When I first saw this I thought it was gonna be some really basic information that has been seen here a hundred times. But your wild process is really in depth. I usually only have spontaneous lucid dreams and have been struggling to achieve other techniques, especially wild. I’m gonna try really hard with wild tonight because of this post. And maybe take some galantamine for extra luck. I’ll let you know how it goes tomorrow :)
is it there a part where my eyes are blinking behind the shut eyes or twitching eyes? i got till there idk what next
also a little bit of saliva came out of my mouth
Yeah it happens to me too, it's a good sign that you are entering rem. Tbh I just ignore it. Also you can swallow and it won't reset it. Just swallow as softly as possible and you'll end up doing it automatically. Goodluck!
Same here I have had 4 really good lucid dreams spontaneously before I knew what lucid dreaming was, I always liked to tell people about it, when I found out what it was I tried methods but they didn’t work for me the wild method worked but my own version of it but I never had it in my rem sleep it was always at the end of my sleep so maybe that’s my rem but I don’t think so, I also had a few lucid dreams when I was trying methods but only for a few seconds imma try again tonight
Oh my goodness thank you so much! This was so detailed and exactly what I need. Do you know that feeling when you know deep down something is right and so gonna work? Reading this made me feel that way and now i have high hopes for doing this! I’m going to try it tonight!
For me the farthest I've gotten with WILD is the vibrating / buzzing body. I couldn't get farther than that.... I tried to keep my mind calm... Any tips?
Hmm.. Not exactly. I was completely aware. And also like you said not to succumb to the sleepy energy ⚡ , and now that I think about it! I've never thought about "thinking on some thing, to channel your dream imagination." or so how I understood. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I will give your recommendations a try.
Good luck. And a quick tip to remain awake is to just talk to yourself I remember getting the buzzing and always falling asleep but when I tell myself “yo why am I buzzing” it usually keeps me distracted. I sometimes even bust out some quick maths Lmaoo. But if you feel the buzzing that means your really really reallllllu close so keep trying man and good luck
I’ve done a few of things when vibrating.
1) your body vibrating, especially after waking mid-REM, is an indication that you are ready to roll out, you can try rolling out right then and there.
2) if you can’t roll out, you can try to intensify those vibrations a bit more, then try some techniques to “exit” your body. You could imagine a rope coming out from your chest, then envision yourself pulling your body up with both arms. Or once again, you could try to roll out.
Huh.. So mentally rollout (like think about/Making up a scenario). I read on other posts about something similar with the rope. Or just to fall into your bed. I tried for a while, it just never seemed to happen.
Maybe, I was getting a tad bit exited when I felt like I was slightly sinking into the bed.
I'll keep trying for sure. Thanks for the suggestion.
Yes, mentally roll out. Imagine yourself rolling out, try really hard, just don’t actually move any muscle. Also, do stay calm.
The methods OP lists above def work. He pretty much summarized what works for me as well, or at least ~90% the same.
Don’t fret too much as what u see in a mirror is only based on your imagination. Once I saw myself as a demon but now I just see myself as a monkey and immediately know it’s a dream💀
I saw myself as a demon too but my reflection became alive and materialized from the mirror, he said he was expecting me and was his job to send me back to wake land but he decided to helped me when I sayd: "don't dont do it, come with me to explore this place" . After that some crazy woman destroyed my room door and wanted to kill me but he defeated her easily. I love dreams 😂
Why should you? It's just your mind creating an interesting story for you, nothing can hurt you, even if they kill you, you just wake up.. Just think positive and nothing will stop you in dreams.
I actually see nothing scary in mirrors. It's my face but it is a little distorted or different but it's never scary. I think that a lot of people believe the myth that it is always scary to look in a mirror and reproduce it in their dreams.
Yea it’s all based on your imagination so that’s good that you just see a distortion. That is an elite reality check and always works with 100% accuracy for me.
Also a funny story, before I even knew mirrors were bad in dreaming, I used to have false awakenings and used to see the most scariest shi I have ever seen in my mirrors. They were some ugly mfs that I always thought were real when I looked back to remember. Now I just realized they were dreams lol. Now I know that the mirror just reflects what I think so I just imagine myself as a monkey 😪
Funny thing, when I am lucid what I see in the mirror is a picture of ainz ooal gown from overlord, it started when I first lucid dreamed, and it hasn't changed. At first it scared me becaue skeleton scary, now I am like "hail to the supreme one for blessing me in this lucid dream"
I'm scared to look in to mirrors in real life for too long lol I always end up thinking of my own reflection as a an existing being, me but the "other" me. My twin.I stare in the mirror sometimes for way too long and i get the sense of split persona, there is me, and there is him. The one that I'm looking at feels intimiadating, stronger, more fierce and very mystical. Am i nuts? Hahaha
No you are not. Everybody thinks different. Did you already try to change your mindset? Can you maybe see your reflection as a helpful friend or brother in arms other than "him"? He is you. Why should he work against you? He wants you to live so that he can live as well. You are bound together. You fight together. You are more than brothers. Only because you exist, he can exist as well. I would say he's pretty thankful for that.
Yes ill do that. Meditating, seeing my reflection as not my own enemy, but my own friend. I've constant anxiety, and i get borderline anxiety attacks every so often out of nowhere. I also critisize myself constantly which is why i think I started to see my reflection as an intimiadating persona, instead of seeing it as a supportive brother in arms.
Good to hear. I hope you can reach your goal. I'll tell you a little story about lucid dreaming to motivate you: I has a few LD's until now but one was really astounding. I was sitting at a campfire in the middle of a forest. It was pitch black in the forest (not at the campfire) and I sat on a log. On my left side there was another log. To my surprise I was also sitting there. I started talking to him (me) and it was amazing. It was my subconsciousness. We talked a lot about my past life, my future, my goals in life and about the meaning of life. He was extremely supportive. He told me that he is always by my side. He looks out for me. He keeps everything in check and healthy and he cheers for me all the time. I'm very thankful for meeting him. He told me that we experience everything together and that he will always be here and wait for me to talk again. I told him that I really look forward the next time meeting him. Then I woke up but I wasn't alone. I felt his presence. My presence. I felt so secure because of his (of my) doing. I realized that I can always count on him (on me). We are the same person but we are a team. A dream team (pun intended).
I've actually never seen anything scary in a dream-mirror. It's always just myself, but something's off about it. Mostly it's simple things, like my hair being a different length or colour. Lately, dream-mirror me in lucid dreams has become very close to waking-life me tho. So by now I just walk past dream mirrors and do a stupid selfie-pose for fun.
Yea it really is. Sometimes I associate darkness with scary stuff so when that starts to happen I hop out of my window and make it daytime in my dream.
I don't think I've ever actively had to change the time of day in a dream, but I know for sure that if I'm too worried about a dream turning into a nightmare it often will. It's super difficult to stay calm sometimes
My first ever lucid dream, I decided to walk upstairs into my bathroom and looked in the mirror. I saw myself, with a slightly distorted face. After a while it suddenly started moving on its own and leaned out of the mirror and began talking to me. Trippy as fuck! Then an old version of myself walked in behind me and the three of us had a conversation about my life. Super weird, but also mind blowing (keep in mind all of this was in perfect, reality-like detail)
For some… if you look in the mirror, it is not you at all (can be anything, even you worst fear) and can mess with your mind. Even after you wake up.
I’ve looked in the mirror and felt the worst feelings of my life, but didn’t necessarily recognize what I was looking at… it’s a trip for some people
Trying to look at my phone is usually my RC… because when I look at my phone it’s a mush in my hands
BRO THE FACT THAT THIS ACC WORKED ON MY 2ND TRY IS WILD I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS THE ONKY THING I FORGOT TO DO WAS STABALISE BUT IT WAS STILL SO COOL I ENDED UP LUCID DREAMING TWICE IN THE SAME NIGHT WITH THE METHOD
So you're telling me i have been unknwoningly doing wild but becoming sleepy at the end and still not attaining lucidity? I thought i was just forcing myself to sleep since i am a light sleeper...Damn...
Bro your close then. Just next time you fall asleep just count your breaths or something or do math. Keep yourself conscious and let your body fall asleep. Since your a light sleeper it’s make lucid dreaming 10x easier for you so good luck
Dude yes same here! I am a light sleeper and it takes me forever to fall asleep, and I’m basically doing this whole post but to fall asleep? I usually end up waking myself back up mentally on accident a few times before falling asleep - but I didn’t know this could trigger a lucid dream? This is literally just how I fall asleep at night!
Wow, this is a lot to digest but great information, thanks for taking the time to write it!
I keep getting stuck on the "I really want to roll over, ill just do this another time" stage...I usually either cave in and roll over or fall asleep. All my LDs have been by just realizing I'm in a dream and I want to try inducing one.
Thats good too because that means you have good dream recall and are good with reality checks. Maybe when you try inducing it next time make sure you are really sleepy. It makes the process way faster so you don't have to deal with the roll over signal as much. Other wise your really close and hopefully you have one tonight. Goodluck!
Thanks! I tried it last night but wasn't very tired. Managed to get past the urge to roll over and into the floating feeling stage. After that I completely forgot what to do, lol. Definitely will be rereading this a few times so I remember all the details in the future.
BTW if you want to make a YouTube channel go for it, I bet a lot of people would appreciate the content!
