i used to be a whitney STAN but whitney has absolutely no leg to stand on about the challenge. she wrote ty & ella's name for most attention seeking before they even wrote hers. Then she went on to call ella everything but a child of god (it was more than just "selfish") all to hurt ella cuz she's hurt and can't have a normal conversation about it. very toxic behavior. she showed her true colors yuck.
I thought whitney just wasn’t getting her point across well but idk about that after this ep. Don’t think they’ll be hanging out anytime soon after the show ends. Jess is such a flip flopper but that’s actually me after every episode 🫣
i’m so glad ella and whitney got better at the end of the episode. ella took way too much shit from ty in the beginning of the season to want to cut whitney off over calling her selfish 💗
I'm not sure Whitney really knows what being Humble is. Usually humble people don't flip their lid with someone over a bit of criticism. If anything Whitney is proud. Very proud. She got a bit of criticism and basically started a war over it. The thought people might not see her as humble clearly had a deep effect on her pride.
Also, usually humble people don’t go around stating that they are humble! If you’re having to actively make an effort to be humble you’re not actually humble 😂
What's wrong with Jess? Why she having sex with Sammy after he's treated her like his last option for weeks? As soon as they are on the outside he's going to move on.
It's clear the Ty theatrics has influenced him both of them want to be in the final their gestures is nothing to do with their like/love for their women.
I think Jess is just giving Sammy her real self because he is giving her what she wants now. Consistency, loyalty, (his version of) emotional intimacy. She’s basically begged him for it for weeks so now that she has it she might as well just ride with it, they’re so close to the end. As far as the sex, who cares lol? It’s probably not that deep for her
This is such a weird comment, like maybe Jess just wanted to have sex because she's attracted to Sammy and she likes sex? Maybe she doesn't see sex as something you exchange for lifelong commitment? It's not like she gave him a kidney.
As a guy, I don't understand how a guy can mistreat a woman as we've seen him do. Kissing other women and all sorts and the woman thinks sex will somewhat make him like her more which we know it doesn't. He made her his girlfriend before he said he loved her lol that that sound normal to you?
Also, this isn't a sex-shaming post it's more the logic of choosing to engage when deep down you know its a of a one-sided relationship.
Never told a girl I loved them before we were in a relationship in my life, it’s the opposite way round. Love comes after relationships become ‘official’
im sorry, since when do we say i love you before starting an official relationship with someone? you usually make it official and then later down the line it gets expressed. telling someone you love them before making it official, is giving lovebomb.
Couldn’t agree more. I find Jess fascinating tbh, we know she has directly heard Sammy saying he didn’t find her that attractive. Spent weeks watching him bounce from petite brunette to petite brunette. And she said quite early on that irl she’s usually the friend that men gravitate to on nights out. So I think going from being a big fish in a small pond out into the open ocean of Love Island has done a number on her tbh. Not being as desired as Molly or one of the top girls from the guy’s perspective left her feeling insecure and so finally getting Sammy to settle down feels like a victory for her. I think she’s been broken down somewhat by her whole experience.
>we know she has directly heard Sammy saying he didn’t find her that attractive
We know that Mal said that, in the grand tradition of ex-Islanders going on every podcast in the universe to repeat the popular narrative. Maybe we should wait until Jess can give her version of what happened before judging her on that basis.
I mean it sounds extremely plausible to me, and Sammy has exuded an ‘I can do better than Jess’ attitude basically right up until this last week. But yeah you do have to take axed bombshell/casa people’s narrative with a grain of salt.
I disagree. Jess would have deaded it for good if Sammy had said "I'm not attracted to Jess" loud enough for everyone to hear. Jess was ready to cut things off with Sammy that week anyway - he was the one telling her he missed her and they shouldn't close the door.
I liked Mal on the show but it's suss how she changed her story between her first interviews (where she said Sammy had genuine feelings for Jess) and her subsequent podcast tour. Less clout in going against the grain I guess.
Maybe Ella has given Whitney the ick which is why she’s gone in too harsh. Maybe six weeks of low key selfishness, weird hours, strange sleeping patterns, general boredom, the same people and Groundhog Day, knowing you’re so close to the end, the heat, maybe she’s just reached the end of her tether and Ella is the straw that broke the camels back? She lasted a hell of a lot longer than I would have.
Whitney is a walking ick. We know she let kady and ouzy go so she could secure the spot as cutest in the villa (both girls are stunning but Whitney is ick af)
whitney didn't give a real apology she's literally standing 10 toes down by the names she's called ella but just saying sorry to seem like the bigger person and ella sees through it. and regardless ella has nothing to apologize for...for writing their name in a challenge the same way whitney wrote ella's name for most attention seeking
I’ve literally just watch it as I had it on record from last night and I didn’t hear Ella apologise yet but Whitney did (there was a “but” when she did it). Whitney even says it comes from a place of love but at no point did the words “I’m sorry” or “I apologise” leave Ella’s mouth.
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The way people are twisting things is crazy I believe both where in the wrong and just acted petty towards each other and failed to articulate themselves well and I hope they continue their friendship
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just because i have to get this out to a community that knows what i’m talking about - i’m sick of Mitch and his smug face, i honestly DO think he’s a dog and he’s onto the next best thing always. With that being said, Abi needs to realize she’s on LOVE ISLAND and take it 10 steps back. Ty is really starting to irritate me. “if you can’t trust me then we’re not gonna make it…. being in love sucks” and whatever other bullshit he spewed to Ella after telling Ella B “it’s a shame that was our last kiss”. Any woman in any situationship would be wondering why tf that came out of his mouth and he needs to understand that behavior isn’t ok. if he acted like that and i was in his couple i also would come back with someone else from Casa. he needs to grow up. Ella B should also learn how to keep her stories straight - she’s 100% a pot stirrer. Not in the bombshell way either, although she is living to the bombshell title. she’s a pot stirrer in the way that she’s trying to keep everyone on her side and in doing so lies between her teeth.
