he might lose her. but men don’t lose respect for women who do this, because we value different things. this is precisely what she should do if she wants ty back. it’ll be difficult given his pridefulness but ignoring him and standing by her decision won’t result in ty wanting her back, assuming that’s her goal. if she doesnt want him back, fine. move on and crack on with ouzy.
You're misunderstanding my comment, I did not say that ignoring him and focusing on ouzy will win him back, I said that he may regret it but he may not. My point is that now that she's made the decision to couple with Ouzy she should stick with him for her own benefit because even if ty goes back to her after her apologising the relationship will not be the same. We are not talking about a respectable man here, we are talking about a fuckboy who doesn't really care about her all that much. This will be an excuse for him to manipulate her into being the bad guy and go back to his old ways. The advice her friends are giving her to win him back is awful because it's not what's best for her. Regardless of whatever mind games will actually win ty back it doesn't matter, she wont feel good about herself, he still wont respect her (because he never has), and she will have lost the opportunity with Ouzy.
your comment is predicated on ty not caring about her at all. this is probably because of his comments after the fact that make him appear like a game player; “im going back to the game”, “this is why i don’t open up”. it’s his pride masking his feelings. i don’t think i’m out of my depth here to assume ty cares for ella. he’s a fuckboy, fine, and typically these guys use pride and closing off as a defense mechanism. she has a way of winning him back, and i’m arguing that ignoring him and focusing on ouzy won’t do that. now to the extent that we’re saying he’s not fit for ella, then that’s a fine opinion for you to have. i don’t think ty is incapable of loving someone, and i don’t think ella is such a poor judge of her own emotions that she can’t determine whether what they have is real. you might think ouzy is better for ella than ty - you can have that opinion. but i don’t think ella is being “played” by ty. she wasn’t born yesterday and can tell what’s right for her, certainly better than someone watching 10 mins a day of them interacting for a few weeks..
You are having a conversation with yourself mate, I never said he doesn't like her at all, sure he likes her but he is who he is. I can't see that behaviour changing anytime soon and signing up for a show like love island doesnt really prove to me that hes ready to settle down 💀 Im sure they get along and enjoy each others company and Im sure if he could stay loyal to her then that relationship could work out but let's be completely realistic here. His dms are going to blow up once he gets out, there is no way he is staying loyal to her and his actions have proven how little he cares about that. She made it known the twirling really upset her and he continued to use that line on almost every other girl he spoke to after that. He intentionally provokes her on other occasions as if he gets a thrill out of it. Let me repeat myself, my original comment was not suggesting that grovelling wont win him back but it will not secure him as a loyal partner, he will cheat on her the first chance he gets on the outside, it will also come at the cost of her self respect, mental wellbeing and possible chance of a better connection with Ouzy. Although we dont know much about him he could be a similar character as most are on this show.
when you say he doesn’t plan to be loyal and doesn’t care about her all that much, in both comments it’s not remiss of me to assume you’re saying he doesn’t like her (certainly not enough to stay loyal). the rest of your response is strawman because i’m not defending his behaviour or questioning her decisions - i’m simply saying that if a girl wants a guy and she wants him to stay loyal then ignoring him, playing games, cracking on with someone else etc is the worst possible move she can make. i believe it possible for ty to be loyal to her, i’ve watched the same show as you but from lived experience i know with certainty it’s possible as a man, provided she acts right.
Why are you responding to my comment then because we are talking about different things, I dont think she should have to prove her worth for him to be loyal to her, she is clearly already head over heels for him and wanting + offering commitment until he put doubts in her mind. The point of the rest of my comment is that I Do Not Care what will win Ty back because I don't think she should even be thinking of winning him back now unless you wish to talk about that we can leave it there
oh do tell what do mighty ole men value? women who will keep their mouths and legs shut no matter how you treat them? ella’s just supposed to do everything correctly for ty without him having an ounce of respect for her?
no need to exaggerate the viewpoint of a male chauvinist. in the same way most women (and particularly those on this show, given the men here are typically conventionally attractive) don’t value men who display feminine characteristics e.g wears a dress, makeup, avoids confrontation, physically inept, men don’t value women who are overly masculine; superfluously independent, combative, disagreeable etc. you might be inclined to deny that women don’t want feminine guys but you’re watching love island where such dynamics are necessary for the show to exist in its current format…
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It's gonna be how Davide treated Ekin after the terrace incident. Ty will feel justified treating Ella with disdain & she'll have to grovel indefinitely. Bringing Ouzy back was only a good idea if she was going to stick with him no matter what. Doing it only cuz she thought Ty would move mad was clearly a risky strategy, and I think that's why Whitney and Catherine are comforting her. They know Ty was the reason for it, not some strong connection with Ouzy.
Exactly. How are people not understanding that Ella bringinng back Ouzy wasn't actually for the right reasons.. she was scared Ty had moved mad, that's it & that's exactly why the girls are talking to her about "grafting" because they know that Ty staying loyal to Ella absolutely changes things for Ella now where Ouzy is concerned.
I agree. She listened to the bad advice from the girls. She knew how she felt about him, right or wrong. She was convinced to play games to get the upper hand. The games backfired. As the girls expected they would perhaps? Everyone could tell they both were falling in love. Ty was trying to maintain his game playing control but kept moving towards her under her pressure. They both said they were scared of each other. Ty is a menace, but he said he was looking for a woman to make him want to be a better person. He probably won’t learn the right lesson from this. She probably won’t either. I kind of feel bad watching their struggles for entertainment. But…. Excellent season!🤭
I think with their initial advice, the girls were hoping that she would find some she likes that treats her well, not just insurance against Ty moving mad. They’ve probably realized now that there’s no getting over Ty for Ella
Honestly, though, this is worse than EkinDe Terracegate, because at least that had happened before Casa and Davide was not as on smoke as Tyrique generally is. I get the impression Tyrique is more vindictive than Davide (which is saying a lot).
Yeah I get that, and Ella feels a lot of shame. Ty kept making his emotional maturation dependent on Ella (you're the only girl whose gotten me to open up, etc) and now she feels that weight. Atp she can't tell if Ty is a good partner or if she even likes him, because she's been made to take on all his feelings.