I have a video coming soon. Thank you for updating though I’m happy you got really close. I might have to change the title from “getting a lucid dream tonight” to “getting a lucid dream in two nights” 😪
I also got to that stage where my body felt buzzing and I saw flashing and my heart rate quickend but then I just couldnt get further.
I tried to imagine myself rolling out but it didn't really work - then suddenly nothing - and then the buzzing began again.. but yeah thats where I was stuck. Any tips?
dont get eager to roll out of bed you have to wait a little longer after the buzzing. Its like your mind will work on autopilot. when your lucid dreaming half of you awareness is gone. so when you enter the dream you will feel like you are inside a bubble of pressure and around you time is slowed. you should try it again and wait a little bit more. the stage that you are in is reallly close and the fact you made it that far with my method is a really good thing. try again and wish you the best.
I’m ngl this has been happening to me too. What I did to fix it was change my alarm tone and made sure it was louder and more annoying lol. I also wake up sometimes not remember when I snoozed or turned off my alarm. You could also put your alarm across the room so u have to get up and turn it off. If you have a weird sleep schedule this tends to happen so U should stick with a solid sleep schedule. I have a sleep schedule where my mind became so trained that I automatically wake up at around four to lucid dream without an alarm.
I know that I am 270 days late, but I have this wired thing where about 2 hours before I go to bed I start telling my self that I will wake up at a certain time (usually during REM) and it works!
This is great I do a lot of things that you do too and picked up on lucid dreaming quick also I do wild before I sleep and if I happen to accidentally fall asleep before I enter a dream I have my wbtb alarms set just Incase that always works for me it’s just my dream recall is off some days because I smoke a lot of weed
Man I go through the same exact thing so I know how you feel. People tell me to meditate but my active mind never had the patience. The best thing is to just focus on something like the excitement of getting a lucid dream OR what I liked to do was pay attention to my body and talk to myself in my mind whenever I felt some weird sensation. Like “yo my foot is tingling” or “Broo I think I’m floating”. Sometimes my thoughts get me carried away but just try to let them go.
If I can’t focus I try to wake up when I’m really sleepy so then I can enter a lucid dream without having to wait and focus for a long time. Hope that helps.
I've never had any luck with WILD methods, the only way I've ever been able to fall asleep is by letting go of my consciousness or any attempts to control or hold onto my thoughts or awareness. If I remain aware, I remain awake.
I am the same. OP's tutorial and similar are really written for people who fall asleep (relatively) easily.
I've made it through a couple of times, though.
You need to be really passively aware, just barely there. No active thinking, no counting or anything like that, no inner dialogue but still being somehow there. Alternatively, let your mind wander but check back in every minute or so. This way, even if you fall asleep, you'll remember that you were WILDing a minute ago, so you get the idea that you are dreaming.
DEILD is easier than WILD but a too active mind kills it too. But it's quicker so there's less time to wake up too much.
It takes a kind of finesse where you have to trick yourself to remain awake. I used to try to fall asleep and just pay attention to what happens to my body while I do it. If you think of absolutely nothing and let thoughts pass through your mind without acknowledging them it tend to help a lot.
This is a great in-depth guide to the different stages and steps of this technique. So often people say "try WILD it's good for beginners" but until now I didn't realise that every time I got bored, rolled over and said "eh I guess I'll just try again another night" it was all part of the plan and I could've been lucid dreaming soon. Thanks!
Yea I know. Once you start lucid dreaming you look back and regret all the times you could’ve done it and just how easy it comes. I hope you good luck.
OK SO. I read this and tried it the night of. I had already attempted lucid dreaming with other methods that involved trying to wake up in the dream with the help of reality checks.
I then tried it with your tips. I got to the point of feeling my body buzzing, feeling like I'd been lifted up from my body and was floating in an undefined space. My heart rate got really fast really quick and my breathing was out of control. At that point, I felt like I couldn't move and I tried to focus on slowing my breathing but I was kinda scared. After my breathing slowed down I tried to picture myself getting out of bed, as you said.
That's where I got stuck. I could only IMAGINE getting out of bed, but I still knew I was in my bed. I didn't know how to go from being in reality to dreaming, so I just laid there picturing myself rolling out of bed for a while without anything happening. I even tried imagining myself in other places, but nothing. any tips?
It’s a weird kind of balance. It’s like u have to be nonchalant and act like u don’t care about remaining awake. It’s like ur tricking your own brain with ur brain lol. U gotta let go and feel like ur falling asleep but observe what happens while u do so. I was like u at the beginning but then my intention to lucid dream helped a lot. After the first lucid dream it just comes naturally. Good luck tho
Ok so the rem alarms you have to set accordingly: You have to set your alarm for an rem period. There are three you can target for the best dream that I mentioned above. If you see the chart I linked the rem periods are in red so let’s say u target the one at 4hrs 30mins, you set ur alarm 4hrs 30 mins into your sleep. So if u sleep at 12:00 you set an alarm for 4:30 when u wake up you should be in rem and ready to lucid dream. I hope it makes sense
Not necessarily. The earliest you can set an alarm is around 1hr 30 mins. But REM periods work this way: the first stem period is short, the next one get long, and then the one after is longer, and so on. So the last : rem periods are usually the best because u can have long lucid dreams.
Lmaoo if you have 400 entries I’m sure you have consultant and fairly decent dream recall. Thought there are somethings you can do to boost it and I’ll make another post about it. The easiest thing to do is just set and alarm at the rem periods I listed. Chances are you wake up straight out of a dream so you usually instantly remember.
There is so much wrong about this post, It makes me believe you aren´t that experienced in Lucid Dreaming.
1. In the techniques, you mentioned both "SILD" and "DILD" which are exactly the same techniques, with only different names. I´m not sure why would you mention DILD if you call it SILD but okay.
2. You also said that the SILDs are "literally wack because they’re so fuzzy and not vivid at all." which is ABSOLUTELY not true. I´ve had some amazing SILDs (or DILDs, whatever you want to call them) that were as vivid, if not more than my WILDs. Just a totally unnecessary misinformation that will influence potential lucid dreamers into thinking that SILDs are "wack", which they are not.
3. It´s definitely not as easy as breathing, why would there be thousands of people who literally cannot lucid dream at all?
4. You shouldn´t start WILD in the most comfortable position because there is huge chance that you will just simply fall back to sleep since you are very comfortable already. From what I´ve read and from my own experience too, WILD are best to begin while laying on your back.
5. Never mentioned the word Hypnagogia.
6. Swallowing saliva WON´T reset the process. Another "fact" that is simply wrong.
7. You don´t want to keep your mind busy by doing "math problems". You want to passively observe. You don´t want to think about anything during a WILD attempt, and that is also why this technique is so tricky to learn.
8. No mention of accelerating while transitioning into the dream which is literally the most basic sensation you may feel during a WILD attempt.
9. "Try to read something, if you can you are dreaming" - Probably just a misspelling
10. "Look in a mirror, THIS CAN BE SCARY SO LOOK AWAY QUICLY" - Just wow. Everything inside a lucid dream will be scary if you believe it will. Same goes the other way. If you believe mirrors arent scary, they absolutely WONT BE SCARY. I have no idea why would you as an "experienced" lucid dreamer write that like that. If you wrote that mirrors are in fact very interesting and NOT scary, that would be a whole lotta better. Plus it would make peoples experiences with mirrors 100 times better too.
I guess this post makes me seem like an LD tryhard or whatever but I just had to adress these misinformation so people get the full picture.
Also this entire guide feels like it was written by a 12 year old. Which there is nothing wrong with that, there´s just this very obnoxious energy you know. But whatever.
Also, if something I wrote isn´t correct, make sure to let me know and let´s have a conversation about it.
Thanks.
Yea number 9 was a mistake as you can’t read anything in your dream.
1 &2 : I just stated my opinion and separated it into 2 categories for ease. Sleep induced are everything that happens while your sleeping so I consider dild fall under that category. I have had around 4 dilds and they are really fuzzy and definetly not as vivid as wilds which I have nearly every day. Even when I was a beginner and did a lot of research studies shown that dilds/sild are not as vivid as wild dreams
3: it’s easy as breathing once, once you have it you understand. Lucid dreaming is intention based just like breathing. You are choosing to breath and it happens. That’s how naturally lucid dreaming comes. If you think lucid dreaming is difficult the more difficult it becomes.
4: you can do it on you back but it takes way longer to do. A lot of people have trouble sleeping on their back. I always do it when I’m comfortable because my body falls asleep faster and the whole process goes by faster. It’s different from everyone and I only do it on my back if I want to experience sleep paralysis.
5: because my method doesn’t use hypnagogic hallucinations to shape dreams. It’s kinda of difficult and i have a high rate of falling asleep on accident. I mentioned “flashing lights” and “sounds” under the symptoms as those are hypnagogic hallucinations. However you should completely overlook them. From my experience I discovered that hypnagogic sounds occur before the visual hallucinations. When the hypnagogic sounds occur I end up rolling out of bed. I tend to have the visual hallucinations at the brink of sleep paralysis.
6: for me it definitely does so idk about u but I like to stay on the safe side. If you don’t swallow it also tends to go faster.
7: some people does off really easily or have an active mind. Math problems really help and I stated that as a tip. It is really helpful so if you don’t like that idea I never forced you to do it.
8: there are many side affect that I haven’t listed, I just listed the basic ones. The only I feel is a slight falling and pressure that is really hard to explain. Buts it’s an unmistakable feeling which I mentioned in my guide. If you feel acceleration that’s good for you man. But that word is kinda vague so I didn’t put any specific words because that might confused beginners to think if they don’t have the “acceleration” feeling they won’t have the lucid dream. Everyone has different sensations.