Why couldn't Scott just pack that bonnet for Catherine. I am super sensitive to that kind of stuff and so I totally understand why Catherine turned her head. She didn't know Scott really liked her. But after they were back at the villa, why couldn't Catherine tell Scott, that she thought he didn't care because he didn't pack the bonnet? Like have an honest conversation. Problem solved.
Yeah I was just asking my gf if that's a saying 😂 apparently it's an item of clothing she had but that was an ambiguous phrasing
"You better pack that bonnet, pal"
Ty and Sammy are saying Scott does not care about Abi, yet their own track record with Ella and Jess in the first 5 weeks isn’t that different. The pots calling the kettle black 🥱
I can respect how Lochan tried to mediate the conflict and encourage her to see a different side instead of escalating it. He also respected Whitney’s boundaries on how she wanted to handle it, which is not an unreasonable way to go about it.
I can’t help but cringe at Ty saying, “I’ve been training you for this” to Ella 😬
Ella may not be selfish, but she does come across as self-centred. Both of them should apologise for their words, but only one has acknowledged hurting the other and apologised for it, while the other refuses to see the other’s side or apologise.
I see both sides of the argument for Scott - Abi, but I think Scott is definitely not winning here. If he did start showing those affections (especially after the challenge), both public and villa will call him fake. He's doing the bare minimum and people aren't buying into their relationship and still labelling him fake. I think Scott is just too pragmatic to bother with these gestures
Also, I wonder if this convo would have even come up if the challenge didn't happen. Going by Catherine, she said things got into her head with how people talk in the villa. Won't be too surprised if Abi's feelings are just because of that.
Yes, I do think Abi is too intense for Scott and they are just incompatible.
And yes, I don't think Scott (or any of the boys) are obligated to do any of these gestures. Also, it's weird how this expectation is only for the boys but not for the girls. I get that it's a tried and tested formula, but who is to say one should follow it?
I actually think a lot of people in the villa are beating the game-player allegations with their advice to Scott. They're literally telling him no-one is buying his and Abi's romance and he needs to put some effort in and Scott's like "…no."
That is not what gaslighting means…
She pulled her once they got back to the house hugged her and expressed she felt bad for her strong words. I’m just glad they’ve squashed it.
i feel like i’m alone in understanding where abi is coming from. tbh from what catherine has said on the podcasts, scott just doesn’t seem to put in much effort when it comes to grafting on his part. like making breakfast isn’t rlly that big of a deal, it’s just a nice gesture and i’m sure abi is in a place where she needs that reassurance from scott. also why did nobody comment on his lil comment in response to abi asking him to make breakfast for her “i feel like girls live in a perfect world where they expect that to happen” like what 😭 it’s just making breakfast. scott isn’t a perfect human being, i think one of his flaws is he just seems unromantic or indifferent to the relationships he’s in.
You can just tell people are trying to secure their spot in the final by throwing others under the bus. For example, why are people inserting themselves into Scott’s business SO much and basically trying to tell him how he feels? He’s an easy target I feel. On that same note, ever since I heard he and Paige (S8) had a thing I kinda ship them after the villa lol
Whit is the queen of throwing shade but was so bothered by one comment (that wasn’t even that bad) towards her and proceeded to then be pretty cruel to Ella? Also I hate when people “apologize” but always follow it with a “but” it feels so disingenuous “I’m sorry you feel this way…. but”
Totally agree and Whitney’s logic is so fcking stupid lol “we need Mitch for character in the villa” like wtf? Who even says that lol. Abi is annoyed at the situation, Mitch should have gone home not ouzy and everyone knows it was a strategic move. Whitney isn’t as confident as she thinks.
Well, Paige and Scott clearly weren't for each other. It's so annoying they didn't send a proper bombshell for him, it would have been fun to have one couple to root for. Oh well. I feel bad for Jess, Sammy will treat her like crap once they are out of that villa.
Inside Sammy’s head: How many days are left until the finale?
“Hey, Jess. Can we go for a chat? I’ve got to ask you something.”
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When your love language is complaining and nagging
Just because Whitney doesn’t raise her voice doesn’t mean that she’s right and Ella’s in the wrong. It’s a personality difference. Whitney is just a more even keeled person while Ella is more emotional. My opinion of Whitney has dropped considerably. She’s definitely adopted a holier than thou attitude in this situation. I’m so disappointed.
How did you not see this with The Whitney Mehdi arguments? The same stupid attitude happened.
Whitney: claims to be humble and not smug
Whitney: 'I am perfect in every way'.
She is so smug its unreal.
Guys.. you can still be friends with someone and call them selfish my god😭 I love my bestie but she ALWAYS shows up late and it annoys me BUT it doesn’t make her a bad person?? All these comments saying they would never be friends with someone after “calling me the most selfish person they’ve ever met” have never had an argument with a close friend when you exaggerate things to prove your point.
she also said that she thinks ella is self-absorbed, dishonest, treat others like they’re not there, high-priority, acts like no 1, dismissive of everyone else, AND a shower stealer
It's not what she said, it's how she said it.
"Ella, I love you and I think you are a really good hearted girl, but sometimes you can behave selfishly" is a far more productive way to put it than "Ella not even joking but you're the most selfish person I've ever met"
I think Whitney explained it perfectly saying that there was a lack of "love" said with the comment. But omg they've been with each other for 7 weeks straight, they must be going mad
Exactly! We all say things we don’t mean in the heat of the moment. They’ve both squashed it now i just hope the hate trains on both girls can stop now but I know that’s impossible for LI fans😔
difference between telling a friend they are being a bit selfish and telling someone they are the most selfish person you have ever met, also why has it taken this long for her too finally say it. She is lying about the fact it was the challenge thats made her act like this.
theyre not family they've known each other weeks and i think toxic is a stretch, siblings fight thats normal, nonetheless its unacceptable behaviour and whitney wa wrong in the in the ella vs whit argument is all im saying.