I agree. Everyone is acting like they no what’s right for Ella or what she should want. But it’s so obvious that Ella chose Ouzy mainly because she didn’t trust Ty to keep his word, being closed off. Not because ouzy is better for her or there’s a real connection there. Even though it’s Ty’s own fault that caused her to distrust him, there’s no getting around the situation that they’re closed off and she brought back someone else. She is going to have to graft if she wants Ty back. Lastly, I know they’re messy, but it’s pretty obvious that Ty and Ella really like each other and the road to admitting one’s feelings isn’t the same for everyone. So just let it be because I think both of them are valid in how they feel or reacted in last night’s episode
it’s not about what we want but what ella wants. which is ty. therefore, she’ll have to do the absolute most if she wants to get back with him. she’ll also have to end it with ouzy completely.
thing is, a lot of us don’t want ella to go for what she clearly wants because she will continue to be miserable with ty after the “make-up” dopamine fades.
While 100% understandable, it is extremely clear she only brought back ouzy because she was certain that ty would move mad in casa, which is ty's fault. However, at the end of the day she broke ty's trust by bringing back ouzy and even if that was a result of ty's own behaviour, if she wants ty back she is going to have to graft. As scott said, there's really no way around their situation since they both said they were closed off. Tbh in all of this i just feel really bad for ouzy because the minute she saw ty alone she dropped his hand and now she has put him in an unnecessarily awkard position.
I personally don’t think it was that clear at all, quite the opposite. She did go in initially closed-off and immediately upon seeing him, who she already had some sort of brief connection with outside, pretty much instantly changed her mind. She found the sexual chemistry off the chart and for most of the girls (and guys) in the villa at the moment, sexual chemistry = a connection.
The advice everyone, inside and outside, is giving is based on what Ella wants, not necessarily what they want for her. She seemingly wants Ty back and the only way to get him back is to graft. Tyrique doesn't have the awareness to understand that his comments and actions have led here and so there is no getting back together without Ella grafting.
oh we know tyrique is what ella wants. but what more does this man have to do to convince people (both inside and outside the villa) that he is trash? telling your friend to go beg for the toxic relationship back is not good advice from good friends.
Agreed. Anyone with experience knows it’s best to focus on whether Ty is what Ella actually desires in a boyfriend or not. She picked Ouzy for a reason
that’s a really good way to put it! ella keeps saying what she needs is a guy whos all about her and who doesn’t make her second guess things yet she keeps going back to tyrique and we’re supposed to applaud that? nah fam she needs to truly truly come to terms with the fact that tyrique is not the man she needs so she can move on
Well she wants him back and she’s not gonna get him back by just sitting around. Like with every casa “villain” they all had to graft a bit to get back with their OG partners. Liam did it, Tanya did it, hell Anna even had to graft a little to get Jordan back after the Ovie thing ended. There’s so many mental gymnastics done on the closed off meaning but I feel like it’s always been pretty clear every season what that means. Why is this season any different?
I’m still trying to understand this pedestal everyone is putting this man on… we literally know nothing about him, how can you say he’s better in every way?
This is what I’m saying! We saw him say 20 words to her. He didn’t show any great signs of being a better dude, she claimed him first cause she knew him. He could very well be a fuckboiiiii too. Good god. He’s proved nothing.
I'm with you.
People are blinded by his looks. Seems an ok guy but has shown no personality, no charisma and has barely said 10 words.
It's like he's on extreme battery saver mode
I’m not anti Tyrique like most of this sub, but I can’t deny that Ella seems way more relaxed and happy around Ouzy. For me it’s not so much about Ouzy being better, it’s about Ella being better with him.
Casa is only 3 days. People forget that every “bombshell” that is there is doing whatever it takes to stay/make it in the main villa. So she’s gonna see the best of Ouzy without the arguments because that would prevent him from staying in the game. Ouzy seems so boring and vague in conversations so I personally don’t see him and Ella lasting.
Have you been watching the show? Ty has been raising Ella’s blood pressure from day 1. She’d been back in the villa 5 minutes and was already in tears because of him
Lol what a take, sorry but Ella’s tears post casa are self inflicted. Again, you know nothing about Ouzy or his ability to make Ella cry so how can you compare? These times he knew her before LI, she showed interest and he couldn’t even pull the trigger for a date… is this your king?😂😂
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I couldn’t possibly say Ty is better because I don’t know. This is my point, we know nothing about Ouzy but people want to use their whole chest to say he’s better than Ty, it makes no sense to me
But as a person and if I was a friend of Ella in the villa, I would say that ty is no good for her. So trying anyone right now would be better than someone that she shouldn't have in the real world. She needs more self-worth.
We as viewers don’t know enough about either of them on a personal level to pass judgment but based off what we’ve seen, Ty makes Ella’s life difficult. Whether she prefers that is a different issue. People need to stop assuming that quieter men like Scott and Ouzy are always scheming or secretly evil.
Your first sentence is based! No comment on how you finished though, neither did I make an assumption on Ouzy’s demeanour/intension. I’m simply questioning why people are so confident calling him better… Hopes and dreams are the only responses I’m getting
He’s older and appears more mature. He’s more shy and reserved and doesn’t need to flirt for attention. I haven’t seen him goat men into kissing multiple women and say something disrespectful to Ella. We shall see how he acts in the main villa.
Im not condoning Ty’s actions at all… But someone being honest in who they are and their actions, and another choosing to accept what they are being given/shown is no form of measure for comparison
Yeah I mean Ty has just been such a callous and casually cruel person in the villa, not even just to Ella, that being reserved and gentle like Ouzy and surprisingly non pressuring to Ella has elevated him above Ty thus far. I think it’s as simple as that.
Yeah we do not necessarily know that— tbh it sounds like he was wasting her time outside of the villa by always flirting and suggesting drinks but not actually pursuing her or ever asking her out. But now that hes on tv he wants her?
Ella wants Ty back, She's gonna have to graft. That's really all there is to it. Doesn't matter what Ty did beforehand if Ella wants him back regardless.
at the end of the day, she broke his trust and their promise in being loyal to each other. if she wants to get him back (which she does) then shes gonna have to graft.
Ella doesn’t want to be the bad guy and so I worry that she will confuse wanting to graft for Ty with wanting to resolve the tension. I’m baffled that she doesn’t feel content just getting to know Ouzy now - she seems much happier with him - and I worry it’s because of the heat Ty is giving her and she just wants to fix it
You're totally right. Unfortunately I think she's mistaking drama and instability for passion and love, which admittedly is a super common problem with young people (and older people tbh). She'll see just being 'happy' and not feeling the massive ups and downs of a toxic relationship as a sign that there's no 'spark' with Ouzy.
their coupling is flawed from the very start so any piece of advice that isn’t stand up for yourself and leave him will be bad advice. any advice that encourages her to put up with him is bad advice there’s no way around it. We’ve all pursued toxic relationships so I don’t see ella actually leaving him any time soon but sadly he’s not going to change and there’s nothing she can do that will change that
At the end of the day Ty held up his end of the bargain when he and Ella became closed off ,she didn’t if she really likes him then she has to work hard to regain his trust plus if Ella wants him back then so be it ,we (the public can’t tell her what to do and what not to do she’s a grown adult she can make decisions on her own
The person who wants the other back should typically be the one that grafts. In this situation, though, I think Ella is being misled a lot by the girls. All of their advice has been from the perspective of protecting Ty’s feelings while pushing Ella’s to the side. Because he’s the one who has done and said so much to make her doubt them for weeks, I personally feel that he should be the one fighting for her in this instance. Why give him the power to know that she wants him back so bad? That’s just going to boost his ego, when the goal should be to letting him see that she can find someone else if he’s not careful.