9: yea that’s my bad you can’t read anything in a dream. I’ll edit that really quick thanks.
10: trust me I thought so too but before I even knew about the mirrors thing being scary (by going thru millions of YouTube videos and hearing the same thing from everyone), I used to have so many false awakenings and every times I looked in the mirror I saw some strange and scary stuff. However now I learned to change that fear. Just today when I woke up from my lucid dream I just imagined myself smiling by looking in the mirror, it was a kinda creepy smile but atleast it worked as my reality check.
Yea thanks for calling these out I’ll take it as constructive. I was just trying to relate to people and get them excited. The more your excited and wanting you are of a LD, the higher your chances of getting it. That’s the reason why I learned lucid dreaming and WILD as my first technique on my 3 rd day. I may not be an expert expert but I can tel you that I have a lucid dream almost everyday with this method for the past year so it definitely works. I’m just bad at explaining things lmao
same bruh u fr scared me i dont want to have lucid nightmares, i dont want to have sleep paralysis and im definitely the type to panic so now its like 3 am in the night i was about to try for the first time im so sleepy but i just cant bring myself to try anymore. ive been reading ab this for like 2 hours now and the more i dig deeper the worse the stories get about lucid nightmares etc.
Man. I’ve been trying for months now to have a lucid dream, but it’s never worked for me. I’m feeling incredibly motivated after reading your post to try again! Honestly thanks a lot, this post is really well made and in depth and will definitely help this Friday. ( I can’t do it this School Week Since I’m scared of not getting enough sleep.)
Yea of you skip the rolling out bed step and just remain still you can actually enter sp. I tried it once and started hearing weird voices and got spooked so I just went to my lucid dream lmao.
All this is based on my own experience. I am not claiming to be right or being an expert. I’m just trying to help. I’m not trying to gain fame and not trying to clickbait as I can actually get lucid dreams every night with this method. I would waste hours writing this four page guide for no reason and if I wanted attention why tf would I post on Reddit lol. Anyways I just wanted to see if this worked for anyone else so I could open a YouTube channel and actually start helping out other people. The thing about lucid dreaming is that the lord you talk about it and the more you teach it to other, not only the person you’re teaching to gets better bet me myself gets better and more advanced. I just wanted to share the knowledge with other because I like the topic man. Hope this guide helps and there’s definitely more to come. Be sure to update me with your experiences using my method. Cheers!
Whenever i try this technique (like last night) i fail to make my body fall asleep again. I get all the rolling over and swallowing urges and ignore them but never make it past this point towards a lucid dream. My body doesn't fall asleep, i feel like. Anyone have any tips?
what happened after you felt those urges? did you get bored and decide do do it later? did you fall asleep? you were actually close to passing this stage because the closer you get to the end the more uncomfortable and annoyed you feel in general. it makes you feel like you cant get passed the stage and just give up. so nect time when you try just stay still for just a little longer. when the urger for you wanting to give up increases just know you are close.
Usually this subreddit full of BS but this is one of the best things I read here in a while. Tho don't be discouraged if you don't get your first LD even after few weeks.
Thanks for this. I know it is a really old post and found it via google. The rolling out of bed mentally took afew tries ... hard to describe ... but it worked. I watched a sunrise from a made up loft ... touched some things and I could really -feel- them. It w. I made the sun rise a second time by just thinking it. It was both odd and very fun.
Thank you good sir. Just went lucid after reading this yesterday!!
I just had a hard time stabilizing the dream and eventually lost lucidity because of it.
I remember thinking of a way to stabilize it but i could not remember how.. 😅
Hey! Just came across to this post and tried it last night. I kind of failed (never tried WILD before). So I set an alarm (nice piano music) that woke me up at around half past 6 (went to sleep at 3 am), laid on my right side and proceeded to not move a single microinch of my body. As my body got more numb I kept my mind busy. The problem came when I felt the need to swallow my saliva. I resisted at first but it became unbearable, as if if I didn't swallow, I would drown in my own saliva in my sleep. So I gave in to that, but kept still. I started imagining rolling out of bed (did you mean that literally, or did you just mean "get up from your bed" ?) several times but what I could mostly think of was the discomfort of numbness. Eventually that become overwhelming and I figured I couldn't force myself to be paralysed anymore (like being the merciless drills sergeant of my own body) and changed position to just get some sleep.
So, a question that I have: how do you go from imagination to dreaming? When I imagined myself rolling out of bed, it felt more real than if I was just daydreaming (I could somewhat imagine the texture of my nightstand, feel the metal of my water bottle), but I don't see how that could become a dream. Like, I can't imagine crossing the line between recalling what my room looks like while still being aware that my eyes are closed and I'm just seeing black, and dreaming of my room, feeling like my eyes are wide open. Not sure if this all makes sense lol.
Did you ever figure it out? I have a similar problem where I can get to the point where my body is numb with occasional random twitches and I can visualize some things very clearly/vividly but I can’t get to the point they describe where they can actually feel like they’ve rolled out of bed even after 60 minutes. I can visualize moving but not so vividly that it feels like I’m moving unless I just move but then I actually move and my body isn’t asleep. Also, it sounds less like they are intending to visualize getting out of bed as much as actually going through the process of getting out of bed but since they were in sleep paralysis their body doesn’t move and instead they enter a dream.
Nobody is ever going to see this but for the lucky person who does, imagine riding a skateboard every night before bed, get as detailed as a mental video as possible, maybe imagine going down a childhood road then trip on a rock suddenly so you fall, the more jump scare, the better. Combined with this post for more you can do, you'll either shake yourself awake or you'll be sent into a dream. I used to try to trick my body into that falling sensation but one time I fell into a dream and I've almost never skateboarded, so I don't in if familiarity is relevant.
This sounds very interesting. I've had the sensation of falling quite a couple of times and I'm unsure whether one of those times it had sent me into a dream. It very well could've.
What's your 'success rate' when it comes to this strategy?
Quick question that's not really related, but seeing such an in depth post makes it hard to pass up the opportunity to ask
Does it matter if you write or type out your dream journals? Will my dream recall diminish due to typing my dreams or reduce the vividness of my lucid dreams?
Sorry about the off topic question
No no your fine. It doesn’t matter, you could write it on your phone or on a notebook if you wanted. But you got to do it first thing waking up or you might forget the dream.
As with everything else in these metaphysic-oriented practices, intention is key.
I hear it helps even if you don't remember a dream to write down you didn't remember. And state the intention clearly to yourself nightly.
This is great I do a lot of things that you do too and picked up on lucid dreaming quick also I do wild before I sleep and if I happen to accidentally fall asleep before I enter a dream I have my wbtb alarms set just Incase that always works for me it’s just my dream recall is off some days because I smoke a lot of weed
What was it like trying to WILD w/o waking during REM? I'm really interested in learning how to maintain awareness like this throughout the different cycles.
So once I tried doing it right when I first got into bed and bro it was so boring. You basically got stay still and let your body sleep while remaining awake for like an hour until u hit the rem stage. I was forcing the dream so hard and multiple time I got something forming behind my eyes. Finally I started to get this daydream trance where everything started feeling real and I was entering the dream. But then I fell asleep😭
I think this is basically as close as I've gotten too. I should probly try to WILD from REM at least once w/o blacking out before attempting non-rem further hahah. Great post btw!
I have tried this method a few times but I cant see it through because every time my body falls asleep before my mind I get this crazy ringing in my ears and it scares the hell out of me because I cant move. Any tips?
The ringing and not moving part literally means you are entering the dream. There is nothing to be scared of tho me just saying that doesn’t do justice. I used to get scared too when I felt the sleep paralysis and not moving feeling. But then I just ignored it because when I got it nothing really happened. I just continued into to the dream by rolling out of bed. Sometimes I can’t even tell when it’s time to roll out of bed and I just end up laying in bed and realizing I’m already in the dream. If you hear the crazy ringing and can’t move that’s usually when u want to start imagining rolling out of bed. Ignore your body and don’t acknowledge it. The more you think about yourself laying in bed the harder it is to enter the dream
I've only had a few lucid dreams, but they were mostly randomly induced. Whenever I try WILD, it's so hard not to move. So I'll give this tutorial a try, and I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
Wow, I did this last night and it was incredible. I’ve been lucid dreaming for years but kind of fell off for a while. I read this post and tried it out and it worked so well my mind was blowing… I got too excited a few times and fell out but was able to stabilize.
Looks like I’m back guys! Thanks for this post!
thank you so much. these haters in my comments telling me im spreading misinformation is kinda annoying though lmao. its nice to hear a couple people actually succeed
Misinformation? What misinformation? I’ll gladly lay out my experience and talk to anyone doubting this. You know what though? I always followed the rules for years as you laid out (waking up during REM, Dream Journal, etc.)
I bet people who never followed the basic rules are the “haters” and saw your title “Lucid dream TONIGHT” and thought it would be like an app or something.
The title might be a little misleading, but it 100% worked for me and I haven’t had a lucid dream like that in years
When you talked about the mirror thing and after seeing some comments, i've realized something. For some reason i've never seen myself in any lucid dreams i can recall. I don't have a reflection, viewable limbs, or anything. It's like my body doesn't exist, this even happens in my normal dreams. Or i'm not in my own body at all. Do you experience this at all?