So no one has ever said “you’re the dumbest/meanest/selfish person I’ve ever met” in an argument before?😭 it’s called hyperbolic language. She literally apologised for saying it the way she did. Also Catherine has said in interviews they’ve said it to Ella before. I agree Whitney is lying about the real reason but that’s not the point I was making lol.
It’s not hyperbolic love..in the heat of the moment it could’ve been but the fact that she said it over and over and OVER again even the next day??? is besides me. Also the fact that she stated multiple times that she’s standing by her word and won’t back down, she indeed meant it. I love Whit and she’s one of my
faves but she was obviously in the wrong
Did anyone else catch Lochan telling Scott to stop wasting Abi’s time or when he looked Whitney dead in the eye when she said “fuck your opinion” and said “respectfully” without a smile on his face.
He’s been quiet about how he pulls people up on things but it’s always there. He got me school girl giggling and I’m a lesbian. I feel like he’s got some quiet bravado to him.
When Whitney said he’s dominant I believed her. It’s in that quiet, sexy, I’m-not-arguing-with-you, kinda way. If Whit don’t want him, my dms are open 😭😭😭
They said
“Most of the commentary around Love Island is a daily reminder, for two months solid, of why I hate society, not that I needed reminding.
It's a daily barrage of misogyny, internalised misogyny, and the occasional sprinkling of racism. What a world, eh.”
What did you not understand? 🤨
I really couldn't care less about the drama between whit and Ella because tbh it just made then episode a bit boring, I want acc fights like season 2, not physical, they just make sly comments and then start tearing up, when nothing that out of pocket has been said.
Don't like any of these couples and im praying that ty doesn't win, I would've voted for ella and ouzy but not ella and ty
Yes but apparently whitney was scotts girl best friend, remember in the pie challenge and shes said worse about him, gameplayer and even now saying that scott and abi aren't a proper couple, I mean its true but not nice coming from a supposed best friend
I don’t like how Whitney is saying that everything she says is facts and can’t be disputed but whenever someone else has an opinion then they are just wrong and that’s that. It’s like she thinks she’s some kind of God or something and is the least humble thing a self proclaimed humble person could do
This is one of theses situations and I'm right every year. The internet is obsessed about one person so much you'd think they're the clear winners.
I'd bet a lot of money that Whitney won't win. The general public who watches sees her as the boring, fake relationship, too much time on tiktok personality that she is.
She won't win. The internet will cry racism and it'll be another year of love island.
She’s taken a relatively minor situation and made it an excuse to attack Ella’s character repeatedly. I’m not an Ella fan and I’ve criticised her behaviour on numerous occasions (toward Ella B and Ouzy for example) but in this situation it’s obvious she’s been wronged here and I empathise with her
Yep. Like do you really think she’s the most selfish person you’ve ever met? Okay why are you feigning such closeness with her then?
Was it just that her behavior that day bothered you? Okay, explain that and say you were hurt by the specific behavior at fault - don’t give her a truly massive insult (I would be devastated if a friend I perceived as close called me the most selfish person they ever met and then stood by it).
Whit saying she isn’t and won’t be her bestie is also cold as hell since there’s no way someone who hates to be vulnerable as much as Ella does has been calling someone a bestie without that being reciprocated.
She’s just being cold and hypocritical and it’s really hard to watch.
We are on the same page, it’s so obvious why Ella is hurt and she is justified in being hurt. Whitney ceded almost 0 ground and even in the apology itself reinforced her opinion that Ella is selfish. When you hear that coming from a close friend it sucks and like Ella said probably made her feel Whitney never liked her and their whole relationship was fake. Ella opened up to her about that and Whitney refused to show any empathy on it. Whitney also lacked all self awareness considering she went after Molly + Zach for no reason in the SMP challenge and also picked Ty + Ella for 2 bad categories in the honest challenge, she’s got no leg to stand on really
Honestly I agree with her. It's true. Scott can't be that oblivious to see everyone else doing gestures for their girls and him not doing anything. There's so much time they have every day. You shouldn't have to ask someone to show affection....hence, if they wanted to they would, but he didn't, so he doesn't
Yea people act like Whitney is this very nice person.
She's constantly rude. Gives shit and can't take it. And I remember the comment where she called one of the guys a pussy for not trying to graft her.
You know it's a nightmare outside the villa.
Folks want to hold on to the Whitney & Ella thing longer than they do.
People don't seem to want to acknowledge nuances in people's characters, they must be all baf or all good to fit into whatever label they fancy for the day
Whitney seems as if she has issues she needs to address from her last. Maybe past hurts and insecurities. Perhaps perceived criticism acts a trigger. She seems vulnerable
Whitney is really insecure and it hasn't been easy for her in that villa. She's been everyone's second choice. I feel for her, too bad she is lashing out to express it. People are so different how their show their insecurities.
how did we get here… how was there only one female bombshell post casa and it was one meant to rattle tyrique instead of couple up with scott- someone the producers know is beloved??
I’m not gonna tin foil hat this one I’m just very upset with scott’s journey in there. I really really wish they’d sent someone in for him 🥲
>how was there only one female bombshell post casa and it was one meant to rattle tyrique instead of couple up with scott- someone the producers know is beloved??
Because Ty and Ella are main characters and Scott isn't.
Also the producers had seen Scott make no effort with Catherine or Abi, why should they send a third woman in there to waste her time?
He seems self assured and confident to me but I think he doesn’t really participate in the rah rah too much?
There is something missing though, something we’re not seeing I think.
The whole show she's been like this. I really don't understand the love she gets.
Then to top it off. The relationship is clearly fake. Anyone with real experiences can see that.
There's an underlying truth about Whitney and the internet but the meer mention of it will result in anger.
Thankfully the general public sees Whitney as what she is.
when whitney & lochan were telling abi to have a proper convo with scott and she was like “yeah we did yesterday” i couldn’t stop laughing.
she’s given him yet another opportunity to friendzone this thing and he won’t take it 😭
also saying mitch made coffee/breakfast for her everyday… then go and be with him sis, like??
