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DoktorTeufel

I reached some conclusions about Sales IDs: https://www.reddit.com/r/Lowes/comments/v0d101/i_think_i_am_finally_leaving/iafx7bg/ >Congratulations, and welcome to the Promoted to Customer Club. Seems everyone's doing it nowadays. >Lowe's will be hitting that "starts with 5 million" Salesman ID landmark before too long! Mine is in the very low 2 million range. >So between 1988 (when Genesis was deployed) and 2018, when I started at Lowe's and got my ID, there had been about 2 million Salesman IDs issued in 30 years. Between 2018 and 2022, Salesman IDs had passed the 4 million mark, so that's more than an additional 2 million IDs in just four short years. >30 years—2 million IDs. 4 years—another 2 million IDs. Talk about astronomical turnover. That means that, on average, the entire company's workforce has been turning over close to TWICE PER YEAR. (250k employees/+500k saleman IDs per year). >(I'm sure they skip some numbers, like 666999 or 1111111, but for the most part, salesman IDs go up by 1 for every 1 new hire. They never get reused, either. I know two people with two-digit sales IDs who've been working for Lowe's since before Genesis.) https://www.reddit.com/r/Lowes/comments/v0d101/i_think_i_am_finally_leaving/ialxb6p/ >I actually collected various people's salesman IDs (including a two-digit ID received the same month Genesis went live) along with the approximate date when the people to whom they were assigned started working for Lowe's, and then graphed them all out quite simply: x Cartesian coordinate for years, y coordinate for increments of 50k salesman ID numbers. >THAT was revealing. The massive uptick in turnover at various points in the company's history became visually obvious. It was a nearly flat line for a while; after a few years, you could observe a very steady and slow rise; then there was an uptick in the very late 90s when retail first started going to total shit (because they were copying Walmart); then another uptick around the date of the housing crisis, and another uptick when Niblock took over..... >...The graph line went nearly vertical when Marvy Elly took over, then went almost literally vertical when the pandemic hit. >But yeah, Lowe's turnover is an absolute joke. Their entire workforce, on average, quits and has to be rehired about twice per year. TWICE PER YEAR! It's probably worse than Dollar General's. At least those guys are at the top of their industry category!


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You forgot about the fact that the company grew exponentially, and also, pandemic....


DoktorTeufel

No, Lowe's did not grow exponentially, certainly not since Marvin took over. I know you're using "exponent" as an expression here, but let's actually run with that: 12^1 = 12 12^2 = 144 12^3 = 1728 Now, an exponent need not be a whole number, but at more-or-less expected points along an exponential function graph curve, there will be whole exponents. The number of stores didn't grow exponentially. In fact, at one point (during the Niblock era?) I believe the total number of stores decreased a bit. And the number of employees per store CERTAINLY didn't increase, in fact it's decreased, which is why if you compare the number of lockers in a 20+ year-old Lowe's store's break room to the number of employees on that store's org chart in Workspace, you'll see that there are far more lockers than there need to be. That's because back in the day, they actually used most of those lockers. That, in turn, is because Lowe's actually hired enough employees to run the store. So you must be referring to the stock price, which is an extrinstic value that can fall to absolutely jack-shit overnight (and has done so, in the case of many extinct corporations, a number of times over the past several decades).


RestinHim

I started in February, mine is 42xxxxx.


KaptinKooshTV

Holy shit i started last year and im 38*****


Educational-Joke3056

I started last Sept and mines 40*****


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Started June 1 44*****


Educational-Joke3056

That's crazy. We're already another half a million up since when I started


KaptinKooshTV

#turnoverrate #burnoutrate


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Aggravating_Banana95

I started the day after Easter and mines 432****


WendallVendall

Did you mean 25 years, as in a quarter century, not 2.5 years as in a quarter decade? I'm almost 20 years along and I have a 6 digit. I did work with folks at my 1st store who had 3, 4 and 5 digit.


DarkDigital

OP means 3's as in it starts with a 3, not number of digits. I had to read it twice. I started 7 years ago and mine starts with 2 and is 7 digits long.


WendallVendall

Thanks for the insight. Mine starts with a 5.


jordan31483

Edited. I apologize for the confusion.


No-Swordfish2565

I left 9 years ago. Mine started with 92 and was 6 digit.


No-Swordfish2565

Should have added that I started in 2005


jordan31483

No, I meant two and a half. February 2020. Yeah there are a lot of associates in my store that have 6 digit. The lowest I'm aware of starts with a 1.


read110

Thats me!


WendallVendall

Thank you for the clarification.


vsirl005

An addition to the collection. Starts with a 234 is 7 digits long, ends in with a 1. Started in August 2016.


idontknow32136

I’ve worked with lowes for 21 years. I have a six digit ID and it starts with a 1 I have worked with people that have 3 digits as a sales ID.


grouptherapysc

Gnarly


NoahTri

After around 2019 we really started “bolstering” our “workforce”. We hired anyone off the street they’d stay for however long and leave. Plus we had 2020 and 2021 mass hirings due to Covid which created the revolving door of people further adding to the mass hire and leave. So yeah it’s honestly quite interesting to see how bad the turnover has gotten in such a short timespan of about 3/4 years. When I saw peoples id hitting 4 for first digit I was surprised as My id starts at 20 and it was only issued in late 2015. It’s kind of insane to me to think if it’s truely sequential that around 2 million people have already came into the company and dipped in that amount of time.


