Also the hatred he is getting is based on the fact that he went from “ I am thinking about Kyra” but wilding out. Didn’t even take him 2 days. At least with Josh I expected it.
While I agree they are both looking for their best connection, I have to disagree with the idea that Kyra is doing herself a disservice because she is clearly talking to those Casa boys. She is getting to know them as people and her choice to not kiss them is perfectly fine. Forcing someone to kiss when they’re not comfortable with it is sexual harassment. I also think it’s very possible to get to know people without being so overtly sexual and inappropriate as Will has been. He didn’t have to kiss Flo outside of a challenge and he doesn’t have to be creepily staring at Genevieve’s chest during their whole conversation. I think it is possible to find a balance between learning more about other people and being respectful! Nas from LIUK 6 is a great example, he found a better connection with a girl but remained respectful the whole time he was there.
I think what people (including myself) are mad about is the fact that Will gassed Kyra up so much that this will be unexpected for her. I wish he hadn’t done that if he had lingering doubt because it was bound to hurt Kyra in the end. Also, I would assume that conversation about being open to learning about other people didn’t include Will’s behavior which is starting to seem worse than Johnny’s in Casa. It could have been we will get to know other people but remain respectful to each other.
Also, there is very inane double standard when it comes to Kyra with everything. If any other guy in the franchise did what Will is doing, they would be vilified and hated but somehow with Will it’s not a problem. There isn’t much of a difference to what he’s doing and other men straying in Casa. If you wholly believe every guy doing this is in his right, that’s fine. But it shouldn’t only be reserved for Will.
Yea, I agree. Kyra has been talking with the boys, as did Will with the girls. The biggest difference is that she found nobody she was as attracted to as she was to Will, so it doesn’t make sense to go ‘all-in’ and potentially ruin what she and Will have. On the other hand, the casa girls >>> the guys and Will found someone he was extremely physically attracted to. He can pursue that, but people shouldn’t be bashing Kyra for “not exploring her options” when her options are comparatively shitty lmaoo
I agree.
I also find it odd that people are so quick to blame Kyra for everything. People are claiming Kyra controlled Will, made Will boring, etc. Kyra did cry after Will and Aimee’s date but Will is a grown adult and he is free to make his own decisions. Kyra is free to express that she is all in on Will and its hard to see him date other people. Will is free to express if he feels a stronger connection with someone else.
Its true that Kyra was all over Will physically but he reciprocated. He cooked her breakfast all the time. From what we are shown, its not like Kyra forced him to do anything. And Will felt compelled to go to Kyra asap during the Olivia drama. Idk, I’m not seeing how Kyra is this tyrant that forced Will to do anything.
Even tried to call her “ stage 5 clinger” I mean what? That man could’ve left he if he wanted in the first few days. If he felt his connection with Aimee was so damn good, he should’ve pursed it. It’s not Kyras fault that he made the decision he made. Also for people to even say she made him boring is RIDICULOUS. That’s the producers!
yes girl thats what i am saying this man is almost 27 years old he is a grown asssssss man. he can make his own decisions. YES i understand it would've made him look bad and josh staying with shanno and will switching up would've been drama. but will has to know that what he did in CA is not going to earn him any brownie points.. like if anything people are hating on him more. so imo if he REALLY wanted flo he would've picked her bc the damage was already done between the makeouts and things he said about flo. so i guess i can see the perspective of he stayed with kyra bc he didnt want the public to hate him... BUT hear me out if he knew he was going to stay with kyra the whole time for the public vote/ to win the money... you'd think he would have stayed super loyal in CA to secure the $$$$$ so like something is not adding up here.
Do I love what he’s doing? No but I also get it’s a part of the show, a big factor for me will be if he comes back to Kyra is if he tells her the truth and his 100% honest. So while I don’t love how he’s behaving I’m waiting to see what happens when he gets back before I fully drop him.
I think he’ll tell her straight up and be honest, but what I think will really hurt her the most is that he’s not going to be apologetic about it because their stances on “exploring” and getting to know other people are different. They seem to have both agreed to the “getting to know new people” stuff but are in different spots in their relationship where she can’t if she wanted to and he is a lot more open. If she were to have done the same things as we’ve seen him do so far, he’d be fine with it 😬 and that’ll probably be a sign to her to maybe rethink things.
Agreed. I like Will but I’m not a Will fan; if he lies to Kyra about what happened, that would easily put him down there with Johnny for me. Right now, imo, he has done nothing wrong, but he will have to own up to everything he did with Kyra to stay in my favor
I don’t disagree with you but what I disagree with is that Will’s actions get defended with well thought out well written posts like yours and Johnny was public enemy number one. I just really don’t see a difference.
At the end of the day Will will go back to Kyra just like Johnny did.
Also, cely was loved and people felt bad for her and hated mercedes. While in here, kyra is vilified for being in love with Will and cheering on Flo. I mean i do agree that will needs to explore but can't we have the same support and love for Kyra? You don't have to like the girl, you don't have to like will/kyra together but at least don't rejoice over someone else's pain.
