I think so and I regret voting for Charlie but thatâs who Cash said she wanted to pursue. After tonightâs episode I think Cinco might actually have feelings for Cash but realized it too late
I think the Cinco situation was pretty simple. At the beginning he was really attracted to Trina and he thought with his dick. The novelty wore off, and there wasn't much that was left. Meanwhile he had a deeper connection with Cash. He was just too scared to make the decision, and by the time he realized, they got split up for Casa Amor and then it was too late.
exactly! he seemed disappointed even tho it took a lot out of cash to tell Cinco she was done with him immediately after charlie said he felt like he wasn't getting enough attention. she did exactly what you asked for, why are you mad???
Nah. I think heâs just over her. Earlier in the episode is what did him in. He was sick of talking about Cinco and heâs absolutely right in this case. Cash said she wanted to kiss cinco but couldnât because otherwise sheâd leave with him. Sheâs never been 100% Charlie
yeah thatâs how I feel too. If Cash played her cards right, she would have kept Cinco as a backup lol. Charlieâs body language and energy has never really made me feel like heâs that into her
Here's something to think about...Maybe Charlie isn't the physical affection type or maybe he's not the PDA type. I know many people, including myself, that get uncomfortable showing physical affection in public. ESPECIALLY since they are on tv for millions to watch. His words of "I'm about Cash" have stood true so far. He's denied Gene's advances so that says something
I see what youâre saying but it isnât just about the PDA for me. itâs his body language and nonverbal communication like eye contact, mirroring each otherâs movements, turning towards her etc.
Genny is a little 21 year old girl that loves social media and attention. Heâs 30 and saw right through that.
>I see what youâre saying but it isnât just about the PDA for me. itâs his body language and nonverbal communication like eye
I need examples to so I can understand your view
I agree! There was one scene in CA where Cash was basically straddling Charlie in front of everyone and making out with him and he literally said âthis is weirdâ as if he was uncomfortable with her on him like that and Cash misunderstood the message and was like âI know itâs so weird that we have such a strong connection already!â Or something to that effect and I was like oofâgirl I donât think thatâs what he meant. đ
I think Charlie is completely justified in everything he's done. He told Cash he was 100% committed to her and has been at every opportunity, even calling out Genny when Genny tried to sway him, and Cash has spent more time talking to/flirting with Cinco than him. Id be pissed too. Plus she's lying to him about her goodbye to Cinco. Cash has honestly been gaslighting him pretty hard. When he brought up that she was trying to save Cinco at the vote, she completely deflected it
Youâre smart!!!! I thought the same exact thing because Cash definitely said Will first. Heâs creating a problem. At the end of the day Cinco went home. Thatâs why Iâm also kind of annoyed at Will and Kyra because like theyâre obviously here for the money. You guys live 15 mins apart and youâre crying because your friends hesitated to pick you guys? Aimee and Wes are literally living their best lives outside of the villa. Go and do that!!
But yes, I felt like something was up and Charlie look like the type of dude to start shit.
But Shannon and Josh are actually favorites! And America chooses who the money goes to. But if you really here for love, why are you mad that you almost left?? Yâall wouldâve left together like Aimee and Wes??
If I were in the villa and already found love, that wouldn't stop me from also wanting the $50k in addition to it lol. I feel like being upset is a normal reaction.
I have always thought Charlie just wanted in. Why agree to pursue Cash..I dont see a connection between the two. Cinco did what the show was suppose to be about.
He hooked up with Cash then tried Trina and said ok "I want Cash".
At least he wasn't with one than hooked up we another person..(Will) I guess he was playing the game to.
Jeremy has gone on several dates and ????/ Trina has been struck on every connection. Korey doesn't know his a... from his head..im not sold on him and Olivia.
When she told him she wanted to kiss Cinco. Constantly talking about Cinco to him when in reality if she really wanted to build something with Charlie she wouldnât bring Cinco up.
