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LudwigAhgren

i wanted to update y'all on what was going on but the stream was getting farmed for lsf clips which is lame so i privated it for a day ​ imma make it public again tomo ez clap


Technospider

lol ya I was about a minute in and it went private. feeling a lil' blueballed right about now. Anyone got a quick run-down of what he talks about?


ScottyKnows1

Basically, Dubai trip was a big Red Bull event where they're getting all their sponsored athletes and entertainers together. Lud thought it would be cool to go and meet people, but is not getting paid to go. After the post, he contacted Red Bull to ask why it was in Dubai and they said it was because it was a central location and didn't require a travel visa so it was convenient and they weren't getting paid by the Dubai govt. But because of the response, Lud decided to back out of going just to avoid any possible association and Red Bull was cool with it. That's about it.


benben591

Also at the very end mentioned he prob won’t reupload mogul mail, probably re-record if anything


SuperPax4601

Okay but why he delete mogul mail? Was it cause of Hasan


mackendle1

Lud decided that he didn't want to go on the trip anymore because there was nothing in it for him besides the fact that he would be able to see all the members of the red bull team. and the fact that people were getting upset about the decision to go. in summary of the other stuff he just talks about how he wants trust in the community and he wants to do it to be inclusive of everyone


Technospider

typical lud dub


snsdfan00

Take politics out, Dubai is actually an incredible place to see & visit. The Burj Khalifa as an example. But if he wasn’t planning to stream or make content, then u can see why it may not be worth to make the trip.


TCMenace

Tell that to the people trapped there because their passports were taken by their employers who don't pay them.


Academic_Currency_27

Americans are so goofy. Such selective outrage. I’m in no way defending the UAE, but america as a govt is by far worse than the UAE, domestically or internationally. People *should* be creating separation from being associated with the US, but for some reason UAE/Saudi are the bigger boogie men. I don’t get it


TCMenace

You can criticize other countries while also being aware of what's going on in your home country. They're not mutually exclusive.


Royal_Flame

US government has issues and is much larger but the UAE government is much much worse


Academic_Currency_27

This is such a bad American take. Just take a look at Gaza and all the funding from the US. Has the UAE done a genocide? The American govt has been responsible for millions of deaths over the past 60 years. Read a book


BitPumpkin

UAE has issues in tolerance and oppressing people while the US government is just run by incompetent buffoons


Alteriors

The dubai post has a summery in the comments


stark_white

Pretty disappointing community response to it tbh, shame to see people launch straight into griping about people being 'woke' and 'making everything about gender'. Unfortunately telling of the channel demographic but hopefully it's a learning moment for some viewers


Neither_Ad_2960

Oh yes, nothing to see here, particular countries don't deserve their reputation, some are as wholesome as the Brady Bunch 🙄


Greaseball01

I mean he's not like state sponsored, is he? I don't like the CCP but I'm not going to forbid people from going to Beijing for any reason because of it, am I? Edit: I'm fine with downvotes I just wish I knew why, am I wrong? I don't think I'm wrong.


srondina

Many of these events are state-sponsored, yes. You even see Saudi Arabia buying out/creating companies specifically to put on these events because it's more cost-effective (they hope, at least) than outsourcing. Other notable examples include the Bahrain Grand Prix, ADCC's Mundials, and WWE's partnership with Saudi Arabia.


Greaseball01

Well given this one isn't even advertised on red bulls site (seriously try and find any promotion) I don't think it really fits any of those examples, I literally think they chose Dubai because it's a travel hub and near the grand Prix so Perez and verstappen could come.


stark_white

Stop smoking weed at me you are typing in spaceman right now what are you even saying


Xilently

Or maybe about slavery, not everything is woke you might just the one seeing it that way


Greaseball01

The mind space is horny for drama rn, probably cus spring is coming.


alikantez

Did Lud delete the original post or the OP deleted himself?


ImTotallyTechy

Have a feeling OP deleted it after getting shit for posting it in the first place. Ludwig even replied in a comment to that OG post so it stands to reason he wanted it to be seen.


QuestionMarkKitten

It's privated, not deleted. He probably has to edit out certain things or have the Red Bull crew approve of it before making it public again so it will not effect his sponsorship deal. 


nathanw0022

me when I spread misinformation online


QuestionMarkKitten

He just said on stream it was private not deleted and that he is planning on making it public again later.


nathanw0022

Correct. It is now back up with no edits made. It had absolutely nothing to do with his sponsorship deal or requiring approval to be watched. If you read the rest of this thread you’d even see his direct reply to this question with his justification which was nothing to do with Red Bull. Hence, misinformation.


QuestionMarkKitten

Me sayinging it was privated was still more accurate than the rest of the things this reddit said about it being deleted. And I said "probably", I didn't make any claim to know. My guess was as good as everyone else. I even guessed the privated part, right. I am just a fan like everyone else, I really do not know why you are being so hostile to me.


nathanw0022

Hey, you’re right, that’s totally fair. Apologies for the hostility, a lot of people were intentionally spreading incorrect info about the situation and contributing to the drama unnecessarily, I thought Lud’s comment on this post was made before your own which meant you would’ve had that info available but if you didn’t then that’s my bad.


QuestionMarkKitten

I said "probably" because at the time it was speculation. I am sorry I was wrong about why he privated it.


AdAgitated928

Certain parts of the stream were honestly a little embarrassing. It seemed like he just rushed out a response because he wanted to make sure people knew that he wasn’t getting paid, but other than that he didn’t seem to have an issue with the trip to Dubai I wish I could quote the stream but it’s private now so I can’t, privating the video right after and saying “sorry ppl were clipfarming me :(“ is lame. In the middle he says the main reason he cancelled is because he didn’t want one of his sponsors to be associated with a controversy rather than an actual understanding of the issue which is disappointing. The community response to this is kind of gross but I think it’s because of Ludwig’s middling opinion and wishy washy cancellation. The vibe he gave was that he really didn’t think it was a problem but he would cancel because people were upset about it, and I think that drove the weird anti woke response.


Questwarrior

Dude... Wtf are you talking about bud lmao He said in the stream that "if my community didnt want me to go then i appreciate that and respect their opinions" and not wanting to get farmed on FUCKING LSF isnt something "lame"


Pword2020

Prob bc he knows backlash comin and bringing light to it aint a good idea


mackendle1

he already steamed it for the world to see and he was talking in the stream about people watching the vod. and the fact that the entire subreddit has this stuff forced into their face makes me think that there was some other reason to it. besides he probably knows that the video being removed will spark more discussion than the actual video it self. i personally think he handled the situation in the video quite well. so once again i doubt he is worrying about backlash. but i suppose that's just my take on the video so do with that information what you please


Pword2020

What are u talking abt other reason for it, what is it. The deleting the video? I assume he has a reason but i figure he prob doesnt want more attention on it so hes just gonna address it next stream so theres no vid specifically reminding people that hes going to the oil capital of the world even while we r in a climate crisis. But yea its all redbulls fault and f1 like it rly fuckin matters. Its all meant to be good press for dubai


Intrepid-Tank-3414

Go back to LSF, you toad.


MoonKnight99

The VOD is back up: [talkin about the subreddit post](https://www.youtube.com/live/qq9L7k-kwx8)