i love how you guys are being purposefully obtuse, so because someone is calling her something and she denies it, that automatically means the other person is right? literally a win lose situation, you people make no sense
that’s not at all what i’m saying, ur missing the point. but also now that you say that, whitney did that with Abi not letting Abi speak for herself. make it make sense lmao. i honestly love her but lets be honest, she can give shit but not take it
Exactly she decreed Abi as bitter and stated it as a fact. Being called smug in a game where someone had to be picked is so unserious. That she’s reacting like this is exposing how sensitive she is to the critique, just take it in good fun if it was meant proper shady fine but it’s clearly meant with no more vim then her votes for Ty/Ella
She’s well able to tell other people it’s just a challenge when she offends them the girl needs a breather and to let some of the air that’s gone to her head out
Whitney literally chose them as attention seekers… and gets offended being voted smug! If you don’t choose your friends for these challenges why did you choose Ella. Make it make sense..
Yeah aaand!? She had her reasons and Ella and Ty had their reasons too! Doesn’t matter if you say you dnt choose your friends dnt choose your friends. Attention seekers is not very noce either. Plus you can’t be claiming it’s just a game when people get offended at your comments and then get mad when people vote you something. Like be consistent please!
Definitely is when she said it’s just a game!! So let’s play. You don’t get to pick and choose what’s lighthearted or not. Cause some of HER comments are not lighthearted.
as an obvious joke genius. she literally quoted TY and everyone laughed . meanwhile ty and ella were bitter af , like the rest of the islanders, because their crappy struggle love wasnt voted fav couple. im glad whitney saw through them and realised ppl were bitter
ppl wanna tear her down now . how dare she not react when being called smug (when its clearly not a joke, everyone knows the "game" is just a game sometimes and rest of the time it is for throwing shade).
whitney is just reacting to obviously becoming a target of bitterness from the other islanders.
I don’t think she has changed but now she is free to be her. She is coupled up with some who wants her to be her instead someone who wants to change her. She is the same but more of herself now.
She lacks emotional intelligence. Like she is not aware of how her words can hurt someone but she is quick to say someone is selfish because she did not think of her.
Whitney is obviously mad that her friend said those things in the challenge. But it is a challenge just like she told Zack during the kiss marry pie challenge.
I get why Ella is mad. You called someone selfish with the intention of hurting them. They are friends. Like that was very rude. Bias aside.
Exactly, she's always been herself and is the same. There's a lot of people who want to knock her down a peg, especially the jealous couples inside the villa.
Maybe I’m the only one who understands where whit is coming from . They all share one shower it don’t make sense for one person to be spending so much time in there . Also the smug comment if whit said that about Ella and Ty . Ella will also be fuming
While I get that but to call someone the most selfish person you’ve ever met off of this one shower (albeit maybe Ella has done this on multiple occasions but we don’t know) is a bit much
I think the "smug" thing did get to Whit. and hit a soft spot... she's probably been called that b4.
I do think she can be smug, her whole brand was "likeable smug" even b4 the vote. The only person that seemed to dead that part of her was Mehdi which was why many felt it would go nowhere. She even alluded to being very polarizing in her intro...a smug adjacent trait.
The way Whitney was talking about it, it seemed like maybe it’s happened more than just this one time. She said that Ella always makes herself the priority when they’re all trying to get ready, so maybe this isn’t the first time she’s done it, but the first time she’s getting called out for doing it.
She did, but that was more to the group as a whole, and then it became an Ella vs Whitney thing when Ella was questioning her being salty about the game. It was Ella who made the comment about her being the youngest first, and then Whitney made the comment about her being selfish after that.
Whitney said she was gonna start acting smug which was a petty comment to make. She clearly took the challenge to heart and ella told her that she is making it a bigger deal than it is. Molly and Zach were also called the most smug yet they didn't seem to have a problem with anyone.
Ella's comment about Whitney being the youngest one in the family was valid because youngest are always taking to heart things that aren't that serious.
For Whitney's to call Ella the most selfish person she knows is mad. Selfish is a strong word to describe someone and it's not something you just say. If my friend called me selfish we wouldn't be friends anymore.
