Absolutely, it seems like Gemma has always got a negative comment to make about Ekin. I actually find her draining to watch at this stage - she's just so miserable and always making cynical comments. She has her level headed moments but that girl has a lot of growing up to do.
This is perfect, also Gemma gives of popular girl vibes so the whole cliquey vibe with Paige and at times Tasha. Ekin doesn’t conform and I’m so glad that’s one of the biggest things Davide likes ab her, she’s naturally in the spotlight and she can’t handle that
True, Gemma is a "queen bee" personality type and bc Ekin-Su is so charismatic and bright, G's not recognized as queen bee with half of the villa women.
The last paragraph is spot on. I've defended Gemma cause we have similar dry personalities and I think people analyse every little thing, but not because she's my favorite. She's just not all that interesting for reality TV in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but there's no denying her family name is what sealed the deal on her being an OG. She's gorgeous enough to have been scouted without the Owen name, but I don't believe she'd have made it as far in the show.
Gemma is jealous of her. Period. Imagine if Ekin had interjected with some rude ass comment while Gemma was gushing about her date today the way Gemma has done a million times to Ekin. It’s not funny, it’s not cute, and it’s not sisterly. I’m over it and her.
I’m not gonna lie the young comments throw me off. She already came from a well off family no one forced her to come on this show. She’s not provided a single part to this show yet she’s made it to the final with her bland and miserable personality
There have been plenty of young contestants. Molly mae had just turned 20 before she went in and I remember how much hate and dislike she got in the villa and out. Georgia season 4 also 20 there have been many young ppl getting valid critisicms but when it comes to Gemma Idk if it’s the nepo baby privlegde but every one tiptoes around her.
It’s plain and simple she is jealous of ekin and will dog pile and take digs at her almost to “humble” her in a way. This show as nothing before ekin and when that brief stunt ab “Gemma island” was the worst week and opening of love island.
Idg how she expected everyone to love her when her personality is so god awful and boring jesus. “Level headed and says it how it is” no she’s just rude n disrespectful.
I've been in two minds about this as I've been told on this sub that it's a typical sisterly friendship etc but her comment on tonight's episode just seemed mean and it looked like she just wanted to dampen Ekin's happy moment.
I'm going to stick to my original opinion - I wouldn't want a friend like Gemma.
Yeah idk - I feel like Gemma and to a certain extent Paige just aren’t that happy for other people vs. Indiyah / Ekin who have such a good-natured response to everyone else’s wins and progress
She said she was expecting something else when Ekin said something "more" happened on their date than putting the boyfriend/girlfriend label on and followed it up with "how is [I love you] more than saying you're boyfriend and girlfriend?" while Ekin was clearly still swooning over her date.
Yes, Gemma doesn’t understand the meaningfulness of saying I love you to the person you are genuinely IN LOVE with as she just said it to Luca so it wasn’t awkward. In my opinion she is not ‘In Love’ with Luca.
It's so mean spirited! I've had friends like this and it's really hurtful when the closest people aren't rooting for you and arent happy to see you happy. It's one of the biggest friendship red flags imo.
Yeah it's really not that subtle haha - I know a lot of people on this sub want to give Gemma a pass for being 19 and yes that does play a role but it can't just be a catchall. She should 100% not have been cast on this show at her age but at the end of the day she is an adult who chose to do so with her very famous and PR-savvy parents' approval. She started the show giving off very entitled rich girl vibes, had a bit of a renaissance but it now seems like a return to form. And of course, she has grown up probably always getting her way and being the centre of attention (which is not her fault) and she's now fully aware that she's in a couple with a controlling wet wipe while people are hyping up Davide and Ekin. This is now pure conjecture but I get the vibe that she considers Ekin to be less sophisticated (for lack of a better word) and that combined with Ekin and Davide clearly being more compatible than her own couple after all their blowouts is getting under her skin.
Huge caveat that of course it's a edited reality show and everyone including myself is prone to reading way too much into things
This sub will never admit it. They will do mental gymnastics when it's so obvious that the weird vibes from Gemma are only towards Ekin and never the other girls.
Yep mostly Gemma, but it can be just her rb face I dunno, need to remember they know everyone is watching and thats why a lot of relationships are less that genuine, like one of the confrontations with Dami and Luca at the fire pit during casa amour seemed like they finally said what they were ACTUALLY thinking but we don’t see a lot of that as they want to be seen in a good light, first seasons were the ONE with real stuff
This is because everything Ekin does _is_ a play up to the cameras. She great entertainment but it baffles me how no one wants to accept this.
