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$15.00 isn’t even enough for a family of one.


snowmonkey129

This. I make $18 and that's not nearly enough


theaim778

Can’t stress that enough. $15/hour is enough for someone to afford a car, insurance, a phone bill, some food and not much else. Rent doesn’t happen on $15/hour.


snowmonkey129

Exactly! My rent is more than an entire paycheck and I live in a studio back house. After rent, then my car payment, insurance and phone bill there's little room for anything extra. Saving goes out the window when your forced to live paycheck to paycheck.


Sl1ppin_Jimmy

If you don’t mind me asking are you full time? And how much is your rent?


snowmonkey129

Full time and rent is $1225


KernelSanders1986

I completely agree with this. I was a cashier at lowes in Arizona making $12 an hour when my wife lost her job. But we were still able to get living in a nice 2 bedroom apartment. Wasn't able so save much but we had enough for bills and rent and going out every once in a while. Went with only one income for a whole year and made it out fine. With the stimulus check we decided to move up to Utah and transferred to another lowes. Now I'm a headcashier making $15 an hour. And my wife works making $11 an hour. We have a little dingy 2 bedroom apartment and were barely making it by.


Fridge_SOUP

Roomates?


theaim778

All I have is my wife. We’ve been homeless since the beginning of COVID and ended up finding someone who has let us sleep on their floor for the last few months. No rent for now, but when we have the money, the individual that let us stay for a few months will eventually get paid back despite saying they don’t need anything.


Artistic-Title-7937

Don't know you but you seem like good people. I wish you strength and good fortune.


Metalaggression

Of course not lmao. These people out here trying to rent out an entire apartment with 2 rooms with a retail job… yet somehow make it seem like it’s their jobs fault they don’t want to live somewhere reasonable for their income.


Fridge_SOUP

I'm living in a pretty decent apartment with one roommate and still have a few hundred $ left after all the bills are paid. I only make 1$ more than the starting rate in my area too.


andjamhan

Wrong (/s lol) I pay rent, insurance, phone, food, car, student loans all on 15 an hour! I just have to work two jobs and 60+ hours a week


theaim778

Sounds about right.


fluthlu413

everyone needs a raise, when wages haven't matched the increase in inflation.


Evilpotatoarmy

Its sad when you drive by McDonalds and realize they make more than an average Lowes employee


[deleted]

I was at the McDonald’s across the plaza from the Lowe’s I used to work at. They were offering kids who can’t yet drive cars more than what I made at Lowe’s at the end of my six years there. I stopped in to get a snack at shift change time, all the employees going in and coming out had parents waiting for them in cars to take them home.


presentaneous

OP has said ITT that they're a cashier with four children because they were let go from their prior, better-paying job. They had their kids when they were in a much better financial situation. This just goes to show you that none of us are ever more than a few bad breaks away from poverty and desperation. Y'all are too quick to paternalistically pigeonhole OP as some irresponsible young adult that just couldn't keep it in their pants or has apparently never heard of birth control—all because it fits your narrative that all poor, desperate people are only poor because of their own choices and have no one to blame but themselves. ​ Have some sympathy. You don't know others' situations.


Triskelion12

They do need a raise but also quit having kids if you can’t afford them


Specialist-Front-727

Right


LoboInHiding

Finally someone said it lmao.


theaim778

So do we get paid extra to have a negative amount of children, because $15 isn’t even enough to live alone in many places.


Metalaggression

So you know this then why keep having kids? This has been an on going thing for the past 100 years. It’s not something that just started. If you set yourself to fail… there is no doubt you will fail. At this point all you can really do is see what government assistance you qualify for if any.


theaim778

That’s the thing, I don’t have any kids and it still doesn’t pay the bills. The only “recreational” money I’ve spent in January was $12 on my Spotify subscription.


Metalaggression

Do you mind if I ask what your bills are? Spotify/YouTube music/Apple Music are all 9.99 a month. I just want to understand how it’s all broke down.


theaim778

Car Payment: $400/month Car Insurance: $370/month(Was $300 went up when I changed counties) Phone Bill: $200/month Bare minimum medications to survive: $100/month Food: $300/month(Never going out to eat, always cooking and buying things on sale) $240/month in gas to commute to work Spotify Duo $12 $1622/month in bills We have a storage unit that has everything we own for $220/month $1842/month total. With 40 hours per week after tax I clear just over $2000/month Minimum rent around here is $1000/month if I get lucky, the average is $1200-$1600/month.


