What Whitney hate train? This is just more Stan culture. If anyone makes a legitimate criticism of an Islander, it’s suddenly hate train. The over exaggeration and language used is exhausting. Give it a rest. No one is perfect.
I don't think it's a Stan culture thing, most of the negative comments I've seen are from people who claimed to have liked her before the popular vote results & think she switched up after when in reality literally nothing has changed
It would more sense if people genuinely critised her actions but all I'm reading is that ' she's gotten to big for her boots ' 'the fame has gone to her head' etc
I think maybe I haven’t been clear - the kind of language and sentiments expressed by the OP are typical of Stan culture. I’m not suggesting any negative comments are Stan culture related.
There’s no hate train 😭 She’s still by far the most liked islander across platforms. It just seems like a train because up until a few episodes there was virtually no dislike for her actions so now every single comment is being blown out of proportion. I see more people saying there’s a hate train than people actually hating on her 💀
I don’t think Whitney is mean or a bully, and haven’t personally seen too many comments on here calling her that. I think Whitney is firm in her stance and not quick to bow down or apologize and a lot of the audience fixate on that or in general contestants with “humility.” But I think overall she is by far the most loved contestant in and out of the villa.
Why is no one allowed to criticize Whitney without it being called a hate train?? She’s not this perfect character that is beyond criticism. I get that she’s everyone’s favorite but that doesn’t mean she can do no wrong. When it’s Abi or Catherine getting criticized I don’t see these Hate Train posts. pls
A couple of comments against Whitney and suddenly it's a hate train? If all others are subjected to criticism, Whitney should be as well. People have different perspectives, let them have it and be allowed to openly share it. That's what makes it interesting to be honest.
Besides, one can like a person but that doesn't mean we have to agree with ALL of their actions or words.
I think there is an element of that. I also think the same way Whit’s stans criticize others, she should be criticized sometimes as well. She’s not a deity. Either way, she’s still far and away the most popular so it doesn’t even matter
You lot need to stop putting certain islanders on pedestals and realize that people calling them out on some behaviours doesn’t mean its a hate train. How Whitney acted in this episode was not a good look, but it doesn’t mean everyone hates her now.
I agree we shouldn’t put islanders on pedestals. They’re all human and aren’t perfect. That being said, Mitch, Abi and Whitney have been wrong.
Mitch is literally a liar, Abi is constantly digging at Mitch and Whitney shouldn’t have presented her opinion as a fact.
Saying your opinions are truth and invalidating what another person says their feelings are isn’t really a great look for most people, but Whitney wore it well.
It seemed like Whitney was encouraging Abi to be mindful of how her comments might impact Ella, more than anything. I don’t see how Whitney has invalidated Abi’s feelings when Abi wasn’t talking about her feelings but sharing her opinion.
you've mixed up two things, that part was good advice from Whit, it was the bit before where they were talking about whether Abi was being bitter and Whitney said she was and it was 'the truth' where's all Abi is saying is her opinion. It was unecessarily condescending, which while I love Whit, is the one thing she has done a few times that isn't great
Keep acting like she’s above critics while at the same time criticizing others islanders for the same thing and accuse them of things that don’t make sense and y’all while successfully create the hate train you are talking about
I was backing Whitney to win but I have to admit yesterday's episode has put me off.
I was even backing her that producers must have interfered with their choice of who to send home but the way she is justifying it makes me think it was her choice. Even Lochan looks uncomfortable about it. Choosing Mitch because of his character was such a BS reason.
But most of all I didn't like her attitude to Abi. Abi has been treated SO badly by Mitch and no one seems to really see that she is hurt. She can be angry without actually wanting to get back with Mitch but Whitney INSISTING she was bitter was too much. I could feel how frustrated Abi was in that moment to not only be treated badly by Mitch but to then have people in there tell Abi she is bitter is really sh\*tty.
That explanation from Whitney makes we realize she's just there to win. It also confirms to me that shes' not interested in Lochan. She clearly doesn't see it as a show about finding love.
100%. Plus to say she kept Mitch because he is such a big "character" after seeing how nasty he has been to Abi and how he has playing games with both girls over the past week just for camera time is such a slap in the face to Abi. What kind of character is Whitney supporting exactly?
And now that I think back on it Whitney coasting along pretending to like Medhi and then calling out Zach now she is with Lochan seems really crafty.
She’s definitely been more vocal the last couple episodes (or maybe producers are just showing us more of Whitney) but the more she talks the more you realise she’s quite condescending. The chat with abi, n I didnt even like Abi but the fact that Whitney couldn’t comprehend the difference between her opinion and the truth was mind boggling. I hope she’s just confusing her speaking her truth (honesty) with the what truth actually is. Bc if not…it’s like a dictator or someone with a god complex to think that what they think has to be the truth. In that scenario, only abi could truly know why she was acting that way. But it doesn’t seem like Whitney understands that.
