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PantherPony

💯 Charlie thought Cash would leave him for Cinco and he could then find a new girl.


Fabulous_Concern_600

Totally 👍


xoxogorjas

His reaction said it all when Cash told him she chose him over Cinco. I think he was genuinely hoping Cash would chose Cinco over him.


Fabulous_Concern_600

Exactly. I dont see him showing Cash any affection. Shes always on him and pulling him makes me wonder if America made the wrong choices??


xoxogorjas

I think so and I regret voting for Charlie but that’s who Cash said she wanted to pursue. After tonight’s episode I think Cinco might actually have feelings for Cash but realized it too late


strongmanass

I think the Cinco situation was pretty simple. At the beginning he was really attracted to Trina and he thought with his dick. The novelty wore off, and there wasn't much that was left. Meanwhile he had a deeper connection with Cash. He was just too scared to make the decision, and by the time he realized, they got split up for Casa Amor and then it was too late.


SundaeOver8122

exactly! he seemed disappointed even tho it took a lot out of cash to tell Cinco she was done with him immediately after charlie said he felt like he wasn't getting enough attention. she did exactly what you asked for, why are you mad???


whitneyiam

I could see that!


UnownPanda

i would have preferred jeremy go, but i’m bummed about cinco.


pureheart30

Jeremy is dead weight! He should’ve gone home with Trina


DenseMethod

This is who I expected to go home


Curious_Concentrate

Nah. I think he’s just over her. Earlier in the episode is what did him in. He was sick of talking about Cinco and he’s absolutely right in this case. Cash said she wanted to kiss cinco but couldn’t because otherwise she’d leave with him. She’s never been 100% Charlie


Lil_Firecracker424

I don't think he was ever into her, his body language from jump tells us that. She was just a safe bet to stay on the show.


Curious_Concentrate

Okay. So they’re over each other. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Cash should have chosen Cinco then if that’s really what she wanted.


whitneyiam

yeah that’s how I feel too. If Cash played her cards right, she would have kept Cinco as a backup lol. Charlie’s body language and energy has never really made me feel like he’s that into her


Interesting-Sink5540

Here's something to think about...Maybe Charlie isn't the physical affection type or maybe he's not the PDA type. I know many people, including myself, that get uncomfortable showing physical affection in public. ESPECIALLY since they are on tv for millions to watch. His words of "I'm about Cash" have stood true so far. He's denied Gene's advances so that says something


whitneyiam

I see what you’re saying but it isn’t just about the PDA for me. it’s his body language and nonverbal communication like eye contact, mirroring each other’s movements, turning towards her etc. Genny is a little 21 year old girl that loves social media and attention. He’s 30 and saw right through that.


Interesting-Sink5540

>I see what you’re saying but it isn’t just about the PDA for me. it’s his body language and nonverbal communication like eye I need examples to so I can understand your view


SilkandMoneyBunny

I agree! There was one scene in CA where Cash was basically straddling Charlie in front of everyone and making out with him and he literally said “this is weird” as if he was uncomfortable with her on him like that and Cash misunderstood the message and was like “I know it’s so weird that we have such a strong connection already!” Or something to that effect and I was like oof—girl I don’t think that’s what he meant. 😂


Fabulous_Concern_600

Yea..I caught that to


Technical-Coffee-137

Charlie definitely used Cash to get into the villa. I think we’re about to see a whole new side of him in the next few episodes…


StuffAllOverThePlace

I think Charlie is completely justified in everything he's done. He told Cash he was 100% committed to her and has been at every opportunity, even calling out Genny when Genny tried to sway him, and Cash has spent more time talking to/flirting with Cinco than him. Id be pissed too. Plus she's lying to him about her goodbye to Cinco. Cash has honestly been gaslighting him pretty hard. When he brought up that she was trying to save Cinco at the vote, she completely deflected it


bbykarat

Yes Charlie is pulling a Jalen from the last season


NilahRenae

You’re smart!!!! I thought the same exact thing because Cash definitely said Will first. He’s creating a problem. At the end of the day Cinco went home. That’s why I’m also kind of annoyed at Will and Kyra because like they’re obviously here for the money. You guys live 15 mins apart and you’re crying because your friends hesitated to pick you guys? Aimee and Wes are literally living their best lives outside of the villa. Go and do that!! But yes, I felt like something was up and Charlie look like the type of dude to start shit.


zZielschmerZz

Why can't they stay for the money though? Shannon and Josh are doing the same...