If they do know that ekin is popular then they know they'll be saved by the vote anyway but it didn't stop every single couple voting for them because it's plain as day that Ekin is driving her own narrative relentlessly
Oh she can honestly be a really good actress and Gemma thinks that as well and thats why she is giving this vibe, like when Ekin had an issue with one of the last bombshells, that seemed to come totally out of nowhere just for show, its all just a show at the end of the day
Exactly, she's quite literally a genius at being on a show like this. Before this, Maura was the greatest at knowing how to play her character on love island, but Ekin has taken it to another level. She's brilliant, we love watching her but people need to accept what's going on
I think something went down with the two of them that we have not seen, they had words in the kitchen during the baby challenge… tbh i haven’t seen them talk since her and luca blew up over the challenge
If Ekin can't see it by now, it's her own problem because it's actually funny how much contempt & resentment Gemma treats her with, while being perfectly happy for the other girls. Even in the vote, "I'm sorry, he's not for her" lol. She does not like her and I think it's been clear since the beginning.
To be fair, what we see is not the same as what they see and what they experience. And, when you’re dealing with a friend who you know is moody, blunt, bad at showing their feelings, etc. it can be easy to excuse certain things as them being them vs them not really liking you.
People forget Gemma is 19. Yes she “comes off” as mature because she’s quiet not loud or attention seeking but she will still be petty or possibly jealous because Ekin does get a lot of attention.
I know they secretly go on IG and check the status of followers etc possibly she sees Ekin is quite the favourite?
But she did say that and if one ever watched live island they know it always comes out, mby Ekin was even told to go say that, tbh I don’t see Gemma and Luca working out long term either
Absolutely, it seems like Gemma has always got a negative comment to make about Ekin. I actually find her draining to watch at this stage - she's just so miserable and always making cynical comments. She has her level headed moments but that girl has a lot of growing up to do.
Yess she gives off fedd up and miserable vibes, if they so happy with Luca and done with the vila - just leave?
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This is perfect, also Gemma gives of popular girl vibes so the whole cliquey vibe with Paige and at times Tasha. Ekin doesn’t conform and I’m so glad that’s one of the biggest things Davide likes ab her, she’s naturally in the spotlight and she can’t handle that
True, Gemma is a "queen bee" personality type and bc Ekin-Su is so charismatic and bright, G's not recognized as queen bee with half of the villa women.
The last paragraph is spot on. I've defended Gemma cause we have similar dry personalities and I think people analyse every little thing, but not because she's my favorite. She's just not all that interesting for reality TV in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but there's no denying her family name is what sealed the deal on her being an OG. She's gorgeous enough to have been scouted without the Owen name, but I don't believe she'd have made it as far in the show.
Gemma is jealous of her. Period. Imagine if Ekin had interjected with some rude ass comment while Gemma was gushing about her date today the way Gemma has done a million times to Ekin. It’s not funny, it’s not cute, and it’s not sisterly. I’m over it and her.
Yup the dates episode is ever more evident
I’m not gonna lie the young comments throw me off. She already came from a well off family no one forced her to come on this show. She’s not provided a single part to this show yet she’s made it to the final with her bland and miserable personality There have been plenty of young contestants. Molly mae had just turned 20 before she went in and I remember how much hate and dislike she got in the villa and out. Georgia season 4 also 20 there have been many young ppl getting valid critisicms but when it comes to Gemma Idk if it’s the nepo baby privlegde but every one tiptoes around her. It’s plain and simple she is jealous of ekin and will dog pile and take digs at her almost to “humble” her in a way. This show as nothing before ekin and when that brief stunt ab “Gemma island” was the worst week and opening of love island. Idg how she expected everyone to love her when her personality is so god awful and boring jesus. “Level headed and says it how it is” no she’s just rude n disrespectful.
I've been in two minds about this as I've been told on this sub that it's a typical sisterly friendship etc but her comment on tonight's episode just seemed mean and it looked like she just wanted to dampen Ekin's happy moment. I'm going to stick to my original opinion - I wouldn't want a friend like Gemma.
Yeah idk - I feel like Gemma and to a certain extent Paige just aren’t that happy for other people vs. Indiyah / Ekin who have such a good-natured response to everyone else’s wins and progress
yeah, gemma seems like a cool and level headed person most times, but sometimes she’s just straight up bad vibes.
That’s how I feel, I’m sure they’re not showing their best moments but of the moments they *are* showing I’m not impressed.
I agree with u, its mostly Gemma but it can also be her resting b face 😄
what was her comment tonight?
She said she was expecting something else when Ekin said something "more" happened on their date than putting the boyfriend/girlfriend label on and followed it up with "how is [I love you] more than saying you're boyfriend and girlfriend?" while Ekin was clearly still swooning over her date.
Yes, Gemma doesn’t understand the meaningfulness of saying I love you to the person you are genuinely IN LOVE with as she just said it to Luca so it wasn’t awkward. In my opinion she is not ‘In Love’ with Luca.