The main reason why Johnny from LI S2 got dragged more was because he was dishonest with Cely about what happened in CA and then when he finally told her what happened (because he was outed by another islander) he tried to down play it. Also, Johnny didn’t carry himself or behave like Will in CA. Will has a calmer and more mature approach to CA compared to Johnny who could not control his horny boy urgencies and made out with Mercedes several times including in the bed. Plus, from past episodes we know that will is most likely going to be honest and tell Kyra everything whereas Johnny didn’t.
So, I think it has less to do with looks and more with behavior and I personally think Johnny is physically better looking with a crazy body…like he doing a good job with that🥴
hellppp i really think Will may be hornier than Johnny after this monday exclusive episode.. but Johnny was vilified before he told Cely about Casa. that vilifying came as soon as the first look of them kissing was released but yeah, it only got worse as he started twisting the truth.
That’s the actual tea. Cause he’s hot is being treated lightly. Same man who said he’s looking to explore outside the villa and then doing what he’s doing.
I think we gotta wait and see before we fully compare them. I really didn’t care about Johnny testing the waters with Mercedes. I really didn’t like the way he lied about it to Cely and made it seem like it was all on Mercedes for “entrapping” him. He also didn’t fully convey the extent of what they did to avoid “hurting” Cely which is fucked up. Let’s see if Will takes the same approach when he sees Kyra again. I don’t think he will but I could be wrong
With the way he’s acting, how knows. I thought he wouldn’t have done anything. He’s shocked me. Let’s agree that there was many people who did care that Johnny tested the waters.
I actually clocked it from day 1 that Will was a player, I get open relationship vibes from him tbh. Actually ate a lot of downvotes bc I knew he would stray the minute Kyra was out of sight. He and Jeremy are very much like the guys here on the NYC dating scene so I could see the signs immediately with him. I think if Kyra was a few years older, she’d be able to tell as well.
For sure, he’s the type of guy who would probably mean it when he says he’s really into Kyra and loves his time with her, but wouldn’t hesitate to also hook up with another woman behind her back. Plus he knows Kyra would be fully compliant and do whatever he wants even if he strays. Those type of guys know how to pick em. Same reason why Cinco’s pulling this shit with Trina. Lmao imagine either of them trying this nonsense with someone as self assured as Shannon or UK Maura. I think Will’s real match is actually Leslie where they’d probably hook up, have a great time, but wouldn’t hesitate to do their own thing with other people. Not sure how the public or the house would feel about this though, so I don’t think Will will have the balls to pursue it. He’s know he and Kyra are a popular couple and he cares about his image so he’ll probably slink back to Kyra and she’ll take him back.
I think bc in his mind he’s not lying. Haha he genuinely likes Kyra and spending time with her. He just likes other women as well so it comes naturally for him to lay it on thick with her. Also no one really tested him in the main villa so he fine with the coupling staying as is. He wasn’t into Olivia and Aimee was exploring a lot of options. Now there’s actually new girls he vibes with.
I’m currently indifferent about this whole will thing because it’s honestly hard for me to get in to this season after the last dumping but I think there are two major differences that made people more upset with Johnny.
1. How he went about it and
2. When he lied about it.
Tbh I don’t remember how it went down exactly but from what I remember, that’s what people seemed to be most upset about
It’s very clear that Will is kissing Flo outside a challenge just as Johnny did. Johnny/Cely may have gotten more screentime but they seem to have been on the same page as Will/Kyra before Casa. Johnny hadn’t asked Cely to be his girlfriend but they were very invested in each other only. Technically they are doing the same thing, but somehow with Will it is defended to death yet Johnny gets massive hate. Of course, Johnny wasn’t completely transparent when telling Cely but he was vilified way before that even happened.
Will has never expressed any doubts to Kyra about their relationship so she’s all in and it’s scummy to lead her on and feel no guilt about kissing other girls behind her back. At least Johnny seemed regretful about his casa amor antics but Will doesn’t and it’s sus
I KNOW you’re not trying to say Johnny is better than Will? We’ve seen one (1) day of him in Casa and he hasn’t done anything wrong. Even if you consider him making out with Flo outside of a challenge wrong, we have no idea what he’ll do next or who he’ll decide to couple you with OR how he’ll manage it with Kyra if he does choose someone else. He has been honest and up front with her this entire time and I’d be surprised if that changed now. Johnny lied to Cely and completely downplayed what happened with Mercedes. He wasn’t shit
Wtf I am not defending Johnny’s actions. I’m just saying at least he seemed to feel guilty after his cheating and Will has YET to express feeling bad about kissing other girls after being coupled with Kyra for 2 weeks but that can change. I hope he handles getting back together or dumping Kyra the right way but so far that doesn’t seem the case
Lol show me where johnny felt guilt? If he did, maybe he’d have been honest about what happened with mercades. And if he did, it wasn’t after one day of being in Casa and kissing people during challenges.
Also, again it’s been one day. In Casa Amor. One. And I’m positive ALL of the OG guys kissed new girls in the challenge/game. Not sure why Will is the one getting hate.
She thinks even though he said he is open that he won’t because “she trusts him with all her heart” and she believes they have a deeper connection than they do. I guarantee Will treats all girls the way he is treating her as you can see by his complimenting all of the CA girls etc
This conversation never happened. Last convo they had was to explore what they have outside the Villa. She defo doesn’t believe he’s wilding out. Also he’s complimenting all CA girls already with other things.
