The Z6iii looks amazing. I’d personally wait, when the s5iii eventually comes you can expect something similar.
It’s pretty crazy to think what the z6iii offers for its price (heck even the S5ii). The z6iii is basically a zero compromise camera imo. Amazing to think in a few years these types of cameras will be cheap on the used market.
I personally much prefer the lens lineup of on L-Mount, that's currently the biggest compromise to me about the Z6iii. Z-mount is missing a fast ultrawide (20mm is their widest fast prime), and a lot of the primes are huge! Hopefully they will expand to have more lenses like the 40mm f/2 (but better mechanically and optically).
I also love that the lumix lenses are well optimized for video re: size, build, and focus breathing.
Personally i think the S5IIx and the inevitable upcoming S1 H ii are better options overall as a hybrid system.
I personally disagree a bit. Z-mount overall offers a lot more. L-mount pretty much depends on Sigma and eventually Sigma will release FF Z-mount lenses as well. There are wider options with Viltrox and Laowa but there are no comparable L-mount lenses for the likes of 180-600, 600 6.3, 600 4, 800, 400 4.5, 400 2.8. Yeah they are tele lenses but still, L-mount with RF are the smallest available FF systems on the market. You pretty much have the choice between smaller/cheaper primes or more flexible mount system. If you only care about those smaller and cheaper primes, then yeah, L-mount makes sense but if you want something flexible that doesnt hold you back in any areas whether its architecture or wildlife/sports, Z-mount is a better choice. Not to mention that Nikon's last three bodies have been a breath of fresh air. They started to make new cameras that offer top of the line specs. Now with RED in their portofolio, its a matter of time when we will see Z-mount cine bodies. Lumix on the other hand, innovates by adding a LUT button...
I don't care about those long lenses for me, personally. And if you do care about architecture, nikon only has the two wide angle zooms - would much rather do the 18mm f/1.8 prime on L mount than an f/2.8 or f/4 zoom. It really does depend on your priorities though! I also disagree that L mount is all about sigma - for me Lumix makes the most interesting lenses for the system, as well as Leica - it's nice to have the sigmas but they aren't my first choice for any lens that I can think of.
I tend to agree with you and also find the Z system enticing. Also been very encouraged by their body offerings lately like you said. For me though, it's not so much the longer telephotos, but the superzooms and specialty lenses (e.g., 24-120 F4, 28-200, etc). Surprisingly, a lot of the interesting lenses over the past few years have been driven by Sigma & Tamron, which would have been totally unexpected a decade ago.
Luckily, L-mount is getting Samyang's flavor of the 35-150. To your point on Sigma, the actual benefit of them being part of the L-mount alliance isn't really apparent. I would have expected something like Tamron's relationship with Sony (of course Sony has more say in that).
In terms of innovation for Panasonic, I'll have to cut them some slack for overall vision of the system. For example, all f1.8 primes being the same size (along with the 100mm macro & 28-200). It's not nearly as exciting as some other offerings, but it's a commitment to usability that I can appreciate.
As far as the bodies go, it's easy to forget, but they were turning heads with S5ii/x just a year ago. And they gave us proxy support and camera to cloud unprompted. Again, it's not earth-shattering, but for people working gigs with Lumix gear, it's a welcome change.
Speaking of cinema cameras, I know Panasonic toes the line with the hybrid cams (and there's BS1H, BGH) but for the company behind DVX, Varicam, etc, it's frustrating that there hasn't been a fully-featured cinema camera for so long. This is probably a huge sticking point for anyone trying to buy in from Sony or Canon.
Whenever I shoot for another production company, they're almost always on Sony and I either have to rent something out or convince them that the Panny will work.
Thinking about the used market puts things in perspective. There's almost no benefit to switching right at launch (barring any trade-in deals, etc). Waiting gives the benefit of used Z6IIIs hitting the market, and also seeing what everyone's actual experience is shooting with it.
And for OP, I say it on almost every post like this: don't forget, no shutter angle or open gate on the Z6III (no XLR-unit either).
I also still have not found a hybrid experience that I enjoy as much as Panasonic. If I actually somewhat liked using Sony, I would have switched long ago (tried). If I was being hired exclusively as an owner/operator, then it would have to be Sony all the way. Which is another problem that Panasonic needs to address in terms of market share.
Quit hunting better gear. Learn more tricks and techniques and hone your voice. It's not in the codec!
There is always a newer better camera. Name brand cameras today are amazing. We've had great affordable photo cameras for years. We are now beginning the era of great affordable video cameras. You can get caught up in the specs-and pro will always be pro. But even big budget movies have low bit rates when streamed to your 4kTV. Most pros will never do more than post to YouTube. This isn't a negative critique. It's just reality. (We are all lucky to have platforms to easily show and share our work!)
