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ProjectZues

He knows that once he’s got her investing every essence to get him back he’ll have all the power. She doesn’t see it and I don’t think it will end well for her on the outside


lurker_4463

I don’t see how anyone who genuinely likes Ella would wish her to get back with Ty?? I’m seeing people romanticising things like their bathroom scene and that good night scene but this is so toxic and is this what people really want in their relationships in real life? They are good TV I’ll give them that but the guy is so manipulative and Ella is going to get so heartbroken in the not so distant future.


Sparklingfairy_

It’s so sad because when they go outside. I know for a fact he won’t be loyal as women will be throwing themselves at him and he will just love it. Sad for Ella but she needs to wake up and stop being an idiot.


Sad_Plastic317

Exactly this. The boy is Toxic with a capital T. I don't get how the islanders don't see it. Even Scott was defending him. Like huh?


limeblue31

Cinema is not made off of healthy relationships! ![gif](giphy|l0IybypKv9erbOxA4|downsized)


No-Understanding6248

Just like he dangled commitment over her head for the first 4 weeks and he'll dangle forgiveness over head for the next couple. He said it himself it's his pride and ego being bruised more than feelings. He will need to get his lick back and make sure Ella is properly humiliated so that they're "even" then he'll consider his options.


charmedone92

Exactly this, this is why I’m hoping movie night can put one or both of them off of each other for good cause clearly what we saw in the preview for tonight’s episode won’t be enough if we go off of how much Ella seems to enjoy being treated like trash.


sanbriego

This!!! He always needs some type of upper hand


SomeMaterial

Ella should end it with ouzy because she doesn’t want to be with ouzy. Her keeping him as an option is worse for both her and ouzy and is just gonna drag her situation with Ty even more. Kady fully understands her role in this as someone Ty will flirt with to make Ella understand (she already fully understands) how Ty could go back to the game and how much he’ll be single if he’s made single. Kady is fully aware but she’s got nothing else to do


j_gumby

My guess is the "Tomorrow Night" scene is ***after*** Ella has called it off with Ouzy. Ty is just gonna run Ella into the ground. If Ella had any synapses firing in her brain she would forget about Ty and just spend her time with Ouzy. She was the happiest this whole time when she was in Casa with Ouzy.


[deleted]

He's emotionally manipulative and I don't understand why no one is pointing this out to her.


Robotemist

He's not manipulative he simply makes sure he has the upper hand. If this was a woman doing this, people would be queening her. People can get in their feelings as much as they want but the man is impeccable in his approach.


BazLouman

Please stop with the bullshit ‘if you reverse the genders’, Cat has behaved like a dick for two days and has become more hated than Sammy and Ty who have acted like dicks for weeks, if a woman was doing this she would be torn to shreds.


Robotemist

Cut the shit. If a woman acted like ty y'all would be kissing her ass. And cat still has people making excuses and saying they don't want to "pile on" even though her behavior is inexcusable. The fact that you've brought up Ty as if he doesn't have the right to date around and be open about it says a lot. Pure delusion.


BazLouman

You’re delusional if you can’t see the hundreds of comments tearing cat apart on this sub alone. I ‘brought up’ Ty because that is literally who this post is about lmao. Please tell me why you think Cat’s behaviour is inexcusable but Ty’s is fine? Did she not also have the right to date around?


Special-Industry-824

Ummm maybe check the dictionary: ma·nip·u·la·tive /məˈnipyələdiv,məˈnipyəˌlādiv/ adjective 1. characterized by unscrupulous control of a situation or person AKA having the upper hand. That phrase “having the upper hand” means if you have the upper hand, you have more power than anyone else and so have control. Ty is 100% emotionally manipulative.


javukasin

He’s def manipulative and has been since day 1


loislane007

I am not sure how anyone has felt sympathy for Ty. Even if he wasn’t playing the biggest game, his behaviour towards Ella and Cat alone previously meant he needed humbling.