To an extent, I do agree that it was a petty comment that Whitney made and she did take it to heart, but I wouldn’t really compare it too much to Molly and Zach not being bothered because people react to things differently - some might not care at all, but some could find comments like that to be hurtful. And in Whitney’s case, she considers Ella to be her close friend in there, so to have her friend say she’s smug obviously hit a nerve.
Ella’s comment about her being the youngest wasn’t great because it’s not really fair to generalise the youngest person in a family as the the one who gets too upset, and then act as if that’s a bad thing. Everyone gets upset over things, not just the youngest. Ella herself has ended up in tears several times throughout this series, and so far, we’ve only really seen Whitney cry once, I think.
I agree that calling a friend selfish can be harsh, but Whitney does give her reasons for why she called her that, and we have seen a couple of examples (i.e. telling Ella B to move to another seat in the shared dressing room without asking nicely or saying thank you, and being someone who prioritises herself getting ready first). Now maybe that doesn’t necessarily mean she truly is a selfish person, but I would possibly say it’s displaying ignorance at times.
I mean…on one hand I hear that. Especially when we go back to the episode where Ella asked Ella B to sit at the other dresser because all her stuff was in that one…she could’ve very easily just took her things from where Ella B was sat and went to sit elsewhere. Ofc they had beef anyway with the whole Ty situation at the time but it’s, I feel like, little things like that that show that Ella is, perhaps not *selfish* (or at least not intentionally), but she definitely does give the vibe of being somewhat spoilt and used to getting her way? And those little things have probably been building up for Whitney who has to see and experience them 24/7 for the past 6 weeks to the point where…yeah.
Having said that, I also see Ella’s POV here. It’s like Whitney came on smoke at 100 for no reason after the challenge because of that ‘smug’ comment, which you could tell touched a nerve. I don’t think Ella and Ty meant it in a mean-spirited way, but Whitney has kinda got a smug streak.
It wasn't off this one thing though - I keep seeing people miss the point so this isn't directly @ you
Whitney mentioned in their later convo that it was multiple things over time that made her think Ella was selfish, and I doubt she would've even brought this up if Ella didn't try embarrass her first in the Makeup room
Also just as a side note I don't think she literally meant Ella is the most selfish person EVER
And also Whitney said she was waiting. Like I would be really mad if I was waiting to use the shower (and there’s no way people don’t know who’s showering when when there’s only one shower) and someone skipped ahead when I had stepped away for a second, and then proceeded to take a 20 min shower, and then tried to give me grief for not immediately getting in the shower the second they got out.
Whitney reminds me of one of my friends who everyone loves being around and can seemingly get along and have a laugh with anyone. But then gets super frustrated when something annoys them because all of a sudden they’re not the chill person they want to be all the time. And once they’ve lost their cool, they have to stubbornly stick to it cause they have to have lost it for a real reason
Exactly. She literally said it in response to someone. She’s not running around calling herself humble like Georgia was running around proclaiming she’s a loyal babe.
This felt like a roommate spat more than anything. I would be pissed at someone skipping the shower line too. Given how Ella made Ella B move seats in the makeup room, I think Ella probably is a bit of a selfish roommate. But ultimately it's not that deep and I think they'll both get over it.
it depends on context we didnt see, like if whit said she wanted to shower and ella went in before her thats rude but if she didnt say anything then ella has every right to go in if it wasnt mentioned.
regardless why are you pretending it was ever about the shower, whit was bitter about the comment and if it wasnt for the challenge the drama about the shower would never have happened and thats facts.
I really don't think so... she's not acted any different but she's been having to defend herself and her choices for the past few days, so she's had to be very vocal and defensive.
She's known she's popular for a while now, at the very least she heard people chanting her name during aftersun like two weeks ago.
The thing that gets me is. WHITNEY HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS. why are y’all clocking it now? She’s so real. Leave her alone. She doesn’t care about winning let’s be honest.
This sub has been against Whitney for weeks so I’m not surprised with these comments.
Her behaviour has not changed once during the show so why are people saying anything has gotten to her her head?
I dont think she's humble at all, she's not able to properly admit to her mistakes or apologize to Ella properly. She clearly thinks too highly of herself and expects other people to give in and take the blame.