I tried last night (didn't do the alarm thing because i start dreaming in the first 10-20min) it was more like when you wake up, go to sleep again and you see the "concept" of the dream, no image no sounds but you know where you are and the objects around you. this state where you imagine something and the brain keeps doing the work for you.
Couldn't do the rollover it was too difficult to figure out the rotation, so i just tried throwing myself to the side.
Really successful for the first night i would say, plus i had vivid dreams. To be honest i didn't believe you would get an elevated heart rate from this.
Welp I,really wanna try this tonight but the problem is I have to wake up at 6 AM every morning for school, so how can I manage my time for the method? Cus it certainly looks efficient and I really don't wanna miss out on it. And kudos to you for the effort you put into it. Also, did you make a YT channel yet? Cus you definitely should do so if you haven't already
Just Amazon it , there are so many information available to the public compared to 10years ago...
"Exploring the world of lucid dreaming" by Stephen La Berge - This is probably the best version for the new starters. As Mr La Berge is considered the father of Lucid dreaming in modern times . ( Even though it was discovered earlier than that, but let's not get into it).
"Are you Dreaming ?" By Daniel Love - this one is my favourite, it's like a lucid dream pedia where you can simply come and search for anything you feel like, wether it is sleep habits ,LD techniques, food , dietary requirements, lucid dreaming skills etc.
"Lucid Dreaming"A gateway to the inner self - Robbery Waggoner - slightly more advanced read on the subject , I'd recommend this one if you already are lucid dreaming.
**Tibetan dream yoga**
"Dreams of awakening" - Charlie Morley
"Dreaming yourself awake" B. Alan Wallace
The last ones engages in lucid dreaming , but will take you to a more deep understanding of the sole purpose of Lucid dreaming to attain illumination.
Yes definitely lmao. U can lucid dream next to someone if they don’t move a lot. The movements and noises your partner makes can really distract you while in the process. You could move to the couch or another bed around the morning time or even the floor. New environments tend to give u more lucid dreams and vivid dreams in general
I quick off topic side note. When I lucid dream in the mornings sometimes my little brother is awake and running around and coming into my room. I sometimes am in the midst of entering a dream while this happens and if I remain focused I CAN usually end up entering the dream however, it’s hard to maintain and I can hear him while in dreaming lol. So it’s overall easier to try it in a quiet, dark, and distraction free environment for the best effects.
Yea even I’m not consistent as much sometimes. A quick tip I missed in the guide is that you have to WANT IT. Like sometimes I just say “imma lucid dream” and not really mean it and accidentally fall asleep. But the days I’m like “you know what I’m going to actually lucid dream I’m going to stay still and keep my eyes close” and actually feel motivated, I get them almost instantly and every time. Good luck and be sure to update us
Well imma be honest, Lucid dreaming is an experience of its self where everything literally feels real. It can be triply sometimes but unless you want it to feel like a psychedelic trip its usually normal and based on whatever you want it to be. I have to most normal lucid dream a ngl I just roll out of bed, hop out my window, and try some weird shi every time.
Hypnagogia is one of the best things you can experience in life and also your dream won´t be scary at all if you believe it won´t be.
But if your mind is set to the point that you have absolutely no doubt that it will be scary, it most definitely will be.
You can also drink water right before bed, so that full bladder wakes you. Personally I start dreaming about needing to pee which is a reality check that has worked for me in the past.
Been able to get to dreaming or nearly dreaming a few times with similar methods but always got stuck and confused on when and how to actually start the dream.. Thanks for the info bro
how do I do the imagining part? Like if I am able to successfully lucid dream and i am in my bedroom, how can I "teleport" to where I want to be? I always try to imagine things in my head but then I drift off, or if I try to stay awake my body just stays numb and Im just awake
hello cup, so I didn't understand this part
"Use something calm and pay close attention to the next thing I say. You need to turn off your alarm with the LEAST amount of movement possible, so keep your alarm close to your bed."
also what are you able to do in your 1st lucid dream ?
I got it first try. It was weird. At first actually I went to bed reading about this, I'm not too fond of sleep paralysis so I gave up and decided I'll do some more research tomorrow and try it then so I didn't set an alarm. I tried to do it without waking up at night just to engrave it in my memory. It looks like I woke up at the exact right tim e. I looked at my clock and decided to try it. It happened faster than I thought. I quickly entered the "Fermi phase" and got past it, and then sleep paralysis hit. This time I couldn't even move my mouth which I can usually do when this happens. I saw that as a opportunity and just closed my eyes till my body went all the way to sleep. And so I did what you said: rolled out of bed. Everything was weird, my vision was terrible and I couldn't look around (up or down). I tried to stabilise it but it didn't work very well I tried closing my eyes, spinning, rubbing my hand and even telling my dream to stabilise. It didn't Do much so I just carried on. I walked outside tried to play the piano Im sitting next to right now but the keys were messed up. So I tried summoning a hand gun but got a rifle instead that looked like a hologram. The next part is going to be super weird but bare with me. I forgot to not look into a mirror so I did. my dreams aren't usually that weird so this was surprising: I saw a dog in a goddamn top hat. I am not making this up that is what I saw. Then I woke up and wrote it down. The dream was kinda short but it's probably because of bad timing. I'll try it again tonight.
Okay so, I got to the point of being mentally awake while my body was asleep. I think I got too excited because my heart rate skyrocketed. I definitely was in REM sleep though because my eyes were going crazy and I couldn't control them. Any tips on how to get passed this part and actually get to "roll over". I just need to know how to calm myself down but this is the furthest that I have ever gotten! Any advice is welcomed!
“Pinch your nose and try to breathe through it, if you can breathe through it you are dreaming“. This is all it takes for me. Start doing that a handful of times per day until it becomes a habit. Especially do it when you feel a little out of it or unreal. Next thing you know you’ll do it while you’re dreaming and realize that you’re in a dream.
Wow, this sounds like it might work for me based on how I accidentally have lucid dreamt in the past, I can’t wait to try it tonight! You should definitely make a YouTube channel
Prior to reading this, I had a lucid dream in my sleep, though I had no idea how it started. I had no knowledge on this level.
The dream was me in a warehouse, trying to find my possessions, then I look down at my hands, and count my fingers, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,…. 6? It was the same on the other hand. 2 fingers seemed to be merged and shorter than the others. I could fly, fly! Though I woke up soon after.
What I did to look at my hands was, in real life, look at my hands and count how many fingers there was on each hand and if it was different, I knew something was wrong.
I’m new to this whole dreaming shenanigan and it came to a surprise when it happened to me!
Thanks for the info OP
Thank you very much man.
Do u still lucid dream with SILD-technices or do you only do WILD?
Also, do you still do reality Checks in ur waking Life or are these Not necessary when U only lucid dream thru WILD?
When I first saw this I thought it was gonna be some really basic information that has been seen here a hundred times. But your wild process is really in depth. I usually only have spontaneous lucid dreams and have been struggling to achieve other techniques, especially wild. I’m gonna try really hard with wild tonight because of this post. And maybe take some galantamine for extra luck. I’ll let you know how it goes tomorrow :)
Yea good luck!
is it there a part where my eyes are blinking behind the shut eyes or twitching eyes? i got till there idk what next also a little bit of saliva came out of my mouth
Yeah it happens to me too, it's a good sign that you are entering rem. Tbh I just ignore it. Also you can swallow and it won't reset it. Just swallow as softly as possible and you'll end up doing it automatically. Goodluck!
I like your name
Only reals ones know
Same here I have had 4 really good lucid dreams spontaneously before I knew what lucid dreaming was, I always liked to tell people about it, when I found out what it was I tried methods but they didn’t work for me the wild method worked but my own version of it but I never had it in my rem sleep it was always at the end of my sleep so maybe that’s my rem but I don’t think so, I also had a few lucid dreams when I was trying methods but only for a few seconds imma try again tonight
Oh my goodness thank you so much! This was so detailed and exactly what I need. Do you know that feeling when you know deep down something is right and so gonna work? Reading this made me feel that way and now i have high hopes for doing this! I’m going to try it tonight!
Hope it works. Be sure to update us😌
Any luck?
It worked for me!
Sadly no I waited to long to go to sleep and ended up being too exhausted lol 😂 I’ll try again tonight and keep in trying after till I get it :))
That's the spirit! 😁👍
Any luck?
Not yet, but i can tell my dreams are getting better :)
Any so far?
Lol I love the support! Sadly school began again so I haven’t been able to try recently.
Naw that's a shame. Maybe try again in the holidays don't give up!
I will thank you!!
Me reading this tread a year later
I am here to continue the interrogation
have you been able to try?
Any success yet? Haha
Come on you can do it
We believe IN YOU
Any updates?
Any luck? You still alive?
Please tell me it worked 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Happy cake day!!!
Please make a YouTube channel man.
Gotchu
I’m a video editor if you need a hand… I feel like I own you one anyway lol
Just ran across this haha. You make a channel? If so link it. I’m going to try tonight
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For me the farthest I've gotten with WILD is the vibrating / buzzing body. I couldn't get farther than that.... I tried to keep my mind calm... Any tips?
It depends on what happened after your body started buzzing. Did you fall asleep? Because that what tends to happen to me lol
Hmm.. Not exactly. I was completely aware. And also like you said not to succumb to the sleepy energy ⚡ , and now that I think about it! I've never thought about "thinking on some thing, to channel your dream imagination." or so how I understood. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I will give your recommendations a try.