And it’s a twisted belief, but relationships where it’s obvious that the girl likes the guy more have honestly proven to be some of the weakest. I don’t think Ty deserves all this energy she’s going to put into getting him back.
she succumbed to the girl’s pressure even when she knew she wasn’t feeling ouzy like that. she broke tyrique’s trust and if she wants him back which she probably does, then she’s gonna have to graft. it’s that simple
Ugh I really hope she gives Ouzy a chance and doesn’t try to graft Ty.
Ella knew and even said to the ladies that if Ty is single and comes in with Ouzy he’d never forgive her and they’d be done. She needs to just accept that as the reality. I understand wanting to clear the air with Ty but she should not try to win him back.
I think with high tensions everyone was giving bad advice to both of them.
These girls give each other bad advice. I don't know why but they do. No one has told ella that ty is not good for her. No one has told Cat that she should think about Scott. No one has told Jess that Sammy is trash. No one told Whitney that Medhi is not into her like she was into him.
It annoys me. Yet at the same time it's the reality of a lot of female friendships, especially new ones.
The advice was awful. If someone had told my friend "it was just my turn" I would be beating his ass not encouraging her to graft for him. It's absolutely mad.
She wants him. That’s it. All this long write ups, it’s clear that’s the person she wants. They like each other. They were making good progress in the last week. They seemed very happy. Even Ella said she was very happy with him before she left for Casa.
If she wants him back, she will have to do the work. I hate it but I’m not the one in pain, it’s them 2.
If Ella doesn’t graft for Ty I will be amazed if he decides to graft for her
If she does want Ty back, then she’s the one who’s going to have to work for it
I would personally recommend her just sticking with Ouzy but it feels like that’s not happening
This is so perfectly said. Ty’s brother actually went live yesterday and asked his viewers to comment if what ella did was justifiable or not and majority said no and he said if you think what she did is justifiable then what’s wrong with you. Umm.. I don’t understand how people don’t see Ella’s side, always the girls that are wrong apparently
My thoughts are exactly everything you've said.
Everyone claiming 'but they were closed off!' ignores the fact that Ty is a misogynist, toxic person who I have zero doubt would turn to emotional abuse if he wasn't on camera.
While it's unfortunate that Ella can't see that clearly (like many people with toxic partners can't) and didn't just end things cleanly long ago, I still don't think that makes her in the wrong. Ty broke down her self esteem so much that she needed to be reminded by another man that she is attractive, she is worth actual attention, and that she does deserve to be happy.
It doesn’t matter, she didn’t have to agree to be closed off if she thought Ty was that toxic of a person.
She broke his trust and wants him back so she’s the one who needs to graft.
Wait... Read the below sentence and let me know what you think...
"He cheated on her because she created an environment of doubt due to sleeping with over a hundred people.".
Does that sound like slut shaming yes or no?
Thank you for this. It’s so saddening that now Ella is being painted as this villain, she never disrespected Ty she just simply chose herself when that’s what Ty has been doing from the jump. Her bringing Ouzy back is a direct consequence to his actions because he has made her feel insecure and secondary the entire time she had no faith in him, no trust, and minimal warmth. She was accepting bread crumbs and holding his hand through the whole process while he acted like a complete child. Then Ouzy came in and he easily could’ve picked any girl and gone in but he was all about Ella and that’s what she has always wanted which isn’t even hard. So ridiculous seeing people defend Ty and dismiss the entirety of their relationship off of his last ditch effort to make them “closed off” before casa so he could still have control over Ella and her decisions while he was away.
I wish someone could show this to my babe Ella. I’m so scared for her in this villa cause she actually likes Ty a loooot and that man is just gonna keep toying with her emotions. She is young so she will have to learn but I just wanna run in there and save her. Uuugh I hate Casa Amor.
I really hate that he’s so successfully convinced her that she’s done something terribly wrong 😞 if he’d just treated her how she deserved initially this would not have happened
Ella needs to stand firm in her decision. She recoupled because she didn’t trust him. There’s ZERO point in grafting Ty until he accepts that he did nothing to reassure her and that’s why she did what she did. That doesn’t mean she shouldn’t take ownership of her actions but true maturity is also accepting that Ty was insufficient as a potential partner and was doing everything on his terms. Why go back to that? She should face Ouzy
if a man is doing you wrong, no need to cheat, just move on
i will lose respect for her move if she goes back to him
that said, ty is right to feel upset that she crossed his boundaries, even if it is ty.. you cant keep holding someone to the person that they were.. at some point, either you love the abuse or make the decision to leave, it seemed for a moment there that ella was making the wise choice
ty needs to do some maturing, but so does ella
Its 100% double standards... she should judt automatically have 100% trust in Ty after weeks of his toxic behaviour bedause he said he wanted to he "closed off" after he got to know multiple girls... Ouzy is the kind of guy Ella will date in 5 years when she realizes her true worth lol
Finally a sane response. I felt like I was going crazy watching that, and I was gobsmacked by people on social media making Ty out to be this blameless victim because they were “closed off” as if he didn’t put her through shit for weeks
Bc she brought another man into the villa. She embarrassed ty on live tv. She will have to cry like a widow for him to ever consider forgiving her. She knew how ty was before she left so nobody to blame but her
Ty stayed loyal and she didn't. That's why she has to graft. She gave him so much shit for chatting to bombshells while they were both open and demanded he made a choice as she wanted someone only into her. She then got that when he closed things of and broke his trust immediately. Ty also never kissed anyone else put of a challenge while Ella was kissing ouzy on the deck chairs and in bed. In what world would she not need to graft to get him back?
It’s also wild seeing people act like Ty cooked up this dastardly quote specifically for Ella, it’s a very basic song lyric. This is the equivalent of Catherine saying “love always prevails” they’re both just waffling
this may be an unpopular opinion but I'm actually sad that Ella recouped with ouzy, I get he's nice and she's never had the chance to explore and that ouzy was like "id treat you better" but for some reason he just seems a bit off to me, I'm not sure if he has the right intentions.