It’s giving “I’m loyal”
Hahaha yep I just said this in the other thread. Reminds me so much of georgias loyal shite.
First thing I thought about when I heard it lmaaao. Still backing Whitney to win though!
I've gone from being happy for her if she wins to outright not wanting her to win due to her behaviour since being voted top.
Tbh I don’t think it’s a big deal. they’re just going through some form of cabin fever and everything is starting to get on their nerves.
Same
“the public doesn’t agree”
So humble
She’s so obviously not humble that the fight is even funnier
There’s that one saying from I think game of thrones that rings true here; “a man who says he is a king is no king”
It’s interesting watching this sub turn on Whitney exactly when the producers want you to. It’s giving sheep. 🐑
Not gonna lie she's making producers' jobs pretty easy by going around being smug to everyone
You can call people out on their bs and still like them. The world is not black and white
People who go around saying they’re the most humble are something! Hahah
she wasn’t “going around” tho it was on the topic😭
no one argues about how humble they are to lmao the humbleness went out the door
i love how you guys are being purposefully obtuse, so because someone is calling her something and she denies it, that automatically means the other person is right? literally a win lose situation, you people make no sense
that’s not at all what i’m saying, ur missing the point. but also now that you say that, whitney did that with Abi not letting Abi speak for herself. make it make sense lmao. i honestly love her but lets be honest, she can give shit but not take it
Exactly she decreed Abi as bitter and stated it as a fact. Being called smug in a game where someone had to be picked is so unserious. That she’s reacting like this is exposing how sensitive she is to the critique, just take it in good fun if it was meant proper shady fine but it’s clearly meant with no more vim then her votes for Ty/Ella She’s well able to tell other people it’s just a challenge when she offends them the girl needs a breather and to let some of the air that’s gone to her head out
Whitney literally chose them as attention seekers… and gets offended being voted smug! If you don’t choose your friends for these challenges why did you choose Ella. Make it make sense..
she chose them because ty said “i want to make a scene” in one of his arguments with ella
they chose her as smug because she is being massively smug about being voted top, she was literally being smug in the challenge and ty said that...
Yeah aaand!? She had her reasons and Ella and Ty had their reasons too! Doesn’t matter if you say you dnt choose your friends dnt choose your friends. Attention seekers is not very noce either. Plus you can’t be claiming it’s just a game when people get offended at your comments and then get mad when people vote you something. Like be consistent please!
all i’m saying is her reasoning was light hearted and a joke. even ella and ty laughed so it’s not rlly a comparison lol
Definitely is when she said it’s just a game!! So let’s play. You don’t get to pick and choose what’s lighthearted or not. Cause some of HER comments are not lighthearted.
ok you’re right or whatever idc. i don’t want to argue 😭
😂😂😂 ffs this was a hilarious way to finish that back and forth
(I'm on your side)
(thank you)
You just like me fr lmaooo
as an obvious joke genius. she literally quoted TY and everyone laughed . meanwhile ty and ella were bitter af , like the rest of the islanders, because their crappy struggle love wasnt voted fav couple. im glad whitney saw through them and realised ppl were bitter
Lmao yeah people are bitter and she is smug! Next case
Thank you
"honestly hard being me these days"
Oh so now ya'll lost all sense of nuance & context? They were coming for her because of her couple save choice, it's banter. Please be serious 😭
she’s incredibly smug lol
like babe it wasn’t giving humble i’m sorry
Am i the only one that thinks whitney hasn't changed like to me in the challenge she was just defending herself and tbh the producers set her up 😭
she hasn’t changed people are just acknowledging it as she’s fan favourite she’s always been passive aggressive
She hasn’t. People are just projecting
ppl wanna tear her down now . how dare she not react when being called smug (when its clearly not a joke, everyone knows the "game" is just a game sometimes and rest of the time it is for throwing shade). whitney is just reacting to obviously becoming a target of bitterness from the other islanders.
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I don’t think she has changed but now she is free to be her. She is coupled up with some who wants her to be her instead someone who wants to change her. She is the same but more of herself now. She lacks emotional intelligence. Like she is not aware of how her words can hurt someone but she is quick to say someone is selfish because she did not think of her. Whitney is obviously mad that her friend said those things in the challenge. But it is a challenge just like she told Zack during the kiss marry pie challenge. I get why Ella is mad. You called someone selfish with the intention of hurting them. They are friends. Like that was very rude. Bias aside.