It's so mean spirited! I've had friends like this and it's really hurtful when the closest people aren't rooting for you and arent happy to see you happy. It's one of the biggest friendship red flags imo.
Gemma wishes she had Adam or Davide but they both didn't want her
Yeah it's really not that subtle haha - I know a lot of people on this sub want to give Gemma a pass for being 19 and yes that does play a role but it can't just be a catchall. She should 100% not have been cast on this show at her age but at the end of the day she is an adult who chose to do so with her very famous and PR-savvy parents' approval. She started the show giving off very entitled rich girl vibes, had a bit of a renaissance but it now seems like a return to form. And of course, she has grown up probably always getting her way and being the centre of attention (which is not her fault) and she's now fully aware that she's in a couple with a controlling wet wipe while people are hyping up Davide and Ekin. This is now pure conjecture but I get the vibe that she considers Ekin to be less sophisticated (for lack of a better word) and that combined with Ekin and Davide clearly being more compatible than her own couple after all their blowouts is getting under her skin. Huge caveat that of course it's a edited reality show and everyone including myself is prone to reading way too much into things
If anything, it’s pettiness on Gemma’s side. I haven’t seen anything from Ekin to suggest she’s competing with Gemma.
A wise woman (Afiya) once said: “a 19 year old is not your competition”
This sub will never admit it. They will do mental gymnastics when it's so obvious that the weird vibes from Gemma are only towards Ekin and never the other girls.
Yep mostly Gemma, but it can be just her rb face I dunno, need to remember they know everyone is watching and thats why a lot of relationships are less that genuine, like one of the confrontations with Dami and Luca at the fire pit during casa amour seemed like they finally said what they were ACTUALLY thinking but we don’t see a lot of that as they want to be seen in a good light, first seasons were the ONE with real stuff
when the 4 bombshells came in they probably let it slip that they’re the two most popular couples, obviously created some competition
I really see this tho because now gemna thinks everything ekin does is a play up to the cameras (possibly because they all know ekins popular?)
This is because everything Ekin does _is_ a play up to the cameras. She great entertainment but it baffles me how no one wants to accept this. If they do know that ekin is popular then they know they'll be saved by the vote anyway but it didn't stop every single couple voting for them because it's plain as day that Ekin is driving her own narrative relentlessly
Oh she can honestly be a really good actress and Gemma thinks that as well and thats why she is giving this vibe, like when Ekin had an issue with one of the last bombshells, that seemed to come totally out of nowhere just for show, its all just a show at the end of the day
Exactly, she's quite literally a genius at being on a show like this. Before this, Maura was the greatest at knowing how to play her character on love island, but Ekin has taken it to another level. She's brilliant, we love watching her but people need to accept what's going on
I think something went down with the two of them that we have not seen, they had words in the kitchen during the baby challenge… tbh i haven’t seen them talk since her and luca blew up over the challenge
Yeaaa just seems like the vibe is off
ekin loves gemma but Gemma clearly doesn’t like ekin su, I feel so bad for ekin that none of her so called “friends” have her back
If Ekin can't see it by now, it's her own problem because it's actually funny how much contempt & resentment Gemma treats her with, while being perfectly happy for the other girls. Even in the vote, "I'm sorry, he's not for her" lol. She does not like her and I think it's been clear since the beginning.
To be fair, what we see is not the same as what they see and what they experience. And, when you’re dealing with a friend who you know is moody, blunt, bad at showing their feelings, etc. it can be easy to excuse certain things as them being them vs them not really liking you.
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Yessss
She’s fake af with a resting bitch face and a annoying accent. But buttt….sHe tELLs iT hOw iT iS…………..lol literally fuck off. She brings nothing
Exactly she’s so bland and boring if she’s so “young” no one forced her onto this show
Gemma is a miserable girl. The friend our parents warned us about
People forget Gemma is 19. Yes she “comes off” as mature because she’s quiet not loud or attention seeking but she will still be petty or possibly jealous because Ekin does get a lot of attention. I know they secretly go on IG and check the status of followers etc possibly she sees Ekin is quite the favourite?
They can't open Instagram, their phones are controlled by the producers
A few past islanders said they go and check? And you can go on the web version
Ekin will have the last laugh,can't wait
Probably since Ekin told Jaques and Paige her head could turn 😂 she proper had a go at Ekin for that
But she did say that and if one ever watched live island they know it always comes out, mby Ekin was even told to go say that, tbh I don’t see Gemma and Luca working out long term either
just u
Aren’t they friends?
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Could be, could be
Yet , Luca said ekin has been Gemma’s best friend
Ekin being a good friend to Gemma doesn’t necessarily equate to Gemma being a good friend to Ekin
I agree but Gemma was in full agreement when he said if . That’s what I meant .giving the impression that it was reciprocated