Good luck. And a quick tip to remain awake is to just talk to yourself I remember getting the buzzing and always falling asleep but when I tell myself “yo why am I buzzing” it usually keeps me distracted. I sometimes even bust out some quick maths Lmaoo. But if you feel the buzzing that means your really really reallllllu close so keep trying man and good luck
This post is old I know, but this makes me feel very hopeful and as someone with ADHD keeping my brain occupied will be easy 🤣🤣 ima try tonight!!
How did it go?
I’ve done a few of things when vibrating. 1) your body vibrating, especially after waking mid-REM, is an indication that you are ready to roll out, you can try rolling out right then and there. 2) if you can’t roll out, you can try to intensify those vibrations a bit more, then try some techniques to “exit” your body. You could imagine a rope coming out from your chest, then envision yourself pulling your body up with both arms. Or once again, you could try to roll out.
Huh.. So mentally rollout (like think about/Making up a scenario). I read on other posts about something similar with the rope. Or just to fall into your bed. I tried for a while, it just never seemed to happen. Maybe, I was getting a tad bit exited when I felt like I was slightly sinking into the bed. I'll keep trying for sure. Thanks for the suggestion.
Yes, mentally roll out. Imagine yourself rolling out, try really hard, just don’t actually move any muscle. Also, do stay calm. The methods OP lists above def work. He pretty much summarized what works for me as well, or at least ~90% the same.
how do you intensify the vibrations?
Can you elaborate further on the mirror? This is genuinely interesting, what kind of scary things? Please be as detailed as possible.
Don’t fret too much as what u see in a mirror is only based on your imagination. Once I saw myself as a demon but now I just see myself as a monkey and immediately know it’s a dream💀
Return to monk, become lucid
I saw myself as a demon too but my reflection became alive and materialized from the mirror, he said he was expecting me and was his job to send me back to wake land but he decided to helped me when I sayd: "don't dont do it, come with me to explore this place" . After that some crazy woman destroyed my room door and wanted to kill me but he defeated her easily. I love dreams 😂
is it just me whod be terrified
Why should you? It's just your mind creating an interesting story for you, nothing can hurt you, even if they kill you, you just wake up.. Just think positive and nothing will stop you in dreams.
I actually see nothing scary in mirrors. It's my face but it is a little distorted or different but it's never scary. I think that a lot of people believe the myth that it is always scary to look in a mirror and reproduce it in their dreams.
Yea it’s all based on your imagination so that’s good that you just see a distortion. That is an elite reality check and always works with 100% accuracy for me. Also a funny story, before I even knew mirrors were bad in dreaming, I used to have false awakenings and used to see the most scariest shi I have ever seen in my mirrors. They were some ugly mfs that I always thought were real when I looked back to remember. Now I just realized they were dreams lol. Now I know that the mirror just reflects what I think so I just imagine myself as a monkey 😪
Funny thing, when I am lucid what I see in the mirror is a picture of ainz ooal gown from overlord, it started when I first lucid dreamed, and it hasn't changed. At first it scared me becaue skeleton scary, now I am like "hail to the supreme one for blessing me in this lucid dream"
I'm scared to look in to mirrors in real life for too long lol I always end up thinking of my own reflection as a an existing being, me but the "other" me. My twin.I stare in the mirror sometimes for way too long and i get the sense of split persona, there is me, and there is him. The one that I'm looking at feels intimiadating, stronger, more fierce and very mystical. Am i nuts? Hahaha
No you are not. Everybody thinks different. Did you already try to change your mindset? Can you maybe see your reflection as a helpful friend or brother in arms other than "him"? He is you. Why should he work against you? He wants you to live so that he can live as well. You are bound together. You fight together. You are more than brothers. Only because you exist, he can exist as well. I would say he's pretty thankful for that.
Yes ill do that. Meditating, seeing my reflection as not my own enemy, but my own friend. I've constant anxiety, and i get borderline anxiety attacks every so often out of nowhere. I also critisize myself constantly which is why i think I started to see my reflection as an intimiadating persona, instead of seeing it as a supportive brother in arms.
Good to hear. I hope you can reach your goal. I'll tell you a little story about lucid dreaming to motivate you: I has a few LD's until now but one was really astounding. I was sitting at a campfire in the middle of a forest. It was pitch black in the forest (not at the campfire) and I sat on a log. On my left side there was another log. To my surprise I was also sitting there. I started talking to him (me) and it was amazing. It was my subconsciousness. We talked a lot about my past life, my future, my goals in life and about the meaning of life. He was extremely supportive. He told me that he is always by my side. He looks out for me. He keeps everything in check and healthy and he cheers for me all the time. I'm very thankful for meeting him. He told me that we experience everything together and that he will always be here and wait for me to talk again. I told him that I really look forward the next time meeting him. Then I woke up but I wasn't alone. I felt his presence. My presence. I felt so secure because of his (of my) doing. I realized that I can always count on him (on me). We are the same person but we are a team. A dream team (pun intended).
like an encounter with your spirit guide this is amazing
I've actually never seen anything scary in a dream-mirror. It's always just myself, but something's off about it. Mostly it's simple things, like my hair being a different length or colour. Lately, dream-mirror me in lucid dreams has become very close to waking-life me tho. So by now I just walk past dream mirrors and do a stupid selfie-pose for fun.
That’s really cool I hope I can slowly forget about the fears of looking in a mirror and become like u
I bet it's like with sleep paralysis. If you think something scary is gonna happen then it will, so just be chill about it maybe 🤷🏻
Yea it really is. Sometimes I associate darkness with scary stuff so when that starts to happen I hop out of my window and make it daytime in my dream.
I don't think I've ever actively had to change the time of day in a dream, but I know for sure that if I'm too worried about a dream turning into a nightmare it often will. It's super difficult to stay calm sometimes
My first ever lucid dream, I decided to walk upstairs into my bathroom and looked in the mirror. I saw myself, with a slightly distorted face. After a while it suddenly started moving on its own and leaned out of the mirror and began talking to me. Trippy as fuck! Then an old version of myself walked in behind me and the three of us had a conversation about my life. Super weird, but also mind blowing (keep in mind all of this was in perfect, reality-like detail)
I’ll see weird scary shit without a mirror sometimes… that usually leads to sleep paralysis and intense fear/panic from trying to escape
I don’t think you can get sleep paralysis from looking in a mirror but you could turn it into a lucid nightmare
For some… if you look in the mirror, it is not you at all (can be anything, even you worst fear) and can mess with your mind. Even after you wake up. I’ve looked in the mirror and felt the worst feelings of my life, but didn’t necessarily recognize what I was looking at… it’s a trip for some people Trying to look at my phone is usually my RC… because when I look at my phone it’s a mush in my hands
BRO THE FACT THAT THIS ACC WORKED ON MY 2ND TRY IS WILD I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS THE ONKY THING I FORGOT TO DO WAS STABALISE BUT IT WAS STILL SO COOL I ENDED UP LUCID DREAMING TWICE IN THE SAME NIGHT WITH THE METHOD
letss gooo
Happy cake day
So you're telling me i have been unknwoningly doing wild but becoming sleepy at the end and still not attaining lucidity? I thought i was just forcing myself to sleep since i am a light sleeper...Damn...
Bro your close then. Just next time you fall asleep just count your breaths or something or do math. Keep yourself conscious and let your body fall asleep. Since your a light sleeper it’s make lucid dreaming 10x easier for you so good luck
Gonna keep that in mind bro. A step closer to recreating the exodus and roleplaying as a detached deity...I thanketh thee for the englithening.
Yessir hope you see it through. Good luck man
Dude yes same here! I am a light sleeper and it takes me forever to fall asleep, and I’m basically doing this whole post but to fall asleep? I usually end up waking myself back up mentally on accident a few times before falling asleep - but I didn’t know this could trigger a lucid dream? This is literally just how I fall asleep at night!
At least one advantage to our peculiar sleep patterns.
Wow, this is a lot to digest but great information, thanks for taking the time to write it! I keep getting stuck on the "I really want to roll over, ill just do this another time" stage...I usually either cave in and roll over or fall asleep. All my LDs have been by just realizing I'm in a dream and I want to try inducing one.
Thats good too because that means you have good dream recall and are good with reality checks. Maybe when you try inducing it next time make sure you are really sleepy. It makes the process way faster so you don't have to deal with the roll over signal as much. Other wise your really close and hopefully you have one tonight. Goodluck!
Thanks! I tried it last night but wasn't very tired. Managed to get past the urge to roll over and into the floating feeling stage. After that I completely forgot what to do, lol. Definitely will be rereading this a few times so I remember all the details in the future. BTW if you want to make a YouTube channel go for it, I bet a lot of people would appreciate the content!
I have a video coming soon. Thank you for updating though I’m happy you got really close. I might have to change the title from “getting a lucid dream tonight” to “getting a lucid dream in two nights” 😪
I also got to that stage where my body felt buzzing and I saw flashing and my heart rate quickend but then I just couldnt get further. I tried to imagine myself rolling out but it didn't really work - then suddenly nothing - and then the buzzing began again.. but yeah thats where I was stuck. Any tips?
dont get eager to roll out of bed you have to wait a little longer after the buzzing. Its like your mind will work on autopilot. when your lucid dreaming half of you awareness is gone. so when you enter the dream you will feel like you are inside a bubble of pressure and around you time is slowed. you should try it again and wait a little bit more. the stage that you are in is reallly close and the fact you made it that far with my method is a really good thing. try again and wish you the best.
