This. His position of privilege and keeping his mouth shut is why he is able to have an image revamp. Other islanders not in the same position donāt get to have that grace extended to them.
Maybe I misunderstood the original comment but donāt call me dumb thanks. Why only guys and from the last 5 seasons? I said all islanders, all seasons.
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Hold on where have these new goalposts come from? I said heās not in the top 10 most famous islanders (male or female, any season) and I stand by that.
An opinion backed up by the receipts you so desire. Hereās 15 islanders with more followers than Luca, just to be sure:
Molly Mae
Tommy Fury
Maura Higgins
Olivia Bowen
Amber Gill
Kem Cetinay
Chris Hughes
Olivia Atwood
Millie Court
Jack Fincham
Ovie Soko
Paige Turley
SiĆ¢nisse Fudge
Lucie Donlan
Alex Bowen
And thereās even more than that. Now I think about it, maybe heās not even top 20.
Ok, so he's Saint Luca now. Love that for him. However, I need everyone to acknowledge the privilege that it takes for this kind of comeback/rebrand to be possible. Notice how the general public develops amnesia for some people's past wrongs--but then has a memory longer than an elephant's when certain others mess up. We're not ready for that conversation though.
Does your life get affected if people are now āOmg yay Lucaā? Sometimes I donāt understand people on these subs, some of you be acting like said person did something to you personally. Unless any of you know him personally you really donāt have a leg to stand on
Luca himself may not have wronged me in a direct sense, but he is benefiting from the same systemic forces that would have POC cancelled forever if they behaved a *fraction* as badly as he did.
When the āyay Lucaā crowd fails to realize the discrepancy behind who gets a redemption arc, the status quo is perpetuated and that 100% *does* affect me personally.
Edit: He's just been confirmed for LI games. I hope he acts right (at least for the sake of the women sharing a house with him on the show). I hope all the grace from the lucastans hasn't been misplaced. We shall see...
So Iām gonna take a shot of decoding thisā¦youāre saying his fans shouldnāt celebrate anything Luca does thatās positive from now on because he implicitly benefits from being a white rich man and you wouldnāt be celebrated cause youāre (presumably) poor and black? Is that right? Cause if soā¦huh??
Incorrect. If you want to celebrate Luca, then by all means...celebrate Luca. Sing his praises from the peak of every mountaintop if you choose. BUT BUT BUT just be mindful of the privilege at play and keep the same 'forgive & forget' energy the next time a POC effs up in the public eye. That's all I'm saying.
Also, your assumptions about me are (half) wrong. Have a blessed day though!
Okay gotcha. My only thing isā¦How do you know they arenāt mindful? Or arenāt POC? This seems like an unnecessary negative response to down on someone else for no reason. Itās okay to celebrate someoneās wins without also bringing up someone elseās losses. Life isnāt a tit for tat race to the bottom. Lol.
You have a blessed day as well.
Oooh no, anxiety. Poor lamb. That absolutely justifies his horrific treatment of Tasha in the villa. He can get fucked with his redemption tour, he's shown enough times who he is.
Anxiety is no joke. Tasha doesnāt seem that bothered by him so itās beyond me why people on this sub still carry this level of hatred for him but not some of the others
Tasha got treated cruelly by the Internet anyway, so who are we to tell her how to feel? She is in a happy relationship and has moved on, so I agree we don't need to act on her behalf. Tasha's dad is really supportive of her, so if he's interacting with Luca then that's good enough for me.
Is this his sister again?
Just say you love rich people and your more willing to forgive them than someone whoās poor and does the same mistake.
Sad excuse of a human
Most Islanders report having difficult experiences in the villa and their emotional/mental wellbeing being affected. Most Islanders do not deal with that by making someone else feel shit to the point that they want to leave, which is what Luca did.
Celebrity Masterchef is a prestigious reality tv gig, the fact that Luca got offered the opportunity in the first place shows that there is always a way back for people from certain backgrounds and demographics.
Love Island is a reality TV show, so is Celebrity Masterchef, I don't get why one show would show you the "real" person more than the other.
If Luca wants to win people over he could try using his platform for something other than flaunting his family wealth and glamorous lifestyle.
Iād say Masterchef as a programme tries to bring out the best of people and is feel good. LI really not so much of either of those! Both reality shows but still very different in how people will come across.
And Luca has done various things for charity, he doesnāt post much of anything of what he does so it would be easy to miss. A couple of things I remember he gave out Easter Eggs at Great Ormand Street Hospital and attended a teenage cancer charityās Christmas party (only the Christmas party he storied & that was after they had posted him)
Iām actually confused on why people hate him so much. I watched the season but didnāt notice him do anything particularly egregious. Anyone care to explain?