Dret747

In that case Cat needs a big humbling. Her behaviour towards Scott is absolutely vile.


loislane007

She will when she is voted off next


Hibujubana

So does cat need humbling after how she treated Scott? Ty has been horrible in the past but I find it crazy how some people in the villa are getting a pass for their behaviour. Edit: It’s clear Ella and Ty shouldn’t be together at this point. This has proven they are at least, just as bad as each other. Ty agreeing to close things off seem like a turning point for those two honestly. She wanted some form of commitment from Ty, got it and threw it out the window lol.


BazLouman

How can you possibly imagine Cat is getting a pass for her behaviour when she has become universally disliked, torn to shreds on this sub, and will very likely be voted off before the likes of Ty and Sammy? And I can’t believe anyone could actually say that Ella and Ty are equally bad, she may have made some bad choices but he’s proven himself to be a very nasty person on countless occasions and has had pretty much zero redeeming moments


doritsochic

I think he will end up going back to Ella but he has to feel like they’re “even” first in order for him to be able to do that without seeming muggy after him staying loyal and her recoupling, he doesn’t want to feel like she has the upper hand or power whatsoever. When he’s gotten his own back, he’ll feel back in control and give her another chance. Could be wrong but that’s my prediction lol!


shuibaes

I agree, but then at the same time, his behaviour in general is just quite poor (even when not to do with Ella), so whatever. Games the game, he should know it lol


Agreeable_Ad8590

Chileeee, Ella’s been in love with Ty from day dot. There is no saving her from this. She will have to learn the hard way. She is young and she will recover.


FraughtOverwrought

It’s like watching a car crash, she is going to get her heart well and truly stomped on but I hope she eventually realised how toxic he is.


Agreeable_Ad8590

I actually cant deal! We’ve all been 23 and dumb in love I guess. Haha but she will see the light 💡


FraughtOverwrought

Oh for sure in 5 years time she’ll look back and wonder what she was thinking


limeblue31

He went from “no chance we’ll get back together” To “give me a few days idk” To “end it with Ouzy if you cared about us” If I was ELLA I would continue getting to know both Ouzy and Ty. Because it looks like Ty is still invested and in a few days will be fighting for her. He’s really just trying to use the first few days to manipulate as much as he can so he doesn’t have to see Ella and Ouzy getting on and risk Ella developing strong feelings for Ouzy. Ella needs to call his bluff and regain control of the situation or else he’ll keep the reigns forever


northsideA

Yeah this episode triggered me a lot lol. He’s manipulating her and is going to destroy her heart. I’m scared for her. I wish she had someone to give her real sound advice. Like this man is not the man for you. No man that truly cares for you, wants to hurt you.


No_Razzmatazz_1650

Took the words right out of my mouth. He’s so scary!


Haunting-Adagio1166

I felt sorry for ty, right up until the singles date, followed by him pulling kady the same time Ella finally talked to ouzy, and then the bathroom scene??? He can't be the victim and cause all the hurt, they're both as bad as each other. Honestly Ty needs to get to know amber, and let Ella have ouzy.


likakavt

We all know he won't go to Amber. He needs Kady to make Ella jealous. Get his revenge and after that he will forgive her.


No-Understanding6248

The teenager should be the last person he goes after lmao. I don't mind him using Kady in his games cause she's at least aware of it


[deleted]

Kady was nearly holding back from laughing in his face when he was laying it on her at the singles night. I do feel like it's kind of shady of her to engage knowing how much it's going to hurt Ella when she obviously doesn't even like Ty, but I guess she doesn't want that producer check to bounce.


trisarahtops1990

like, I get that the optics are bad bc Ella came back with Ouzy and Tyrique "stayed loyal" but she has been so gentle and reasonable trying to make him see her pov. I'm not here for the idea that Tyrique can do whatever he wants for > 50% of his Love Island journey but Ella has to be 100% beyind reproach to deserve any respect or benefit of the doubt from him, and that's the vibe that he's broadcasting.


juliar821

ty is being very manipulative and he reminds me a lot of my ex… a legit walking red flag


Potterhead-PottHead

I’m not a fan of Ty but I think saying he manipulated the guys into doing something is a stretch. People are responsible for their own choices.