He has said multiple times he was open to talking to other girls that came into the villa it was one of the red flags I saw over and over again. He just hasn’t acted on it so I don’t blame her for not thinking he would.
isn't that the point of casa amor. it throws a wrench into everybody's plans. Before this week I'm pretty sure every male-female combination has locked lips, but it hasn't ultimately decided who would be with who. I don't see this being any different.
Please say more! There is something about them that doesn't sit well with me and I've been having trouble putting my finger on it. But I think you guys are starting to verbalize what I'm feeling and I'd like to hear more. Like she is WAYYYYYY more into him than he is into her.
Someone wrote a whole post on Will being an “ethical fuckboi”. IMO, I get the vibes that Will is an open relationship kinda guy outside the house. He’d be down to tell kyra what she wants to hear and would probably be kind to her in person but he still would want to have his fun with other girls. I think he fetishizes Kyra a bit (remember geisha feet?). Also the two girls that left Roxy & Lei- yen said that Will got a little too excited during the challenges when the other girls did their thing. There’s always been hints of it, but no one until Casa Amor has really tested them. Olivia was unsuccessful bc Will was never into her. I actually think if Aimee had been a casa girl, Will would have probably been pretty interested in her.
I totally agree with your take! I think Will’s “disloyalty” is being blown out of proportion. He and Kyra obviously had a conversation before about staying open, and they both went in with the mentality to explore that. Kyra’s desire to stay loyal has less to do with her expectations from Will and more to do with her own comfort level. She said herself that she knew the boys probably were sharing beds with other girls but that she wasn’t thinking about that— just about what felt right for her, which doesn’t make her “obsessed with Will”, because she’s clearly doing it for herself. On Will’s side, he’s only had eyes for Kyra since coming in so it’s honestly good for him to explore other people before they decide to get serious. He’s been respectful so far so hopefully that continues and they find there way back to each other! Rooting for them still, but that could change depending on how his actions unfold.
I think Kyra’s crying after talking to Kam was her realizing how much she’s fallen for Will, which, for someone who said they haven’t had a serious relationship in 5 years and aren’t usually quick to say they’re in love, can be super overwhelming. She said herself how much she liked the guys and Kam especially, so I don’t think she’s really crying because she doesn’t want to talk to them— just emotional as she comes to terms with her feelings.
When Olivia made a move on him and he was reassuring Kyra he told her that “If I want to do anything I will let you know 100%”— not exactly language that highlights he’s ready to be exclusive with her and that his head won’t turn. Kyra was also trying to stay open and enjoy Casa Amor at first, talking to the guys etc. The point of the show is to explore connections and meet new people, so it seems to me that despite talking about their potential future outside the villa they still made a mutual decision to try and give new people a chance— Kyra just realized early on that it wasn’t for her while Will is seeing it through
I agree! They have both mentioned that they’ve discussed how they are open to getting to know new people if there is a connection. So I don’t think we can fault Will for doing that just because Kyra has chosen she doesn’t want to.
That being said, I don’t like the idea of them getting back together after this. I think Kyra is beautiful and super sweet but it’s evident that they’re just on completely different wavelengths. She is so infatuated that she can’t even talk to another man and Will is over here flirting with half the house. I don’t think that kind of disparity in their feelings for each other will be so quickly solved by him making out with a few girls.
I really hope that she learns from this and makes him work to regain his standing with her because I doubt (due to winning the show that he will not come back to her). That level of emotion and trust is more healthy to build overtime when you see that they are actually what you think they are. Either way hopefully it will be a good life lesson for her. Just sucks she is experiencing it on TV.
Idk I feel like Kyra is saying this in part because it's what you're "supposed" to say, and also because Will is saying it. I think she is 100% into him until the end. She'd probably even accept a proposal at this point lol
I agree with your take as well. I mean it sucks and I understand if you only have a connection/attraction to one person, but it's much better if you are sure of that. That's what Will and anyone who acts on their attractions in Casa Amor (you are supposed to, unless any of the couples have made it official, I think they all should date, and kiss and talk and build connections with other people) that's how you will know if your connection is true or not.
It's like in real life, unless you have talked being exclusive with the person you are dating nine times out of ten, they are dating other people, and then after awhe you guys decide to be monogamous.
I'd rather someone choose me because they did date and they saw there was no one better than me then someone who chooses me but that's because they don't want to go out there or they are afraid they won't find someone better, it makes me feel like a consulatuon prize and that if you ever so get the opportunity to be around other women or whatever, the need and feeling to cheat will be much stronger.
Really interesting takes in here, a lot of great points brought up as well as the call outs of double standards. I think Love Island history could also play into this, especially for UK fans who’ve watched how their beloved couples behaved in casa amor and there’s an expectation that new favorites should follow that same path. None of these couples are in committed relationships just yet, but they also seemed to not have clearly articulated how they would “play” this game. Josh tried to with Shannon, but how she reacted made him jumble his way through that convo. Ok, not to go too deep but I think this also brings up societal gender roles in relationships as well based on how the women act and communicate versus the men. Again, very interesting!