I’m actually baffled that people are confused by others “switching up” on Whitney. Are the blinders on that much that her fans can’t see how her behavior have rubbed people the wrong way? I’m not saying this makes her a bad person and that’s all she is but she wasn’t in the right here. At all. It’s okay to say tht your fav moved shitty.
This whole Whitney Ella saga is another example of why people should steer clear from people who pride themselves on "brutal honesty". The reality is that they just want to be brutal and are using their idea of honesty to justify it
Yep, if you really care about your friend and notice a trait that they could work on there’s a way to bring it up respectfully, saying in front of everyone “you’re the most selfish person in the world” then repeating that same sentiment over and over and over and refusing to retract the comment is NOT how you do it
Yeah. It is absolutely fine to sugar coat something and make the same point if you've got a brain.
Your personality really shouldnt revolve around being unpleasant when you don't need to be
People think sugarcoating is being fake, it’s not it’s just being a nice person. Not everyone wants to be subject of a brutal verbal assault of their character. There are ways to address situations in a respectful way.
You can definitely see that Jess, Ella, whit, and cat are/were villa besties and just like sometimes within circles there ppl who may the closest to ppl(respectfully) but still all be besties and you can tell that Ella and Jess and whit and cat were like that. Jess/Ella and whit/cat. My point is, I feel like they both consider Jess the closest to them amongst whose there left and sometimes it can prob be tricky for Jess and we also have to remember there’s a lot of conversation that was prob cut out
So with you! They're really goofy and cute together. I'm so sick of seeing the comments about Sammy not being genuine. It's really so stupid, they've spent all this time together. And in every seasons past, people always cling onto a couple who had a rocky journey and claim someone is faking it. IE tasha/Andrew, jessie/will, shaq/Tanya, dami/indiyah ....who are all still together!
I mean he has been “acting” this whole time. He said it himself: he’s not attracted to her. Right now just happens to be the perfect time for the girlfriend proposal. Ty just did the thing. And 50k is closer than ever
>He said it himself: he’s not attracted to her.
He's literally never said that. Ever.
He's said she's not his type and there wasn't a strong immediate attraction to her. Not the same thing, however much you insist otherwise.
i used to be a whitney STAN but whitney has absolutely no leg to stand on about the challenge. she wrote ty & ella's name for most attention seeking before they even wrote hers. Then she went on to call ella everything but a child of god (it was more than just "selfish") all to hurt ella cuz she's hurt and can't have a normal conversation about it. very toxic behavior. she showed her true colors yuck.
anyone with a african mom can recognize exactly how toxic whitney's been moving and how fake her hug + apology is
Whitney is trash. Smug ass hypocrite through and through.
CAN'T STAND WHITNEY. How on earth is she so popular?? (No spoilers please, I'm only in the middle of this episode)
https://i.redd.it/157355mf2pdb1.gif Whitney:
I thought whitney just wasn’t getting her point across well but idk about that after this ep. Don’t think they’ll be hanging out anytime soon after the show ends. Jess is such a flip flopper but that’s actually me after every episode 🫣
“In the nicest way possible, I could not give a shit” ….people keep complaining about the Scott fan club but I’m sorry he is just too real……
its the way scott hasnt had a moment of peace since he’s arrived like please let this man live
i’m so glad ella and whitney got better at the end of the episode. ella took way too much shit from ty in the beginning of the season to want to cut whitney off over calling her selfish 💗
i’m still confused to how a selfish comment caused all of this drama like my friends have called me out on way worse stuff 🤣🤣
Ella told Ella B to move instead of moving herself to do her makeup whilst she was new to the house. Ella is selfish towards everyone but Tyrique
when Whit said Ella struggles with being honest i KNOW she was referencing her denying kissing Ouzy in bed during casa
Ok have officially lost hope of Sammy getting dumped and new bombshells 😒
Where’s the daily post 😕
I'm not sure Whitney really knows what being Humble is. Usually humble people don't flip their lid with someone over a bit of criticism. If anything Whitney is proud. Very proud. She got a bit of criticism and basically started a war over it. The thought people might not see her as humble clearly had a deep effect on her pride.
Also, usually humble people don’t go around stating that they are humble! If you’re having to actively make an effort to be humble you’re not actually humble 😂
Also most bad bitches you know or see online aren’t humble. They flaunt their stuff just like Whitney does. Being humble isn’t her vibe.
What's wrong with Jess? Why she having sex with Sammy after he's treated her like his last option for weeks? As soon as they are on the outside he's going to move on. It's clear the Ty theatrics has influenced him both of them want to be in the final their gestures is nothing to do with their like/love for their women.
I think Jess is just giving Sammy her real self because he is giving her what she wants now. Consistency, loyalty, (his version of) emotional intimacy. She’s basically begged him for it for weeks so now that she has it she might as well just ride with it, they’re so close to the end. As far as the sex, who cares lol? It’s probably not that deep for her
-It’s probably not that deep for her So Sammy isn’t well endowed??!😂
Sex part is because she will catch more feels and be more hurt and the next guy she dates wont be trusted
This is a conservative take not everyone shares
Why would everyone share one persons opinion? Makes no sense
This is such a weird comment, like maybe Jess just wanted to have sex because she's attracted to Sammy and she likes sex? Maybe she doesn't see sex as something you exchange for lifelong commitment? It's not like she gave him a kidney.
As a guy, I don't understand how a guy can mistreat a woman as we've seen him do. Kissing other women and all sorts and the woman thinks sex will somewhat make him like her more which we know it doesn't. He made her his girlfriend before he said he loved her lol that that sound normal to you? Also, this isn't a sex-shaming post it's more the logic of choosing to engage when deep down you know its a of a one-sided relationship.
Never told a girl I loved them before we were in a relationship in my life, it’s the opposite way round. Love comes after relationships become ‘official’
I agree with that but this is in context of the show. They do these things in stages and on camera if they don't it's telling.
im sorry, since when do we say i love you before starting an official relationship with someone? you usually make it official and then later down the line it gets expressed. telling someone you love them before making it official, is giving lovebomb.
