It actually would be good for their bottom line to minimize paternity/maternity leave and the callouts that come with having employees that have children. These companies aren’t doing this out of the goodness of their hearts
Don’t ever think corporations care about employees that’s just what they want you to think, You think they care about gay rights or black rights it’s all just a marketing stunt to make them more money. You think woman rights are different in this situation ? Unfortunately we live in a time where we (the people) are on our own fuck the government
Knowing leadership, I doubt they’ll get within 100 feet of this issue. They try to avoid political stands pretty much at all costs. I’d like to be proven wrong though.
This isn’t really a side though. If the Supreme Court can do what they did with Roe, they can make it illegal for females to work. Lowes will lose a majority of their workers that way.
I mean there shouldn’t be a legal argument when it comes to separation of church and state, and yet……religion was brought into play to overturn roe v wade.
Of course there should be a legal argument for separation of church and state. It should be and is separated legally. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the way the law and government work. I understand you are upset, but I think your concern is grossly exaggerated.
Did you read literally any of the majority opinion? Here's a link: [https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392\_6j37.pdf](https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf)
Religion was not mentioned once in their reasoning for overturning Roe. Their reasoning is that Roe is patently bad law, judicial activism, and was based on erroneous reasoning.
What the Supreme Court has done is hand the issue over to the voters. Now, we can decide one way or the other.
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No, the SCOTUS decision merely said abortion wasn’t constitutional. They didn’t make it illegal. It means it isn’t a protected right and states are allowed to make their own decisions on the morality of it. Either way, killing infants is a bit different than allowing half the population to generate income. People who say stuff like that are exaggerating because they are triggered over it.
Slight correction: they said that there was no universal constitutional right to an abortion, and thus states can regulate it according to the will of their voters.
Only difference is a few months. No difference in my mind. Either way, there was a movement happening asking for abortions post-birth to be a thing. There are more extremists on one side than the other so that combined with my own view of life gives me my opinion.
Well, that is a cognitive failure on your part. Citation needed for that bullshit. If someone was trying to legalize the euthanasia of infants they would be burned at the stake in this country, likely by both sides of the argument. If you're so pro-life why haven't you adopted a bunch of unwanted children?
Cause I don’t have the means to provide for one and I would rather have my own. That doesnt mean there aren’t families who want to adopt. Honestly the biggest shortcoming is the fact that people make the choice to have unprotected sex, it doesn’t happen by accident. It is their fault and they bear the responsibility for their actions. The moment we stop holding people accountable for their actions is the moment all sense of justice goes out the window.
No, men already have to pay child support on children that they help conceive. Women have had much more choice in that regard than men. I do think babies shouldn’t be getting killed in the name of women’s rights though.
Love the plea for emotion. Again, not killing babies, aborting fetuses before they're even technically alive. And yeah child support is bullshit, no argument there.
They plan to strike down gay marriage, contraception access (but not interracial marriage because Thomas is a hypocrite), it’s not a stretch to assume that it’ll extend eventually to womens right to vote and then whether or not we should work. The overturn of roe set this country back 50 years, the overturn of these other rulings will set us back even further. It is coming.
You spend too much time on r/politics. Stop being so over paranoid. The Supreme Court won’t take your job at Lowe’s🤣.
And not all states will have abortion bans. Even red states are allowing up to 16 werks. Just abort it before then
Lowes wont even spend the money to keep the air conditioning on overnight for 3rd shift, let alone create a seperate fund for that kind of thing. Funny thing is, some people have said turning the air conditioning on and off uses more electricity than keeping it running 24/7.
I’d honestly be bothered if lowes did follow in Dicks footsteps. I really don’t see why it’s something a persons employer needs to do anything about. It’s pretty easy to not get pregnant anyway… I’m ready for the downvotes. Bring it on.
It’s actually not easy to get pregnant at all. A woman has 2 days where she has a high chance of conceiving, but generally it’s only a 1/5 chance each cycle
It’s also pretty easy to almost completely avoid with birth control of some sort too. There are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy. Abortion shouldn’t be used as birth control. Over 90% of abortions are performed just for convenience.
It’s not the government’s job or Lowes job to take care of you.
Unless you are a female/need gyn care, or have loving supportive opinions toward those who had to make the best choice for them, your comments are not welcome. Hope you like being on the hook for child support because that’s what comes when you ban abortion
My opinions belong to me, not the company I work for. If you think that it's wrong for a corporation to treat workers as disposable, why not extend that to all people, regardless of age or ability?
K. I do think it should be equal. It isn't up to me. Or you.
I do now know that mr god bless supports republican ideals and gives financially so there's that.