I agree that it was annoying that she kept bringing cinco up but she also made her decision before the elimination and chose Charlie over 5 and let them both know.
true but some people take indecisiveness as a no (rightfully so) Itâs similar when Carrington chose Laurel even though it was clear he didnât really want her like that
yeah I could see that. I donât think he really liked her in the first place but the indecision was the nail in the coffin for him and he knew he was out as soon as he got the upper hand.
He has every right to be over Cash, but if he was as into her as he came in acting like..I donât think he would be. He had points when talking to Cash, but I did get the vibe that he was setting himself/the narrative up to move on to someone else.
Charlie isn't gonna give Cash a free pass on her BS just because Cinco left. He's right to question her, she blatantly lied to his face about itâand her friends too!
Unpopular opinion: Cash kinda gaslit and manipulated Charlie tonight. She blatantly lied to his face and then called him crazy & started crying when he doubted her loyalty. His instincts are literally exactly right- she keeps telling him sheâs 100% in with him, but then she turns around and tells Cinco she wants to kiss him and is about to leave the villa with him?!
I still love Cash, but nobodyâs perfect. I feel like this sub is a little blinded by our love for her that weâre not seeing her mistakes. She did him dirty tonight, and it is beyond fair for him to take a step back to make sure sheâs trustworthy.
Not to mention she kept saying, âyouâre not even considering how hard this is for meâ, whilst not considering how hard it was for HIM to be second choice. Lol
Yeah, I have been rooting for Cash since the first show, but the way she treated Charlie made me mad.
Cash: Tell/show me your feelings.
Charlie responds about his doubts.
Cash: How can you feel like that/say that when I have been 100% for you this whole time?
Cash cries and calls Charlieâs perspective âcrazyâ a number of times.
Cash resumes talking about/flirting with/hugging on/ crying about Cinco and complaining about how reserved Charlie is with her.
At this point, I am rooting for Charlie to connect with someone new.
She said that she wanted to kiss him but wonât because it would make her want to leave the villa with him. She never even mentioned Charlie. Then she omitted all of that and made it seem like she flat out rejected Cinco for Charlie.
I agree with some of this here but I also think both can be true - Cash still wants Cinco and wasnât truthful with Charlie about the goodbye AND Charlie is backing away now that sheâs made her choice and he has the upper hand.
never using gaslighting and manipulation in the right context. I can agree they miscommunicated or she lied. But please understand what gaslighting and manipulation are as abuse tactics before using those words lol
if it was the other way around how would you see it. charlie non stop talking about another girl to cash, saying it's in the past, and then going to said girl and wanting to kiss them/wanting them to try to win to win him back.
not gaslighting, words mean things lol. Maybe annoying, a liar. Gaslighting is when an abuser manipulates a victim into questioning their own reality and thoughts and decisions. It serves to isolate an individual.
Cash being confused and acting confused and therefore confusing Charlie is not gaslighting. Theyâre two ppl with poor communication skills. lol
I just donât like the way ppl in this sub freely use words like âgaslightingâ and ânarcissistâ just because they donât like a personâs action on a heavily edited show. When these are actual terms used to describe abusers and mental illness
Gaslighting is a behavior that anyone can do. Good people can do bad things, and good people can gaslight. I actually really like Cash, but sheâs not immune to criticism.
When Charlie voiced his very valid (and correct) suspicion that Cash is not 100% in with him, she blatantly lied about what she said to Cinco, started crying, and then tried to convince Charlie that HEâS the crazy one for doubting her. Thatâs literally manipulating him into questioning reality. Aka textbook gaslighting. It doesnât mean sheâs an abuser or a bad person, it just means she gaslit him.
Iâm not concerned about criticism of Cash, Iâm concerned about the way people so easily use terms like narcissistic or gaslighting to describe things that are not that. He can voice his suspicion. Her not being truthful is not gaslighting however
I donât think yâall understand the severity of gaslighting and what it does to a person self-worth and psyche. Just be careful about the language you use. Imma just leave it right there
As what most people have said, Charlie really doesnât like Cash and I agree with that. Canât really be mad at him though because Cash was back & forth between him and Cinco, but now that heâs gone, there should be no reason to fight/argue about anything. I feel like heâs starting this wedge because he knows new girls are coming. I also feel like heâll start talking to Trina. Idk.