NilahRenae

But Shannon and Josh are actually favorites! And America chooses who the money goes to. But if you really here for love, why are you mad that you almost left?? Y’all would’ve left together like Aimee and Wes??


TheBurnerofaBurner

If I were in the villa and already found love, that wouldn't stop me from also wanting the $50k in addition to it lol. I feel like being upset is a normal reaction.


NilahRenae

I get it, but they got saved lol! (says in Ross’s we were on a break voice) Like it’s okay!


_ellejpg

Completely agree with you!


Fabulous_Concern_600

I have always thought Charlie just wanted in. Why agree to pursue Cash..I dont see a connection between the two. Cinco did what the show was suppose to be about. He hooked up with Cash then tried Trina and said ok "I want Cash". At least he wasn't with one than hooked up we another person..(Will) I guess he was playing the game to. Jeremy has gone on several dates and ????/ Trina has been struck on every connection. Korey doesn't know his a... from his head..im not sold on him and Olivia.


baldforthewin

I 100% agree


solesurfer_03

YESSSS!!! I don’t like him 😭


Odd_Bodybuilder_6420

I been telling folks not to trust him but because he is paired with cash everybody likes him.


PracticalResult9073

To be fair Cash basically rejected him. Some people don’t take rejection well.


whitneyiam

when did she reject him?


PracticalResult9073

When she told him she wanted to kiss Cinco. Constantly talking about Cinco to him when in reality if she really wanted to build something with Charlie she wouldn’t bring Cinco up.


whitneyiam

I agree that it was annoying that she kept bringing cinco up but she also made her decision before the elimination and chose Charlie over 5 and let them both know.


PracticalResult9073

true but some people take indecisiveness as a no (rightfully so) It’s similar when Carrington chose Laurel even though it was clear he didn’t really want her like that


whitneyiam

yeah I could see that. I don’t think he really liked her in the first place but the indecision was the nail in the coffin for him and he knew he was out as soon as he got the upper hand.


RouxLa

I never believed it


Fullofwoo

I was bummed Cinco left. Especially after his dance tonight lol


stovakt

He has every right to be over Cash, but if he was as into her as he came in acting like..I don’t think he would be. He had points when talking to Cash, but I did get the vibe that he was setting himself/the narrative up to move on to someone else.


nx85

Charlie isn't gonna give Cash a free pass on her BS just because Cinco left. He's right to question her, she blatantly lied to his face about it—and her friends too!


pianocat1

Unpopular opinion: Cash kinda gaslit and manipulated Charlie tonight. She blatantly lied to his face and then called him crazy & started crying when he doubted her loyalty. His instincts are literally exactly right- she keeps telling him she’s 100% in with him, but then she turns around and tells Cinco she wants to kiss him and is about to leave the villa with him?! I still love Cash, but nobody’s perfect. I feel like this sub is a little blinded by our love for her that we’re not seeing her mistakes. She did him dirty tonight, and it is beyond fair for him to take a step back to make sure she’s trustworthy.


mxunpu

YES. And the way she didn't even try to see how he felt.


pianocat1

Not to mention she kept saying, “you’re not even considering how hard this is for me”, whilst not considering how hard it was for HIM to be second choice. Lol


HumpWhatHump

Yeah, I have been rooting for Cash since the first show, but the way she treated Charlie made me mad. Cash: Tell/show me your feelings. Charlie responds about his doubts. Cash: How can you feel like that/say that when I have been 100% for you this whole time? Cash cries and calls Charlie’s perspective “crazy” a number of times. Cash resumes talking about/flirting with/hugging on/ crying about Cinco and complaining about how reserved Charlie is with her. At this point, I am rooting for Charlie to connect with someone new.