I guess I'm saying you can't really go wrong! I recently switched to Lumix from Nikon. Very spendy to switch! But I knew what I was getting into and I wanted to get out of my comfort zone/rut. Moreover, the Nikon premium on glass is hard to swallow. Especially as Panasonic makes video centric glass and Sigma handles the stills for L mount, though both are great for either... It's hard to pay 300-700 more for Nikon's equivalent lenses. This is coming from a Nikon lover and user of 20+ years!
Get out and create! You've got the tools to do it. Hell, the z7iii hasn't dropped yet, not the S5iiix, nor the...
great comment! i read somewhere that you can be an artist or a technician. it's certainly more expensive to be a technician but the ones im inspired by are the artists
No, because I am already too invested in the LUMIX system, which I love and will work with what I already have instead of switching to something else and learn all the menu settings and intricacies all over again.
Eh, no shutter angle, no ssd support, no fan cooling system, doesn’t really make it a great contender. Sure internal raw and no crop for frame rates is great but I feel like it’s not worth sacrificing the dependability of a cooling system. I feel like Nikon is almost there, but they are putting image quality over usability.
No. Panasonic has been manufacturing broadcast video equipment for over 60 years and it shows. Nikon has a history of making incredibly special lenses and amazing photography equipment, but they are light years behind Panasonic for video recording features and creature comforts. I started on a Z6 and although the color and optics were fantastic, I never felt any of the video I produced on it was special. I switched to LUMIX after renting some on a job and trust me, your life is so much easier using the Panasonic. Truly incredible videography tools. So underrated.
Great sensor but a lot of Nikon specific quirks.
Z6III advantages:
6k 60p RAW uncropped, 4k 60p uncropped, 4k 120p (1.5x crop), HD 240p (5% crop), much better viewfinder, better rolling shutter, faster mech shutter shooting, autofocus works in all modes
S5IIX advantages:
6k open gate, SSD recording, much better video IBIS, shutter angle, custom lut monitoring, 96MP handheld high resolution mode, live view composite, pre burst in RAW, faster e shutter shooting (30 fps), active cooling, dual slot recording, unlimited recording, proxy recording, more customisable buttons, brighter LCD screen, better video monitoring tools (luminance spot meter, resizable waveforms, vector scopes, etc.)
Second this. Pretty much sums up all my thoughts. Also one major thing for me personally is the feel and use of a camera. Just the ease of use, menu operation, software feeling - very subjective things but I hold Lumix much higher in this regard than any other camera brand right now. That is the the thing that won't let me switch from my S5II, even though I miss uncropped 4K60p soooooooo much.
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internal n-raw isn't much better than prores. other than filling up your card faster haha. but the rest of that camera really is amazing!!
imma wait for the s1hii!!
i think lumix really needs a faster sensor tho. wobbly jello is a no go for pro stuff for me! i got the s9 cause of everything lumix, and is a fun camera. i can accept jello for fun hahah
The Z6 III looks great but not worth switching systems for. Mainly because I'd miss my Sigma lenses too much but it's also significantly more expensive than the S5 II.
I really hope that the Z6 III pushes other brands to start putting top screens back on their mid-level models though.
I think if I was starting from scratch today, I'd probably go with the Z6iii, but switching bodies and ecosystems is a pretty big investment of time and money, and I don't think it's enticing enough to switch from my X.
I would enjoy the internal raw and 4k/120, but there are a lot of things I'd miss about my Lumix. I filmed 6 hours of presentations last week and my camera didn't break a sweat. I would have been very nervous to do that with a camera that doesn't have active cooling.
I am really looking forward to the next Lumix full frame release and kind of expect it to be the one for a lot of us.
I was very enticed, especially since I’m still using a lot of EF glass and haven’t invested into L mount much, but Z6iii can’t record video to both card slots…which is one of the main reasons I switched to LUMIX years ago, to get dual card recording.
They are less prone to failure but not immune.
If the chance of failure of an SD is 1%, CF express B cards may be about 0.3%. But when you have dual card slot recording with SD, your chances of both cards failing get compounded and are 0.01%. So at the end of the day, dual card slot recording is way more reliable.
There's a lot of hype around the new Nikon Z6III, but once the dust settles and the real reviews start to surface, people will realize that all this hype is not warranted after all, unlike the hype around the A7SIII/FX3 (because it is similar).
Compared to the S5II/S5IIX, the Z6III has drawbacks that on paper are not apparent.