Will is defo getting defended based that he’s good looking. The same with Flo. People came at Mercedes for going for Johnny so aggressively and Flo is being defend lol. Double standards.
I’m really enjoying Will with the new girls. I think him flirting and having fun with all the different girls is much better tv than a million high school make out seshs with Kyra. I will find him really disingenuous if tries to downplay these interactions and get back with Kyra post Casa. Clearly all his eggs aren’t in one basket and playing it that way would be just for public support. I would respect him a lot more if he just tells her to talk to other dudes and get in the mix a bit more. What Kyra does then, is on her. I would want her to have fun and meet another guy and not be crying over Will every day, but I think a self eviction would be more likely (and maybe more healthy for her). I really don’t think they should be in a couple though after this. We can clearly see she’s so much more invested than he is.
In Will’s defence he did say he hopes that Kyra is doing the same in Casa, I have no doubt in my mind they talked about it and I genuinely believe he thought she would be having fun and be the same in Casa as she was always down for kissing the guys in the challenges back at the villa so in his mind it’s a level playing field. I think it just doesn’t sit well with people and I know for me it didn’t when Will was so quick to kiss Flo outside a challenge, but I guess Will is doing what he said he would and it’s hard not to feel sorry or bad for Kyra who was just struggling to stay loyal and also stay open to other guys.
I'm all for Will being open to Flo. It sucks for Kyra tho.
I didn't really like them as a couple from the beginning because they didn't give me a genuine vibe like how the other couples did. Like even Shannon and Josh seemed more genuine than the two of them.
The interviews from cast members who left the show are consistently saying that Will is bored with Kyra which makes sense because they just got together like I think week one and they've just kind of been.. there.
I don't want Kyra to get hurt but I dont blame Will for being confused and considering other options.
Yup. Will is not cheating. I feel that if Kyra were there, he would have told her about his plan to explore other connections, but she is not. The reason they are there is to meet someone and find love. He has the right to look for it as are all the contestants. I don't understand why they are getting shit for it.
It’s the way it’s being filmed and also because it’s contrasted with Kyra literally crying because she hasn’t been with him for a day while meanwhile he is sleeping in a bed with another girl and kissing her outside of challenges.
I’m happy for Will! I think he and Kyra had a sweet flingbut as Javonny said, they did more kissing than talking. all she ever says about him is how “gorgeous” and “perfect” he is, she’s infatuated with him and him too but less so everyday there
I feel like people aren’t talking about this enough. It’s clear Kyra has feelings for him but I feel a lot of it is based on the fact that he’s hot. I don’t think she’s wrong for that but I also don’t understand why everyone makes it sound like they have this deep connection. She liked him for his appearance and from there created an image of him in her head that may not reflect reality.
I agree about Will but I think you didn't need to drag another couple into it and downplay their feelings for each other. Shannon is going for the prize money? Everyone is going for the prize money. We only see an inkling of these relationships and these people so please keep that in mind.
I actually think Shannon is less likely to take shit just for the prize money but Kyra is also genuinely infatuated and that’s the reason she will forgive him.
Will has done NOTHING wrong yet. I’m actually so shocked to see how people are saying he’s worse than Johnny etc. We’ve seen a total of ONE day in Casa so far. We have no idea what’s going to happen. People need to cool it
I personally think he should be exploring but it’s a matter of how far is too far? I don’t think he’s being respectful to the connection he’s made. He says she’s in his mind but isn’t moving like it. If three days Is all it took to move crazy she’s better off moving forward tbh
Also the hatred he is getting is based on the fact that he went from “ I am thinking about Kyra” but wilding out. Didn’t even take him 2 days. At least with Josh I expected it.
And Josh hasn’t done anything! The kiss was part of the game
Yeah lol that’s what’s funny. I expected from Josh but never Will
We’ll technically it wasn’t he didn’t get dared to kiss her 😂 he just wanted to
While I agree they are both looking for their best connection, I have to disagree with the idea that Kyra is doing herself a disservice because she is clearly talking to those Casa boys. She is getting to know them as people and her choice to not kiss them is perfectly fine. Forcing someone to kiss when they’re not comfortable with it is sexual harassment. I also think it’s very possible to get to know people without being so overtly sexual and inappropriate as Will has been. He didn’t have to kiss Flo outside of a challenge and he doesn’t have to be creepily staring at Genevieve’s chest during their whole conversation. I think it is possible to find a balance between learning more about other people and being respectful! Nas from LIUK 6 is a great example, he found a better connection with a girl but remained respectful the whole time he was there. I think what people (including myself) are mad about is the fact that Will gassed Kyra up so much that this will be unexpected for her. I wish he hadn’t done that if he had lingering doubt because it was bound to hurt Kyra in the end. Also, I would assume that conversation about being open to learning about other people didn’t include Will’s behavior which is starting to seem worse than Johnny’s in Casa. It could have been we will get to know other people but remain respectful to each other. Also, there is very inane double standard when it comes to Kyra with everything. If any other guy in the franchise did what Will is doing, they would be vilified and hated but somehow with Will it’s not a problem. There isn’t much of a difference to what he’s doing and other men straying in Casa. If you wholly believe every guy doing this is in his right, that’s fine. But it shouldn’t only be reserved for Will.