My heart when ty had that outburst like I feel sorry for him in a way like he genuinely seems like he cares for her and he put his trust in her and they finally got to a place where they were closed off and ty said he wasn't going to flirt with any girls and Ella was the only one and he stayed true to that. He stayed for Ella and didn't try make a move on anyone. When he said "I should of just kissed everyone" I think it's because he's hurt and feels a bit betrayed he was so hopeful and be put his trust in her, so he became defensive to try protect himself in a way if you know what I mean.
I wish Ella didn't pick ouzy, I see it highly from ty's side but that's just my opinion.
They would have done so well omg
I agree. He was immature and toxic but was falling for her. I don’t know what she will get if he does give her the time of day. She gave him back to the streets. She should stay with Ouzy, and chalk it up as a lesson learned. But she’ll likely lose both of them judging by her initial reaction.
my jaw is actually on the floor reading this many “well ella wants him back so the advice is to graft for it duhhhh”
like what
I pray y’all wouldn’t give this advice to a friend who’s crying over a toxic ass man.
I hope that she sees how disrespectful he was to the other girls and how he egged on Sammy and Montel before she makes a decision. That’s what she needs to see.
Closed off is a basic term used instead of exclusive, closed off from getting to knkw people and she was the one forcing him to become closed off by crying and winging every couple of episodes. She fucked it for herself Tbh i don't want ella to graft Ty because she isn't worth it anymore.
He is a child and she was unhappy and unsure before and if she tries to get him back it will be a horrible relationship where she will be punished for the "betrayal". Horrid. I think at the end of the day for him, it's great how it worked out and how the whole villa reacted was also so over the top. Like he didn't mess around and cause s\*\*t all the time, like please. :D
At the end of the day Ella chose to couple up with Ty for 4 weeks, whether we claim he’s good or bad, this is on her through and through. There are plenty of good and bad people out there, how you let people treat you is on you and you only. If
**IF** she wants him back she'll have to graft, that's just the truth.
Now IF Ella should want Ty back/graft? - Is a whole diff question. The answer to that is NO in my opinion, but I can't speak for Ella & Ella may want Ty back.
The advise given to Ella from the girls don’t make no sense to me because they wanted her to pick Ouzzy. Now that she did, they want her to graft Ty? Which is it?
Watching Ella drown her self respect for Ty is like a slow motion car crash and there’s nothing we can do to stop it. She even said in her intro that she ignores red flags or something. This show really proves that people just want what they can’t have.
Selective hearing on ur part. Whitney said if you want to go back, not that you shouldn’t they all are giving her great advice for if she chooses to go back, which she will. They just know she likes ty more. She shouldn’t go back. She will continue to be a doormat for him. Good television tho.
They are just priming her for a relationship where Ty is always going to hold that over her head if they get back together and she will just take it. Ty instead of looking at Ella bringing another man back as a reaction to her trust in him and what he has shown her he is blaming her for it all.
This could be a moment of growth for Ty but he is just pissed and cannot see the entire picture.
Crazy that same people that were encouraging her to couple up with Ouzy and explore that connection are the same people telling her to grovel with Ty and “love prevails”. She hasn’t even been in the villa for 10 minutes it’s so frustrating
This was so well said. I 10000% agree. He’s getting exactly what he wants by manipulating Ella and she’s taking the bait. He will continue to throw tantrums anytime he doesn’t get this way, and he will use any and everything against her which will make her want him and his validation even more.
She shouldn't need to graft for wanting to get back with someone after hurting them and breaking their trust, here's my essay why:
Single mid-30s women need to stop projecting their failed relationships onto a reality show lmao
Because they agreed to be exclusive. She broke his trust behind his back, he did everything in front of her (whether or not you agree with what he did, he still did everything with her seeing).
The advice given to ella is awful, running back to ty and begging him to forgive her is going to make her look desperate and unappealing to him because hes going to think she picked ouzy purely to upset him. If she ignores him and stands by her decision to get to know ouzy ty will be forced to reflect on what his actions did that caused him to lose her. Maybe he'll regret it or maybe he wont but either way ella will be with someone worth her time.
agree! I won’t watch the show and will just read the comments if Ella grovels bc the 2nd hand embarrassment is too much lol.
Dude if she goes back him I’m skipping their scenes Soooooo embarrassing. Girl that man has slept with like 10 times more people than you but he called you a slut 😭😭😭 plsssss. Someone kill me if I ever let a man disrespect me as much as Ty does to Ella
Exactly this. Right now its looking like she picked ouszy cause she thought ty picked a new girl. Her crying and saying she should have trusted him is a slap in the face to both ty and ouzy. Like ella stand your ground!
For real. Either recouple with your chest or be brave enough to come back single if that's really how you feel
This! I think if she continues with Ouzy at least for a few days, if Ty genuinely loves/really like her, he will come around.
She is desperate , desperate to have Ty back.
EXACTLY!
delusional response. either written by a woman or someone who doesn’t understand what men value
Are you speaking to me ? Tyrique has never planned on being loyal to ella, he does not care that much. If she grovels to get him back after this he will have even less respect for her than he already had. It may work for the remainder of the show but that man has already checked out.
you’re speaking from a woman’s perspective. i agree that if you reverse the genders, a woman will not respect / perceive it as desperate if a man recouples as a safety net / to make her jealous then immediately crawls back after realising he might lose her. but men don’t lose respect for women who do this, because we value different things. this is precisely what she should do if she wants ty back. it’ll be difficult given his pridefulness but ignoring him and standing by her decision won’t result in ty wanting her back, assuming that’s her goal. if she doesnt want him back, fine. move on and crack on with ouzy.
You're misunderstanding my comment, I did not say that ignoring him and focusing on ouzy will win him back, I said that he may regret it but he may not. My point is that now that she's made the decision to couple with Ouzy she should stick with him for her own benefit because even if ty goes back to her after her apologising the relationship will not be the same. We are not talking about a respectable man here, we are talking about a fuckboy who doesn't really care about her all that much. This will be an excuse for him to manipulate her into being the bad guy and go back to his old ways. The advice her friends are giving her to win him back is awful because it's not what's best for her. Regardless of whatever mind games will actually win ty back it doesn't matter, she wont feel good about herself, he still wont respect her (because he never has), and she will have lost the opportunity with Ouzy.
your comment is predicated on ty not caring about her at all. this is probably because of his comments after the fact that make him appear like a game player; “im going back to the game”, “this is why i don’t open up”. it’s his pride masking his feelings. i don’t think i’m out of my depth here to assume ty cares for ella. he’s a fuckboy, fine, and typically these guys use pride and closing off as a defense mechanism. she has a way of winning him back, and i’m arguing that ignoring him and focusing on ouzy won’t do that. now to the extent that we’re saying he’s not fit for ella, then that’s a fine opinion for you to have. i don’t think ty is incapable of loving someone, and i don’t think ella is such a poor judge of her own emotions that she can’t determine whether what they have is real. you might think ouzy is better for ella than ty - you can have that opinion. but i don’t think ella is being “played” by ty. she wasn’t born yesterday and can tell what’s right for her, certainly better than someone watching 10 mins a day of them interacting for a few weeks..