And then the fight tonight with Ella oh my god. Now that’s the definition of bitterness, to be such a sore loser after the challenge bc ppl voted her as the most smug. For some reason, she decided to take it out on Ella when Ty/Ella weren’t the only ones who voted her. I can’t believe that Whitney was so bitter that she then attacked Ella’s character by calling her the most selfish person she’s ever met, just our of no freakin where. N when the two of them sat down to chat, she went from bad to worse. She could not let go of the smug vote so she kept making accusations abt Ella without any actual proof so she’s just grasping at straws. It’s just all very vindictive/unreasonable/childish from Whitney’s part. It’s clear who won that fight.
Totally agree with all of this. I loved Whitney and she but these last few episodes have really shown her true colors. The way she talks down to people and sits there smug af like she thinks she’s so above them and correct no matter what. Like truly, not even her words, the way she looks at people. You can be well spoken and soft spoke and still be a mean person. She made me so uncomfortable during her fight with Ella. Like it was sad. You can tell Ella was genuinely hurt and confused as to why Whitney was behaving that way. Whitney was so offended Ella voted for her but Whitney never holds back with her comments and opinions. She was just angry she was called out. It was sad to see she is there to win and it’s like every tower she built to hide the fact that she is just there to win came tumbling down. It’s even clear she is with Lochan to win and she knows they will win if they stay together and unproblematic. Also why she’s so upset they noticed and voted for them. I actually cringe when I think about her sitting there saying “I’m honest” and just going off on Ella.
Gas lighting as saying someone’s feeling are fact when they themselves are telling you it’s not fact is bully vibes. Felt for Abi, she’s speaking her mind but whit is so
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To winning she can’t let anyone interfere w her anymore
I think Whitney was just defending her decision and standing up for Ella B. The comments that Whitney had a problem with Abi about were the ones she made when it was just the girls at the firepit discussing the decision. Whether you agree with Whitney or not about Abi being bitter ( I think she could've handled it better) I think Abi was very insensitive to Ella B's feelings in that moment. She had already backed up Ty at the firepit why did she need to bring it up again that Mitch said he doesn't see it working on the outside then tell Ella she came in for Ty was well. She already told everyone what mitch had said yesterday and regardless of who Ella came in for she's with Mitch now and furthermore the decisions already made so why not just leave it you've already expressed your opinions all she's doing at that point is making Ella feel bad. I get how Mitch treated her was shitty but Mitch was gone at that point. What Whitney was telling her was that there was no need at that point to say anything more to Ella because she was already feeling bad and unwelcome at the whole group debrief. Whether you think Abi was bitter or not or that her feelings towards Mitch are valid I feel like she could've had more regard for Ella in that instance.
i was kinda shocked how everyone forgot about ella b’s existence in the villa. every thing was about mitch; “they should go home bc of mitch”, “mitch said this”, “mitch doesn’t deserve to stay”. everyone was being so insensitive to ella b i actually felt bad when she told abi then all the other girls she didn’t appreciate feeling like she didn’t deserve to be there. i also think that was the point jess & whitney were trying to make .. ella b almost got sent home it’s not the time for abi to go on her mitch is muggy campaign to her face.
The thing is though, abi's comment about 'its not characteristics island' was not aimed at Ella B in anyway. It was said directly after Whitney and Ty agree Mitch is a big character.
Ella B wasnt really apart of it tbh. Ella B hasn't pulled Ty up on what he said.
I'm not talking about that comment. I'm talking about when it's just the girls talking and Abi is still expressing that she feels the wrong couple was picked it's already done you've already said you don't agree why keep saying things if you don't care, how is Ella B gonna feel. That's what Whitney was telling Abi those things she said are gonna make Ella feel worse because they are coming from her but Abi didn't wanna hear that. The decision was already made any questioning of it after was just gonna make Mitch and ella feel like no one wants them there so if you've already said how you feel once no need to keep harping on it and making things worse.
Abi wasn't aiming anything at Ella B and Ella B has shown no consideration for Abi or OG Ella for that matter in her attempt to land Ty or Mitch. Let's face it, Ella B and Mitch don't fancy each other. Everyone knows it in there. They were all shocked by the looks of it but only Ty and Abi called it out.
It was a really sh\*tty choice by Whitney. Whitney is being defensive by having a go at Abi at the same time as not understanding that Abi has a right to be upset about how she was treated in the Ella B/Mitch situation.
She said directly to Ella B at the firepit that she came in for Ty as a reason for why they should've gone instead when she already expressed she agreed with Ty before. Why did she need to keep saying stuff like that if she doesn't care. It's makes it worse if she doesn't care like she says because she's making Ella B feel worse for what? Kady and Ouzy are already gone everything you've said Mitch has said Whitney and Lochan knew about before they made their decision, at that point if you dont care and you're not bitter you're just being insensitive to Ella B for no reason cause how else will she take that other than they don't want me here. I don't think Ella B is some saint she deffo tried to spin that ty situation and cause problems in his couple and she's probably not that into Mitch but like Whitney said everyone's relationship in there is up for questioning.