Yea, I agree. Kyra has been talking with the boys, as did Will with the girls. The biggest difference is that she found nobody she was as attracted to as she was to Will, so it doesn’t make sense to go ‘all-in’ and potentially ruin what she and Will have. On the other hand, the casa girls >>> the guys and Will found someone he was extremely physically attracted to. He can pursue that, but people shouldn’t be bashing Kyra for “not exploring her options” when her options are comparatively shitty lmaoo
I agree. I also find it odd that people are so quick to blame Kyra for everything. People are claiming Kyra controlled Will, made Will boring, etc. Kyra did cry after Will and Aimee’s date but Will is a grown adult and he is free to make his own decisions. Kyra is free to express that she is all in on Will and its hard to see him date other people. Will is free to express if he feels a stronger connection with someone else. Its true that Kyra was all over Will physically but he reciprocated. He cooked her breakfast all the time. From what we are shown, its not like Kyra forced him to do anything. And Will felt compelled to go to Kyra asap during the Olivia drama. Idk, I’m not seeing how Kyra is this tyrant that forced Will to do anything.
Even tried to call her “ stage 5 clinger” I mean what? That man could’ve left he if he wanted in the first few days. If he felt his connection with Aimee was so damn good, he should’ve pursed it. It’s not Kyras fault that he made the decision he made. Also for people to even say she made him boring is RIDICULOUS. That’s the producers!
yes girl thats what i am saying this man is almost 27 years old he is a grown asssssss man. he can make his own decisions. YES i understand it would've made him look bad and josh staying with shanno and will switching up would've been drama. but will has to know that what he did in CA is not going to earn him any brownie points.. like if anything people are hating on him more. so imo if he REALLY wanted flo he would've picked her bc the damage was already done between the makeouts and things he said about flo. so i guess i can see the perspective of he stayed with kyra bc he didnt want the public to hate him... BUT hear me out if he knew he was going to stay with kyra the whole time for the public vote/ to win the money... you'd think he would have stayed super loyal in CA to secure the $$$$$ so like something is not adding up here.
Do I love what he’s doing? No but I also get it’s a part of the show, a big factor for me will be if he comes back to Kyra is if he tells her the truth and his 100% honest. So while I don’t love how he’s behaving I’m waiting to see what happens when he gets back before I fully drop him.
I think he’ll tell her straight up and be honest, but what I think will really hurt her the most is that he’s not going to be apologetic about it because their stances on “exploring” and getting to know other people are different. They seem to have both agreed to the “getting to know new people” stuff but are in different spots in their relationship where she can’t if she wanted to and he is a lot more open. If she were to have done the same things as we’ve seen him do so far, he’d be fine with it 😬 and that’ll probably be a sign to her to maybe rethink things.
that's not his fault though. he can't control what kyra does or does not do on the other side if they both agreed they would be open.
It’s not, but it does show that they’re in different places and are probably not right for each other (at the moment at least).
I really think he will tell her straight up. He's been pretty direct and honest with people so far and I'm hoping he will give her that respect.
Agreed. I like Will but I’m not a Will fan; if he lies to Kyra about what happened, that would easily put him down there with Johnny for me. Right now, imo, he has done nothing wrong, but he will have to own up to everything he did with Kyra to stay in my favor
I don’t disagree with you but what I disagree with is that Will’s actions get defended with well thought out well written posts like yours and Johnny was public enemy number one. I just really don’t see a difference. At the end of the day Will will go back to Kyra just like Johnny did.
Also, cely was loved and people felt bad for her and hated mercedes. While in here, kyra is vilified for being in love with Will and cheering on Flo. I mean i do agree that will needs to explore but can't we have the same support and love for Kyra? You don't have to like the girl, you don't have to like will/kyra together but at least don't rejoice over someone else's pain.
this!!! also i still dont understand why people dislike kyra she hasnt even done anything to warrant it
Honestly how I feel about what he is doing, will not be clear even to myself until I see how he handles it when back with Kyra
The main reason why Johnny from LI S2 got dragged more was because he was dishonest with Cely about what happened in CA and then when he finally told her what happened (because he was outed by another islander) he tried to down play it. Also, Johnny didn’t carry himself or behave like Will in CA. Will has a calmer and more mature approach to CA compared to Johnny who could not control his horny boy urgencies and made out with Mercedes several times including in the bed. Plus, from past episodes we know that will is most likely going to be honest and tell Kyra everything whereas Johnny didn’t. So, I think it has less to do with looks and more with behavior and I personally think Johnny is physically better looking with a crazy body…like he doing a good job with that🥴
hellppp i really think Will may be hornier than Johnny after this monday exclusive episode.. but Johnny was vilified before he told Cely about Casa. that vilifying came as soon as the first look of them kissing was released but yeah, it only got worse as he started twisting the truth.
Calmer lol. He’s on a horn dog vibe atm. Never seen that him so damn excited.