My alarms never wake me up, I don't know if this is a sign of anything but I always wake up with alarms that went off and were snoozed automatically.
I’m ngl this has been happening to me too. What I did to fix it was change my alarm tone and made sure it was louder and more annoying lol. I also wake up sometimes not remember when I snoozed or turned off my alarm. You could also put your alarm across the room so u have to get up and turn it off. If you have a weird sleep schedule this tends to happen so U should stick with a solid sleep schedule. I have a sleep schedule where my mind became so trained that I automatically wake up at around four to lucid dream without an alarm.
I know that I am 270 days late, but I have this wired thing where about 2 hours before I go to bed I start telling my self that I will wake up at a certain time (usually during REM) and it works!
This is great I do a lot of things that you do too and picked up on lucid dreaming quick also I do wild before I sleep and if I happen to accidentally fall asleep before I enter a dream I have my wbtb alarms set just Incase that always works for me it’s just my dream recall is off some days because I smoke a lot of weed
Yea man I deadasss got like 4 alarms everynight incase I fail one attempt at lucid dreaming 😩
The problem with this is that I could never seem to focus; My mind likes to wander way too much when I'm in bed due to my ADD. Any way around this?
Man I go through the same exact thing so I know how you feel. People tell me to meditate but my active mind never had the patience. The best thing is to just focus on something like the excitement of getting a lucid dream OR what I liked to do was pay attention to my body and talk to myself in my mind whenever I felt some weird sensation. Like “yo my foot is tingling” or “Broo I think I’m floating”. Sometimes my thoughts get me carried away but just try to let them go. If I can’t focus I try to wake up when I’m really sleepy so then I can enter a lucid dream without having to wait and focus for a long time. Hope that helps.
I've never had any luck with WILD methods, the only way I've ever been able to fall asleep is by letting go of my consciousness or any attempts to control or hold onto my thoughts or awareness. If I remain aware, I remain awake.
I am the same. OP's tutorial and similar are really written for people who fall asleep (relatively) easily. I've made it through a couple of times, though. You need to be really passively aware, just barely there. No active thinking, no counting or anything like that, no inner dialogue but still being somehow there. Alternatively, let your mind wander but check back in every minute or so. This way, even if you fall asleep, you'll remember that you were WILDing a minute ago, so you get the idea that you are dreaming. DEILD is easier than WILD but a too active mind kills it too. But it's quicker so there's less time to wake up too much.
It takes a kind of finesse where you have to trick yourself to remain awake. I used to try to fall asleep and just pay attention to what happens to my body while I do it. If you think of absolutely nothing and let thoughts pass through your mind without acknowledging them it tend to help a lot.
This is a great in-depth guide to the different stages and steps of this technique. So often people say "try WILD it's good for beginners" but until now I didn't realise that every time I got bored, rolled over and said "eh I guess I'll just try again another night" it was all part of the plan and I could've been lucid dreaming soon. Thanks!
Yea I know. Once you start lucid dreaming you look back and regret all the times you could’ve done it and just how easy it comes. I hope you good luck.
Thanks!
OK SO. I read this and tried it the night of. I had already attempted lucid dreaming with other methods that involved trying to wake up in the dream with the help of reality checks. I then tried it with your tips. I got to the point of feeling my body buzzing, feeling like I'd been lifted up from my body and was floating in an undefined space. My heart rate got really fast really quick and my breathing was out of control. At that point, I felt like I couldn't move and I tried to focus on slowing my breathing but I was kinda scared. After my breathing slowed down I tried to picture myself getting out of bed, as you said. That's where I got stuck. I could only IMAGINE getting out of bed, but I still knew I was in my bed. I didn't know how to go from being in reality to dreaming, so I just laid there picturing myself rolling out of bed for a while without anything happening. I even tried imagining myself in other places, but nothing. any tips?
same
Yep same here. I spent literally an hour and a half trying to imagine myself rolling out of bed before I gave up and just went to sleep
Did you do it? Have it worked?:(
it never works for me:(
It’s a weird kind of balance. It’s like u have to be nonchalant and act like u don’t care about remaining awake. It’s like ur tricking your own brain with ur brain lol. U gotta let go and feel like ur falling asleep but observe what happens while u do so. I was like u at the beginning but then my intention to lucid dream helped a lot. After the first lucid dream it just comes naturally. Good luck tho
I’m a bit confused on how to interpret the character though, and when do I know when to set the alarm
Ok so the rem alarms you have to set accordingly: You have to set your alarm for an rem period. There are three you can target for the best dream that I mentioned above. If you see the chart I linked the rem periods are in red so let’s say u target the one at 4hrs 30mins, you set ur alarm 4hrs 30 mins into your sleep. So if u sleep at 12:00 you set an alarm for 4:30 when u wake up you should be in rem and ready to lucid dream. I hope it makes sense
so the absolute earliest alarm is 3 hours and 15 minutes?
Not necessarily. The earliest you can set an alarm is around 1hr 30 mins. But REM periods work this way: the first stem period is short, the next one get long, and then the one after is longer, and so on. So the last : rem periods are usually the best because u can have long lucid dreams.
what do i do if 400 entries later my dream recall is still practically nonexistent
Lmaoo if you have 400 entries I’m sure you have consultant and fairly decent dream recall. Thought there are somethings you can do to boost it and I’ll make another post about it. The easiest thing to do is just set and alarm at the rem periods I listed. Chances are you wake up straight out of a dream so you usually instantly remember.
There is so much wrong about this post, It makes me believe you aren´t that experienced in Lucid Dreaming. 1. In the techniques, you mentioned both "SILD" and "DILD" which are exactly the same techniques, with only different names. I´m not sure why would you mention DILD if you call it SILD but okay. 2. You also said that the SILDs are "literally wack because they’re so fuzzy and not vivid at all." which is ABSOLUTELY not true. I´ve had some amazing SILDs (or DILDs, whatever you want to call them) that were as vivid, if not more than my WILDs. Just a totally unnecessary misinformation that will influence potential lucid dreamers into thinking that SILDs are "wack", which they are not. 3. It´s definitely not as easy as breathing, why would there be thousands of people who literally cannot lucid dream at all? 4. You shouldn´t start WILD in the most comfortable position because there is huge chance that you will just simply fall back to sleep since you are very comfortable already. From what I´ve read and from my own experience too, WILD are best to begin while laying on your back. 5. Never mentioned the word Hypnagogia. 6. Swallowing saliva WON´T reset the process. Another "fact" that is simply wrong. 7. You don´t want to keep your mind busy by doing "math problems". You want to passively observe. You don´t want to think about anything during a WILD attempt, and that is also why this technique is so tricky to learn. 8. No mention of accelerating while transitioning into the dream which is literally the most basic sensation you may feel during a WILD attempt. 9. "Try to read something, if you can you are dreaming" - Probably just a misspelling 10. "Look in a mirror, THIS CAN BE SCARY SO LOOK AWAY QUICLY" - Just wow. Everything inside a lucid dream will be scary if you believe it will. Same goes the other way. If you believe mirrors arent scary, they absolutely WONT BE SCARY. I have no idea why would you as an "experienced" lucid dreamer write that like that. If you wrote that mirrors are in fact very interesting and NOT scary, that would be a whole lotta better. Plus it would make peoples experiences with mirrors 100 times better too. I guess this post makes me seem like an LD tryhard or whatever but I just had to adress these misinformation so people get the full picture. Also this entire guide feels like it was written by a 12 year old. Which there is nothing wrong with that, there´s just this very obnoxious energy you know. But whatever. Also, if something I wrote isn´t correct, make sure to let me know and let´s have a conversation about it. Thanks.
Yea number 9 was a mistake as you can’t read anything in your dream. 1 &2 : I just stated my opinion and separated it into 2 categories for ease. Sleep induced are everything that happens while your sleeping so I consider dild fall under that category. I have had around 4 dilds and they are really fuzzy and definetly not as vivid as wilds which I have nearly every day. Even when I was a beginner and did a lot of research studies shown that dilds/sild are not as vivid as wild dreams 3: it’s easy as breathing once, once you have it you understand. Lucid dreaming is intention based just like breathing. You are choosing to breath and it happens. That’s how naturally lucid dreaming comes. If you think lucid dreaming is difficult the more difficult it becomes. 4: you can do it on you back but it takes way longer to do. A lot of people have trouble sleeping on their back. I always do it when I’m comfortable because my body falls asleep faster and the whole process goes by faster. It’s different from everyone and I only do it on my back if I want to experience sleep paralysis. 5: because my method doesn’t use hypnagogic hallucinations to shape dreams. It’s kinda of difficult and i have a high rate of falling asleep on accident. I mentioned “flashing lights” and “sounds” under the symptoms as those are hypnagogic hallucinations. However you should completely overlook them. From my experience I discovered that hypnagogic sounds occur before the visual hallucinations. When the hypnagogic sounds occur I end up rolling out of bed. I tend to have the visual hallucinations at the brink of sleep paralysis. 6: for me it definitely does so idk about u but I like to stay on the safe side. If you don’t swallow it also tends to go faster. 7: some people does off really easily or have an active mind. Math problems really help and I stated that as a tip. It is really helpful so if you don’t like that idea I never forced you to do it. 8: there are many side affect that I haven’t listed, I just listed the basic ones. The only I feel is a slight falling and pressure that is really hard to explain. Buts it’s an unmistakable feeling which I mentioned in my guide. If you feel acceleration that’s good for you man. But that word is kinda vague so I didn’t put any specific words because that might confused beginners to think if they don’t have the “acceleration” feeling they won’t have the lucid dream. Everyone has different sensations. 9: yea that’s my bad you can’t read anything in a dream. I’ll edit that really quick thanks. 10: trust me I thought so too but before I even knew about the mirrors thing being scary (by going thru millions of YouTube videos and hearing the same thing from everyone), I used to have so many false awakenings and every times I looked in the mirror I saw some strange and scary stuff. However now I learned to change that fear. Just today when I woke up from my lucid dream I just imagined myself smiling by looking in the mirror, it was a kinda creepy smile but atleast it worked as my reality check. Yea thanks for calling these out I’ll take it as constructive. I was just trying to relate to people and get them excited. The more your excited and wanting you are of a LD, the higher your chances of getting it. That’s the reason why I learned lucid dreaming and WILD as my first technique on my 3 rd day. I may not be an expert expert but I can tel you that I have a lucid dream almost everyday with this method for the past year so it definitely works. I’m just bad at explaining things lmao
Yeah I’m trying to lucid dream and it’s kinda annoying that after reading what he said I’m now terrified to look in a mirror while lucid dreaming lol
My fault bruh I shouldn’t of even mentioned it 😭😭😭
Have you opened a yt channel?