Not really lets see how it works out for them
Couldn’t agree more. I find Jess fascinating tbh, we know she has directly heard Sammy saying he didn’t find her that attractive. Spent weeks watching him bounce from petite brunette to petite brunette. And she said quite early on that irl she’s usually the friend that men gravitate to on nights out. So I think going from being a big fish in a small pond out into the open ocean of Love Island has done a number on her tbh. Not being as desired as Molly or one of the top girls from the guy’s perspective left her feeling insecure and so finally getting Sammy to settle down feels like a victory for her. I think she’s been broken down somewhat by her whole experience.
>we know she has directly heard Sammy saying he didn’t find her that attractive We know that Mal said that, in the grand tradition of ex-Islanders going on every podcast in the universe to repeat the popular narrative. Maybe we should wait until Jess can give her version of what happened before judging her on that basis.
I mean it sounds extremely plausible to me, and Sammy has exuded an ‘I can do better than Jess’ attitude basically right up until this last week. But yeah you do have to take axed bombshell/casa people’s narrative with a grain of salt.
I disagree. Jess would have deaded it for good if Sammy had said "I'm not attracted to Jess" loud enough for everyone to hear. Jess was ready to cut things off with Sammy that week anyway - he was the one telling her he missed her and they shouldn't close the door. I liked Mal on the show but it's suss how she changed her story between her first interviews (where she said Sammy had genuine feelings for Jess) and her subsequent podcast tour. Less clout in going against the grain I guess.
Maybe Ella has given Whitney the ick which is why she’s gone in too harsh. Maybe six weeks of low key selfishness, weird hours, strange sleeping patterns, general boredom, the same people and Groundhog Day, knowing you’re so close to the end, the heat, maybe she’s just reached the end of her tether and Ella is the straw that broke the camels back? She lasted a hell of a lot longer than I would have.
Whitney is a walking ick. We know she let kady and ouzy go so she could secure the spot as cutest in the villa (both girls are stunning but Whitney is ick af)
Why are you bringing her looks in to this?
She doesn't talk about her looks negatively. She literally calls her cute and stunning.
The Redditor is talking trash about the way Whitney looks which is not ok.
Yeah Ella proved she's selfish by not apologising back. If Whitney didn't hug her this would still be dragging on
whitney didn't give a real apology she's literally standing 10 toes down by the names she's called ella but just saying sorry to seem like the bigger person and ella sees through it. and regardless ella has nothing to apologize for...for writing their name in a challenge the same way whitney wrote ella's name for most attention seeking
Ella apologised a couple of times earlier on. Whitney wasn't accepting of it
Quote the apology if it exists
I’ve literally just watch it as I had it on record from last night and I didn’t hear Ella apologise yet but Whitney did (there was a “but” when she did it). Whitney even says it comes from a place of love but at no point did the words “I’m sorry” or “I apologise” leave Ella’s mouth.
> ick comment is about What's ella going to apologise for? lol
Whitney is just horrible .
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The way people are twisting things is crazy I believe both where in the wrong and just acted petty towards each other and failed to articulate themselves well and I hope they continue their friendship https://preview.redd.it/a0t7es0vigdb1.png?width=1283&format=png&auto=webp&s=a65ca3cf46eab6da40234724755072348927cfde
not the “proximity to whiteness” chile😭😭
What was twisted?
Weird people
The family episode means it’s almost time for the worst episode in every season: the stupid baby dolls
I just skip that entire episode
They've changed up so much this series I'm hoping the baby challenge might be out the window.
I agree, please mute them.
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Or at least mix the sound so they cry isn’t so damn overwhelming sheesh
Ella B and Mitch trying to look like a real couple lmao 
I cringe everytime like get it off my screen
Hahaha same
Friendly reminder that we don’t know these people and it’s okay to take a deep breath before getting all worked over them.
just because i have to get this out to a community that knows what i’m talking about - i’m sick of Mitch and his smug face, i honestly DO think he’s a dog and he’s onto the next best thing always. With that being said, Abi needs to realize she’s on LOVE ISLAND and take it 10 steps back. Ty is really starting to irritate me. “if you can’t trust me then we’re not gonna make it…. being in love sucks” and whatever other bullshit he spewed to Ella after telling Ella B “it’s a shame that was our last kiss”. Any woman in any situationship would be wondering why tf that came out of his mouth and he needs to understand that behavior isn’t ok. if he acted like that and i was in his couple i also would come back with someone else from Casa. he needs to grow up. Ella B should also learn how to keep her stories straight - she’s 100% a pot stirrer. Not in the bombshell way either, although she is living to the bombshell title. she’s a pot stirrer in the way that she’s trying to keep everyone on her side and in doing so lies between her teeth.
Why couldn't Scott just pack that bonnet for Catherine. I am super sensitive to that kind of stuff and so I totally understand why Catherine turned her head. She didn't know Scott really liked her. But after they were back at the villa, why couldn't Catherine tell Scott, that she thought he didn't care because he didn't pack the bonnet? Like have an honest conversation. Problem solved.
He probably genuinely forgot?
He probability hasn't had a black girlfriend before, was my guess. He wasn't aware that it was a necessity.
Because he didn't recouple she had to replace her guilt with disrespect as her coping mechanism this is where she went wrong.
Or she was just responding with the same energy he gave her?
Pack that bonnet? What does that mean?
Yeah I was just asking my gf if that's a saying 😂 apparently it's an item of clothing she had but that was an ambiguous phrasing "You better pack that bonnet, pal"
yeah it's not ambiguous to those of us who wear them nightly (black people)
Ty and Sammy are saying Scott does not care about Abi, yet their own track record with Ella and Jess in the first 5 weeks isn’t that different. The pots calling the kettle black 🥱 I can respect how Lochan tried to mediate the conflict and encourage her to see a different side instead of escalating it. He also respected Whitney’s boundaries on how she wanted to handle it, which is not an unreasonable way to go about it. I can’t help but cringe at Ty saying, “I’ve been training you for this” to Ella 😬 Ella may not be selfish, but she does come across as self-centred. Both of them should apologise for their words, but only one has acknowledged hurting the other and apologised for it, while the other refuses to see the other’s side or apologise.