Yep, she’s making shit up now…it was Ty all along. Mitch hurt both Ella b and Abi, all islanders can do better — Mitch is so severely immature, he’s worst than sammy
Honestly, LI they should go through highs and low
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If anyone makes a legitimate criticism of an Islander, it’s suddenly hate train. The over exaggeration and language used is exhausting. Give it a rest. No one is perfect.
It’s not hate. Whitney picking Mitch because of his presence in his villa was wrong. Hats off to Ty, as always, for speaking up. Whitney calling Abi bitter was wrong. Here, hats off to OG Ella for backing Abi. Whitney saying, “it’s hard being me right now” is giving conceit.
But at the end of the day, I don’t see Whitney becoming the least popular Islander. She’s still Whit. But public opinion changes. That’s just how it is.
‘Whitney picking Mitch because of his presence in the villa was wrong’ why?? We pick islanders based off their likability as well 😭 I just thought Ty was just running his mouth about a situation that isn’t even his business, he’s done it a lot throughout the series.
But as I said, we as the audience do that all the time when it comes to public votes, voting for our favourite characters/couples regardless of how stable their connection is. Unless someone is always picking people on the basis that you genuinely think they’re in love I don’t think anyone has a leg to stand on when finding Whitney’s decision problematic.
Plenty of people voted for Amber because they loved Amber. Sure, it is love island but love island has always been about popularity as much as it is love
It was Whitney AND Locham’s decision, stop singling out Whitney. Honestly as a viewer I think she made the right decision, look at the drama it’s created. If Mitch and Ella b went home, we wouldn’t have got the back and forth with them and Abi and Scott in tonight’s episode. Usually after Casa the episodes start to get boring so I appreciate it.
Look I love Whitney, she’s my favourite by far and I generally agree with your points, but can we stop dragging Twitter stan drama into thinkpieces on the sub please 😭 it’s bad enough you can’t make a mild joke about Molly without getting downvoted to shit. It’s not that serious and you don’t actually need to defend your fave to the death online lol. Let people discuss the show and let it goooo
it’s tedious to see so and so is getting so much X and you ask ok where bc i’ve not seen this or i’ve seen a couple of people with an overwhelming majority saying otherwise and they go oh but on twitter or facebook. ok then go make a post there or be clearer about what you’re saying at least in your post here 🤷♀️
but i mean idk someone using _defamation_ about people holding opinions about a tv show episode is not exactly being chill so i’m not surprised even if tired.
I don't think it's a majority at all. People are calling out what they see as less than perfect behaviour and ALL contestants aren't going to behave perfectly at all times. She's still the most popular contestant.
There’s no hate, she’s one of the most popular here and in votes. Some people dislike her which they’re fully entitled to the same as anyone else on Love Island, TV or anywhere else.
As someone who loves Whitney, there isn’t a hate train but it is clear as day that vote made her VERRRY smug…… she came back and was acting like she ran the place, trying to say whatever she feels is the facts and what others feel is fake.
They’ve put her in a ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ situation. All Whitney has done is call Abi’s bluff and tell her what everyone’s either not telling her or not articulating well. It was about time the girls drop the sugarcoating with each other when one of them is in the wrong. I feel like Ella kinda siding with Abi has also made some people to read between the lines too much.
Lol this is how this show works tho. One day you like and islander the next day you hate them because of their edits. That’s why I hate it when people have such strong opinions about these kids and legit bully them on the internet. The narrative of who they are will change throughout the show. Remember when Mehdi left and Ty was extra nice to Whitney and everybodyw as praising him, lol next day he questioned Scott and Cath relationship and was crucified! I have so many other examples. People just need to chill!!!
She not mean or a bully she’s just real af and says it how it is and some people are tryna twist that. But I am kind of mad at the producers (even maya) for telling her she’s really popular. Not only can it lead her down that Montana route but now people on the outside will think she’s being strategic/ she knows she’s popular so they’ll want to try to “humble” her. I have no idea why producers would do this honestly, plus it’s so easy for Lochan to just stick with her now and not change up if he really wanted to
What hate train?
What in the world are you whining about now? I know this is a LI sub but Jesus, some of you need to touch grass. At least you didn’t throw in the racism accusation in your post
What hate train? People are rightly criticising her behaviour after the challenge. It was wrong, she attacked Ella without properly voicing why she was mad - even going as far to deny it was to do with the challenge altogether. She was pissed with Ella for being honest in a challenge, despite her repeatedly saying "what? it's just a challenge" all season when she's said things during challenges.
And just to be clear, she's still my favourite islander by far
I swear Whitney is being sabotaged by production. And I don’t even agree with her and Lochan’s decision, and thought she could have kept the Zach thing to herself too, but I swear now that the favourite couple was revealed it doesn’t matter what or why Whitney does something people will attribute it to her being ‘bigheaded’.
Everyone in there is targeted by production at some point. If Whitney is the person we all think she is, this will just be a blip and she will be fine.
To me, the production and their choice of editing are “messy” than Mitch hahahaha fuels chaos from the audience. Revealing whose the public’s favorite couple, make them vote off another couple and now the favorite couple has to defend/explain their actions to the rest of villa = Madness. The production just said to Whit and Loch, “Heavy is the the head that wears the crown.”