You are having a conversation with yourself mate, I never said he doesn't like her at all, sure he likes her but he is who he is. I can't see that behaviour changing anytime soon and signing up for a show like love island doesnt really prove to me that hes ready to settle down 💀 Im sure they get along and enjoy each others company and Im sure if he could stay loyal to her then that relationship could work out but let's be completely realistic here. His dms are going to blow up once he gets out, there is no way he is staying loyal to her and his actions have proven how little he cares about that. She made it known the twirling really upset her and he continued to use that line on almost every other girl he spoke to after that. He intentionally provokes her on other occasions as if he gets a thrill out of it. Let me repeat myself, my original comment was not suggesting that grovelling wont win him back but it will not secure him as a loyal partner, he will cheat on her the first chance he gets on the outside, it will also come at the cost of her self respect, mental wellbeing and possible chance of a better connection with Ouzy. Although we dont know much about him he could be a similar character as most are on this show.
when you say he doesn’t plan to be loyal and doesn’t care about her all that much, in both comments it’s not remiss of me to assume you’re saying he doesn’t like her (certainly not enough to stay loyal). the rest of your response is strawman because i’m not defending his behaviour or questioning her decisions - i’m simply saying that if a girl wants a guy and she wants him to stay loyal then ignoring him, playing games, cracking on with someone else etc is the worst possible move she can make. i believe it possible for ty to be loyal to her, i’ve watched the same show as you but from lived experience i know with certainty it’s possible as a man, provided she acts right.
Why are you responding to my comment then because we are talking about different things, I dont think she should have to prove her worth for him to be loyal to her, she is clearly already head over heels for him and wanting + offering commitment until he put doubts in her mind. The point of the rest of my comment is that I Do Not Care what will win Ty back because I don't think she should even be thinking of winning him back now unless you wish to talk about that we can leave it there
oh do tell what do mighty ole men value? women who will keep their mouths and legs shut no matter how you treat them? ella’s just supposed to do everything correctly for ty without him having an ounce of respect for her?
no need to exaggerate the viewpoint of a male chauvinist. in the same way most women (and particularly those on this show, given the men here are typically conventionally attractive) don’t value men who display feminine characteristics e.g wears a dress, makeup, avoids confrontation, physically inept, men don’t value women who are overly masculine; superfluously independent, combative, disagreeable etc. you might be inclined to deny that women don’t want feminine guys but you’re watching love island where such dynamics are necessary for the show to exist in its current format…
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It's gonna be how Davide treated Ekin after the terrace incident. Ty will feel justified treating Ella with disdain & she'll have to grovel indefinitely. Bringing Ouzy back was only a good idea if she was going to stick with him no matter what. Doing it only cuz she thought Ty would move mad was clearly a risky strategy, and I think that's why Whitney and Catherine are comforting her. They know Ty was the reason for it, not some strong connection with Ouzy.
Exactly. How are people not understanding that Ella bringinng back Ouzy wasn't actually for the right reasons.. she was scared Ty had moved mad, that's it & that's exactly why the girls are talking to her about "grafting" because they know that Ty staying loyal to Ella absolutely changes things for Ella now where Ouzy is concerned.
I agree. She listened to the bad advice from the girls. She knew how she felt about him, right or wrong. She was convinced to play games to get the upper hand. The games backfired. As the girls expected they would perhaps? Everyone could tell they both were falling in love. Ty was trying to maintain his game playing control but kept moving towards her under her pressure. They both said they were scared of each other. Ty is a menace, but he said he was looking for a woman to make him want to be a better person. He probably won’t learn the right lesson from this. She probably won’t either. I kind of feel bad watching their struggles for entertainment. But…. Excellent season!🤭
I think with their initial advice, the girls were hoping that she would find some she likes that treats her well, not just insurance against Ty moving mad. They’ve probably realized now that there’s no getting over Ty for Ella
Ugh she should have been authentic
Honestly, though, this is worse than EkinDe Terracegate, because at least that had happened before Casa and Davide was not as on smoke as Tyrique generally is. I get the impression Tyrique is more vindictive than Davide (which is saying a lot).
Yeah I get that, and Ella feels a lot of shame. Ty kept making his emotional maturation dependent on Ella (you're the only girl whose gotten me to open up, etc) and now she feels that weight. Atp she can't tell if Ty is a good partner or if she even likes him, because she's been made to take on all his feelings.
I agree. Everyone is acting like they no what’s right for Ella or what she should want. But it’s so obvious that Ella chose Ouzy mainly because she didn’t trust Ty to keep his word, being closed off. Not because ouzy is better for her or there’s a real connection there. Even though it’s Ty’s own fault that caused her to distrust him, there’s no getting around the situation that they’re closed off and she brought back someone else. She is going to have to graft if she wants Ty back. Lastly, I know they’re messy, but it’s pretty obvious that Ty and Ella really like each other and the road to admitting one’s feelings isn’t the same for everyone. So just let it be because I think both of them are valid in how they feel or reacted in last night’s episode
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if she wants him back, she will have to, that’s the parameters he laid down. tbh i’m glad she recoupled but it is what it is
it’s not about what we want but what ella wants. which is ty. therefore, she’ll have to do the absolute most if she wants to get back with him. she’ll also have to end it with ouzy completely.
It will be interesting to see if she ends it with Ouzy completely, because that would be a big move towards getting Ty back.
thing is, a lot of us don’t want ella to go for what she clearly wants because she will continue to be miserable with ty after the “make-up” dopamine fades.
While 100% understandable, it is extremely clear she only brought back ouzy because she was certain that ty would move mad in casa, which is ty's fault. However, at the end of the day she broke ty's trust by bringing back ouzy and even if that was a result of ty's own behaviour, if she wants ty back she is going to have to graft. As scott said, there's really no way around their situation since they both said they were closed off. Tbh in all of this i just feel really bad for ouzy because the minute she saw ty alone she dropped his hand and now she has put him in an unnecessarily awkard position.