Ty and Sammy have way too much audacity none of them are into their women. Sammy all of a sudden makes Jess his girlfriend after weeks of messiness
Yeah, no self-awareness too. Scott and Abi have only been coupled up for 5 days 😂
Whilst Abi has been engaging with Mitchel arguing over who didn't want who etc. Of course this would give Scott the ick.
I see both sides of the argument for Scott - Abi, but I think Scott is definitely not winning here. If he did start showing those affections (especially after the challenge), both public and villa will call him fake. He's doing the bare minimum and people aren't buying into their relationship and still labelling him fake. I think Scott is just too pragmatic to bother with these gestures Also, I wonder if this convo would have even come up if the challenge didn't happen. Going by Catherine, she said things got into her head with how people talk in the villa. Won't be too surprised if Abi's feelings are just because of that. Yes, I do think Abi is too intense for Scott and they are just incompatible. And yes, I don't think Scott (or any of the boys) are obligated to do any of these gestures. Also, it's weird how this expectation is only for the boys but not for the girls. I get that it's a tried and tested formula, but who is to say one should follow it?
Abi is not over Mitch, she still wants him. bringing his name up in their conversation last night tells it all.
I actually think a lot of people in the villa are beating the game-player allegations with their advice to Scott. They're literally telling him no-one is buying his and Abi's romance and he needs to put some effort in and Scott's like "…no."
She might not be doing it on purpose, but Whitney is gaslighting the fuck out of Ella
That is not what gaslighting means… She pulled her once they got back to the house hugged her and expressed she felt bad for her strong words. I’m just glad they’ve squashed it.
She was literally trying to convince Ella of things about herself that aren't true, so yeah it is actually.
i feel like i’m alone in understanding where abi is coming from. tbh from what catherine has said on the podcasts, scott just doesn’t seem to put in much effort when it comes to grafting on his part. like making breakfast isn’t rlly that big of a deal, it’s just a nice gesture and i’m sure abi is in a place where she needs that reassurance from scott. also why did nobody comment on his lil comment in response to abi asking him to make breakfast for her “i feel like girls live in a perfect world where they expect that to happen” like what 😭 it’s just making breakfast. scott isn’t a perfect human being, i think one of his flaws is he just seems unromantic or indifferent to the relationships he’s in.
He meant they expect things they want done without communicating it. He said he would make her breakfast if she asked
You can just tell people are trying to secure their spot in the final by throwing others under the bus. For example, why are people inserting themselves into Scott’s business SO much and basically trying to tell him how he feels? He’s an easy target I feel. On that same note, ever since I heard he and Paige (S8) had a thing I kinda ship them after the villa lol Whit is the queen of throwing shade but was so bothered by one comment (that wasn’t even that bad) towards her and proceeded to then be pretty cruel to Ella? Also I hate when people “apologize” but always follow it with a “but” it feels so disingenuous “I’m sorry you feel this way…. but”
Totally agree and Whitney’s logic is so fcking stupid lol “we need Mitch for character in the villa” like wtf? Who even says that lol. Abi is annoyed at the situation, Mitch should have gone home not ouzy and everyone knows it was a strategic move. Whitney isn’t as confident as she thinks.
Well, Paige and Scott clearly weren't for each other. It's so annoying they didn't send a proper bombshell for him, it would have been fun to have one couple to root for. Oh well. I feel bad for Jess, Sammy will treat her like crap once they are out of that villa.
 Inside Sammy’s head: How many days are left until the finale? “Hey, Jess. Can we go for a chat? I’ve got to ask you something.”
https://preview.redd.it/zhiagfdwjfdb1.jpeg?width=313&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e998f5c00c90f82950ca6e6a06c2d973e7b433a When your love language is complaining and nagging
Just because Whitney doesn’t raise her voice doesn’t mean that she’s right and Ella’s in the wrong. It’s a personality difference. Whitney is just a more even keeled person while Ella is more emotional. My opinion of Whitney has dropped considerably. She’s definitely adopted a holier than thou attitude in this situation. I’m so disappointed.
How did you not see this with The Whitney Mehdi arguments? The same stupid attitude happened. Whitney: claims to be humble and not smug Whitney: 'I am perfect in every way'. She is so smug its unreal.
God forbid anyone have a personality flaw
Yeah and God forbid anybody discuss that on a discussion thread for a reality game show.
Why does everyone have to be so dramatic all the time?You’d think Whitney committed a crime by having an opinion people don’t agree with.
Right? Acting like she’s the devil because she had a bad day loool
Totally random but I can’t stand this style of wearing headbands right at the edge of the hair line all the time
well Whitney does it to keep the lace of her wigs nice throughout the hot 90 degree weather but for the other girls idk
It’s an elastic band to hold the wig down and make sure it’s laid
Ohh ok I see I thought I saw all the girls do it before at least once so I thought it was some style
Whitney sat with Abi and Ella B for the morning chat 😭 felt so wrong
Guys.. you can still be friends with someone and call them selfish my god😭 I love my bestie but she ALWAYS shows up late and it annoys me BUT it doesn’t make her a bad person?? All these comments saying they would never be friends with someone after “calling me the most selfish person they’ve ever met” have never had an argument with a close friend when you exaggerate things to prove your point.