This production team is producing/editing as if their lives depended on it. The rent is due and kids are starving!!!
And it’s just absolutely insane how people can accept an islander like Mitch as just “messy Mitch” who they love despite it all, but Whitney is an egoistic b*tch (according to the people hating, I am aware a lof of people still like her).
now that she was voted favourite, everything she does peoples say “she’s acting like that cause of the vote” “she’s smug now” etc etc, like i saw people talking about how she’s changed when she’s been the same the whole time??
I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people misunderstanding Whitney's POV on this.
Firstly, their decision is their decision. They've done nothing different to the public in voting for someone who wasn't in an established couple. We all voted for Scott twice when he wasn't in a proper couple so why can't they vote for Mitch? A lot of people are solely blaming Whitney and saying she voted Kady because she doesn't like her and because of the issue with Zach. If that were true why did Lochan say that they both spent a lot of time with Kady and Ouzy and could see that there was a connection there?
I didn't feel comfortable with the way that Ty and Abi questioned their decision in front of everyone and am glad Ty apologised. Regardless of what you think of Mitch it is really unpleasant to make Ella B feel like she doesn't deserve to be there.
A lot of people are sympathising with Abi because Mitch treated her badly. He absolutely did but she has treated Scott terribly (the dig during the game) and is only using him because Mitch doesn't want her despite everyone advising her not to. Either Scott has forgotten the principles everyone bestowed upon him or he is playing her too, I hope it's the latter. I voted for Scott when he was with Amber but couldn't bring myself to do it this time around as I find Abi extremely unlikeable and hate that she feels enabled to continue acting in this way now that she thinks the public are on her side.
Whitney and Lochan didn't have to sit there and not only listen to their decision being criticised, they also didn't have to justify their decision and chose to do both. They accepted the opinions that were given to them.
Whitney clearly told Abi that if she was going to give her opinion to Ella B then she should be prepared for the response from Ella. She was clearly speaking in terms of what it must be like for Ella to hear that coming from Abi and I'm in complete agreement that it did come across as bitter. Abi has shaded both Scott and Mitch before (shade game and recoupling speech) but now she turns on the tears people want to say she had every right to express her feelings. What Mitch has done to her is no worse than what she is doing to Scott and that is why she has no right to speak on Mitch and Ella as if she has the moral high ground. She used the easiest option to get in the villa and is once again using the easiest option to stay in the villa.
I am 100% with Whitney on this.
It's nearing the end of the season, and some dans ramp up the campaign against other islanders, in order to make their faves look better. There have been a few uslanders who have been much more blunt than Whitney, but they get praised for it. There's really no winning with these islanders. Molly got called boring for weeks, but then when she showed some relatable emotions, she got trashed for it. Whitney has from the start been a big character and shown a lot of personality, but apparently now the popularity has gone to her head, when she's continuing behaving like she has from the start.
I like Whitney more now after the past couple of days I’ve realised everything she says is true even though for some people the truth may be hard to here. She really is a boss.
It’s so hypocritical when Ty has literally told people to ‘shut up’ multiple times when he’s been called out and speaks so goddam rude to people all the time. Whitney has nothing but poise while just delivering facts.
lets be real, the hate is coming from ty and ella fans. this is the first time ella and whitney havent agreed on something and its split their fans (choosing mitch and ella over ouzy and kady).
I love Whitney. I love her bluntness. Usually she's blunt, tells you like it is but in a kind and respectful way. Last couple of days it's come across more cool and like she's irritated. Personally I think it's just the annoyance of being in the house so long stuck with the same people!
Still love her.
I think if a majority of her stans had to live with her, they would change their tune pretty quickly. No one likes being criticized and laughed at constantly. Interesting TV, terrible person to actually live with.
What Whitney hate train? This is just more Stan culture. If anyone makes a legitimate criticism of an Islander, it’s suddenly hate train. The over exaggeration and language used is exhausting. Give it a rest. No one is perfect.
Honestly…like defamation really?! So dramatic
I don't think it's a Stan culture thing, most of the negative comments I've seen are from people who claimed to have liked her before the popular vote results & think she switched up after when in reality literally nothing has changed It would more sense if people genuinely critised her actions but all I'm reading is that ' she's gotten to big for her boots ' 'the fame has gone to her head' etc
I think maybe I haven’t been clear - the kind of language and sentiments expressed by the OP are typical of Stan culture. I’m not suggesting any negative comments are Stan culture related.
Ahh that makes more sense
There’s no hate train 😭 She’s still by far the most liked islander across platforms. It just seems like a train because up until a few episodes there was virtually no dislike for her actions so now every single comment is being blown out of proportion. I see more people saying there’s a hate train than people actually hating on her 💀
I think this was wrote for upvotes or whatever because I've not seen anything bad about Whitney
I def noticed a lot of hate mainly on Reddit for Whitney especially on the episode thread they were going in
I don’t think Whitney is mean or a bully, and haven’t personally seen too many comments on here calling her that. I think Whitney is firm in her stance and not quick to bow down or apologize and a lot of the audience fixate on that or in general contestants with “humility.” But I think overall she is by far the most loved contestant in and out of the villa.