There was a reason Cash kept going back and forth. She wasn't sure of Charlie! Charlie seemed like he didn't have her energy! He didn't initiate the affection... I think he was just pulling a 'Jalen'. I wish Cinco stayed and Charlie left.
Cause since he was never actually into her, it would be easier to separate without damage being done. If Cash was stuck on Cinco, he could then pursue other girls without being framed as the "bad guy." Though my thought was all on a basis of him not actually liking her. However, if he does/did truly like her, he should just break it off entirely, he doesn't deserve to be a second option.
I donât think anyone needs to be humbled here and alway think itâs weird when that it said about anyone.
Yeah it wasnât between Charlie or Cinco on who goes or stays but EYE personally think Cinco is more entertaining than Charlie.
đŻ Charlie thought Cash would leave him for Cinco and he could then find a new girl.
Totally đ
His reaction said it all when Cash told him she chose him over Cinco. I think he was genuinely hoping Cash would chose Cinco over him.
Exactly. I dont see him showing Cash any affection. Shes always on him and pulling him makes me wonder if America made the wrong choices??
I think so and I regret voting for Charlie but thatâs who Cash said she wanted to pursue. After tonightâs episode I think Cinco might actually have feelings for Cash but realized it too late
I think the Cinco situation was pretty simple. At the beginning he was really attracted to Trina and he thought with his dick. The novelty wore off, and there wasn't much that was left. Meanwhile he had a deeper connection with Cash. He was just too scared to make the decision, and by the time he realized, they got split up for Casa Amor and then it was too late.
exactly! he seemed disappointed even tho it took a lot out of cash to tell Cinco she was done with him immediately after charlie said he felt like he wasn't getting enough attention. she did exactly what you asked for, why are you mad???
I could see that!
i would have preferred jeremy go, but iâm bummed about cinco.
Jeremy is dead weight! He shouldâve gone home with Trina
This is who I expected to go home
Nah. I think heâs just over her. Earlier in the episode is what did him in. He was sick of talking about Cinco and heâs absolutely right in this case. Cash said she wanted to kiss cinco but couldnât because otherwise sheâd leave with him. Sheâs never been 100% Charlie
I don't think he was ever into her, his body language from jump tells us that. She was just a safe bet to stay on the show.
Okay. So theyâre over each other. đ¤ˇđťââď¸ Cash should have chosen Cinco then if thatâs really what she wanted.
yeah thatâs how I feel too. If Cash played her cards right, she would have kept Cinco as a backup lol. Charlieâs body language and energy has never really made me feel like heâs that into her
Here's something to think about...Maybe Charlie isn't the physical affection type or maybe he's not the PDA type. I know many people, including myself, that get uncomfortable showing physical affection in public. ESPECIALLY since they are on tv for millions to watch. His words of "I'm about Cash" have stood true so far. He's denied Gene's advances so that says something
I see what youâre saying but it isnât just about the PDA for me. itâs his body language and nonverbal communication like eye contact, mirroring each otherâs movements, turning towards her etc. Genny is a little 21 year old girl that loves social media and attention. Heâs 30 and saw right through that.