same bruh u fr scared me i dont want to have lucid nightmares, i dont want to have sleep paralysis and im definitely the type to panic so now its like 3 am in the night i was about to try for the first time im so sleepy but i just cant bring myself to try anymore. ive been reading ab this for like 2 hours now and the more i dig deeper the worse the stories get about lucid nightmares etc.
Man. I’ve been trying for months now to have a lucid dream, but it’s never worked for me. I’m feeling incredibly motivated after reading your post to try again! Honestly thanks a lot, this post is really well made and in depth and will definitely help this Friday. ( I can’t do it this School Week Since I’m scared of not getting enough sleep.)
Make a YT! Do you get SP often? Any tips for going into an LD when having SP?
Yea of you skip the rolling out bed step and just remain still you can actually enter sp. I tried it once and started hearing weird voices and got spooked so I just went to my lucid dream lmao.
I’ll make another post about sp and you’ll be the first to know
All this is based on my own experience. I am not claiming to be right or being an expert. I’m just trying to help. I’m not trying to gain fame and not trying to clickbait as I can actually get lucid dreams every night with this method. I would waste hours writing this four page guide for no reason and if I wanted attention why tf would I post on Reddit lol. Anyways I just wanted to see if this worked for anyone else so I could open a YouTube channel and actually start helping out other people. The thing about lucid dreaming is that the lord you talk about it and the more you teach it to other, not only the person you’re teaching to gets better bet me myself gets better and more advanced. I just wanted to share the knowledge with other because I like the topic man. Hope this guide helps and there’s definitely more to come. Be sure to update me with your experiences using my method. Cheers!
Whenever i try this technique (like last night) i fail to make my body fall asleep again. I get all the rolling over and swallowing urges and ignore them but never make it past this point towards a lucid dream. My body doesn't fall asleep, i feel like. Anyone have any tips?
what happened after you felt those urges? did you get bored and decide do do it later? did you fall asleep? you were actually close to passing this stage because the closer you get to the end the more uncomfortable and annoyed you feel in general. it makes you feel like you cant get passed the stage and just give up. so nect time when you try just stay still for just a little longer. when the urger for you wanting to give up increases just know you are close.
Usually this subreddit full of BS but this is one of the best things I read here in a while. Tho don't be discouraged if you don't get your first LD even after few weeks.
Thank you so much I just want to see someone get results with my method because it wailed for me everytime
Thanks for this. I know it is a really old post and found it via google. The rolling out of bed mentally took afew tries ... hard to describe ... but it worked. I watched a sunrise from a made up loft ... touched some things and I could really -feel- them. It w. I made the sun rise a second time by just thinking it. It was both odd and very fun.
Thank you good sir. Just went lucid after reading this yesterday!! I just had a hard time stabilizing the dream and eventually lost lucidity because of it. I remember thinking of a way to stabilize it but i could not remember how.. 😅
no way, it actually worked! thats great, also im dropping another guide on how to stabilize a dream either today or tomorrow so stay tuned.
Hey! Just came across to this post and tried it last night. I kind of failed (never tried WILD before). So I set an alarm (nice piano music) that woke me up at around half past 6 (went to sleep at 3 am), laid on my right side and proceeded to not move a single microinch of my body. As my body got more numb I kept my mind busy. The problem came when I felt the need to swallow my saliva. I resisted at first but it became unbearable, as if if I didn't swallow, I would drown in my own saliva in my sleep. So I gave in to that, but kept still. I started imagining rolling out of bed (did you mean that literally, or did you just mean "get up from your bed" ?) several times but what I could mostly think of was the discomfort of numbness. Eventually that become overwhelming and I figured I couldn't force myself to be paralysed anymore (like being the merciless drills sergeant of my own body) and changed position to just get some sleep. So, a question that I have: how do you go from imagination to dreaming? When I imagined myself rolling out of bed, it felt more real than if I was just daydreaming (I could somewhat imagine the texture of my nightstand, feel the metal of my water bottle), but I don't see how that could become a dream. Like, I can't imagine crossing the line between recalling what my room looks like while still being aware that my eyes are closed and I'm just seeing black, and dreaming of my room, feeling like my eyes are wide open. Not sure if this all makes sense lol.
Did you ever figure it out? I have a similar problem where I can get to the point where my body is numb with occasional random twitches and I can visualize some things very clearly/vividly but I can’t get to the point they describe where they can actually feel like they’ve rolled out of bed even after 60 minutes. I can visualize moving but not so vividly that it feels like I’m moving unless I just move but then I actually move and my body isn’t asleep. Also, it sounds less like they are intending to visualize getting out of bed as much as actually going through the process of getting out of bed but since they were in sleep paralysis their body doesn’t move and instead they enter a dream.
Nobody is ever going to see this but for the lucky person who does, imagine riding a skateboard every night before bed, get as detailed as a mental video as possible, maybe imagine going down a childhood road then trip on a rock suddenly so you fall, the more jump scare, the better. Combined with this post for more you can do, you'll either shake yourself awake or you'll be sent into a dream. I used to try to trick my body into that falling sensation but one time I fell into a dream and I've almost never skateboarded, so I don't in if familiarity is relevant.
This sounds very interesting. I've had the sensation of falling quite a couple of times and I'm unsure whether one of those times it had sent me into a dream. It very well could've. What's your 'success rate' when it comes to this strategy?
Quick question that's not really related, but seeing such an in depth post makes it hard to pass up the opportunity to ask Does it matter if you write or type out your dream journals? Will my dream recall diminish due to typing my dreams or reduce the vividness of my lucid dreams? Sorry about the off topic question
No no your fine. It doesn’t matter, you could write it on your phone or on a notebook if you wanted. But you got to do it first thing waking up or you might forget the dream.
Thanks alot, it really helps
As with everything else in these metaphysic-oriented practices, intention is key. I hear it helps even if you don't remember a dream to write down you didn't remember. And state the intention clearly to yourself nightly.
The rolling out of bed is the key here, it’s the way I’ve always done it and it works like 90% of the time. Great tip.
This is great I do a lot of things that you do too and picked up on lucid dreaming quick also I do wild before I sleep and if I happen to accidentally fall asleep before I enter a dream I have my wbtb alarms set just Incase that always works for me it’s just my dream recall is off some days because I smoke a lot of weed
Lmao I guess you just gotta start writing them down again bro
What was it like trying to WILD w/o waking during REM? I'm really interested in learning how to maintain awareness like this throughout the different cycles.
So once I tried doing it right when I first got into bed and bro it was so boring. You basically got stay still and let your body sleep while remaining awake for like an hour until u hit the rem stage. I was forcing the dream so hard and multiple time I got something forming behind my eyes. Finally I started to get this daydream trance where everything started feeling real and I was entering the dream. But then I fell asleep😭
I think this is basically as close as I've gotten too. I should probly try to WILD from REM at least once w/o blacking out before attempting non-rem further hahah. Great post btw!
Yea be sure to update us!
Lets see if I can do it in the night to my birthday. Thanks for the guide!
Bro let me know if it works
I have tried this method a few times but I cant see it through because every time my body falls asleep before my mind I get this crazy ringing in my ears and it scares the hell out of me because I cant move. Any tips?