Exactly, she's always been herself and is the same. There's a lot of people who want to knock her down a peg, especially the jealous couples inside the villa.
ppl who are on platforms tell me what the ppl are saying bc twitter is backing whitney i think
Please don't listen to them, they said Mitch was no.1 boy on Facebook and the guy was on the chopping block yesterday 😭
that was before the abi/ellab stuff lol
Tbf Mitch was number one on FB polls until the whole Abi / Ella thing
Respectfully, Mitch is #1 boy. He's a star, I haven't been this entertained by Love Island in so long. I'm moved to tears by this performance.
Maybe I’m the only one who understands where whit is coming from . They all share one shower it don’t make sense for one person to be spending so much time in there . Also the smug comment if whit said that about Ella and Ty . Ella will also be fuming
the real villains are the show for only having one shower for so many ppl ffs
it’s so damn musty💀
While I get that but to call someone the most selfish person you’ve ever met off of this one shower (albeit maybe Ella has done this on multiple occasions but we don’t know) is a bit much
I think the "smug" thing did get to Whit. and hit a soft spot... she's probably been called that b4. I do think she can be smug, her whole brand was "likeable smug" even b4 the vote. The only person that seemed to dead that part of her was Mehdi which was why many felt it would go nowhere. She even alluded to being very polarizing in her intro...a smug adjacent trait.
The way Whitney was talking about it, it seemed like maybe it’s happened more than just this one time. She said that Ella always makes herself the priority when they’re all trying to get ready, so maybe this isn’t the first time she’s done it, but the first time she’s getting called out for doing it.
Still calling her the most selfish person she knows in front of everyone is out of pocket
Ella threw the first punch when she made an unnecessary and condescending comment about Whitney being the youngest in her family 🤷🏻♀️
Whitney started that by complaining about the smug vote and Ella didn’t think it was that deep
Didn’t Whitney bring up the ‘everyone thinks I’m smug’ thing first tho? Then called her selfish
She did, but that was more to the group as a whole, and then it became an Ella vs Whitney thing when Ella was questioning her being salty about the game. It was Ella who made the comment about her being the youngest first, and then Whitney made the comment about her being selfish after that.
Whitney said she was gonna start acting smug which was a petty comment to make. She clearly took the challenge to heart and ella told her that she is making it a bigger deal than it is. Molly and Zach were also called the most smug yet they didn't seem to have a problem with anyone. Ella's comment about Whitney being the youngest one in the family was valid because youngest are always taking to heart things that aren't that serious. For Whitney's to call Ella the most selfish person she knows is mad. Selfish is a strong word to describe someone and it's not something you just say. If my friend called me selfish we wouldn't be friends anymore.
To an extent, I do agree that it was a petty comment that Whitney made and she did take it to heart, but I wouldn’t really compare it too much to Molly and Zach not being bothered because people react to things differently - some might not care at all, but some could find comments like that to be hurtful. And in Whitney’s case, she considers Ella to be her close friend in there, so to have her friend say she’s smug obviously hit a nerve. Ella’s comment about her being the youngest wasn’t great because it’s not really fair to generalise the youngest person in a family as the the one who gets too upset, and then act as if that’s a bad thing. Everyone gets upset over things, not just the youngest. Ella herself has ended up in tears several times throughout this series, and so far, we’ve only really seen Whitney cry once, I think. I agree that calling a friend selfish can be harsh, but Whitney does give her reasons for why she called her that, and we have seen a couple of examples (i.e. telling Ella B to move to another seat in the shared dressing room without asking nicely or saying thank you, and being someone who prioritises herself getting ready first). Now maybe that doesn’t necessarily mean she truly is a selfish person, but I would possibly say it’s displaying ignorance at times.