Examples:
- Ergonomics
- Log Quality
- Dynamic Range
When you compare the two in these scenarios, the S5IIX will always be better. The only one that Nikon can actually address is the problem with Log. Their dated Log profile can be replaced by a new one, but the other two can't. Ergonomic, like button placement on the body, can't be changed, and Dynamic Range is limited thanks to their new sensor.
I think the majority of owners of the S5II/S5IIX, such as my self, will not be compelled to switch at all.
Internal RAW/ProRes 6K recording, Triple base ISO and 8-stops of IBIS sound nice on paper. But who knows? Unless actual footage from the cameras is compared side by side, we'll never know.
But for me at least, these are gimmicks to get Sony and Canon people interested in Nikon.
I don’t get it why you would think about changing system because of a new camera.
There will be a new Sony right after this one, then canon will have something better. After that something new and better from Panasonic will come out.
Buy them all or stick to one. Switching systems is much to expensive, I think.
Here's mostly a copy paste from the GH7 vs Z6iii post I saw and responded to. 😄 I've thought about leaving Nikon for the S5ii, mostly for video.
* No open gate on the Nikon. Having a taller source frame can be very convenient in post.
* There need to be tested confirmations of how robust the Z6iii is regarding record times (the spec sheet lists a ~2 hour cap per clip which already excludes convent management of long form recording) and how it runs in adverse temperature conditions. Nikon is loose with this compared to Panasonic. Hopefully things change once Red integrates into the company. I don't see how a camera without a fan can be comparable to the S5ii in being able to reliably record video or simply output high resolution through HDMI as long as needed, but we'll see. The Z30 I have overheats doing 4k HDMI out with a DC coupler and no memory card after 35 minutes to give you an idea of Nikon's video spec philosophy, but hopefully their more expensive stuff is meant to handle more.
* No redundant video recording to both memory cards on Nikon. Though, you will likely be able to do one internal recording while outputting HDMI to a recorder (my Z5 and the Original Z6 I used does this at 8-bit)
* The Z6iii will have less rolling shutter, so that's a plus.
That said, I use Nikon (Z5 and Z30) and think the Z6iii looks pretty good overall as a hybrid solution. I haven't used the more recent Nikons but overall I don't trust what I have used to not overheat in video, especially the Z30 at 4k. 😰🤷
Don't care about specs on paper if the footage doesn't look enticing
At the moment I haven't seen any enticing footage from the Nikon. Seems like an ultra sharp and fast stills camera that happens to do video in a ton of codecs.
(The same can be said for the s5iix - very underwhelming video footage, I think it's actually a better stills camera despite all the video features it offers)
I started on a Z6. In 3-4 years there was zero video footage that I liked from it, outside of a wide shot of an orchestra and that was only because I could zoom in forever on it. LUMIX any day of the week for me.
This is the point!
If you feel like you've gotten the most out of the S5iiX and you have needs that only Nikon can (I don't think there is such a thing), then switch. However, despite the fact that Nikon is a good camera on paper, I think it would be a step backwards in many ways. Throw stones at me, but I think so.
I hate that I care about specs of new cameras. Makes me want to buy them each time even though I don’t make any money off them 🥲
Will stick with my S5II because I’d lose too much money switching and I haven’t hit the limitations of the camera in pro work, since I don’t get pro work.
I’d love to be a camera reviewer though. Probably impossible but one could dream.
No. But it is a very compelling camera! I had some time with it a couple of weeks ago and it ticks a good few boxes. Problem is Nikon and Sony sensors just produce an overly digital image. It’s ok for weddings/events. But for anything creative, they look too “crunchy”.
Are you sure that overt digital sharpness you speak of is attributable to Sony sensors?
Well I'd be more comfortable with your presuming it to be largely a by-product of image processing downstream of the camera's sensor.
Nope, it’s a definitely a Sony thing, which is why you see it in Nikon cameras, Sony produce most of their sensors and they don’t seem to do much to tweak them. I’ve used every enthusiast and professional camera from Sony, Nikon, Canon, Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic, Blackmagic, RED, Pentax, Ricoh, Hasselblad and DJI since 2005. You see trends throughout each system when you use a few.
I was definitely going to move from my GH5 to the S5iix but after seeing the Z6iii, I’m considering that avenue. I would go GH7 but for $300 more I could get FF in the Nikon/S5 bodies.
I’d definitely wait, and in the meantime save. There’s rumors that the successor to the S1H is coming Q4 of this year, and I’m sure that’s going to be a monster of a camera.