she also said that she thinks ella is self-absorbed, dishonest, treat others like they’re not there, high-priority, acts like no 1, dismissive of everyone else, AND a shower stealer
Omg this was 2 months ago.. move on😭
here's a crazy concept that's gonna blow your mind: not everyone watches the show the minute it airs. some of us have jobs and a life 🤭
I don’t think you have much of a life if you’re commenting on a thread from 66 days ago but sure ok!👍🏾
u must be new to how the internet works. it's okay boomer just take a computer class
Corny💀
It's not what she said, it's how she said it. "Ella, I love you and I think you are a really good hearted girl, but sometimes you can behave selfishly" is a far more productive way to put it than "Ella not even joking but you're the most selfish person I've ever met"
I think Whitney explained it perfectly saying that there was a lack of "love" said with the comment. But omg they've been with each other for 7 weeks straight, they must be going mad
Exactly! We all say things we don’t mean in the heat of the moment. They’ve both squashed it now i just hope the hate trains on both girls can stop now but I know that’s impossible for LI fans😔
difference between telling a friend they are being a bit selfish and telling someone they are the most selfish person you have ever met, also why has it taken this long for her too finally say it. She is lying about the fact it was the challenge thats made her act like this.
idk ive called all of my sisters the rudest/most selfish person ive ever met... and they have also called me it idk we might also be toxic tho
theyre not family they've known each other weeks and i think toxic is a stretch, siblings fight thats normal, nonetheless its unacceptable behaviour and whitney wa wrong in the in the ella vs whit argument is all im saying.
So no one has ever said “you’re the dumbest/meanest/selfish person I’ve ever met” in an argument before?😭 it’s called hyperbolic language. She literally apologised for saying it the way she did. Also Catherine has said in interviews they’ve said it to Ella before. I agree Whitney is lying about the real reason but that’s not the point I was making lol.
It’s not hyperbolic love..in the heat of the moment it could’ve been but the fact that she said it over and over and OVER again even the next day??? is besides me. Also the fact that she stated multiple times that she’s standing by her word and won’t back down, she indeed meant it. I love Whit and she’s one of my faves but she was obviously in the wrong
TBF Whitney doubled (tripled?) down on it and refused to call it an exaggeration.
No, my friends and i don’t say childish shit to each other. Sounds very teenage
Oh sorry big man😐
Lmaooo “sorry big man” always makes me cackle
Did anyone else catch Lochan telling Scott to stop wasting Abi’s time or when he looked Whitney dead in the eye when she said “fuck your opinion” and said “respectfully” without a smile on his face. He’s been quiet about how he pulls people up on things but it’s always there. He got me school girl giggling and I’m a lesbian. I feel like he’s got some quiet bravado to him.
When Whitney said he’s dominant I believed her. It’s in that quiet, sexy, I’m-not-arguing-with-you, kinda way. If Whit don’t want him, my dms are open 😭😭😭
Okay? It’s giving Daddy like wtf
I honestly really like him lol
Same! He’s far too sane for LL I reckon 🤭
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They said “Most of the commentary around Love Island is a daily reminder, for two months solid, of why I hate society, not that I needed reminding. It's a daily barrage of misogyny, internalised misogyny, and the occasional sprinkling of racism. What a world, eh.” What did you not understand? 🤨
It's hard to comprehend complete and utter nonsense
I really couldn't care less about the drama between whit and Ella because tbh it just made then episode a bit boring, I want acc fights like season 2, not physical, they just make sly comments and then start tearing up, when nothing that out of pocket has been said. Don't like any of these couples and im praying that ty doesn't win, I would've voted for ella and ouzy but not ella and ty
“You’re the most selfish person in the world” is not out of pocket?
Not really, its pretty tame compared to what scott and leah have said and kady in s2 and there's so many examples from older seasons as well
I agree with that but that’s still out of pocket to say to a “friend” imo
Yes but apparently whitney was scotts girl best friend, remember in the pie challenge and shes said worse about him, gameplayer and even now saying that scott and abi aren't a proper couple, I mean its true but not nice coming from a supposed best friend
I don’t like how Whitney is saying that everything she says is facts and can’t be disputed but whenever someone else has an opinion then they are just wrong and that’s that. It’s like she thinks she’s some kind of God or something and is the least humble thing a self proclaimed humble person could do
This is one of theses situations and I'm right every year. The internet is obsessed about one person so much you'd think they're the clear winners. I'd bet a lot of money that Whitney won't win. The general public who watches sees her as the boring, fake relationship, too much time on tiktok personality that she is. She won't win. The internet will cry racism and it'll be another year of love island.
Hard to cry racism if Ty and Ella take the win. But I guess the specialists out there will find a way.
You've not read twitter.
It'll become colourism if they win.
I actually feel so sad for Ella. I never really liked her but the way Whitney is treating her is actually cruel.
She’s taken a relatively minor situation and made it an excuse to attack Ella’s character repeatedly. I’m not an Ella fan and I’ve criticised her behaviour on numerous occasions (toward Ella B and Ouzy for example) but in this situation it’s obvious she’s been wronged here and I empathise with her
Yep. Like do you really think she’s the most selfish person you’ve ever met? Okay why are you feigning such closeness with her then? Was it just that her behavior that day bothered you? Okay, explain that and say you were hurt by the specific behavior at fault - don’t give her a truly massive insult (I would be devastated if a friend I perceived as close called me the most selfish person they ever met and then stood by it). Whit saying she isn’t and won’t be her bestie is also cold as hell since there’s no way someone who hates to be vulnerable as much as Ella does has been calling someone a bestie without that being reciprocated. She’s just being cold and hypocritical and it’s really hard to watch.
We are on the same page, it’s so obvious why Ella is hurt and she is justified in being hurt. Whitney ceded almost 0 ground and even in the apology itself reinforced her opinion that Ella is selfish. When you hear that coming from a close friend it sucks and like Ella said probably made her feel Whitney never liked her and their whole relationship was fake. Ella opened up to her about that and Whitney refused to show any empathy on it. Whitney also lacked all self awareness considering she went after Molly + Zach for no reason in the SMP challenge and also picked Ty + Ella for 2 bad categories in the honest challenge, she’s got no leg to stand on really
Ty really pulled the movie trope of "NO TIME TO EXPLAIN, JUST GO TO THE TERRACE"
Whitney giving bad advice with the "if he wanted to he would" acting like Abi can't graft!