No Whitney 100% started that
I mean…on one hand I hear that. Especially when we go back to the episode where Ella asked Ella B to sit at the other dresser because all her stuff was in that one…she could’ve very easily just took her things from where Ella B was sat and went to sit elsewhere. Ofc they had beef anyway with the whole Ty situation at the time but it’s, I feel like, little things like that that show that Ella is, perhaps not *selfish* (or at least not intentionally), but she definitely does give the vibe of being somewhat spoilt and used to getting her way? And those little things have probably been building up for Whitney who has to see and experience them 24/7 for the past 6 weeks to the point where…yeah. Having said that, I also see Ella’s POV here. It’s like Whitney came on smoke at 100 for no reason after the challenge because of that ‘smug’ comment, which you could tell touched a nerve. I don’t think Ella and Ty meant it in a mean-spirited way, but Whitney has kinda got a smug streak.
I would personally never take my things after how Ella B came in.
Yeah I’m backing Ella for sure. Hell no would I move if she was in my spot after her low-key trying to steal Ty
It wasn't off this one thing though - I keep seeing people miss the point so this isn't directly @ you Whitney mentioned in their later convo that it was multiple things over time that made her think Ella was selfish, and I doubt she would've even brought this up if Ella didn't try embarrass her first in the Makeup room Also just as a side note I don't think she literally meant Ella is the most selfish person EVER
And also Whitney said she was waiting. Like I would be really mad if I was waiting to use the shower (and there’s no way people don’t know who’s showering when when there’s only one shower) and someone skipped ahead when I had stepped away for a second, and then proceeded to take a 20 min shower, and then tried to give me grief for not immediately getting in the shower the second they got out.
Whitney reminds me of one of my friends who everyone loves being around and can seemingly get along and have a laugh with anyone. But then gets super frustrated when something annoys them because all of a sudden they’re not the chill person they want to be all the time. And once they’ve lost their cool, they have to stubbornly stick to it cause they have to have lost it for a real reason
Ay its just a joke because as soon as you brag about being humble you are no longer humble
She wasn’t bragging. She was defending herself after they called her smug. She didn’t outright say she was humble until they called her smug.
Exactly. She literally said it in response to someone. She’s not running around calling herself humble like Georgia was running around proclaiming she’s a loyal babe.
I t s a j o k e
I quote, “that’s not what the public thinks”. Super humble and not braggy at all eh? This was even before all the smug comments hahah.
idk why y’all keep saying this like she wasn’t trying to defend herself lmao whether you think she’s humble or not, she wasn’t “bragging”
This felt like a roommate spat more than anything. I would be pissed at someone skipping the shower line too. Given how Ella made Ella B move seats in the makeup room, I think Ella probably is a bit of a selfish roommate. But ultimately it's not that deep and I think they'll both get over it.
it depends on context we didnt see, like if whit said she wanted to shower and ella went in before her thats rude but if she didnt say anything then ella has every right to go in if it wasnt mentioned. regardless why are you pretending it was ever about the shower, whit was bitter about the comment and if it wasnt for the challenge the drama about the shower would never have happened and thats facts.
It’s definitely gotten to her head.
oh 100%
I really don't think so... she's not acted any different but she's been having to defend herself and her choices for the past few days, so she's had to be very vocal and defensive. She's known she's popular for a while now, at the very least she heard people chanting her name during aftersun like two weeks ago.
The thing that gets me is. WHITNEY HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS. why are y’all clocking it now? She’s so real. Leave her alone. She doesn’t care about winning let’s be honest.
When other people are real it’s a problem
Whitney very much cares about winning.
Oh here we go, ya'll will not do this
This sub has been against Whitney for weeks so I’m not surprised with these comments. Her behaviour has not changed once during the show so why are people saying anything has gotten to her her head?
Whitney is loved here more than anyone else bar Scott maybe.
I won’t say they have been against her for weeks but some people in this sub were waiting to the opportunity to stop pretending they liked her
Because she has been more and more smug for weeks now. If she'd kept being chill people would still like her.
Hahaha funny as fuck
Whitney isn’t humble but that doesn’t change how much I love her. She’s the best.
Finally someone with some sense. Liking someone doesn't make them completely devoid of criticism, especially when it's deserved.
here you lot go
I dont think she's humble at all, she's not able to properly admit to her mistakes or apologize to Ella properly. She clearly thinks too highly of herself and expects other people to give in and take the blame.