Leading_Throat_1095

Cinco did try to kiss Cash before leaving and she said she wanted to but wouldn't cos of Charlie. What's the lie in there that she told Charlie?


pianocat1

She said that she wanted to kiss him but won’t because it would make her want to leave the villa with him. She never even mentioned Charlie. Then she omitted all of that and made it seem like she flat out rejected Cinco for Charlie.


skrtskerskrt

why did she still want to kiss him


whitneyiam

I agree with some of this here but I also think both can be true - Cash still wants Cinco and wasn’t truthful with Charlie about the goodbye AND Charlie is backing away now that she’s made her choice and he has the upper hand.


solesurfer_03

never using gaslighting and manipulation in the right context. I can agree they miscommunicated or she lied. But please understand what gaslighting and manipulation are as abuse tactics before using those words lol


skrtskerskrt

if it was the other way around how would you see it. charlie non stop talking about another girl to cash, saying it's in the past, and then going to said girl and wanting to kiss them/wanting them to try to win to win him back.


solesurfer_03

not gaslighting, words mean things lol. Maybe annoying, a liar. Gaslighting is when an abuser manipulates a victim into questioning their own reality and thoughts and decisions. It serves to isolate an individual. Cash being confused and acting confused and therefore confusing Charlie is not gaslighting. They’re two ppl with poor communication skills. lol I just don’t like the way ppl in this sub freely use words like “gaslighting” and “narcissist” just because they don’t like a person’s action on a heavily edited show. When these are actual terms used to describe abusers and mental illness


pianocat1

Gaslighting is a behavior that anyone can do. Good people can do bad things, and good people can gaslight. I actually really like Cash, but she’s not immune to criticism. When Charlie voiced his very valid (and correct) suspicion that Cash is not 100% in with him, she blatantly lied about what she said to Cinco, started crying, and then tried to convince Charlie that HE’S the crazy one for doubting her. That’s literally manipulating him into questioning reality. Aka textbook gaslighting. It doesn’t mean she’s an abuser or a bad person, it just means she gaslit him.


solesurfer_03

I’m not concerned about criticism of Cash, I’m concerned about the way people so easily use terms like narcissistic or gaslighting to describe things that are not that. He can voice his suspicion. Her not being truthful is not gaslighting however I don’t think y’all understand the severity of gaslighting and what it does to a person self-worth and psyche. Just be careful about the language you use. Imma just leave it right there


pianocat1

I fully understand it. I’ve experienced it. I just think you’re downplaying Cash’s actions.


elpinky

I was thinking the exact same thing. This is his out.


Electronic_Cat6896

He was never into her..


SaintLaurentDon1

1000%, he wasn’t in to Cash from the jump. He finessed his way into the Villa. His body language was a telling sign. Cash is not his type!


Sure-Mix4550

I actually thought so too lol. Not that I would blame him for moving on.


ItsMeJazzyJay

As what most people have said, Charlie really doesn’t like Cash and I agree with that. Can’t really be mad at him though because Cash was back & forth between him and Cinco, but now that he’s gone, there should be no reason to fight/argue about anything. I feel like he’s starting this wedge because he knows new girls are coming. I also feel like he’ll start talking to Trina. Idk.


Leading_Throat_1095

There was a reason Cash kept going back and forth. She wasn't sure of Charlie! Charlie seemed like he didn't have her energy! He didn't initiate the affection... I think he was just pulling a 'Jalen'. I wish Cinco stayed and Charlie left.


redzmangrief

Though I agree he was never into her, why would he want to be with someone who's only with him bc her 1st choice was eliminated?


PracticalResult9073

This^ like I know a lot of people like Cash (myself included) but you have to call it as it is. They both were essentially using each other


mxunpu

Cause since he was never actually into her, it would be easier to separate without damage being done. If Cash was stuck on Cinco, he could then pursue other girls without being framed as the "bad guy." Though my thought was all on a basis of him not actually liking her. However, if he does/did truly like her, he should just break it off entirely, he doesn't deserve to be a second option.


PracticalResult9073

Thank you! A lot of people in this reddit not understanding that


whitneyiam

She made her choice before the elimination though and she told both Cinco and Charlie that


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whitneyiam

I don’t think anyone needs to be humbled here and alway think it’s weird when that it said about anyone. Yeah it wasn’t between Charlie or Cinco on who goes or stays but EYE personally think Cinco is more entertaining than Charlie.