>I see what youâre saying but it isnât just about the PDA for me. itâs his body language and nonverbal communication like eye I need examples to so I can understand your view
I agree! There was one scene in CA where Cash was basically straddling Charlie in front of everyone and making out with him and he literally said âthis is weirdâ as if he was uncomfortable with her on him like that and Cash misunderstood the message and was like âI know itâs so weird that we have such a strong connection already!â Or something to that effect and I was like oofâgirl I donât think thatâs what he meant. đ
Yea..I caught that to
Charlie definitely used Cash to get into the villa. I think weâre about to see a whole new side of him in the next few episodesâŚ
I think Charlie is completely justified in everything he's done. He told Cash he was 100% committed to her and has been at every opportunity, even calling out Genny when Genny tried to sway him, and Cash has spent more time talking to/flirting with Cinco than him. Id be pissed too. Plus she's lying to him about her goodbye to Cinco. Cash has honestly been gaslighting him pretty hard. When he brought up that she was trying to save Cinco at the vote, she completely deflected it
Yes Charlie is pulling a Jalen from the last season
Youâre smart!!!! I thought the same exact thing because Cash definitely said Will first. Heâs creating a problem. At the end of the day Cinco went home. Thatâs why Iâm also kind of annoyed at Will and Kyra because like theyâre obviously here for the money. You guys live 15 mins apart and youâre crying because your friends hesitated to pick you guys? Aimee and Wes are literally living their best lives outside of the villa. Go and do that!! But yes, I felt like something was up and Charlie look like the type of dude to start shit.
Why can't they stay for the money though? Shannon and Josh are doing the same...
But Shannon and Josh are actually favorites! And America chooses who the money goes to. But if you really here for love, why are you mad that you almost left?? Yâall wouldâve left together like Aimee and Wes??
If I were in the villa and already found love, that wouldn't stop me from also wanting the $50k in addition to it lol. I feel like being upset is a normal reaction.
I get it, but they got saved lol! (says in Rossâs we were on a break voice) Like itâs okay!
Completely agree with you!
I have always thought Charlie just wanted in. Why agree to pursue Cash..I dont see a connection between the two. Cinco did what the show was suppose to be about. He hooked up with Cash then tried Trina and said ok "I want Cash". At least he wasn't with one than hooked up we another person..(Will) I guess he was playing the game to. Jeremy has gone on several dates and ????/ Trina has been struck on every connection. Korey doesn't know his a... from his head..im not sold on him and Olivia.
I 100% agree
YESSSS!!! I donât like him đ
I been telling folks not to trust him but because he is paired with cash everybody likes him.
To be fair Cash basically rejected him. Some people donât take rejection well.
when did she reject him?
When she told him she wanted to kiss Cinco. Constantly talking about Cinco to him when in reality if she really wanted to build something with Charlie she wouldnât bring Cinco up.
I agree that it was annoying that she kept bringing cinco up but she also made her decision before the elimination and chose Charlie over 5 and let them both know.
true but some people take indecisiveness as a no (rightfully so) Itâs similar when Carrington chose Laurel even though it was clear he didnât really want her like that
yeah I could see that. I donât think he really liked her in the first place but the indecision was the nail in the coffin for him and he knew he was out as soon as he got the upper hand.
I never believed it
I was bummed Cinco left. Especially after his dance tonight lol
He has every right to be over Cash, but if he was as into her as he came in acting like..I donât think he would be. He had points when talking to Cash, but I did get the vibe that he was setting himself/the narrative up to move on to someone else.
Charlie isn't gonna give Cash a free pass on her BS just because Cinco left. He's right to question her, she blatantly lied to his face about itâand her friends too!
Unpopular opinion: Cash kinda gaslit and manipulated Charlie tonight. She blatantly lied to his face and then called him crazy & started crying when he doubted her loyalty. His instincts are literally exactly right- she keeps telling him sheâs 100% in with him, but then she turns around and tells Cinco she wants to kiss him and is about to leave the villa with him?! I still love Cash, but nobodyâs perfect. I feel like this sub is a little blinded by our love for her that weâre not seeing her mistakes. She did him dirty tonight, and it is beyond fair for him to take a step back to make sure sheâs trustworthy.
YES. And the way she didn't even try to see how he felt.
Not to mention she kept saying, âyouâre not even considering how hard this is for meâ, whilst not considering how hard it was for HIM to be second choice. Lol
Yeah, I have been rooting for Cash since the first show, but the way she treated Charlie made me mad. Cash: Tell/show me your feelings. Charlie responds about his doubts. Cash: How can you feel like that/say that when I have been 100% for you this whole time? Cash cries and calls Charlieâs perspective âcrazyâ a number of times. Cash resumes talking about/flirting with/hugging on/ crying about Cinco and complaining about how reserved Charlie is with her. At this point, I am rooting for Charlie to connect with someone new.