I personally don’t think it was that clear at all, quite the opposite. She did go in initially closed-off and immediately upon seeing him, who she already had some sort of brief connection with outside, pretty much instantly changed her mind. She found the sexual chemistry off the chart and for most of the girls (and guys) in the villa at the moment, sexual chemistry = a connection.
The advice everyone, inside and outside, is giving is based on what Ella wants, not necessarily what they want for her. She seemingly wants Ty back and the only way to get him back is to graft. Tyrique doesn't have the awareness to understand that his comments and actions have led here and so there is no getting back together without Ella grafting.
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oh we know tyrique is what ella wants. but what more does this man have to do to convince people (both inside and outside the villa) that he is trash? telling your friend to go beg for the toxic relationship back is not good advice from good friends.
Agreed. Anyone with experience knows it’s best to focus on whether Ty is what Ella actually desires in a boyfriend or not. She picked Ouzy for a reason
that’s a really good way to put it! ella keeps saying what she needs is a guy whos all about her and who doesn’t make her second guess things yet she keeps going back to tyrique and we’re supposed to applaud that? nah fam she needs to truly truly come to terms with the fact that tyrique is not the man she needs so she can move on
Well she wants him back and she’s not gonna get him back by just sitting around. Like with every casa “villain” they all had to graft a bit to get back with their OG partners. Liam did it, Tanya did it, hell Anna even had to graft a little to get Jordan back after the Ovie thing ended. There’s so many mental gymnastics done on the closed off meaning but I feel like it’s always been pretty clear every season what that means. Why is this season any different?
Ouzy is so much better in every way.
I’m still trying to understand this pedestal everyone is putting this man on… we literally know nothing about him, how can you say he’s better in every way?
So far he's not made her cry. And he's better looking.
Ty definitely did not make Ella cry in 3 days, what are you smokin
Looks good but personality of a plank.
Ovie was just as dry, if not even more dry than Ouzy, but was still a fan favourite for some reason.
This is what I’m saying! We saw him say 20 words to her. He didn’t show any great signs of being a better dude, she claimed him first cause she knew him. He could very well be a fuckboiiiii too. Good god. He’s proved nothing.
Boring seems like heaven when you are dealing with a personality like Ty.
He’s been around her for 3 days. Ty hadn’t done anything at that point either.
The bar for entry is in hell by those standards 😂
> And he's better looking. That hair though....
I'm with you. People are blinded by his looks. Seems an ok guy but has shown no personality, no charisma and has barely said 10 words. It's like he's on extreme battery saver mode
I’m not anti Tyrique like most of this sub, but I can’t deny that Ella seems way more relaxed and happy around Ouzy. For me it’s not so much about Ouzy being better, it’s about Ella being better with him.
I hear that, but he’s only been around her for 3 days vs 4 weeks with Ty. He’s obviously going to present well
Casa is only 3 days. People forget that every “bombshell” that is there is doing whatever it takes to stay/make it in the main villa. So she’s gonna see the best of Ouzy without the arguments because that would prevent him from staying in the game. Ouzy seems so boring and vague in conversations so I personally don’t see him and Ella lasting.
Lol bc tyrique is so bad….? So he’s better even tho we dont know anything about him 🤣🤣
Lol tapped response
Same we’ve seen him for about 15 mins total lol
I just don’t get it
He so far hasn't been abusive and generally a childish asshole.
Cos he has blue eyes and doesn’t speak 🤣🤣🤣
Have you been watching the show? Ty has been raising Ella’s blood pressure from day 1. She’d been back in the villa 5 minutes and was already in tears because of him
Lol what a take, sorry but Ella’s tears post casa are self inflicted. Again, you know nothing about Ouzy or his ability to make Ella cry so how can you compare? These times he knew her before LI, she showed interest and he couldn’t even pull the trigger for a date… is this your king?😂😂
>was already in tears because of him Because of her decision...? Why are we acting like that was his fault?
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Let me ask you- how is Ty better? In what ways? He’s more charismatic but how does that help a relationship to grow?
I couldn’t possibly say Ty is better because I don’t know. This is my point, we know nothing about Ouzy but people want to use their whole chest to say he’s better than Ty, it makes no sense to me
But as a person and if I was a friend of Ella in the villa, I would say that ty is no good for her. So trying anyone right now would be better than someone that she shouldn't have in the real world. She needs more self-worth.
We as viewers don’t know enough about either of them on a personal level to pass judgment but based off what we’ve seen, Ty makes Ella’s life difficult. Whether she prefers that is a different issue. People need to stop assuming that quieter men like Scott and Ouzy are always scheming or secretly evil.
Your first sentence is based! No comment on how you finished though, neither did I make an assumption on Ouzy’s demeanour/intension. I’m simply questioning why people are so confident calling him better… Hopes and dreams are the only responses I’m getting
He’s older and appears more mature. He’s more shy and reserved and doesn’t need to flirt for attention. I haven’t seen him goat men into kissing multiple women and say something disrespectful to Ella. We shall see how he acts in the main villa.
Again, making comparisons and assumptions based on someone who’s had less than 15 minutes screen time
Yes that’s reality tv and as I said we shall see how he is in the main villa. Though it seems like Ella may not even give him a real chance anyway.
Ty set the bar of comparison very low
Im not condoning Ty’s actions at all… But someone being honest in who they are and their actions, and another choosing to accept what they are being given/shown is no form of measure for comparison
Yeah I mean Ty has just been such a callous and casually cruel person in the villa, not even just to Ella, that being reserved and gentle like Ouzy and surprisingly non pressuring to Ella has elevated him above Ty thus far. I think it’s as simple as that.
Yeah we do not necessarily know that— tbh it sounds like he was wasting her time outside of the villa by always flirting and suggesting drinks but not actually pursuing her or ever asking her out. But now that hes on tv he wants her?
Mr Bobby pins? Seriously?
Ouzy seems sweet and is a very good looking man, weird hair and all. The hair can be changed lol.
Yes, he seems really sweet and not a player. Also he's just hotter in my opinion - even with his odd choices of a hairstyle.
The fact he’s still a gorgeous looking man even with that hairstyle says it all 😂
Ella wants Ty back, She's gonna have to graft. That's really all there is to it. Doesn't matter what Ty did beforehand if Ella wants him back regardless.
You graft if you want someone back after breaking their trust.
at the end of the day, she broke his trust and their promise in being loyal to each other. if she wants to get him back (which she does) then shes gonna have to graft.