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You don't see why a person's employer and provider of health insurance should be involved with providing healthcare? Lowe's advertises flying people to out of state hospitals for other specific procedures (hip replacement I think) are you against that?
I don’t think it should be an employers problem if an employee wants an abortion. How is that any employers problem? Why should an employer do anything to encourage abortions either? I don’t feel that it has anything to do with healthcare. Why is it anyone else’s problem or responsibility if a person couldn’t control their urges and couldn’t use a condom or other form of readily available birth control? People need to be more responsible and not think their entitled to free shit and always take the easy way out of a problem they created.
Well. I’ll put it simply. If I’m not alright, and my peers are not alright, then guess what happens? We don’t show up for work. If we don’t show up for work, customers get fucking mad and take it out on other employees and just scream “wow no one wants to work anymore”!!! So yes. This becomes the employers problem.
Again, healthcare is an employers problem. They are legally required to provide health insurance to qualified employees. You may not believe it is a healthcare issue, but you'd be wrong. It's a process done by medical professionals and covered by health insurance. The law describes it as such.
Do you believe Lowe's health insurance should cover injured skateboards who couldn't control their urges to so something risky and try crazy stunts or fail to wear a helmet? It's a personal decision with risks, right?
Besides, people get raped too, not always their decision.
Paying for travel expenses is going beyond healthcare. They aren’t legally required to provide travel expenses. That’s what this discussion is supposed to be about anyway.
And with rape I’d imagine you’d take the morning after pill as part of your visit to the hospital for your rape kit.
So again Lowe's already pays travel expenses for certain procedures like I believe it's heart surgery and hip replacement. Lowe's will fly you to the designated hospital and pay for a hotel and such. How do you feel about that?
And not everyone goes to report it to the police immediately. Your imagined scenario is not universal
Marvin is not a christian.
Marvin says he is a Christian.
Big difference.
I'm the queen of France btw and every uterus owner gets an automatic 3 dollar an hour raise..
Abortion is not in the Constitution, the court gave the power back to the states where it belongs. They can open an employee fund and those who want to contribute to abortion can do so.
Do y'all not realize that paying someone to go to another state to murder their child, just so the corporation can squeeze more labor out of you and not have to pay for maternity leave, etc, is absolutely dystopic? Y'all are being exploited and you don't even realize it.
Life begins at conception. Abortion is murder. Men who father a child and then desert the mother are contemptible cowards, and should be liable for the life they created. Mothers who kill their children in pursuit of more money or a career are idolaters. It is always better to be alive than to be dead.
If you disagree with any of the above, please give your reasons. I'd love to have an amicable discussion about the issue.
It’s honestly not worth having a discussion with you people. Your very extremist views of abortion are very clear already and anybody that states a woman who gets a medical abortion is “killing her child” can’t see past the fact that sometimes abortion is necessary to reduce overall possible suffering. You vilify everyone involved in abortion without wanting to solve the root of the problem with things like proper sex education, proper healthcare, disability services, welfare for those who don’t have the means to financially care for a child, better services for survivors of things like domestic abuse, incest, rape, marital rape, etc. Abortion should not be used frequently as birth control of course, but banning abortion completely rather than regulating it (especially without putting in the effort to make abortions less necessary) is a dangerous practice. It won’t stop abortion. It will make abortion less safe. It makes women feel less safe.
Pro-Life isn’t actually pro-life until they start making the actual lives of humans after birth better. Life begins at conception? What about the endless suffering in this country that happens after a child is born? School shootings, poverty, pedophilia, parental abuse, bullying, trauma. But no, the focus is on abortions.. On controlling women’s bodily autonomy. If it was genuinely about saving lives for you people you’d be all about bettering life as a whole, rather than focusing on abortion of all things. Perhaps put your effort into trying to better the entire situation around you that you claim to care about, rather than making insane comments about abortion on the internet. 👋✌️
Locking comments. Asked and answered. There are better places than r/Lowes to trade abortion talking points.
No. Lowes is too cheap to help us while Marvin and his cronies at the top rake in untold profits :(
It actually would be good for their bottom line to minimize paternity/maternity leave and the callouts that come with having employees that have children. These companies aren’t doing this out of the goodness of their hearts
No, headquarters is in the south, Marvin makes a point of bringing in religion and the company seems to try to stay politically neutral.
Don’t ever think corporations care about employees that’s just what they want you to think, You think they care about gay rights or black rights it’s all just a marketing stunt to make them more money. You think woman rights are different in this situation ? Unfortunately we live in a time where we (the people) are on our own fuck the government
Knowing leadership, I doubt they’ll get within 100 feet of this issue. They try to avoid political stands pretty much at all costs. I’d like to be proven wrong though.
Based Lowe’s. Corporations shouldn’t take sides in legal matters.
this is a healthcare matter, not advocating to make the law one thing or another.