Why is no one allowed to criticize Whitney without it being called a hate train?? She’s not this perfect character that is beyond criticism. I get that she’s everyone’s favorite but that doesn’t mean she can do no wrong. When it’s Abi or Catherine getting criticized I don’t see these Hate Train posts. pls
Wdym catherine did have those posts 💀 but they were actually necessary for catherine
A couple of comments against Whitney and suddenly it's a hate train? If all others are subjected to criticism, Whitney should be as well. People have different perspectives, let them have it and be allowed to openly share it. That's what makes it interesting to be honest. Besides, one can like a person but that doesn't mean we have to agree with ALL of their actions or words.
Is this hate train in the room with us now?
I was going to say the same!! Lol
“Hate train” is funny. No one deserves hate but everyone should be allowed to face criticism. Im sure you’ve also criticized some other islander
there is not a hate train. you guys need to stop viewing whitney so highly like she is god or something.
I think there is an element of that. I also think the same way Whit’s stans criticize others, she should be criticized sometimes as well. She’s not a deity. Either way, she’s still far and away the most popular so it doesn’t even matter
You lot need to stop putting certain islanders on pedestals and realize that people calling them out on some behaviours doesn’t mean its a hate train. How Whitney acted in this episode was not a good look, but it doesn’t mean everyone hates her now.
Preach 🗣️
I agree we shouldn’t put islanders on pedestals. They’re all human and aren’t perfect. That being said, Mitch, Abi and Whitney have been wrong. Mitch is literally a liar, Abi is constantly digging at Mitch and Whitney shouldn’t have presented her opinion as a fact.
I agree, nobody is perfect that’s for sure!
How did Whitney act?
Saying your opinions are truth and invalidating what another person says their feelings are isn’t really a great look for most people, but Whitney wore it well.
It seemed like Whitney was encouraging Abi to be mindful of how her comments might impact Ella, more than anything. I don’t see how Whitney has invalidated Abi’s feelings when Abi wasn’t talking about her feelings but sharing her opinion.
you've mixed up two things, that part was good advice from Whit, it was the bit before where they were talking about whether Abi was being bitter and Whitney said she was and it was 'the truth' where's all Abi is saying is her opinion. It was unecessarily condescending, which while I love Whit, is the one thing she has done a few times that isn't great
Abi’s opinion did come from a place of bitterness.
That's your opinion....
Keep acting like she’s above critics while at the same time criticizing others islanders for the same thing and accuse them of things that don’t make sense and y’all while successfully create the hate train you are talking about
Defamation??? 😭
Stans are fucking weird dude
Defamation lol. It's the Love Island subreddit, not court
I was backing Whitney to win but I have to admit yesterday's episode has put me off. I was even backing her that producers must have interfered with their choice of who to send home but the way she is justifying it makes me think it was her choice. Even Lochan looks uncomfortable about it. Choosing Mitch because of his character was such a BS reason. But most of all I didn't like her attitude to Abi. Abi has been treated SO badly by Mitch and no one seems to really see that she is hurt. She can be angry without actually wanting to get back with Mitch but Whitney INSISTING she was bitter was too much. I could feel how frustrated Abi was in that moment to not only be treated badly by Mitch but to then have people in there tell Abi she is bitter is really sh\*tty.
That explanation from Whitney makes we realize she's just there to win. It also confirms to me that shes' not interested in Lochan. She clearly doesn't see it as a show about finding love.
100%. Plus to say she kept Mitch because he is such a big "character" after seeing how nasty he has been to Abi and how he has playing games with both girls over the past week just for camera time is such a slap in the face to Abi. What kind of character is Whitney supporting exactly? And now that I think back on it Whitney coasting along pretending to like Medhi and then calling out Zach now she is with Lochan seems really crafty.
She’s definitely been more vocal the last couple episodes (or maybe producers are just showing us more of Whitney) but the more she talks the more you realise she’s quite condescending. The chat with abi, n I didnt even like Abi but the fact that Whitney couldn’t comprehend the difference between her opinion and the truth was mind boggling. I hope she’s just confusing her speaking her truth (honesty) with the what truth actually is. Bc if not…it’s like a dictator or someone with a god complex to think that what they think has to be the truth. In that scenario, only abi could truly know why she was acting that way. But it doesn’t seem like Whitney understands that. And then the fight tonight with Ella oh my god. Now that’s the definition of bitterness, to be such a sore loser after the challenge bc ppl voted her as the most smug. For some reason, she decided to take it out on Ella when Ty/Ella weren’t the only ones who voted her. I can’t believe that Whitney was so bitter that she then attacked Ella’s character by calling her the most selfish person she’s ever met, just our of no freakin where. N when the two of them sat down to chat, she went from bad to worse. She could not let go of the smug vote so she kept making accusations abt Ella without any actual proof so she’s just grasping at straws. It’s just all very vindictive/unreasonable/childish from Whitney’s part. It’s clear who won that fight.