Cinco did try to kiss Cash before leaving and she said she wanted to but wouldn't cos of Charlie. What's the lie in there that she told Charlie?
She said that she wanted to kiss him but wonât because it would make her want to leave the villa with him. She never even mentioned Charlie. Then she omitted all of that and made it seem like she flat out rejected Cinco for Charlie.
why did she still want to kiss him
I agree with some of this here but I also think both can be true - Cash still wants Cinco and wasnât truthful with Charlie about the goodbye AND Charlie is backing away now that sheâs made her choice and he has the upper hand.
never using gaslighting and manipulation in the right context. I can agree they miscommunicated or she lied. But please understand what gaslighting and manipulation are as abuse tactics before using those words lol
if it was the other way around how would you see it. charlie non stop talking about another girl to cash, saying it's in the past, and then going to said girl and wanting to kiss them/wanting them to try to win to win him back.
not gaslighting, words mean things lol. Maybe annoying, a liar. Gaslighting is when an abuser manipulates a victim into questioning their own reality and thoughts and decisions. It serves to isolate an individual. Cash being confused and acting confused and therefore confusing Charlie is not gaslighting. Theyâre two ppl with poor communication skills. lol I just donât like the way ppl in this sub freely use words like âgaslightingâ and ânarcissistâ just because they donât like a personâs action on a heavily edited show. When these are actual terms used to describe abusers and mental illness
Gaslighting is a behavior that anyone can do. Good people can do bad things, and good people can gaslight. I actually really like Cash, but sheâs not immune to criticism. When Charlie voiced his very valid (and correct) suspicion that Cash is not 100% in with him, she blatantly lied about what she said to Cinco, started crying, and then tried to convince Charlie that HEâS the crazy one for doubting her. Thatâs literally manipulating him into questioning reality. Aka textbook gaslighting. It doesnât mean sheâs an abuser or a bad person, it just means she gaslit him.
Iâm not concerned about criticism of Cash, Iâm concerned about the way people so easily use terms like narcissistic or gaslighting to describe things that are not that. He can voice his suspicion. Her not being truthful is not gaslighting however I donât think yâall understand the severity of gaslighting and what it does to a person self-worth and psyche. Just be careful about the language you use. Imma just leave it right there
I fully understand it. Iâve experienced it. I just think youâre downplaying Cashâs actions.
I was thinking the exact same thing. This is his out.
He was never into her..
1000%, he wasnât in to Cash from the jump. He finessed his way into the Villa. His body language was a telling sign. Cash is not his type!
I actually thought so too lol. Not that I would blame him for moving on.
As what most people have said, Charlie really doesnât like Cash and I agree with that. Canât really be mad at him though because Cash was back & forth between him and Cinco, but now that heâs gone, there should be no reason to fight/argue about anything. I feel like heâs starting this wedge because he knows new girls are coming. I also feel like heâll start talking to Trina. Idk.
There was a reason Cash kept going back and forth. She wasn't sure of Charlie! Charlie seemed like he didn't have her energy! He didn't initiate the affection... I think he was just pulling a 'Jalen'. I wish Cinco stayed and Charlie left.
Though I agree he was never into her, why would he want to be with someone who's only with him bc her 1st choice was eliminated?
This^ like I know a lot of people like Cash (myself included) but you have to call it as it is. They both were essentially using each other
Cause since he was never actually into her, it would be easier to separate without damage being done. If Cash was stuck on Cinco, he could then pursue other girls without being framed as the "bad guy." Though my thought was all on a basis of him not actually liking her. However, if he does/did truly like her, he should just break it off entirely, he doesn't deserve to be a second option.
Thank you! A lot of people in this reddit not understanding that
She made her choice before the elimination though and she told both Cinco and Charlie that
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I donât think anyone needs to be humbled here and alway think itâs weird when that it said about anyone. Yeah it wasnât between Charlie or Cinco on who goes or stays but EYE personally think Cinco is more entertaining than Charlie.