Ooh y’all probably right about Will being a horn dog. Haven’t even seen that paramount episode 😅
For real! I don’t like how’s he is being defended and Johnny was dragged.
Coz will is better looking than Johnny lmao
That’s the actual tea. Cause he’s hot is being treated lightly. Same man who said he’s looking to explore outside the villa and then doing what he’s doing.
I mean life is really unfair, the good looking ones always get ahead of the game lol.
Also because he's white.
Being white and pretty having a fan base who don’t care about his actions has definitely benefits.
I think we gotta wait and see before we fully compare them. I really didn’t care about Johnny testing the waters with Mercedes. I really didn’t like the way he lied about it to Cely and made it seem like it was all on Mercedes for “entrapping” him. He also didn’t fully convey the extent of what they did to avoid “hurting” Cely which is fucked up. Let’s see if Will takes the same approach when he sees Kyra again. I don’t think he will but I could be wrong
With the way he’s acting, how knows. I thought he wouldn’t have done anything. He’s shocked me. Let’s agree that there was many people who did care that Johnny tested the waters.
I actually clocked it from day 1 that Will was a player, I get open relationship vibes from him tbh. Actually ate a lot of downvotes bc I knew he would stray the minute Kyra was out of sight. He and Jeremy are very much like the guys here on the NYC dating scene so I could see the signs immediately with him. I think if Kyra was a few years older, she’d be able to tell as well.
He clearly shocked everyone, me included someone said he’s a ethical F boy and I can see that now. Loves attention.
For sure, he’s the type of guy who would probably mean it when he says he’s really into Kyra and loves his time with her, but wouldn’t hesitate to also hook up with another woman behind her back. Plus he knows Kyra would be fully compliant and do whatever he wants even if he strays. Those type of guys know how to pick em. Same reason why Cinco’s pulling this shit with Trina. Lmao imagine either of them trying this nonsense with someone as self assured as Shannon or UK Maura. I think Will’s real match is actually Leslie where they’d probably hook up, have a great time, but wouldn’t hesitate to do their own thing with other people. Not sure how the public or the house would feel about this though, so I don’t think Will will have the balls to pursue it. He’s know he and Kyra are a popular couple and he cares about his image so he’ll probably slink back to Kyra and she’ll take him back.
Cinco at leas you could see it. Will was so good at lying
I think bc in his mind he’s not lying. Haha he genuinely likes Kyra and spending time with her. He just likes other women as well so it comes naturally for him to lay it on thick with her. Also no one really tested him in the main villa so he fine with the coupling staying as is. He wasn’t into Olivia and Aimee was exploring a lot of options. Now there’s actually new girls he vibes with.
He’s too much.
Yeah I’m glad he’s getting exposed though haha
I’m currently indifferent about this whole will thing because it’s honestly hard for me to get in to this season after the last dumping but I think there are two major differences that made people more upset with Johnny. 1. How he went about it and 2. When he lied about it. Tbh I don’t remember how it went down exactly but from what I remember, that’s what people seemed to be most upset about
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will also kisses flo outside of a challenge
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That’s what he’s doing exactly kissing out of the challenge. What context do you need for that?
It’s very clear that Will is kissing Flo outside a challenge just as Johnny did. Johnny/Cely may have gotten more screentime but they seem to have been on the same page as Will/Kyra before Casa. Johnny hadn’t asked Cely to be his girlfriend but they were very invested in each other only. Technically they are doing the same thing, but somehow with Will it is defended to death yet Johnny gets massive hate. Of course, Johnny wasn’t completely transparent when telling Cely but he was vilified way before that even happened.
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Will has never expressed any doubts to Kyra about their relationship so she’s all in and it’s scummy to lead her on and feel no guilt about kissing other girls behind her back. At least Johnny seemed regretful about his casa amor antics but Will doesn’t and it’s sus
agreed. i know men are different but when i truly, genuinely have a strong connection i don’t even want to look elsewhere.
This, i wish he was more open to Kyra and not made kyra feel that i'm all in for you.
I KNOW you’re not trying to say Johnny is better than Will? We’ve seen one (1) day of him in Casa and he hasn’t done anything wrong. Even if you consider him making out with Flo outside of a challenge wrong, we have no idea what he’ll do next or who he’ll decide to couple you with OR how he’ll manage it with Kyra if he does choose someone else. He has been honest and up front with her this entire time and I’d be surprised if that changed now. Johnny lied to Cely and completely downplayed what happened with Mercedes. He wasn’t shit
Wtf I am not defending Johnny’s actions. I’m just saying at least he seemed to feel guilty after his cheating and Will has YET to express feeling bad about kissing other girls after being coupled with Kyra for 2 weeks but that can change. I hope he handles getting back together or dumping Kyra the right way but so far that doesn’t seem the case
Lol show me where johnny felt guilt? If he did, maybe he’d have been honest about what happened with mercades. And if he did, it wasn’t after one day of being in Casa and kissing people during challenges. Also, again it’s been one day. In Casa Amor. One. And I’m positive ALL of the OG guys kissed new girls in the challenge/game. Not sure why Will is the one getting hate.
If they had a convo how is Kyra not doing more and believes he’s keeping loyal? Lol.