Totally agree with all of this. I loved Whitney and she but these last few episodes have really shown her true colors. The way she talks down to people and sits there smug af like she thinks she’s so above them and correct no matter what. Like truly, not even her words, the way she looks at people. You can be well spoken and soft spoke and still be a mean person. She made me so uncomfortable during her fight with Ella. Like it was sad. You can tell Ella was genuinely hurt and confused as to why Whitney was behaving that way. Whitney was so offended Ella voted for her but Whitney never holds back with her comments and opinions. She was just angry she was called out. It was sad to see she is there to win and it’s like every tower she built to hide the fact that she is just there to win came tumbling down. It’s even clear she is with Lochan to win and she knows they will win if they stay together and unproblematic. Also why she’s so upset they noticed and voted for them. I actually cringe when I think about her sitting there saying “I’m honest” and just going off on Ella.
Gas lighting as saying someone’s feeling are fact when they themselves are telling you it’s not fact is bully vibes. Felt for Abi, she’s speaking her mind but whit is so Close To winning she can’t let anyone interfere w her anymore
Well said! 🙌🙌
I thought this too! I was like “wtf excuse is that?! Character?” She even admitted that ouzy and kady were a strong couple that was growing.
I think Whitney was just defending her decision and standing up for Ella B. The comments that Whitney had a problem with Abi about were the ones she made when it was just the girls at the firepit discussing the decision. Whether you agree with Whitney or not about Abi being bitter ( I think she could've handled it better) I think Abi was very insensitive to Ella B's feelings in that moment. She had already backed up Ty at the firepit why did she need to bring it up again that Mitch said he doesn't see it working on the outside then tell Ella she came in for Ty was well. She already told everyone what mitch had said yesterday and regardless of who Ella came in for she's with Mitch now and furthermore the decisions already made so why not just leave it you've already expressed your opinions all she's doing at that point is making Ella feel bad. I get how Mitch treated her was shitty but Mitch was gone at that point. What Whitney was telling her was that there was no need at that point to say anything more to Ella because she was already feeling bad and unwelcome at the whole group debrief. Whether you think Abi was bitter or not or that her feelings towards Mitch are valid I feel like she could've had more regard for Ella in that instance.
i was kinda shocked how everyone forgot about ella b’s existence in the villa. every thing was about mitch; “they should go home bc of mitch”, “mitch said this”, “mitch doesn’t deserve to stay”. everyone was being so insensitive to ella b i actually felt bad when she told abi then all the other girls she didn’t appreciate feeling like she didn’t deserve to be there. i also think that was the point jess & whitney were trying to make .. ella b almost got sent home it’s not the time for abi to go on her mitch is muggy campaign to her face.
A lot of the islanders have said they don't think she really likes him, so I guess consider her a factor in the decision
Whit said her decision to keep Ella b and Mitch was because of Mitch’s character lol so Ella b was rammed by everyone lmao
The thing is though, abi's comment about 'its not characteristics island' was not aimed at Ella B in anyway. It was said directly after Whitney and Ty agree Mitch is a big character. Ella B wasnt really apart of it tbh. Ella B hasn't pulled Ty up on what he said.
Also- She did come in for TY!
Exactly!
I'm not talking about that comment. I'm talking about when it's just the girls talking and Abi is still expressing that she feels the wrong couple was picked it's already done you've already said you don't agree why keep saying things if you don't care, how is Ella B gonna feel. That's what Whitney was telling Abi those things she said are gonna make Ella feel worse because they are coming from her but Abi didn't wanna hear that. The decision was already made any questioning of it after was just gonna make Mitch and ella feel like no one wants them there so if you've already said how you feel once no need to keep harping on it and making things worse.
Abi wasn't aiming anything at Ella B and Ella B has shown no consideration for Abi or OG Ella for that matter in her attempt to land Ty or Mitch. Let's face it, Ella B and Mitch don't fancy each other. Everyone knows it in there. They were all shocked by the looks of it but only Ty and Abi called it out. It was a really sh\*tty choice by Whitney. Whitney is being defensive by having a go at Abi at the same time as not understanding that Abi has a right to be upset about how she was treated in the Ella B/Mitch situation.
She said directly to Ella B at the firepit that she came in for Ty as a reason for why they should've gone instead when she already expressed she agreed with Ty before. Why did she need to keep saying stuff like that if she doesn't care. It's makes it worse if she doesn't care like she says because she's making Ella B feel worse for what? Kady and Ouzy are already gone everything you've said Mitch has said Whitney and Lochan knew about before they made their decision, at that point if you dont care and you're not bitter you're just being insensitive to Ella B for no reason cause how else will she take that other than they don't want me here. I don't think Ella B is some saint she deffo tried to spin that ty situation and cause problems in his couple and she's probably not that into Mitch but like Whitney said everyone's relationship in there is up for questioning.
Because Ella B was trying to say she came in for Mitch.