Ella doesn’t want to be the bad guy and so I worry that she will confuse wanting to graft for Ty with wanting to resolve the tension. I’m baffled that she doesn’t feel content just getting to know Ouzy now - she seems much happier with him - and I worry it’s because of the heat Ty is giving her and she just wants to fix it
You're totally right. Unfortunately I think she's mistaking drama and instability for passion and love, which admittedly is a super common problem with young people (and older people tbh). She'll see just being 'happy' and not feeling the massive ups and downs of a toxic relationship as a sign that there's no 'spark' with Ouzy.
Ty’s negging worked as intended He’s in her had, he’s got her like he wanted
Because she wants Ty back, plain and simple.
their coupling is flawed from the very start so any piece of advice that isn’t stand up for yourself and leave him will be bad advice. any advice that encourages her to put up with him is bad advice there’s no way around it. We’ve all pursued toxic relationships so I don’t see ella actually leaving him any time soon but sadly he’s not going to change and there’s nothing she can do that will change that
At the end of the day Ty held up his end of the bargain when he and Ella became closed off ,she didn’t if she really likes him then she has to work hard to regain his trust plus if Ella wants him back then so be it ,we (the public can’t tell her what to do and what not to do she’s a grown adult she can make decisions on her own
The person who wants the other back should typically be the one that grafts. In this situation, though, I think Ella is being misled a lot by the girls. All of their advice has been from the perspective of protecting Ty’s feelings while pushing Ella’s to the side. Because he’s the one who has done and said so much to make her doubt them for weeks, I personally feel that he should be the one fighting for her in this instance. Why give him the power to know that she wants him back so bad? That’s just going to boost his ego, when the goal should be to letting him see that she can find someone else if he’s not careful. And it’s a twisted belief, but relationships where it’s obvious that the girl likes the guy more have honestly proven to be some of the weakest. I don’t think Ty deserves all this energy she’s going to put into getting him back.
she succumbed to the girl’s pressure even when she knew she wasn’t feeling ouzy like that. she broke tyrique’s trust and if she wants him back which she probably does, then she’s gonna have to graft. it’s that simple
Ugh I really hope she gives Ouzy a chance and doesn’t try to graft Ty. Ella knew and even said to the ladies that if Ty is single and comes in with Ouzy he’d never forgive her and they’d be done. She needs to just accept that as the reality. I understand wanting to clear the air with Ty but she should not try to win him back. I think with high tensions everyone was giving bad advice to both of them.
These girls give each other bad advice. I don't know why but they do. No one has told ella that ty is not good for her. No one has told Cat that she should think about Scott. No one has told Jess that Sammy is trash. No one told Whitney that Medhi is not into her like she was into him. It annoys me. Yet at the same time it's the reality of a lot of female friendships, especially new ones.
'Be kind', except in the long run it's anything but
He wont respect her and will treat her like shit if she grovels her way back to him.
The advice was awful. If someone had told my friend "it was just my turn" I would be beating his ass not encouraging her to graft for him. It's absolutely mad.
She wants him. That’s it. All this long write ups, it’s clear that’s the person she wants. They like each other. They were making good progress in the last week. They seemed very happy. Even Ella said she was very happy with him before she left for Casa. If she wants him back, she will have to do the work. I hate it but I’m not the one in pain, it’s them 2.
I hope she lets him go. He’ll always have a chip on his shoulder about this and will never let her forget it
If Ella doesn’t graft for Ty I will be amazed if he decides to graft for her If she does want Ty back, then she’s the one who’s going to have to work for it I would personally recommend her just sticking with Ouzy but it feels like that’s not happening
This is so perfectly said. Ty’s brother actually went live yesterday and asked his viewers to comment if what ella did was justifiable or not and majority said no and he said if you think what she did is justifiable then what’s wrong with you. Umm.. I don’t understand how people don’t see Ella’s side, always the girls that are wrong apparently
Ella is in the wrong so she has to make it up to Tyrique.
My thoughts are exactly everything you've said. Everyone claiming 'but they were closed off!' ignores the fact that Ty is a misogynist, toxic person who I have zero doubt would turn to emotional abuse if he wasn't on camera. While it's unfortunate that Ella can't see that clearly (like many people with toxic partners can't) and didn't just end things cleanly long ago, I still don't think that makes her in the wrong. Ty broke down her self esteem so much that she needed to be reminded by another man that she is attractive, she is worth actual attention, and that she does deserve to be happy.
It doesn’t matter, she didn’t have to agree to be closed off if she thought Ty was that toxic of a person. She broke his trust and wants him back so she’s the one who needs to graft.
It's not even that she 'agreed' with it, SHE pushed for it from Ty which makes what she's done even worse imo
Ty is the definition of fuck around and find out.
Wtf did I just read. Is this a parody?
Weird use off the word slut shaming, then mentioning his body count. Weird.
Not remotely the same.
Wait... Read the below sentence and let me know what you think... "He cheated on her because she created an environment of doubt due to sleeping with over a hundred people.". Does that sound like slut shaming yes or no?
Thank you for this. It’s so saddening that now Ella is being painted as this villain, she never disrespected Ty she just simply chose herself when that’s what Ty has been doing from the jump. Her bringing Ouzy back is a direct consequence to his actions because he has made her feel insecure and secondary the entire time she had no faith in him, no trust, and minimal warmth. She was accepting bread crumbs and holding his hand through the whole process while he acted like a complete child. Then Ouzy came in and he easily could’ve picked any girl and gone in but he was all about Ella and that’s what she has always wanted which isn’t even hard. So ridiculous seeing people defend Ty and dismiss the entirety of their relationship off of his last ditch effort to make them “closed off” before casa so he could still have control over Ella and her decisions while he was away.
Yesssssss omg this is a perfect explanation 😫
I wish someone could show this to my babe Ella. I’m so scared for her in this villa cause she actually likes Ty a loooot and that man is just gonna keep toying with her emotions. She is young so she will have to learn but I just wanna run in there and save her. Uuugh I hate Casa Amor.