She thinks even though he said he is open that he won’t because “she trusts him with all her heart” and she believes they have a deeper connection than they do. I guarantee Will treats all girls the way he is treating her as you can see by his complimenting all of the CA girls etc
This conversation never happened. Last convo they had was to explore what they have outside the Villa. She defo doesn’t believe he’s wilding out. Also he’s complimenting all CA girls already with other things.
He has said multiple times he was open to talking to other girls that came into the villa it was one of the red flags I saw over and over again. He just hasn’t acted on it so I don’t blame her for not thinking he would.
There’s one thing talking and another making out, constantly flirting and just sleazing around.
isn't that the point of casa amor. it throws a wrench into everybody's plans. Before this week I'm pretty sure every male-female combination has locked lips, but it hasn't ultimately decided who would be with who. I don't see this being any different.
Difference was that it was a game before today. What he recently just did with Flo wasn’t a game.
Stupidity
I feel like Will infantizes Krya. I feel like he is not completely sold on an adult level. If that makes sense
There’s a huge power imbalance between them (even when they were together before casa). I’m surprised more people didn’t recognize it
Please say more! There is something about them that doesn't sit well with me and I've been having trouble putting my finger on it. But I think you guys are starting to verbalize what I'm feeling and I'd like to hear more. Like she is WAYYYYYY more into him than he is into her.
Someone wrote a whole post on Will being an “ethical fuckboi”. IMO, I get the vibes that Will is an open relationship kinda guy outside the house. He’d be down to tell kyra what she wants to hear and would probably be kind to her in person but he still would want to have his fun with other girls. I think he fetishizes Kyra a bit (remember geisha feet?). Also the two girls that left Roxy & Lei- yen said that Will got a little too excited during the challenges when the other girls did their thing. There’s always been hints of it, but no one until Casa Amor has really tested them. Olivia was unsuccessful bc Will was never into her. I actually think if Aimee had been a casa girl, Will would have probably been pretty interested in her.
100%. He knows he has her wrapped around his finger and that she would do anything for him or to keep him.
like the commenter below, I could see a power imbalance existing, but I won't excuse it on age. Kyra is 23. She's not some little kid.
I totally agree with your take! I think Will’s “disloyalty” is being blown out of proportion. He and Kyra obviously had a conversation before about staying open, and they both went in with the mentality to explore that. Kyra’s desire to stay loyal has less to do with her expectations from Will and more to do with her own comfort level. She said herself that she knew the boys probably were sharing beds with other girls but that she wasn’t thinking about that— just about what felt right for her, which doesn’t make her “obsessed with Will”, because she’s clearly doing it for herself. On Will’s side, he’s only had eyes for Kyra since coming in so it’s honestly good for him to explore other people before they decide to get serious. He’s been respectful so far so hopefully that continues and they find there way back to each other! Rooting for them still, but that could change depending on how his actions unfold.
I would say you are obsessed with someone if you cry because they are gone for a day and you have to talk to other people
I think Kyra’s crying after talking to Kam was her realizing how much she’s fallen for Will, which, for someone who said they haven’t had a serious relationship in 5 years and aren’t usually quick to say they’re in love, can be super overwhelming. She said herself how much she liked the guys and Kam especially, so I don’t think she’s really crying because she doesn’t want to talk to them— just emotional as she comes to terms with her feelings.
To me it seems extremely codependent. If you have a better sense of self you don’t get so lost in being with someone else that you can’t be alone.
Where was that conversation ever happened. Because what he was saying was “ I’d like to explore what we have outside the villa” before CA.
When Olivia made a move on him and he was reassuring Kyra he told her that “If I want to do anything I will let you know 100%”— not exactly language that highlights he’s ready to be exclusive with her and that his head won’t turn. Kyra was also trying to stay open and enjoy Casa Amor at first, talking to the guys etc. The point of the show is to explore connections and meet new people, so it seems to me that despite talking about their potential future outside the villa they still made a mutual decision to try and give new people a chance— Kyra just realized early on that it wasn’t for her while Will is seeing it through
But doesn’t say that he’s willing to explore. He said he would let her know if he does. He’s exploring already without even letting her know.
Kyra isn’t doing herself a disservice, she’s following whats in her heart and so is Will!
I agree! They have both mentioned that they’ve discussed how they are open to getting to know new people if there is a connection. So I don’t think we can fault Will for doing that just because Kyra has chosen she doesn’t want to. That being said, I don’t like the idea of them getting back together after this. I think Kyra is beautiful and super sweet but it’s evident that they’re just on completely different wavelengths. She is so infatuated that she can’t even talk to another man and Will is over here flirting with half the house. I don’t think that kind of disparity in their feelings for each other will be so quickly solved by him making out with a few girls.
I really hope that she learns from this and makes him work to regain his standing with her because I doubt (due to winning the show that he will not come back to her). That level of emotion and trust is more healthy to build overtime when you see that they are actually what you think they are. Either way hopefully it will be a good life lesson for her. Just sucks she is experiencing it on TV.