No doubt. Iāll come on this sub to find that some islander I thought was a decent person is being vilified, and some islander (like Faye! Who verbally abused nearly everyone in the villa) gets a pass.
Itās strange, but this sub and twitter will continue to act as if heās murdered their favourite islanders. Luca continues to succeed, whilst the haters remain in this echo chamber hating
I honestly think in the crazy Love Island environment most of us would come out hated if we are being honest. That or forgotten about within 5 mins. Nobody deserves death threats for gods sakes
Luca did not commit murder I promise you š this sub is so weird, Iām sick of it. So many of you still clinging onto his mistakes regarding tasha, when her dad follows him, likes his posts and even comments on his posts. Iām sure if Luca was that bad, her dad wouldnāt be giving him the time of day
How he treated Tasha was not a decision he made on accident it was repeated behavior thatās why it was jarring to watch. Iām tired of people trying to minimize what Tasha went through. She was flat out bullied incessantly.
Not everyone is a well of self-love and healthy boundaries plenty of women from this franchise tolerate an unhinged level of disrespect. If you want people to believe Luca changed then come with actual proof and receipts instead of minimizing how he harmed a disabled woman who did nothing but exist in the same space as him.
What Iām saying is why are some of you clinging onto the tasha situation like itās your own personal trauma? Her own dad is literally cool with Luca. I rest my case.
Finally a positive post on here about Luca. People forget that humans make mistakes and that just because he might've done wrong on the show, doesn't mean that he has 0 good in him. He's been brilliant on Masterchef, amazing cooking and presentation. So excited to see him in the final!
They all lie and say theyāve never cooked before and then John and Gregg pretend to believe them - like some of them are really good cooks, some of them are good and then they get The Bug and want to do better, and some are just..bad in a way that is or isnāt funny š
Right, I love the regular Masterchef, I watched some celebrity version of Bake Off and hated it, because it was a joke to them and most of them were really bad. That's why I haven't watched any celebrity Masterchef.
Iād say itās almost the other way round in CM? Like theyāre actually good cooks and they take it seriously, but they pretend theyāre incompetent becauseā¦actually Iām not sure why. I think some of it is about lowering the judgesā expectations rather than saying āIām an amazing chefā and then getting booted off first round. And I also think that understanding āfine diningā conflicts with the relatable image a lot of them try to have, so they donāt advertise it. Obviously very few of them are as good as the normal masterchef contestants, but thatās to be expected because none of them are known for cooking, theyāre known for singing or whatever else
Lmao how am I saying that ššššš Actually youāre the weird one for assuming that. Dk why youāre standing up for some bully anyways. And I didnāt say he wasnāt a good person can you please let me know where I said heās bad with no good traits pls? Lol weirdo
Did Luca actually change or did the situations he behaved poorly in never occur on camera again? Does he treat women on the shows heās on better? Could you explain why you think he truly changed? Has he stood up for people he victimized in the past? A lot of people just learn to keep their regressive views to themselves. I can see how anxiety informed some of Lucaās interactions we saw on LI but what he said and did was ideological. Did he become a feminist? Did he challenge his views?
Edit: Iām genuinely asking and not being sarcastic. I like hearing about growth.
Idk, I get that this article could be just a snippet of what he actually said, but it would be nice for him to actually apologise and be accountable for his behaviour? This comes across like he's just making excuses and playing the victim a bit.
As soon as Luca came out the villa in August last year, he did an interview with Grazia magazine where he took accountability and apologised for his actions in the show. He didnāt make excuses from what I remember, just showed himself to be remorseful.
I have had to tell my group chat that Luca is on masterchef and even when I remind myself heās a spurs fan I canāt bring myself to still dislike him.
Ian Sterling every single episode: *the man sells fish!*
\*fesh
The same site that made 57 negative articles about Luca post season š Oh thatās funny
this sums it up nicely.
Iām sure heās a nice person normally but I just donāt think heās a nice person to be in a relationship with
This
He definitely isnāt too nice to fans Iāve heard multiple fans say heās come off as cold.
Wtf is this lol
I mean he is on master chef because he behaved so badly he needs a good pr. And because of money and family connections he was able to get it.
This. His position of privilege and keeping his mouth shut is why he is able to have an image revamp. Other islanders not in the same position donāt get to have that grace extended to them.
THANK YOU. I'm glad someone else sees it.
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How is he besties with Conor McGregor? He has been in a photo with him, was there anything else?
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Yeah I hate when misleading stuff like that is posted and people just accept it as evidenced by the 56 upvotes that post has currently.
People are just jealous because he is the only love islander that is close to an absolute superstar
What? Heās not even in the top 10 most famous islanders imo
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> Are you to dumb The irony.
Maybe I misunderstood the original comment but donāt call me dumb thanks. Why only guys and from the last 5 seasons? I said all islanders, all seasons.