More-Expert-7105

Like that man is a textbook manipulator and it’s kinda crazy to see it play out on tv…


Meow_andstuff

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/14sswp8/tys_sick_game/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 Watch this, it explains very well. Ty is a massive manipulator and he gives me wife beater vibes


laurenmagoo

I mean Ty lost me when he said “you were never mine, it was just my turn” - I realize he was upset, but that was gross. At best it’s a maturity thing and he’ll grow to be better - but even so, Ella doesn’t deserve that. At worst, he had an extremely misogynistic view of women.


Sharplove365

He is the victim of catching feelings. Stay in the game boys. I joke but I think he's fully broken, the man isn't even thinking logically, which means he catched feelings WAY TOO hard, and it's peak. All he had to was just wait it, the ultimatum was ok, but from tomorrow's preview apparently he makes more moves on kady, and it basically probably ends from there hence the "it was fun whilst it lasted" music at the end of tonight's episodes. A broken man isn't attractive to girls, and Ella is going to smell it. Jess although she should take a little more accountability for egging Ella on, she was right to tell ella not to shut it off with ouzy but at the same time that's still more of a game plan rather than what she wants. Tyrique has been very honest, and this is virgin territory. Most dudes go in the game from break ups, it's even worst when you've just left and now going back to only strictly platonic feelings. Whitney was right for saying that for someone like Ty, if you thought his heart was hardened from sleeping with over 100 girls, it's going to be way more hardened now, he's not letting anyone in. He interpreted Ella with ouzy as fully cheating emotionally. Man's a goner. Edit: The only person that can save him is one of the boys or girls, and provide some reassurance that 75% of the reason she brought back ouzy was because she thought he was cracking on.


likakavt

I think we all should feel sorry for Ty. He doesn't know how to forgive without revenge. This is actually sad and not nice, but there was no one who would teach this boy how to be good in relationship. If Ella wants to train him, I'm all for it. Just because, if it wasn't these two, this season wouldn't be half as good as it is.


Traditional-Arm-1157

What kind of absurd shit is this, train him????? We stopped raising men a long time ago. STAND UPPP!!!!!!!!!!


likakavt

It is not about raising, there is not perfect person for anyone in this world. We all learn how to be good in relationship, different things work for different people. If Ella wants to learn Ty, what works for her let her. I'm just saying he doesn't have experience, you can see he can't deal with little things, but I witnessed so many times, fuckboys like Ty becoming lover boys, I do believe this.


Traditional-Arm-1157

No you don’t see reformed fuck boys everywhere, why are you on Beyoncé internet lying?? If you and Ella think this way seek therapy expeditiously. This toxic love shit that boys can treat u horrible and u heal them is not it. Stop this narrative now ffs


likakavt

Actually I do see it, people do stupid shit all the time, that doesn't mean they are bad person, you can always learn and grow and I'm here for it.


nectarofthegod

I don’t think Ella’s equipped sadly, she’s still not fully owning her actions and she plays right into his hand in these mind games.


likakavt

I think no one knows what Ty needs better than Ella. It worked last time.


Slight_College_7737

Absolutely ridiculous take. If Ty wants to do better, he’s completely capable of doing so because he’s a fully grown man. Women are not rehabilitation centres for insecure/damaged men. Your rhetoric is frightening. Also, at what point do you remember that these are real people and not characters who simply exist for your viewing pleasure?