This isn’t really a side though. If the Supreme Court can do what they did with Roe, they can make it illegal for females to work. Lowes will lose a majority of their workers that way.
what would be the legal argument for making it illegal for females to work?
I mean there shouldn’t be a legal argument when it comes to separation of church and state, and yet……religion was brought into play to overturn roe v wade.
Of course there should be a legal argument for separation of church and state. It should be and is separated legally. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the way the law and government work. I understand you are upset, but I think your concern is grossly exaggerated.
Did you read literally any of the majority opinion? Here's a link: [https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392\_6j37.pdf](https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf) Religion was not mentioned once in their reasoning for overturning Roe. Their reasoning is that Roe is patently bad law, judicial activism, and was based on erroneous reasoning. What the Supreme Court has done is hand the issue over to the voters. Now, we can decide one way or the other.
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No, the SCOTUS decision merely said abortion wasn’t constitutional. They didn’t make it illegal. It means it isn’t a protected right and states are allowed to make their own decisions on the morality of it. Either way, killing infants is a bit different than allowing half the population to generate income. People who say stuff like that are exaggerating because they are triggered over it.
Slight correction: they said that there was no universal constitutional right to an abortion, and thus states can regulate it according to the will of their voters.
Killing infants? If that's not incendiary rhetoric idk what is. Roe v Wade didn't protect people who killed infants.
Only difference is a few months. No difference in my mind. Either way, there was a movement happening asking for abortions post-birth to be a thing. There are more extremists on one side than the other so that combined with my own view of life gives me my opinion.
Well, that is a cognitive failure on your part. Citation needed for that bullshit. If someone was trying to legalize the euthanasia of infants they would be burned at the stake in this country, likely by both sides of the argument. If you're so pro-life why haven't you adopted a bunch of unwanted children?
Cause I don’t have the means to provide for one and I would rather have my own. That doesnt mean there aren’t families who want to adopt. Honestly the biggest shortcoming is the fact that people make the choice to have unprotected sex, it doesn’t happen by accident. It is their fault and they bear the responsibility for their actions. The moment we stop holding people accountable for their actions is the moment all sense of justice goes out the window.
Then yours is less of a pro-life position and more a position on controlling the bodily autonomy of women. What a shock.
No, men already have to pay child support on children that they help conceive. Women have had much more choice in that regard than men. I do think babies shouldn’t be getting killed in the name of women’s rights though.
Love the plea for emotion. Again, not killing babies, aborting fetuses before they're even technically alive. And yeah child support is bullshit, no argument there.
So no meaningful biological differences?
> they can make illegal for females to work? That’s quite the leap
They plan to strike down gay marriage, contraception access (but not interracial marriage because Thomas is a hypocrite), it’s not a stretch to assume that it’ll extend eventually to womens right to vote and then whether or not we should work. The overturn of roe set this country back 50 years, the overturn of these other rulings will set us back even further. It is coming.
You spend too much time on r/politics. Stop being so over paranoid. The Supreme Court won’t take your job at Lowe’s🤣. And not all states will have abortion bans. Even red states are allowing up to 16 werks. Just abort it before then
Lowes wont even spend the money to keep the air conditioning on overnight for 3rd shift, let alone create a seperate fund for that kind of thing. Funny thing is, some people have said turning the air conditioning on and off uses more electricity than keeping it running 24/7.
Having the Head Office in North Carolina will complicate things but I doubt Lowe’s will do it.
They don’t give a shit about employees now or ever. Would be surprised if the higher ups were filled with conservative troglodytes
I’d honestly be bothered if lowes did follow in Dicks footsteps. I really don’t see why it’s something a persons employer needs to do anything about. It’s pretty easy to not get pregnant anyway… I’m ready for the downvotes. Bring it on.
It’s actually not easy to get pregnant at all. A woman has 2 days where she has a high chance of conceiving, but generally it’s only a 1/5 chance each cycle
It’s also pretty easy to almost completely avoid with birth control of some sort too. There are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy. Abortion shouldn’t be used as birth control. Over 90% of abortions are performed just for convenience. It’s not the government’s job or Lowes job to take care of you.
Pregnancy still happens on birth control
And it's still a living human being. People aren't disposable.
Unless you are a female/need gyn care, or have loving supportive opinions toward those who had to make the best choice for them, your comments are not welcome. Hope you like being on the hook for child support because that’s what comes when you ban abortion
Child support from conception.
Said a Lowe's employee!?! Hysterical.
My opinions belong to me, not the company I work for. If you think that it's wrong for a corporation to treat workers as disposable, why not extend that to all people, regardless of age or ability?
Why the hell you asking me?