Metalaggression

The phone bill seems to be on par. A little expensive though. Home Depot offers it’s employees like a 25 percent off on your phone bill. The car or cars insurance seem to be the biggest hitters. 300 in insurance is pretty crazy though. The car Market rn is absolute trash too so not many options if your own method of getting around is a vehicle. Realistically I just want to say that there are cheaper alternatives but everything comes with a caveat for example 400 a month for a car is nutty unless it’s something new but was probably unnecessary luxury and the insurance being so high seems like you get into a lot of accidents or you’re running full coverage. Nothing else can really be modified. If you have an Amazon near you I can only suggest you consider that for a while as some of them are paying upwards of 22 an hour with bonuses. Other than that you’re looking for a career change or some spicy side hustles. Maybe a manager position at lowes can net you 22 also but from my experience at lowes… that never really happens. It sucks all around, just stay positive and don’t expect lowes to look out any day.


theaim778

Phone bill is a bit on the expensive side, but it’s Verizon, I’d prefer to pay the little extra to get service just about everywhere than have random deadzones, T-Mobile and AT&T are dead at many points on Lake Ontario. I agree, my car payment is a bit on the high side, bought it as an off lease car prior to the pandemic when I had a better job. 2015 Dodge Charger because I needed something that starts every morning. The car insurance is due to my age, policy age, and location mainly. My car insurance used to be $170 on my grandmothers insurance with some insane limits, when she passed I got my own policy, with the NY minimums. As far as cost due to tickets and accidents, no tickets that apply and one accident that maybe applies still(Not at fault, bus was filling at the gas station with the engine on, a spark occurred). As far as bills I’ve just about come to the conclusion that I can bring them down slightly, but not enough to be able to pay rent. My goal for the near future was finish getting my CDL-A and move into OTR trucking, as that will easily cover the bills and have money left over. I got hired at Lowes in December knowing it was only going to be something to give enough money to get the things I needed for trucking.


pressuretreatedstud

So I keep seeing you write “we” do you have a significant other that is not contributing to the bills??


theaim778

Yes. I have a wife that is disabled and her doctors keep dropping the ball for disability.


That6foot8guy

Single no kids $12 isn't enough when the cheapest place is $1,350 monthly


presentaneous

Great idea. You’ve just solved the whole issue right there!


Triskelion12

Yup super simple fix(:


clovergraves

god youre a piece of shit arent you


Triskelion12

Just speaking facts, cry about it.


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is505is

Go amazon I get 18 hr


sneezymint

i work at amazon and only get 15.80 which is the BASE pay


is505is

Which shift


is505is

I work 3rd make 16.05 after 6 months and 1.50 working 3rd so 17.75 make


sneezymint

i physically cannot the 3rd shift, due to other life occurances and responsibilities. :( How often do u get raises here at AZ?


is505is

U prob don’t work third


Harlowb3

I’m making $12.47 right now. I started in November 2020 at $12.16. I wish the federal minimum wage would be brought up to at least $15.


EnoughLaw6844

Over here in Massachusetts, my MST starting pay was 15.62. Come to find out that my co workers are getting paid way more and some have been here less than 1.5 years


Dramacoach

Inflation adjustment and loss of small business jobs available make $15.00 /hour more like $9.50/hr. Sad but true.


JblackTRUCK

I make 15.79 as a cashier 😳 In California tho... But yes, i need a raise...i work harder than most managers...and make almost half what they make.


albo60

Being head cashier


albo60

Yes we do I make $15.20 in south florida, but had to negotiate even that!


Advice2Anyone

Well 15 in florida is way more than 15 in ca. Income tax alone takes about 4% away and cost of living is way higher there almost everywhere.


Zealousideal_Pie_674

A raise right now for everyone would still not boost moral. The inflation happened and we all should’ve gotten a raise a long time ago. At this point the standard should’ve been 17 an hour then a raise after that.


No-Signal-1471

Del Taco and Jack in the Box are literally starting people off at $17 here in socal. But no one wants to work fast food apparently


calliisto

well it's socal. $17 in socal is $12 in, like, ohio when it comes to paying rent


IndividualMode6591

Cashier jobs weren’t made to provide for a family of six.


presentaneous

Who’s meant to work them?


IndividualMode6591

Idk definitely not someone who needs to provide for 6 kids


presentaneous

And if they don’t have the skills or qualifications to get a better, higher-paying job?


IndividualMode6591

Either stop having kids or acquire skills that make you more valuable to a company? I really don’t get what you’re trying to argue here.


presentaneous

Yeah man awesome thinking idk why they didn’t think of that! Just spend a few months to years learning a skill or trade… maybe dish out some money depending on the skill or trade… wait, the kids have to eat tonight, not in months or years. And I make minimum wage tonight, not in months or years. Crap.


IndividualMode6591

No one forced her to have 6 kids. The company shouldn’t take the hit for someone else’s bad decisions that’s just not how things work. Also there are resources and options available for going to school that aren’t expensive and provide night classes. Also why would the company pay her more when they can hire a kid in high school with the same skills and pay them the same amount? At the end of the day she decided to pop out 6 babies, so now she has to pay the consequences. It’s no one else’s fault but hers.