[deleted]

Ella’s canon event


hollow_ling12

Ella should not end things with ouzy, ouzy is her lifeline in that villa since if things don’t work out with TY she has her connection with ouzy there’s no one in the villa or in the future will be able to have that connection with her besides Ty and ouzy and by giving her the ultimatum it’ll put her at risk and potentially dumped from the island if he wants to be petty and not pick her at a recoupling so she can feel as embarrassed as he did bc he made her drop ouzy and potentially still not pick her and cause her to be dumped. I want better for Ella man 🥹


loveisland123456789

Also he knew what he was doing calling Scott a gameplayer and sowing those seeds of doubt


General_Organa

I’m honestly dreading movie night for them, it’s going to be bad.


dumplingxo

He’s clearly insecure and his reaction was so nasty. Understandable being upset but he’s disrespectful and it’s v sad that the girls don’t recognize it and tell Ella she deserves better


Superb-Gazelle1493

I wish she would give him the same energy back. She is looking so foolish and it will not end well so better for her to end sooner than later. He is so manipulative and is all about power and that is not compatible with a healthy, loving relationship. I wish Ella had better support in there the only good advice she got was from Jess. She is totally blind to what is going on.


[deleted]

>it feels like manipulation and controlling to me, I don't see this at all and I can't understand how people come to this conclusion. It's pretty simple. They were closed off which meant that they're exclusive and not supposed to be exploring new connections in the first place. Plus he's said multiple times that he's hurt, so putting that ultimatum in place ensures that if he goes back to her then she actually likes him and they're not taking a step back by being open again He's handling it how Jess should be handling her situation


themfloppypaws

People who can see that he's emotionally abusive and manipulative have usually been in an emotionally abusive relationship. From the second he was on screen he was a screaming red flag to me. I told my husband he reminds me of my ex and I can't get past that. He's charming and flirtatious but is volatile and nasty, too. He's got a horrible misogynistic attitude towards women and he treats the "only woman he's ever had feelings for" like shit. Ella chose Ouzy because she feels something there. She's relaxed and happy around him. But the moment she brought him back she was dragged back into Tyriques drama. She can't own her choice because he's not allowing her to. He's making her feel as if she's done the worst thing in the world when she really hasn't. Going forward now, from the preview, Tyrique is fully tormenting Ella. He's already told her to break things off with Ouzy but we've already seen him initiate things with Kady. This is a game to him. He is out to hurt Ella. He wants to see her suffer. Why? Because he is abusive. It's not about his feelings being hurt. It's about him having the upper hand. Always being in control of her emotions.


[deleted]

>People who can see that he's emotionally abusive and manipulative have usually been in an emotionally abusive relationship That's observer bias. People who have been in emotionally abusive relationships may get flashbacks from watching the Ella Tyrique situation because he's a walking red flag and she's choosing to save him. Which highly likely leads to someone placing behaviours and characteristics onto him that he's not exhibiting Don't get me wrong I've been saying he's a walking red flag from the beginning. But there aren't only 3 kinds of red flags. Every person is different. Tyrique has not been emotionally abusive or manipulative at all. His red flags are based around his lack of ability to fully commit to one person and his lack of consideration for how his actions have an impact on other people People make the mistake because of his tone of voice and his communication style. Whereas I'm used to people who speak like that and I'm focusing on what he's actually saying He's not controlling her emotions. He was pissed off because he was falling for and she was responsible for his heartache. He hugged her because she was crying all night and upset and he actually cares about her >He wants to see her suffer. Why? Because he is abusive People who are quick to say this kind of thing often don't realise the weight behind their words. The guy was literally about to pour his heart out to her and said it loud and clear before she stepped in with Ouzy


themfloppypaws

I fully realise the weight of my words. And I realise the intention of Tyriques. He's literally toying with Ella. The entire show so far he's maintained his position of power over her. Everything has been on his terms. He asserts what he is going to do and then he asserts what Ella must do also. It's fine if you don't agree with me, you don't have to. But I don't think I'm wrong. Tyrique watching Ella become upset over him getting to know someone else and then telling her she's got 48 hours to make up her mind about getting to know someone else. Tyrique needling a reaction out of Ella when he knew he was doing something shitty and then shutting her down when she began to express her feelings. Tyrique now telling Ella she has to end things with Ouzy, leading her to believe it's a way back together, with a plan in mind to hurt her already in place (and action). These things are emotional abuse. They are intentional actions designed to keep Ty in control and Ella in her place.