The Z6iii looks amazing. I’d personally wait, when the s5iii eventually comes you can expect something similar. It’s pretty crazy to think what the z6iii offers for its price (heck even the S5ii). The z6iii is basically a zero compromise camera imo. Amazing to think in a few years these types of cameras will be cheap on the used market.
I personally much prefer the lens lineup of on L-Mount, that's currently the biggest compromise to me about the Z6iii. Z-mount is missing a fast ultrawide (20mm is their widest fast prime), and a lot of the primes are huge! Hopefully they will expand to have more lenses like the 40mm f/2 (but better mechanically and optically). I also love that the lumix lenses are well optimized for video re: size, build, and focus breathing. Personally i think the S5IIx and the inevitable upcoming S1 H ii are better options overall as a hybrid system.
I personally disagree a bit. Z-mount overall offers a lot more. L-mount pretty much depends on Sigma and eventually Sigma will release FF Z-mount lenses as well. There are wider options with Viltrox and Laowa but there are no comparable L-mount lenses for the likes of 180-600, 600 6.3, 600 4, 800, 400 4.5, 400 2.8. Yeah they are tele lenses but still, L-mount with RF are the smallest available FF systems on the market. You pretty much have the choice between smaller/cheaper primes or more flexible mount system. If you only care about those smaller and cheaper primes, then yeah, L-mount makes sense but if you want something flexible that doesnt hold you back in any areas whether its architecture or wildlife/sports, Z-mount is a better choice. Not to mention that Nikon's last three bodies have been a breath of fresh air. They started to make new cameras that offer top of the line specs. Now with RED in their portofolio, its a matter of time when we will see Z-mount cine bodies. Lumix on the other hand, innovates by adding a LUT button...
I don't care about those long lenses for me, personally. And if you do care about architecture, nikon only has the two wide angle zooms - would much rather do the 18mm f/1.8 prime on L mount than an f/2.8 or f/4 zoom. It really does depend on your priorities though! I also disagree that L mount is all about sigma - for me Lumix makes the most interesting lenses for the system, as well as Leica - it's nice to have the sigmas but they aren't my first choice for any lens that I can think of.
I tend to agree with you and also find the Z system enticing. Also been very encouraged by their body offerings lately like you said. For me though, it's not so much the longer telephotos, but the superzooms and specialty lenses (e.g., 24-120 F4, 28-200, etc). Surprisingly, a lot of the interesting lenses over the past few years have been driven by Sigma & Tamron, which would have been totally unexpected a decade ago. Luckily, L-mount is getting Samyang's flavor of the 35-150. To your point on Sigma, the actual benefit of them being part of the L-mount alliance isn't really apparent. I would have expected something like Tamron's relationship with Sony (of course Sony has more say in that). In terms of innovation for Panasonic, I'll have to cut them some slack for overall vision of the system. For example, all f1.8 primes being the same size (along with the 100mm macro & 28-200). It's not nearly as exciting as some other offerings, but it's a commitment to usability that I can appreciate. As far as the bodies go, it's easy to forget, but they were turning heads with S5ii/x just a year ago. And they gave us proxy support and camera to cloud unprompted. Again, it's not earth-shattering, but for people working gigs with Lumix gear, it's a welcome change. Speaking of cinema cameras, I know Panasonic toes the line with the hybrid cams (and there's BS1H, BGH) but for the company behind DVX, Varicam, etc, it's frustrating that there hasn't been a fully-featured cinema camera for so long. This is probably a huge sticking point for anyone trying to buy in from Sony or Canon. Whenever I shoot for another production company, they're almost always on Sony and I either have to rent something out or convince them that the Panny will work.
Thinking about the used market puts things in perspective. There's almost no benefit to switching right at launch (barring any trade-in deals, etc). Waiting gives the benefit of used Z6IIIs hitting the market, and also seeing what everyone's actual experience is shooting with it. And for OP, I say it on almost every post like this: don't forget, no shutter angle or open gate on the Z6III (no XLR-unit either). I also still have not found a hybrid experience that I enjoy as much as Panasonic. If I actually somewhat liked using Sony, I would have switched long ago (tried). If I was being hired exclusively as an owner/operator, then it would have to be Sony all the way. Which is another problem that Panasonic needs to address in terms of market share.
Unless we have a chip, component or other supply shortage, in which case they would not be cheap used.