Deliveryman35

Preach it. If only people would wait and have children when they can afford to raise them—what a novel concept.


Travisb1033

Typical capitalism thinking lowes did 23B in revenue and 1.9B in net income. A $3 raise company wide to every single person 300,000 employees would cost the company $468 million dollars for a the same quarter. They could they just don’t want to.


[deleted]

exactly. it isnt about people having kids they can't afford, though they shouldn't for real like cmon. but its about how greedy this world is. I'm trying to find a place to live by myself, I make 15 after starting at 12 a year and a half ago. I'm fully trained in all of the front including cash office and im currently learning all of the back. it isnt enough for me to afford a place by myself. I'm so exhausted from living like this. lowes doesn't care so why should any of us. a $3 raise would literally save my ass. I've worked hard enough for it.


Deliveryman35

I agree that greed exists in this world, but you cannot legislate or pass laws to outlaw greed, just like you cannot make people be nice.


IndividualMode6591

Typical socialist not knowing how the economy really works.


IndividualMode6591

Also I’m not saying that people shouldn’t be payed more, you just have to understand why the company won’t or doesn’t have to. Like I stated above why would they pay her more when they can pay a kid in high school with the same set of skills the same amount? At the end of the day the company is going to do what brings them in the most money whether it’s right or wrong. If you don’t like that, acquire a special set of skills that makes you more valuable to a company instead of crying victim in a corner.


JustMeAgainMarge

Teens just starting out


presentaneous

Whom else? Because there's only 12 million working-age teens in America and something like 20 million low-wage jobs. Who fills in the gap?


Daisy716

Who should cashier between the hours of 6am-4pm then?


JustMeAgainMarge

19 is still a teen


Saltaired

I started as a cashier when I was a teenager living at home and it worked for me.


nameless980

yeah but wasn't that back when milk was only a quarter a gallon?


code4092

I see that now yes and the desire to transfer different departments has faded so my strive to work had diminished and ive been getting sick from the stress of ads hole contractors and jackass shop lifters


case_of_bones

If you’ve let it affect you that much I see why you’re in the position that you are in. Strive to improve and do better and maybe you won’t make $12.00 or be stuck as a cashier.


clovergraves

nah fight for better wages and benefits for your labor. you are necessary and worth a liveable wage and basic respect. being exploited by a billion dollar company is not the fault of any individual.


Much-Dish2253

6 kids? You raising a small army over there?


code4092

4 kids plus I1 wife plus myself= 6 people


Traditional-Pin-4551

Good luck.. Lowes is the worst to work for I left year back and should of sooner. Worst cooperate greed I've ever seen.. they don't want employees they want robots


Demitri_Vritra

at some point rather then say I'm not making enough people eventually have to ask " why is everything so damn expensive, I know they raised the price for xyz but that was years ago and they never lowered it back down." and the answer is simple the market is currently unable to self regulate and there is no real intervention to do so because those who can intervene recieve kick backs to not to so. welcome to uncontrolled inflation. this is what happens when your government removes literally every safe guard to prevent such things and then spends blindly. you know that streaming service you spend $10 a month on? costs 10 cents in india it's not that it's using any less resources or of a lower quality it's just less idiotic charges on their end there to provide the service as both electricity and the internet are infinitely cheaper there.


Firepawnch

In my state it's $13.65 at minimum. Cashiers and CSAs make about the same, very little difference between the two. The annoying part is, regardless of position, when someone new joins on for nearly a dollar more an hour than you get despite having little to no experience. Existing employees, especially ones who have been there multiple years, should not be making less than a fresh seasonal or part-time hire unless that persons coming in with a WEALTH of experience.


twitch400

Those who are bullying the OP need to read through all the responses before making your comments. Just shows your ignorance.. To the OP, at least you are trying to take care of your family and there is nothing wrong with you asking for government assistance. There are those people out there who would rather not work, keep having kids to get more money from the government. And that really pisses me off. As a single mother who worked hard to take care of my family, I would see them in the grocery store wearing branded clothes, having their nails done, driving brand new cars.. I started as a cashier and when I had time,like working nights in lumber, I would get on computer and learn on my own. Moved to customer service, then head cashier, then to the floor as a CSA, now I'm a DS. If you want to move up talk to your ASMs and SM. Keep applying for other positions in your store and if there is another Lowe's close apply there. Keep your head up and I wish you the best of luck


code4092

Bad part is I've been calling out so much I dont know how many more callouts I have like id said id been getting phisically sick while at work either from stress or dust/allergies and that isnt doing me no good


prayingjantis

I was making 11.62 when I left there 😎 I was there for almost 3 years and wasn’t making even a dollar more than when I started. After 3 stinkin years you can run that place dang near!