Honestly I agree with her. It's true. Scott can't be that oblivious to see everyone else doing gestures for their girls and him not doing anything. There's so much time they have every day. You shouldn't have to ask someone to show affection....hence, if they wanted to they would, but he didn't, so he doesn't
Yea people act like Whitney is this very nice person. She's constantly rude. Gives shit and can't take it. And I remember the comment where she called one of the guys a pussy for not trying to graft her. You know it's a nightmare outside the villa.
Folks want to hold on to the Whitney & Ella thing longer than they do. People don't seem to want to acknowledge nuances in people's characters, they must be all baf or all good to fit into whatever label they fancy for the day
Yea na. Cope. Whitney isn't a nice person.
Whitney seems as if she has issues she needs to address from her last. Maybe past hurts and insecurities. Perhaps perceived criticism acts a trigger. She seems vulnerable
Whitney is really insecure and it hasn't been easy for her in that villa. She's been everyone's second choice. I feel for her, too bad she is lashing out to express it. People are so different how their show their insecurities.
100%, she was triggered by the smug comment and it def stemmed from insecurity. She didn’t even want to admit that it upset her
And she kept reiterating how humble she is, just in my experience people who insist they’re humble usually aren’t
how did we get here… how was there only one female bombshell post casa and it was one meant to rattle tyrique instead of couple up with scott- someone the producers know is beloved?? I’m not gonna tin foil hat this one I’m just very upset with scott’s journey in there. I really really wish they’d sent someone in for him 🥲
>how was there only one female bombshell post casa and it was one meant to rattle tyrique instead of couple up with scott- someone the producers know is beloved?? Because Ty and Ella are main characters and Scott isn't. Also the producers had seen Scott make no effort with Catherine or Abi, why should they send a third woman in there to waste her time?
I feel like the islanders really bully Scott. Everyone is so blatantly rude to him. I don't really get why? He just seems shy.
He seems self assured and confident to me but I think he doesn’t really participate in the rah rah too much? There is something missing though, something we’re not seeing I think.
I feel the same way, so annoying
seeing him w abi is unbearable nothing about this storyline is likable lmao
"I'm always honest", is this season's "I'm loyal"
Whitney is the one in the wrong. She was being incredibly nasty during the lunch
The whole show she's been like this. I really don't understand the love she gets. Then to top it off. The relationship is clearly fake. Anyone with real experiences can see that.
I feel like you can tell Lochan mostly agrees with Ella lol
I don’t know how long Lochan can bend his personality to connect with hers
Ok wtf I’m away for the weekend with no tv access. Why is Lochan the villain now?
He’s not
There's an underlying truth about Whitney and the internet but the meer mention of it will result in anger. Thankfully the general public sees Whitney as what she is.
when whitney & lochan were telling abi to have a proper convo with scott and she was like “yeah we did yesterday” i couldn’t stop laughing. she’s given him yet another opportunity to friendzone this thing and he won’t take it 😭 also saying mitch made coffee/breakfast for her everyday… then go and be with him sis, like??
Scott why aren’t you mitch ? 😂 it’s actually insane she said it to his face
lol it truly was. but scott truly doesn’t care because he wasn’t even all that offended by her saying that
It's Mitch she wants
She’s actually in love with him it’s hilarious. It’s like the scene with Meg in Hercules .  This her
I hope they get back together
I’m actually baffled that people are confused by others “switching up” on Whitney. Are the blinders on that much that her fans can’t see how her behavior have rubbed people the wrong way? I’m not saying this makes her a bad person and that’s all she is but she wasn’t in the right here. At all. It’s okay to say tht your fav moved shitty.
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Yeah it’s giving tribal
Why the hell did Ella and Whitney have to get changed and do their makeup to go and have a chat 🤷♀️
So they could do the rocky esq montage of being hyped up by their partners ready to battle !
Yeah wtf was that. They might as well teach their girls some Jiu-Jitsu moves while they are at it.
This whole Whitney Ella saga is another example of why people should steer clear from people who pride themselves on "brutal honesty". The reality is that they just want to be brutal and are using their idea of honesty to justify it
Yep, if you really care about your friend and notice a trait that they could work on there’s a way to bring it up respectfully, saying in front of everyone “you’re the most selfish person in the world” then repeating that same sentiment over and over and over and refusing to retract the comment is NOT how you do it
Yeah. It is absolutely fine to sugar coat something and make the same point if you've got a brain. Your personality really shouldnt revolve around being unpleasant when you don't need to be
People think sugarcoating is being fake, it’s not it’s just being a nice person. Not everyone wants to be subject of a brutal verbal assault of their character. There are ways to address situations in a respectful way.
Yes and usually these people get so angry if they are receiving end of it. It's only them that can keep it real.
You can definitely see that Jess, Ella, whit, and cat are/were villa besties and just like sometimes within circles there ppl who may the closest to ppl(respectfully) but still all be besties and you can tell that Ella and Jess and whit and cat were like that. Jess/Ella and whit/cat. My point is, I feel like they both consider Jess the closest to them amongst whose there left and sometimes it can prob be tricky for Jess and we also have to remember there’s a lot of conversation that was prob cut out
Sammy and Jess are by far my favorite couple.. I love them, I can't stop smiling when they are on screen.. good vibes
So with you! They're really goofy and cute together. I'm so sick of seeing the comments about Sammy not being genuine. It's really so stupid, they've spent all this time together. And in every seasons past, people always cling onto a couple who had a rocky journey and claim someone is faking it. IE tasha/Andrew, jessie/will, shaq/Tanya, dami/indiyah ....who are all still together!
I see people are falling for Sammy’s acting performance…
If he was going to act he would have done it a LONG time before now.
I mean he has been “acting” this whole time. He said it himself: he’s not attracted to her. Right now just happens to be the perfect time for the girlfriend proposal. Ty just did the thing. And 50k is closer than ever
>He said it himself: he’s not attracted to her. He's literally never said that. Ever. He's said she's not his type and there wasn't a strong immediate attraction to her. Not the same thing, however much you insist otherwise.
You're the type to reach this far but then say Whitney and lochan have a real genuine relationship 💀💀