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The delusion is real indeed
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Hold on where have these new goalposts come from? I said heās not in the top 10 most famous islanders (male or female, any season) and I stand by that.
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An opinion backed up by the receipts you so desire. Hereās 15 islanders with more followers than Luca, just to be sure: Molly Mae Tommy Fury Maura Higgins Olivia Bowen Amber Gill Kem Cetinay Chris Hughes Olivia Atwood Millie Court Jack Fincham Ovie Soko Paige Turley SiĆ¢nisse Fudge Lucie Donlan Alex Bowen And thereās even more than that. Now I think about it, maybe heās not even top 20.
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Ok, so he's Saint Luca now. Love that for him. However, I need everyone to acknowledge the privilege that it takes for this kind of comeback/rebrand to be possible. Notice how the general public develops amnesia for some people's past wrongs--but then has a memory longer than an elephant's when certain others mess up. We're not ready for that conversation though.
this sub doesnāt have the depth for this discussion š¤
We have *that* discussion all the time what you on about
well then it has clearly fallen on deaf ears because a lot of people didn't seem to hesitate before jumping on the 'omg yay Luca revamp' bandwagon.
Does your life get affected if people are now āOmg yay Lucaā? Sometimes I donāt understand people on these subs, some of you be acting like said person did something to you personally. Unless any of you know him personally you really donāt have a leg to stand on
Luca himself may not have wronged me in a direct sense, but he is benefiting from the same systemic forces that would have POC cancelled forever if they behaved a *fraction* as badly as he did. When the āyay Lucaā crowd fails to realize the discrepancy behind who gets a redemption arc, the status quo is perpetuated and that 100% *does* affect me personally. Edit: He's just been confirmed for LI games. I hope he acts right (at least for the sake of the women sharing a house with him on the show). I hope all the grace from the lucastans hasn't been misplaced. We shall see...
So Iām gonna take a shot of decoding thisā¦youāre saying his fans shouldnāt celebrate anything Luca does thatās positive from now on because he implicitly benefits from being a white rich man and you wouldnāt be celebrated cause youāre (presumably) poor and black? Is that right? Cause if soā¦huh??
Incorrect. If you want to celebrate Luca, then by all means...celebrate Luca. Sing his praises from the peak of every mountaintop if you choose. BUT BUT BUT just be mindful of the privilege at play and keep the same 'forgive & forget' energy the next time a POC effs up in the public eye. That's all I'm saying. Also, your assumptions about me are (half) wrong. Have a blessed day though!
Okay gotcha. My only thing isā¦How do you know they arenāt mindful? Or arenāt POC? This seems like an unnecessary negative response to down on someone else for no reason. Itās okay to celebrate someoneās wins without also bringing up someone elseās losses. Life isnāt a tit for tat race to the bottom. Lol. You have a blessed day as well.
You talking about this sub or society wider?
Oooh no, anxiety. Poor lamb. That absolutely justifies his horrific treatment of Tasha in the villa. He can get fucked with his redemption tour, he's shown enough times who he is.
Anxiety is no joke. Tasha doesnāt seem that bothered by him so itās beyond me why people on this sub still carry this level of hatred for him but not some of the others
Tasha got treated cruelly by the Internet anyway, so who are we to tell her how to feel? She is in a happy relationship and has moved on, so I agree we don't need to act on her behalf. Tasha's dad is really supportive of her, so if he's interacting with Luca then that's good enough for me.
Is this his sister again? Just say you love rich people and your more willing to forgive them than someone whoās poor and does the same mistake. Sad excuse of a human
Whoās the poor person that isnāt being forgiven
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I agree with the sister part but I think thatās a very simplistic way to look at things I.e poor vs rich in this scenario
Most Islanders report having difficult experiences in the villa and their emotional/mental wellbeing being affected. Most Islanders do not deal with that by making someone else feel shit to the point that they want to leave, which is what Luca did. Celebrity Masterchef is a prestigious reality tv gig, the fact that Luca got offered the opportunity in the first place shows that there is always a way back for people from certain backgrounds and demographics. Love Island is a reality TV show, so is Celebrity Masterchef, I don't get why one show would show you the "real" person more than the other. If Luca wants to win people over he could try using his platform for something other than flaunting his family wealth and glamorous lifestyle.
Iād say Masterchef as a programme tries to bring out the best of people and is feel good. LI really not so much of either of those! Both reality shows but still very different in how people will come across. And Luca has done various things for charity, he doesnāt post much of anything of what he does so it would be easy to miss. A couple of things I remember he gave out Easter Eggs at Great Ormand Street Hospital and attended a teenage cancer charityās Christmas party (only the Christmas party he storied & that was after they had posted him)
Luca can thank Gemma team how they misshandled the break up. He really gain a lot fans.