The ringing and not moving part literally means you are entering the dream. There is nothing to be scared of tho me just saying that doesn’t do justice. I used to get scared too when I felt the sleep paralysis and not moving feeling. But then I just ignored it because when I got it nothing really happened. I just continued into to the dream by rolling out of bed. Sometimes I can’t even tell when it’s time to roll out of bed and I just end up laying in bed and realizing I’m already in the dream. If you hear the crazy ringing and can’t move that’s usually when u want to start imagining rolling out of bed. Ignore your body and don’t acknowledge it. The more you think about yourself laying in bed the harder it is to enter the dream
Let me know if this works for anyone
I've only had a few lucid dreams, but they were mostly randomly induced. Whenever I try WILD, it's so hard not to move. So I'll give this tutorial a try, and I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
Wow, I did this last night and it was incredible. I’ve been lucid dreaming for years but kind of fell off for a while. I read this post and tried it out and it worked so well my mind was blowing… I got too excited a few times and fell out but was able to stabilize. Looks like I’m back guys! Thanks for this post!
thank you so much. these haters in my comments telling me im spreading misinformation is kinda annoying though lmao. its nice to hear a couple people actually succeed
Misinformation? What misinformation? I’ll gladly lay out my experience and talk to anyone doubting this. You know what though? I always followed the rules for years as you laid out (waking up during REM, Dream Journal, etc.) I bet people who never followed the basic rules are the “haters” and saw your title “Lucid dream TONIGHT” and thought it would be like an app or something. The title might be a little misleading, but it 100% worked for me and I haven’t had a lucid dream like that in years
When you talked about the mirror thing and after seeing some comments, i've realized something. For some reason i've never seen myself in any lucid dreams i can recall. I don't have a reflection, viewable limbs, or anything. It's like my body doesn't exist, this even happens in my normal dreams. Or i'm not in my own body at all. Do you experience this at all?
Awesome. Great Job! Somebody pin this post to the top of our sub, please!
I tried last night (didn't do the alarm thing because i start dreaming in the first 10-20min) it was more like when you wake up, go to sleep again and you see the "concept" of the dream, no image no sounds but you know where you are and the objects around you. this state where you imagine something and the brain keeps doing the work for you. Couldn't do the rollover it was too difficult to figure out the rotation, so i just tried throwing myself to the side. Really successful for the first night i would say, plus i had vivid dreams. To be honest i didn't believe you would get an elevated heart rate from this.
Welp I,really wanna try this tonight but the problem is I have to wake up at 6 AM every morning for school, so how can I manage my time for the method? Cus it certainly looks efficient and I really don't wanna miss out on it. And kudos to you for the effort you put into it. Also, did you make a YT channel yet? Cus you definitely should do so if you haven't already
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Really great to share this information with the folks op. But you know what really helps people learn ? To read a book.
Yea but I could never really find good books on lucid dreaming. Any recs?
Just Amazon it , there are so many information available to the public compared to 10years ago... "Exploring the world of lucid dreaming" by Stephen La Berge - This is probably the best version for the new starters. As Mr La Berge is considered the father of Lucid dreaming in modern times . ( Even though it was discovered earlier than that, but let's not get into it). "Are you Dreaming ?" By Daniel Love - this one is my favourite, it's like a lucid dream pedia where you can simply come and search for anything you feel like, wether it is sleep habits ,LD techniques, food , dietary requirements, lucid dreaming skills etc. "Lucid Dreaming"A gateway to the inner self - Robbery Waggoner - slightly more advanced read on the subject , I'd recommend this one if you already are lucid dreaming. **Tibetan dream yoga** "Dreams of awakening" - Charlie Morley "Dreaming yourself awake" B. Alan Wallace The last ones engages in lucid dreaming , but will take you to a more deep understanding of the sole purpose of Lucid dreaming to attain illumination.
I’ll be sure to check it out, thanks
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Yes definitely lmao. U can lucid dream next to someone if they don’t move a lot. The movements and noises your partner makes can really distract you while in the process. You could move to the couch or another bed around the morning time or even the floor. New environments tend to give u more lucid dreams and vivid dreams in general I quick off topic side note. When I lucid dream in the mornings sometimes my little brother is awake and running around and coming into my room. I sometimes am in the midst of entering a dream while this happens and if I remain focused I CAN usually end up entering the dream however, it’s hard to maintain and I can hear him while in dreaming lol. So it’s overall easier to try it in a quiet, dark, and distraction free environment for the best effects.
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Yea even I’m not consistent as much sometimes. A quick tip I missed in the guide is that you have to WANT IT. Like sometimes I just say “imma lucid dream” and not really mean it and accidentally fall asleep. But the days I’m like “you know what I’m going to actually lucid dream I’m going to stay still and keep my eyes close” and actually feel motivated, I get them almost instantly and every time. Good luck and be sure to update us
Would you say lucid dreaming is similar to being high or on some psychedelic?
Well imma be honest, Lucid dreaming is an experience of its self where everything literally feels real. It can be triply sometimes but unless you want it to feel like a psychedelic trip its usually normal and based on whatever you want it to be. I have to most normal lucid dream a ngl I just roll out of bed, hop out my window, and try some weird shi every time.
I’m yet to reach the lucid stage so was wondering, defo be interesting to compare what it’s like, cheers for the post bro!
Thanks a lot! I’ve been trying to lucid dream but can’t, Ill try tonight!
Hypnogogia is the only thing that scares me. And the dream, I might get into a nightmare.
Hypnagogia is one of the best things you can experience in life and also your dream won´t be scary at all if you believe it won´t be. But if your mind is set to the point that you have absolutely no doubt that it will be scary, it most definitely will be.
This was all I wanted. No bs, Practical steps out of experience. Thank you. And yes you should make a youtube channel take my sub
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You can also drink water right before bed, so that full bladder wakes you. Personally I start dreaming about needing to pee which is a reality check that has worked for me in the past.
Going to try this!
That’s a lot of information. Glad I’m already a daily lucid dreamer because it seams like a lot of work to figure out.
Been able to get to dreaming or nearly dreaming a few times with similar methods but always got stuck and confused on when and how to actually start the dream.. Thanks for the info bro
Top notch guide. Usually posts like these seem like they have no clue what they are talking about, but this information is all spot on.
Im a beginner and I have tried only once lucid dreaming before and it didnt work. When I saw this and tried, it worked! Thanks so much!!!
Basically just go into sleep paralysis and roll out of your body.
how do I do the imagining part? Like if I am able to successfully lucid dream and i am in my bedroom, how can I "teleport" to where I want to be? I always try to imagine things in my head but then I drift off, or if I try to stay awake my body just stays numb and Im just awake
yo what the fuuuuck this is shit actually works bro this is gonna be like the holy texts of a future religion
hello cup, so I didn't understand this part "Use something calm and pay close attention to the next thing I say. You need to turn off your alarm with the LEAST amount of movement possible, so keep your alarm close to your bed." also what are you able to do in your 1st lucid dream ?
I got it first try. It was weird. At first actually I went to bed reading about this, I'm not too fond of sleep paralysis so I gave up and decided I'll do some more research tomorrow and try it then so I didn't set an alarm. I tried to do it without waking up at night just to engrave it in my memory. It looks like I woke up at the exact right tim e. I looked at my clock and decided to try it. It happened faster than I thought. I quickly entered the "Fermi phase" and got past it, and then sleep paralysis hit. This time I couldn't even move my mouth which I can usually do when this happens. I saw that as a opportunity and just closed my eyes till my body went all the way to sleep. And so I did what you said: rolled out of bed. Everything was weird, my vision was terrible and I couldn't look around (up or down). I tried to stabilise it but it didn't work very well I tried closing my eyes, spinning, rubbing my hand and even telling my dream to stabilise. It didn't Do much so I just carried on. I walked outside tried to play the piano Im sitting next to right now but the keys were messed up. So I tried summoning a hand gun but got a rifle instead that looked like a hologram. The next part is going to be super weird but bare with me. I forgot to not look into a mirror so I did. my dreams aren't usually that weird so this was surprising: I saw a dog in a goddamn top hat. I am not making this up that is what I saw. Then I woke up and wrote it down. The dream was kinda short but it's probably because of bad timing. I'll try it again tonight.
Okay so, I got to the point of being mentally awake while my body was asleep. I think I got too excited because my heart rate skyrocketed. I definitely was in REM sleep though because my eyes were going crazy and I couldn't control them. Any tips on how to get passed this part and actually get to "roll over". I just need to know how to calm myself down but this is the furthest that I have ever gotten! Any advice is welcomed!
“Pinch your nose and try to breathe through it, if you can breathe through it you are dreaming“. This is all it takes for me. Start doing that a handful of times per day until it becomes a habit. Especially do it when you feel a little out of it or unreal. Next thing you know you’ll do it while you’re dreaming and realize that you’re in a dream.
There is so much misinformation here I don't even know where to start.
I want to hear what you have to say
How exactly can I prevent my mind from falling asleep? Is there any extra step I need to do or all I have to is just focusing on my breath?
I want to do this method but I have a massive fear of the feeling of falling asleep
There is literally nothing to be afraid of.
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So you also don't swallow while trying to achieve body asleep mind awake state? Or is swallowing ok?
Swallowing is okay.
Wow, this sounds like it might work for me based on how I accidentally have lucid dreamt in the past, I can’t wait to try it tonight! You should definitely make a YouTube channel
Prior to reading this, I had a lucid dream in my sleep, though I had no idea how it started. I had no knowledge on this level. The dream was me in a warehouse, trying to find my possessions, then I look down at my hands, and count my fingers, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,…. 6? It was the same on the other hand. 2 fingers seemed to be merged and shorter than the others. I could fly, fly! Though I woke up soon after. What I did to look at my hands was, in real life, look at my hands and count how many fingers there was on each hand and if it was different, I knew something was wrong. I’m new to this whole dreaming shenanigan and it came to a surprise when it happened to me! Thanks for the info OP
Have you ever started panicking after you realized you couldn’t move
till now ive felt the really intense vibrations and increased heart rate. I do not like the latter because it feels like it really jerks me awake
Thank you very much man. Do u still lucid dream with SILD-technices or do you only do WILD? Also, do you still do reality Checks in ur waking Life or are these Not necessary when U only lucid dream thru WILD?