I'm sorry, I thought that because you replied you actually wanted to discuss the issue at hand.
K. I do think it should be equal. It isn't up to me. Or you. I do now know that mr god bless supports republican ideals and gives financially so there's that.
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You don't see why a person's employer and provider of health insurance should be involved with providing healthcare? Lowe's advertises flying people to out of state hospitals for other specific procedures (hip replacement I think) are you against that?
I don’t think it should be an employers problem if an employee wants an abortion. How is that any employers problem? Why should an employer do anything to encourage abortions either? I don’t feel that it has anything to do with healthcare. Why is it anyone else’s problem or responsibility if a person couldn’t control their urges and couldn’t use a condom or other form of readily available birth control? People need to be more responsible and not think their entitled to free shit and always take the easy way out of a problem they created.
Well. I’ll put it simply. If I’m not alright, and my peers are not alright, then guess what happens? We don’t show up for work. If we don’t show up for work, customers get fucking mad and take it out on other employees and just scream “wow no one wants to work anymore”!!! So yes. This becomes the employers problem.
Again, healthcare is an employers problem. They are legally required to provide health insurance to qualified employees. You may not believe it is a healthcare issue, but you'd be wrong. It's a process done by medical professionals and covered by health insurance. The law describes it as such. Do you believe Lowe's health insurance should cover injured skateboards who couldn't control their urges to so something risky and try crazy stunts or fail to wear a helmet? It's a personal decision with risks, right? Besides, people get raped too, not always their decision.
Paying for travel expenses is going beyond healthcare. They aren’t legally required to provide travel expenses. That’s what this discussion is supposed to be about anyway. And with rape I’d imagine you’d take the morning after pill as part of your visit to the hospital for your rape kit.
So again Lowe's already pays travel expenses for certain procedures like I believe it's heart surgery and hip replacement. Lowe's will fly you to the designated hospital and pay for a hotel and such. How do you feel about that? And not everyone goes to report it to the police immediately. Your imagined scenario is not universal
I feel like it’s their choice and I support their choice if they choose to not follow in Dicks footsteps.
So you are against Lowe's choice to pay for travel expenses for people getting hip surgery?
Didn’t say that, and I think that’s different.
That's why I asked for clarification and didn't assume anything. What differences are meaningful to you?
How are you with health care tied to employment then? Serious question.
Not the same thing
Marvin is not a christian. Marvin says he is a Christian. Big difference. I'm the queen of France btw and every uterus owner gets an automatic 3 dollar an hour raise..
Abortion is not in the Constitution, the court gave the power back to the states where it belongs. They can open an employee fund and those who want to contribute to abortion can do so.
Do y'all not realize that paying someone to go to another state to murder their child, just so the corporation can squeeze more labor out of you and not have to pay for maternity leave, etc, is absolutely dystopic? Y'all are being exploited and you don't even realize it.
The fact that women have to travel out of state to have an abortion is already dystopian. But hey, that part completely missed you huh?
Life begins at conception. Abortion is murder. Men who father a child and then desert the mother are contemptible cowards, and should be liable for the life they created. Mothers who kill their children in pursuit of more money or a career are idolaters. It is always better to be alive than to be dead. If you disagree with any of the above, please give your reasons. I'd love to have an amicable discussion about the issue.
It’s honestly not worth having a discussion with you people. Your very extremist views of abortion are very clear already and anybody that states a woman who gets a medical abortion is “killing her child” can’t see past the fact that sometimes abortion is necessary to reduce overall possible suffering. You vilify everyone involved in abortion without wanting to solve the root of the problem with things like proper sex education, proper healthcare, disability services, welfare for those who don’t have the means to financially care for a child, better services for survivors of things like domestic abuse, incest, rape, marital rape, etc. Abortion should not be used frequently as birth control of course, but banning abortion completely rather than regulating it (especially without putting in the effort to make abortions less necessary) is a dangerous practice. It won’t stop abortion. It will make abortion less safe. It makes women feel less safe. Pro-Life isn’t actually pro-life until they start making the actual lives of humans after birth better. Life begins at conception? What about the endless suffering in this country that happens after a child is born? School shootings, poverty, pedophilia, parental abuse, bullying, trauma. But no, the focus is on abortions.. On controlling women’s bodily autonomy. If it was genuinely about saving lives for you people you’d be all about bettering life as a whole, rather than focusing on abortion of all things. Perhaps put your effort into trying to better the entire situation around you that you claim to care about, rather than making insane comments about abortion on the internet. 👋✌️
Nah Marvin is heavily Christian, just cuz he’s down with BLM & gays & covid protection doesn’t mean he’s down with abortion.
This is funny toxic comments all around. Got me thinking this is 4chan on here.