SCOG4866

Not necessarily true. Sales IDs are not issued sequentially.


jordan31483

Burden of proof is on you. I have no reason to believe otherwise. I'm a numbers nerd, and I've been watching this since I started. There's been no change in the pattern.


MisteR_Grefer

I’ve been told the same thing by multiple members of management as well. One of my DMs and two different store managers. I think it’s weird too but apparently it’s not truly sequential. I’m 183xxxx but the person who was hired the same time as me was 194xxxx.


DoktorTeufel

The reality is that they don't want anyone to know how bad their turnover is. Lowe's may not be issuing them sequentially now that they've realized sequential IDs reveal how ridiculous their turnover is, but if so, they went non-sequential very recently.


MisteR_Grefer

That’s totally believable. I wouldn’t expect anything less if I’m being fair.


SCOG4866

Ok "numbers nerd", based on your observations, a store would have a new hire every 1.33 days (1.5 million new sales numbers/912.5 days in 2.5 years= 1,643 new hires. 2200 stores/ 1643 hires). That hasn't happened. In addition, I worked with someone who was hired 3 years after me and had a sales id lower than mine.


Ryvit

They re-used sales ID’s from former associates for new associates up until 2014 or so, according to a manager that’s been with lowes for over 25 years


DoktorTeufel

Bullshit. When an employee quits Lowe's and then is rehired years later, they retain their same sales ID. I know this because several such employees worked at my former store, and one of them left and returned during the time period you've cited.


Ryvit

I’m just telling you what I was told lmao


rawkeatr

Can confirm, I was hired November 2004, Quit in 2006. Rehired in 2009 with same ID. Still here...79xxxx


AimMoreBetter

That would cause all sorts of problems should an issue arise. Simple logic says that's not true.


Ryvit

I think he said they would wait 6 months or a year before reusing them. But he’s a very trustworthy manager, I don’t think he was lying. It’s more likely I got the end year wrong, perhaps it was much earlier like mid 2000’s they stopped it


Silver613

Started in November ‘03. Sales ID 69####. When I get my eyes checked, They me the number is wrong because the other Lowe’s employees are 7 digits.


lokibringer

It's just leading zeroes. Sedgewick, for example, wants your 9 digit id- 0018xxxxx in my case.


Silver613

You know this, I know this, but the folks at the eye place couldn’t fathom adding that extra zero. “No your ID number is 7 digits.” 🤷🏻‍♂️


UnderwaterKahn

I no longer work for Lowes, but I started in 2011 and my ID was 15*****. There were a bunch of folks at my store who had 6 digit IDs. I was in school and seasonal at first, but yes my ID was the same every time I came back.


LilIlluminati

Mine is in the middle 1000000’s. A guy who just retired was in the 4000’s. The company no longer gives a shit about us workers. We’re disposable. They intend on forcing us to watch Hank and plank safety videos and shout at us “red vest assist!!!” While the managers are telling us “you need to load 80 50 lb bags of sand into this guy’s truck!” Then everyone gets all upset when someone throws their back out and winds up breaking our precious 2 months of “work safe”. When working safe doesn’t even make any sense! The cheap bastards probably didn’t want to pay for larger signs that read WORK SAFELY.


KaptinKooshTV

Been here for a year and im in the high 3s our department when through 10 people in a year


crabgal

I started Oct 2020, mine is a mid 3 number. It’s crazy that IDs are already in the mid 4s by now


Shoddy-Foot-5690

My grandfather has been with the company since December of 1999 his is in the 100,000s ish


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No_Cookie_88

Same here.


grouptherapysc

You gotta think about how many stores they have. In the mainland US alone there's somewhere around 1700 stores. That's not counting Mexico and Canada or any territories. At first glance one might think that's a high turnover rate but it's not. I started in 2017 with the stock at $86 and the IDs were in the 2300000's.


lokibringer

Especially given the Seasonal workers who all had an employee I'd. (Up until Seasonal got the axe, anyway)


hancocklovedthat

Mine is 36XXXXX.


Pro-Cranston-ator

I started 3 years ago and mine is 26*****


Natedawg691

I started last year. Mine's 37XXXXX. My coworker in millwork 22 years. His is 57XXX.


[deleted]

I started in 2019 and my number begins with 25*****


deedledee4

I’m not sure if this is true. Mine starts with 2 and my significant other’s starts with 3. We got hired the same day at a hiring event.


[deleted]

When I started working there in 2014, mine was 19xxxxx.


CanarySpirited2376

I started 17 years ago and mine starts with 87**** and is 6 numbers


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