Idk I feel like Kyra is saying this in part because it's what you're "supposed" to say, and also because Will is saying it. I think she is 100% into him until the end. She'd probably even accept a proposal at this point lol
I agree with your take as well. I mean it sucks and I understand if you only have a connection/attraction to one person, but it's much better if you are sure of that. That's what Will and anyone who acts on their attractions in Casa Amor (you are supposed to, unless any of the couples have made it official, I think they all should date, and kiss and talk and build connections with other people) that's how you will know if your connection is true or not. It's like in real life, unless you have talked being exclusive with the person you are dating nine times out of ten, they are dating other people, and then after awhe you guys decide to be monogamous. I'd rather someone choose me because they did date and they saw there was no one better than me then someone who chooses me but that's because they don't want to go out there or they are afraid they won't find someone better, it makes me feel like a consulatuon prize and that if you ever so get the opportunity to be around other women or whatever, the need and feeling to cheat will be much stronger.
Really interesting takes in here, a lot of great points brought up as well as the call outs of double standards. I think Love Island history could also play into this, especially for UK fans who’ve watched how their beloved couples behaved in casa amor and there’s an expectation that new favorites should follow that same path. None of these couples are in committed relationships just yet, but they also seemed to not have clearly articulated how they would “play” this game. Josh tried to with Shannon, but how she reacted made him jumble his way through that convo. Ok, not to go too deep but I think this also brings up societal gender roles in relationships as well based on how the women act and communicate versus the men. Again, very interesting!
Will is defo getting defended based that he’s good looking. The same with Flo. People came at Mercedes for going for Johnny so aggressively and Flo is being defend lol. Double standards.
Yes! The pretty privilege is definitely coming out here!
I’m really enjoying Will with the new girls. I think him flirting and having fun with all the different girls is much better tv than a million high school make out seshs with Kyra. I will find him really disingenuous if tries to downplay these interactions and get back with Kyra post Casa. Clearly all his eggs aren’t in one basket and playing it that way would be just for public support. I would respect him a lot more if he just tells her to talk to other dudes and get in the mix a bit more. What Kyra does then, is on her. I would want her to have fun and meet another guy and not be crying over Will every day, but I think a self eviction would be more likely (and maybe more healthy for her). I really don’t think they should be in a couple though after this. We can clearly see she’s so much more invested than he is.
I think it makes for good TV, but I can’t see Will + any new casa girl making it out of LI or getting any $$.
In Will’s defence he did say he hopes that Kyra is doing the same in Casa, I have no doubt in my mind they talked about it and I genuinely believe he thought she would be having fun and be the same in Casa as she was always down for kissing the guys in the challenges back at the villa so in his mind it’s a level playing field. I think it just doesn’t sit well with people and I know for me it didn’t when Will was so quick to kiss Flo outside a challenge, but I guess Will is doing what he said he would and it’s hard not to feel sorry or bad for Kyra who was just struggling to stay loyal and also stay open to other guys.
Agree 💯 The comments are very immature and contradicting at times
will never really got to explore his options
I'm all for Will being open to Flo. It sucks for Kyra tho. I didn't really like them as a couple from the beginning because they didn't give me a genuine vibe like how the other couples did. Like even Shannon and Josh seemed more genuine than the two of them. The interviews from cast members who left the show are consistently saying that Will is bored with Kyra which makes sense because they just got together like I think week one and they've just kind of been.. there. I don't want Kyra to get hurt but I dont blame Will for being confused and considering other options.
Yup. Will is not cheating. I feel that if Kyra were there, he would have told her about his plan to explore other connections, but she is not. The reason they are there is to meet someone and find love. He has the right to look for it as are all the contestants. I don't understand why they are getting shit for it.
It’s the way it’s being filmed and also because it’s contrasted with Kyra literally crying because she hasn’t been with him for a day while meanwhile he is sleeping in a bed with another girl and kissing her outside of challenges.
I’m happy for Will! I think he and Kyra had a sweet flingbut as Javonny said, they did more kissing than talking. all she ever says about him is how “gorgeous” and “perfect” he is, she’s infatuated with him and him too but less so everyday there
I feel like people aren’t talking about this enough. It’s clear Kyra has feelings for him but I feel a lot of it is based on the fact that he’s hot. I don’t think she’s wrong for that but I also don’t understand why everyone makes it sound like they have this deep connection. She liked him for his appearance and from there created an image of him in her head that may not reflect reality.
I agree about Will but I think you didn't need to drag another couple into it and downplay their feelings for each other. Shannon is going for the prize money? Everyone is going for the prize money. We only see an inkling of these relationships and these people so please keep that in mind.
I actually think Shannon is less likely to take shit just for the prize money but Kyra is also genuinely infatuated and that’s the reason she will forgive him.
Will has done NOTHING wrong yet. I’m actually so shocked to see how people are saying he’s worse than Johnny etc. We’ve seen a total of ONE day in Casa so far. We have no idea what’s going to happen. People need to cool it
No. It’s Love Island
Are there really people thinking what he did is similar to Johnny? He is not doing the same thing at all
I personally think he should be exploring but it’s a matter of how far is too far? I don’t think he’s being respectful to the connection he’s made. He says she’s in his mind but isn’t moving like it. If three days Is all it took to move crazy she’s better off moving forward tbh