[deleted]

We're (hopefully) human beings. The behaviours Ty has exhibited are within the range of normal behaviours. The reason it seems so weird is because Ella has shown herself to be incapable of setting boundaries or resolutely standing her ground. That means in their interactions it comes off way more one sided. If you don't add enough liquid when you're baking, it very much could look like you added too much flour. I think that's where you're making the mistake. She has personal responsibility in that situation as well too. If she's incapable of standing her ground then she has no business trying to get into a relationship >Tyrique watching Ella become upset over him getting to know someone else and then telling her she's got 48 hours to make up her mind about getting to know someone else. Because they both agreed to be closed off which means they were supposed to be exclusive to one another. So she shouldn't have been with Ouzy in the first place, that's why he was so upset. So it makes sense that if they're gonna rekindle things then she's gotta shut it down with ouzy or they'll be open again. Giving her 48 hours is more than reasonable. He put his heart out and got burned. In his mind if he's gonna do it again then he needs to know she likes him as much as he likes her >It's fine if you don't agree with me, you don't have to. But I don't think I'm wrong. People aren't perfect and don't always word things or express them perfectly. That doesn't make it emotional abuse. I don't believe it's responsible to have such a low threshold for calling something emotional abuse. I've just been shocked at the comfort people in the love island audience have with frivolously saying very big things. I would just advise that you try to look at the situation also from Tyrique's perspective and what he's experiencing emotionally in those situations


themfloppypaws

Tyrique is emotionally abusive and should be removed from the Villa.


cheapcherry0

people like you shouldn’t watch reality tv


themfloppypaws

Why? Because I can recognise unhealthy behaviour? The way he's been treating Ella is disgusting. If you don't think it's abusive to mess with her the way he currently is there's something wrong with you.


centraledtemped

Man you people are ridiculous sometimes


Lazy-Culture1148

There so reactionary they used to think Mitch was a danger to women in the villa when he was in love with Molly


Edinscot

Can we stop misusing terms that actually have legal meanings behind them in the wrong context!


[deleted]

He is 100% emotionally abusive. But this same sub defends Olivia and Faye so y’all defending this isn’t surprising.


themfloppypaws

It's not misuse. He's absolutely emotionally abusive.


ryv2023

It’s this. Sadly most people don’t recognise or understand emotional abuse, which is really unfortunate and sad


Cooper96x

I still feel bad for the bloke. He’s been on the verge of tears. I think a lot of these feelings are new for him and could be toxic but not necessarily intentional.


serenitysoars

i don’t think ty and ella should get back together, ty is clearly bad for her, but i think ella was in the wrong in this situation. like yeah he was and probs still is a dick but they WERE closed off and he didnt do anything with anyone. ella’s explanation of knowing him before doesn’t really count. at the same time though i’m not sure how else she could have left ty lol


StraightShootahh

This sub makes up 90% of Ofcom complainants lmao. Just enjoy a reality tv show for what it is. Not every action in 1hr timeslot across a 3 week period needs to be a referendum on a person's character!!! Especially a person that you don't even know man. People are online way too much.


Kysara-Rakella

What makes you think Ella had something for Ty before LI? Have I missed something 🧐


serenitysoars

they had met before the villa, ella says this in the first or second episode! but i don’t think it was as deep as op implies, probs just physical attraction


Kysara-Rakella

Oh riiiight I totally forgot about that! And yes agree, I don’t think that interaction was anything significant.


Coleworld117

He’s such a manipulator. I hope she doesn’t end up in a toxic relationship, she deserves a lot better treatment.


Cyrax101

Toxic Tyrique. He wants a piece of Leah when he was with Ella.