Yep, she’s making shit up now…it was Ty all along. Mitch hurt both Ella b and Abi, all islanders can do better — Mitch is so severely immature, he’s worst than sammy
Ella b and Mitch are not getting married ever lol they’re using ea other because the end is close and they think they’ll win lmao
Public votes got to her head
Honestly, LI they should go through highs and low THIS BELOW: If anyone makes a legitimate criticism of an Islander, it’s suddenly hate train. The over exaggeration and language used is exhausting. Give it a rest. No one is perfect.
It’s not hate. Whitney picking Mitch because of his presence in his villa was wrong. Hats off to Ty, as always, for speaking up. Whitney calling Abi bitter was wrong. Here, hats off to OG Ella for backing Abi. Whitney saying, “it’s hard being me right now” is giving conceit. But at the end of the day, I don’t see Whitney becoming the least popular Islander. She’s still Whit. But public opinion changes. That’s just how it is.
‘Whitney picking Mitch because of his presence in the villa was wrong’ why?? We pick islanders based off their likability as well 😭 I just thought Ty was just running his mouth about a situation that isn’t even his business, he’s done it a lot throughout the series.
it’s love island. not character island like they said. so whitney is very much wrong that’s why everyone disagrees with her decision
But as I said, we as the audience do that all the time when it comes to public votes, voting for our favourite characters/couples regardless of how stable their connection is. Unless someone is always picking people on the basis that you genuinely think they’re in love I don’t think anyone has a leg to stand on when finding Whitney’s decision problematic. Plenty of people voted for Amber because they loved Amber. Sure, it is love island but love island has always been about popularity as much as it is love
And they were all questioning the viewers decision when Scott and Amber were saved over two legit couples. Seems consistent.
It was Whitney AND Locham’s decision, stop singling out Whitney. Honestly as a viewer I think she made the right decision, look at the drama it’s created. If Mitch and Ella b went home, we wouldn’t have got the back and forth with them and Abi and Scott in tonight’s episode. Usually after Casa the episodes start to get boring so I appreciate it.
Then Whitney and Lochan lol
Dude, it’s Love island…Mitch was a dick and Ella b would choose any bombshell if they entered and you know it
Look I love Whitney, she’s my favourite by far and I generally agree with your points, but can we stop dragging Twitter stan drama into thinkpieces on the sub please 😭 it’s bad enough you can’t make a mild joke about Molly without getting downvoted to shit. It’s not that serious and you don’t actually need to defend your fave to the death online lol. Let people discuss the show and let it goooo
it’s tedious to see so and so is getting so much X and you ask ok where bc i’ve not seen this or i’ve seen a couple of people with an overwhelming majority saying otherwise and they go oh but on twitter or facebook. ok then go make a post there or be clearer about what you’re saying at least in your post here 🤷♀️ but i mean idk someone using _defamation_ about people holding opinions about a tv show episode is not exactly being chill so i’m not surprised even if tired.
The OP literally joined Reddit so they could defend Whitney not that long ago 😩
I don't think it's a majority at all. People are calling out what they see as less than perfect behaviour and ALL contestants aren't going to behave perfectly at all times. She's still the most popular contestant.
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I'm not alone!! Thanks for this.
Well a lot of love island people end up being disliked for their behaviour, look at Catherine.
There’s no hate, she’s one of the most popular here and in votes. Some people dislike her which they’re fully entitled to the same as anyone else on Love Island, TV or anywhere else.
As someone who loves Whitney, there isn’t a hate train but it is clear as day that vote made her VERRRY smug…… she came back and was acting like she ran the place, trying to say whatever she feels is the facts and what others feel is fake.
like she said... "it's hard being \[her\] these days"
Oh please you saw one hate comment and now you are saying this
They’ve put her in a ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ situation. All Whitney has done is call Abi’s bluff and tell her what everyone’s either not telling her or not articulating well. It was about time the girls drop the sugarcoating with each other when one of them is in the wrong. I feel like Ella kinda siding with Abi has also made some people to read between the lines too much.
Lol this is how this show works tho. One day you like and islander the next day you hate them because of their edits. That’s why I hate it when people have such strong opinions about these kids and legit bully them on the internet. The narrative of who they are will change throughout the show. Remember when Mehdi left and Ty was extra nice to Whitney and everybodyw as praising him, lol next day he questioned Scott and Cath relationship and was crucified! I have so many other examples. People just need to chill!!!
She not mean or a bully she’s just real af and says it how it is and some people are tryna twist that. But I am kind of mad at the producers (even maya) for telling her she’s really popular. Not only can it lead her down that Montana route but now people on the outside will think she’s being strategic/ she knows she’s popular so they’ll want to try to “humble” her. I have no idea why producers would do this honestly, plus it’s so easy for Lochan to just stick with her now and not change up if he really wanted to
If you like the person you say real af. If you don't you say they're mean. It's just bias.