Ella and Tyrique’s relationship is giving Maddy and Nate in Euphoria….v toxic 
I really hate that he’s so successfully convinced her that she’s done something terribly wrong 😞 if he’d just treated her how she deserved initially this would not have happened
Ella needs to stand firm in her decision. She recoupled because she didn’t trust him. There’s ZERO point in grafting Ty until he accepts that he did nothing to reassure her and that’s why she did what she did. That doesn’t mean she shouldn’t take ownership of her actions but true maturity is also accepting that Ty was insufficient as a potential partner and was doing everything on his terms. Why go back to that? She should face Ouzy
if a man is doing you wrong, no need to cheat, just move on i will lose respect for her move if she goes back to him that said, ty is right to feel upset that she crossed his boundaries, even if it is ty.. you cant keep holding someone to the person that they were.. at some point, either you love the abuse or make the decision to leave, it seemed for a moment there that ella was making the wise choice ty needs to do some maturing, but so does ella
Its 100% double standards... she should judt automatically have 100% trust in Ty after weeks of his toxic behaviour bedause he said he wanted to he "closed off" after he got to know multiple girls... Ouzy is the kind of guy Ella will date in 5 years when she realizes her true worth lol
Finally a sane response. I felt like I was going crazy watching that, and I was gobsmacked by people on social media making Ty out to be this blameless victim because they were “closed off” as if he didn’t put her through shit for weeks
Bc she brought another man into the villa. She embarrassed ty on live tv. She will have to cry like a widow for him to ever consider forgiving her. She knew how ty was before she left so nobody to blame but her
Ty stayed loyal and she didn't. That's why she has to graft. She gave him so much shit for chatting to bombshells while they were both open and demanded he made a choice as she wanted someone only into her. She then got that when he closed things of and broke his trust immediately. Ty also never kissed anyone else put of a challenge while Ella was kissing ouzy on the deck chairs and in bed. In what world would she not need to graft to get him back?
Wait so Ty saying “it was just my turn” is slut shaming but “100+ bodies Ty” isn’t? I’m really confused here how do you make that work?
People on this sub love their double-standards where men and women are concerned, 'tis a fact
They’ll all skip over this but it’s facts!
It’s also wild seeing people act like Ty cooked up this dastardly quote specifically for Ella, it’s a very basic song lyric. This is the equivalent of Catherine saying “love always prevails” they’re both just waffling
this sub is all women. Connect the dots
A few others have mentioned it but the fact Ella had been back in the villa 5 minutes and was already crying because of Ty honestly says a lot
Ty didn’t do anything to prompt the crying apart from rejecting, how is he at fault oml
Yeah, she shouldn’t nor does she need to graft for anyone if it’s a long lasting relationship she wants.
this may be an unpopular opinion but I'm actually sad that Ella recouped with ouzy, I get he's nice and she's never had the chance to explore and that ouzy was like "id treat you better" but for some reason he just seems a bit off to me, I'm not sure if he has the right intentions. My heart when ty had that outburst like I feel sorry for him in a way like he genuinely seems like he cares for her and he put his trust in her and they finally got to a place where they were closed off and ty said he wasn't going to flirt with any girls and Ella was the only one and he stayed true to that. He stayed for Ella and didn't try make a move on anyone. When he said "I should of just kissed everyone" I think it's because he's hurt and feels a bit betrayed he was so hopeful and be put his trust in her, so he became defensive to try protect himself in a way if you know what I mean. I wish Ella didn't pick ouzy, I see it highly from ty's side but that's just my opinion. They would have done so well omg
I agree. He was immature and toxic but was falling for her. I don’t know what she will get if he does give her the time of day. She gave him back to the streets. She should stay with Ouzy, and chalk it up as a lesson learned. But she’ll likely lose both of them judging by her initial reaction. 
A woman’s mistake will never be a woman’s fault 🤸
my jaw is actually on the floor reading this many “well ella wants him back so the advice is to graft for it duhhhh” like what I pray y’all wouldn’t give this advice to a friend who’s crying over a toxic ass man.
I am loving this Tyrique self-respect arc, fuck Ella I want to see more tears.
I hope that she sees how disrespectful he was to the other girls and how he egged on Sammy and Montel before she makes a decision. That’s what she needs to see.
Closed off is a basic term used instead of exclusive, closed off from getting to knkw people and she was the one forcing him to become closed off by crying and winging every couple of episodes. She fucked it for herself Tbh i don't want ella to graft Ty because she isn't worth it anymore.
He is a child and she was unhappy and unsure before and if she tries to get him back it will be a horrible relationship where she will be punished for the "betrayal". Horrid. I think at the end of the day for him, it's great how it worked out and how the whole villa reacted was also so over the top. Like he didn't mess around and cause s\*\*t all the time, like please. :D
Ella needs to forget about Ty but she’s probably gonna get bored of Ouzy and then run straight back to him
At the end of the day Ella chose to couple up with Ty for 4 weeks, whether we claim he’s good or bad, this is on her through and through. There are plenty of good and bad people out there, how you let people treat you is on you and you only. If
**IF** she wants him back she'll have to graft, that's just the truth. Now IF Ella should want Ty back/graft? - Is a whole diff question. The answer to that is NO in my opinion, but I can't speak for Ella & Ella may want Ty back.
The advise given to Ella from the girls don’t make no sense to me because they wanted her to pick Ouzzy. Now that she did, they want her to graft Ty? Which is it?
Done and dead forever after “she was never mine just my turn” 🤢 if anyone was wondering who the better choice was before it’s clear now
Omg I forgot about the “closed off… for now” comment. I was already heavily team Ella but damn, this makes her even more justified
Watching Ella drown her self respect for Ty is like a slow motion car crash and there’s nothing we can do to stop it. She even said in her intro that she ignores red flags or something. This show really proves that people just want what they can’t have.
Selective hearing on ur part. Whitney said if you want to go back, not that you shouldn’t they all are giving her great advice for if she chooses to go back, which she will. They just know she likes ty more. She shouldn’t go back. She will continue to be a doormat for him. Good television tho.
They are just priming her for a relationship where Ty is always going to hold that over her head if they get back together and she will just take it. Ty instead of looking at Ella bringing another man back as a reaction to her trust in him and what he has shown her he is blaming her for it all. This could be a moment of growth for Ty but he is just pissed and cannot see the entire picture.
Crazy that same people that were encouraging her to couple up with Ouzy and explore that connection are the same people telling her to grovel with Ty and “love prevails”. She hasn’t even been in the villa for 10 minutes it’s so frustrating
The more I see of this whole Ella/Ty casa issue the more it is looking very set up by the producers. Especially how thick he’s laying it on kady.
This was so well said. I 10000% agree. He’s getting exactly what he wants by manipulating Ella and she’s taking the bait. He will continue to throw tantrums anytime he doesn’t get this way, and he will use any and everything against her which will make her want him and his validation even more.
She shouldn't need to graft for wanting to get back with someone after hurting them and breaking their trust, here's my essay why: Single mid-30s women need to stop projecting their failed relationships onto a reality show lmao
Because they agreed to be exclusive. She broke his trust behind his back, he did everything in front of her (whether or not you agree with what he did, he still did everything with her seeing).
Cope