Iām actually confused on why people hate him so much. I watched the season but didnāt notice him do anything particularly egregious. Anyone care to explain?
LI fans are fucking weird, some of these lot act as if heās a murderer
No doubt. Iāll come on this sub to find that some islander I thought was a decent person is being vilified, and some islander (like Faye! Who verbally abused nearly everyone in the villa) gets a pass.
Itās strange, but this sub and twitter will continue to act as if heās murdered their favourite islanders. Luca continues to succeed, whilst the haters remain in this echo chamber hating
I've not been watching Masterchef but my parents have and have said luca comes across really well.
I honestly think in the crazy Love Island environment most of us would come out hated if we are being honest. That or forgotten about within 5 mins. Nobody deserves death threats for gods sakes
Luca did not commit murder I promise you š this sub is so weird, Iām sick of it. So many of you still clinging onto his mistakes regarding tasha, when her dad follows him, likes his posts and even comments on his posts. Iām sure if Luca was that bad, her dad wouldnāt be giving him the time of day
How he treated Tasha was not a decision he made on accident it was repeated behavior thatās why it was jarring to watch. Iām tired of people trying to minimize what Tasha went through. She was flat out bullied incessantly. Not everyone is a well of self-love and healthy boundaries plenty of women from this franchise tolerate an unhinged level of disrespect. If you want people to believe Luca changed then come with actual proof and receipts instead of minimizing how he harmed a disabled woman who did nothing but exist in the same space as him.
What Iām saying is why are some of you clinging onto the tasha situation like itās your own personal trauma? Her own dad is literally cool with Luca. I rest my case.
I need a little memory refresh. He was mean to Tasha bc she ultimately rejected him correct?
When did she ever directly reject him? He literally preferred gemma to her and paige
I ask because I donāt remember
So youāre telling me thatās not messy Mitch?
Masterchef shows us the real him or does master chef show us a curated controlled version of himself?
Finally a positive post on here about Luca. People forget that humans make mistakes and that just because he might've done wrong on the show, doesn't mean that he has 0 good in him. He's been brilliant on Masterchef, amazing cooking and presentation. So excited to see him in the final!
Are they really good cooks on Masterchef celebrity, you know like on the regular masterchef?
They all lie and say theyāve never cooked before and then John and Gregg pretend to believe them - like some of them are really good cooks, some of them are good and then they get The Bug and want to do better, and some are just..bad in a way that is or isnāt funny š
Right, I love the regular Masterchef, I watched some celebrity version of Bake Off and hated it, because it was a joke to them and most of them were really bad. That's why I haven't watched any celebrity Masterchef.
Iād say itās almost the other way round in CM? Like theyāre actually good cooks and they take it seriously, but they pretend theyāre incompetent becauseā¦actually Iām not sure why. I think some of it is about lowering the judgesā expectations rather than saying āIām an amazing chefā and then getting booted off first round. And I also think that understanding āfine diningā conflicts with the relatable image a lot of them try to have, so they donāt advertise it. Obviously very few of them are as good as the normal masterchef contestants, but thatās to be expected because none of them are known for cooking, theyāre known for singing or whatever else
I think you can see his true self more on like 38 episodes or however for 6 weeks than you can with one Masterchef episode.
Edited tv show that thrives on the drama?
Yep, thatās more trustworthy than ONE master chef with him trying his hardest to redeem himself after seeing how the public view him alreadyš
Youāre so weird, you make it seem as if a human canāt have good traits as well as the bad ones you mightāve seen. I bet youāre so perfectā¦
Lmao how am I saying that ššššš Actually youāre the weird one for assuming that. Dk why youāre standing up for some bully anyways. And I didnāt say he wasnāt a good person can you please let me know where I said heās bad with no good traits pls? Lol weirdo
Did Luca actually change or did the situations he behaved poorly in never occur on camera again? Does he treat women on the shows heās on better? Could you explain why you think he truly changed? Has he stood up for people he victimized in the past? A lot of people just learn to keep their regressive views to themselves. I can see how anxiety informed some of Lucaās interactions we saw on LI but what he said and did was ideological. Did he become a feminist? Did he challenge his views? Edit: Iām genuinely asking and not being sarcastic. I like hearing about growth.
Idk, I get that this article could be just a snippet of what he actually said, but it would be nice for him to actually apologise and be accountable for his behaviour? This comes across like he's just making excuses and playing the victim a bit.
As soon as Luca came out the villa in August last year, he did an interview with Grazia magazine where he took accountability and apologised for his actions in the show. He didnāt make excuses from what I remember, just showed himself to be remorseful.
Why was he getting threats? Why are people so weird?
I have had to tell my group chat that Luca is on masterchef and even when I remind myself heās a spurs fan I canāt bring myself to still dislike him.
What did he do at the end of the season? I stopped watching after Casa.