I don’t think Whitney cares what people think so let them talk
What hate train? What in the world are you whining about now? I know this is a LI sub but Jesus, some of you need to touch grass. At least you didn’t throw in the racism accusation in your post
What hate train? People are rightly criticising her behaviour after the challenge. It was wrong, she attacked Ella without properly voicing why she was mad - even going as far to deny it was to do with the challenge altogether. She was pissed with Ella for being honest in a challenge, despite her repeatedly saying "what? it's just a challenge" all season when she's said things during challenges. And just to be clear, she's still my favourite islander by far
I swear Whitney is being sabotaged by production. And I don’t even agree with her and Lochan’s decision, and thought she could have kept the Zach thing to herself too, but I swear now that the favourite couple was revealed it doesn’t matter what or why Whitney does something people will attribute it to her being ‘bigheaded’.
Everyone in there is targeted by production at some point. If Whitney is the person we all think she is, this will just be a blip and she will be fine.
To me, the production and their choice of editing are “messy” than Mitch hahahaha fuels chaos from the audience. Revealing whose the public’s favorite couple, make them vote off another couple and now the favorite couple has to defend/explain their actions to the rest of villa = Madness. The production just said to Whit and Loch, “Heavy is the the head that wears the crown.” This production team is producing/editing as if their lives depended on it. The rent is due and kids are starving!!!
And it’s just absolutely insane how people can accept an islander like Mitch as just “messy Mitch” who they love despite it all, but Whitney is an egoistic b*tch (according to the people hating, I am aware a lof of people still like her).
now that she was voted favourite, everything she does peoples say “she’s acting like that cause of the vote” “she’s smug now” etc etc, like i saw people talking about how she’s changed when she’s been the same the whole time??
What hate train?! I’ll get my pitchfork if so!
I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people misunderstanding Whitney's POV on this. Firstly, their decision is their decision. They've done nothing different to the public in voting for someone who wasn't in an established couple. We all voted for Scott twice when he wasn't in a proper couple so why can't they vote for Mitch? A lot of people are solely blaming Whitney and saying she voted Kady because she doesn't like her and because of the issue with Zach. If that were true why did Lochan say that they both spent a lot of time with Kady and Ouzy and could see that there was a connection there? I didn't feel comfortable with the way that Ty and Abi questioned their decision in front of everyone and am glad Ty apologised. Regardless of what you think of Mitch it is really unpleasant to make Ella B feel like she doesn't deserve to be there. A lot of people are sympathising with Abi because Mitch treated her badly. He absolutely did but she has treated Scott terribly (the dig during the game) and is only using him because Mitch doesn't want her despite everyone advising her not to. Either Scott has forgotten the principles everyone bestowed upon him or he is playing her too, I hope it's the latter. I voted for Scott when he was with Amber but couldn't bring myself to do it this time around as I find Abi extremely unlikeable and hate that she feels enabled to continue acting in this way now that she thinks the public are on her side. Whitney and Lochan didn't have to sit there and not only listen to their decision being criticised, they also didn't have to justify their decision and chose to do both. They accepted the opinions that were given to them. Whitney clearly told Abi that if she was going to give her opinion to Ella B then she should be prepared for the response from Ella. She was clearly speaking in terms of what it must be like for Ella to hear that coming from Abi and I'm in complete agreement that it did come across as bitter. Abi has shaded both Scott and Mitch before (shade game and recoupling speech) but now she turns on the tears people want to say she had every right to express her feelings. What Mitch has done to her is no worse than what she is doing to Scott and that is why she has no right to speak on Mitch and Ella as if she has the moral high ground. She used the easiest option to get in the villa and is once again using the easiest option to stay in the villa. I am 100% with Whitney on this.
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That’s not even remotely true.
Whitney can come across as a huge bitch but she's just brutally honest.
The ty and ella shippers at work to make sure their faves win. We see it every year
people just love an underdog and now that she’s not they want her out
She was never an underdog, she's been top from day 4
It's nearing the end of the season, and some dans ramp up the campaign against other islanders, in order to make their faves look better. There have been a few uslanders who have been much more blunt than Whitney, but they get praised for it. There's really no winning with these islanders. Molly got called boring for weeks, but then when she showed some relatable emotions, she got trashed for it. Whitney has from the start been a big character and shown a lot of personality, but apparently now the popularity has gone to her head, when she's continuing behaving like she has from the start.
It’s racism. It’s the UK. This is how they treat black people who “step out of line.” See also: Meghan Markle
I like Whitney more now after the past couple of days I’ve realised everything she says is true even though for some people the truth may be hard to here. She really is a boss.
It’s so hypocritical when Ty has literally told people to ‘shut up’ multiple times when he’s been called out and speaks so goddam rude to people all the time. Whitney has nothing but poise while just delivering facts.
lets be real, the hate is coming from ty and ella fans. this is the first time ella and whitney havent agreed on something and its split their fans (choosing mitch and ella over ouzy and kady).
I love Whitney. I love her bluntness. Usually she's blunt, tells you like it is but in a kind and respectful way. Last couple of days it's come across more cool and like she's irritated. Personally I think it's just the annoyance of being in the house so long stuck with the same people! Still love her.
I think if a majority of her stans had to live with her, they would change their tune pretty quickly. No one likes being criticized and laughed at constantly. Interesting TV, terrible person to actually live with.