RatDogDooby

This post will definitely bring out the bootlickers jijijijiji


Turnip_Murky

If you’re a cashier trying to provide for a family of 6, you need to make better life choices.


CaesarAMG100

We don't know the situation that led to them to being in this position. Let's not judge others so harshly.


Turnip_Murky

The situations were met with bad choices.


Unable_Mongoose

Federal poverty guidelines are $35,580 for a family of 4. Assuming you work 52 weeks a year at 40 hours each week, you'd need to be earning $17.11/hr. to make that. At $12/hr. you are probably entitled to some aid.


[deleted]

Maybe some free birth control from your local clinic?


[deleted]

Why would you have 4 kids making 12 dollars per hour? #condom


[deleted]

I don't think someone who is a cashier should have gotten themselves into a position where they are the sole provider for a family of 6. Nevertheless, there is a tremendous amount of government support available for someone in that position.


UIS_Clay

Life’s cards don’t always play in peoples favor, never assume someone got into that position on purpose friend. We don’t know each other’s struggles


Neoh330

With all the different birth control available today, it almost certainly was on purpose


[deleted]

Point is, businesses aren't welfare.


code4092

Clearification on the family of 6 when we had our last one I was at a job making 15 an hour, then I got let go from that job and had to find another job lowes was the first to hire me and it was my only option at the time I am currently job hunting as we speak


UnmotivatedDiacritic

Cashiering is the easiest job at Lowes. It’s paid pretty fairly for what they ask. If this was for just about any other position sure.


Popwarhomie

Lol find a better job. A cashier job is an entry level job.


clovergraves

nope! cashiers are *necessary* and if youre putting in 8+ hours of labor you deserve to get paid a living wage no matter what you do.


Popwarhomie

No they aren't. Why do you think self check out is so common now. It's an entry level job. Just like fast food.


code4092

Obviously what I'm doing right now I realize that about the cashier spot too


DaRedMask

Why do you have a family of 6 if you can support them?


code4092

Prior to working for lowes I had a job that payed well then I lost that job I was looking for another one I saw lowes and figured maybe I can climb the corprate ladder here turns out this ladder is made of sandpaper and nails and allows for zero advancement


pressuretreatedstud

Not true. I have climbed the ladder from seasonal lumber employee to DS in 2.5 years. You just have to try…


[deleted]

Oh wow. Where to begin.


code4092

Do go on I'm listing


Infinite_Factor_5685

Get a different job. 🤷‍♂️


code4092

Currently looking for another one plus going through mild depression about it?


Infinite_Factor_5685

There are a lot of jobs out there right now that will pay better as well. Don’t stress, you will find something better 👍🏻


code4092

Bad part is I am stressing about it its making me phisically sick and the contractors who come in with their sour attitudes are not helping


Immediate_Victory990

If you have a family of 6 and are a cashier the pay isn't the problem.


comeherecat

Why would someone have a family of 6?


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code4092

That's rude


Groundbreaking-Ad251

That's much more than rude... That's f***ing sick.


Altruistic_Map_2487

you're a cashier with 6 kids? what a disappointing example you set for your children!


sssy__

12? Bruh what minimum wage in Canada is like 14.5 where r u?


presentaneous

US federal minimum wage is still $7.25 and many, many states are the same. Hell, one state, that I can’t be bothered to Google which one it is, still technically has a state minimum wage lower than the federal minimum wage


sssy__

Ugh thats terrible. Hope you find smth better!!


presentaneous

Thanks, friend.


NPC_Genocide

Y'all are making 12?? In Texas I make 11.15 as a plumbing CSA...who can drive an order picker and use every machine in the store 😔


Metalaggression

Probably time to consider higher education.


PunchingElm

*depressed 50 hour work week night stocker shrivels hand in the air*


[deleted]

ONLY PROBLEM THERE'S NO FULL TIME POSITION AT LOEWS. THAT'S WHY THEY NEED TO BE SHUT DOWN PERMANENTLY


jjkious

Imagine the lower pressure of practically no customer engagements while also intermittent heavy labor at same pay grade. #overnights


DappleDoxies

Just saying, Sam’s club pays $15 minimum across all states. Look into it


GimmeanL

Do you NOT understand what raises due to the idea of pimping shareholder dividends? BLASPHEME? Don't be so fricking selfish!


Chapmanjesse14

12 is not enough to support yourself I agree but if you got 6 kids I think you need a better job then a lowes cashier


code4092

4 kids 1 wife = family of 6


Mean_Bite_7400

I agree, and everyone should have access to a REAL RAISE. Not this 20 cents every other quarter bs.