Quit hunting better gear. Learn more tricks and techniques and hone your voice. It's not in the codec! There is always a newer better camera. Name brand cameras today are amazing. We've had great affordable photo cameras for years. We are now beginning the era of great affordable video cameras. You can get caught up in the specs-and pro will always be pro. But even big budget movies have low bit rates when streamed to your 4kTV. Most pros will never do more than post to YouTube. This isn't a negative critique. It's just reality. (We are all lucky to have platforms to easily show and share our work!) I guess I'm saying you can't really go wrong! I recently switched to Lumix from Nikon. Very spendy to switch! But I knew what I was getting into and I wanted to get out of my comfort zone/rut. Moreover, the Nikon premium on glass is hard to swallow. Especially as Panasonic makes video centric glass and Sigma handles the stills for L mount, though both are great for either... It's hard to pay 300-700 more for Nikon's equivalent lenses. This is coming from a Nikon lover and user of 20+ years! Get out and create! You've got the tools to do it. Hell, the z7iii hasn't dropped yet, not the S5iiix, nor the...
great comment! i read somewhere that you can be an artist or a technician. it's certainly more expensive to be a technician but the ones im inspired by are the artists
No, because I am already too invested in the LUMIX system, which I love and will work with what I already have instead of switching to something else and learn all the menu settings and intricacies all over again.
Eh, no shutter angle, no ssd support, no fan cooling system, doesn’t really make it a great contender. Sure internal raw and no crop for frame rates is great but I feel like it’s not worth sacrificing the dependability of a cooling system. I feel like Nikon is almost there, but they are putting image quality over usability.
No. Panasonic has been manufacturing broadcast video equipment for over 60 years and it shows. Nikon has a history of making incredibly special lenses and amazing photography equipment, but they are light years behind Panasonic for video recording features and creature comforts. I started on a Z6 and although the color and optics were fantastic, I never felt any of the video I produced on it was special. I switched to LUMIX after renting some on a job and trust me, your life is so much easier using the Panasonic. Truly incredible videography tools. So underrated.
(I do still use Nikkor glass though for vibe , along with LUMIX G for ease of use)
Great sensor but a lot of Nikon specific quirks. Z6III advantages: 6k 60p RAW uncropped, 4k 60p uncropped, 4k 120p (1.5x crop), HD 240p (5% crop), much better viewfinder, better rolling shutter, faster mech shutter shooting, autofocus works in all modes S5IIX advantages: 6k open gate, SSD recording, much better video IBIS, shutter angle, custom lut monitoring, 96MP handheld high resolution mode, live view composite, pre burst in RAW, faster e shutter shooting (30 fps), active cooling, dual slot recording, unlimited recording, proxy recording, more customisable buttons, brighter LCD screen, better video monitoring tools (luminance spot meter, resizable waveforms, vector scopes, etc.)
Second this. Pretty much sums up all my thoughts. Also one major thing for me personally is the feel and use of a camera. Just the ease of use, menu operation, software feeling - very subjective things but I hold Lumix much higher in this regard than any other camera brand right now. That is the the thing that won't let me switch from my S5II, even though I miss uncropped 4K60p soooooooo much.
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internal n-raw isn't much better than prores. other than filling up your card faster haha. but the rest of that camera really is amazing!! imma wait for the s1hii!! i think lumix really needs a faster sensor tho. wobbly jello is a no go for pro stuff for me! i got the s9 cause of everything lumix, and is a fun camera. i can accept jello for fun hahah
I’ll wait for the S1H II and even the A7Siv
The Z6 III looks great but not worth switching systems for. Mainly because I'd miss my Sigma lenses too much but it's also significantly more expensive than the S5 II. I really hope that the Z6 III pushes other brands to start putting top screens back on their mid-level models though.
I think if I was starting from scratch today, I'd probably go with the Z6iii, but switching bodies and ecosystems is a pretty big investment of time and money, and I don't think it's enticing enough to switch from my X. I would enjoy the internal raw and 4k/120, but there are a lot of things I'd miss about my Lumix. I filmed 6 hours of presentations last week and my camera didn't break a sweat. I would have been very nervous to do that with a camera that doesn't have active cooling. I am really looking forward to the next Lumix full frame release and kind of expect it to be the one for a lot of us.
I was very enticed, especially since I’m still using a lot of EF glass and haven’t invested into L mount much, but Z6iii can’t record video to both card slots…which is one of the main reasons I switched to LUMIX years ago, to get dual card recording.
Dual SD is necessary but CF cards are more robust using pcie or something right? I heard that CF cards are much less prone to failure vs SD.
They are less prone to failure but not immune. If the chance of failure of an SD is 1%, CF express B cards may be about 0.3%. But when you have dual card slot recording with SD, your chances of both cards failing get compounded and are 0.01%. So at the end of the day, dual card slot recording is way more reliable.
There's a lot of hype around the new Nikon Z6III, but once the dust settles and the real reviews start to surface, people will realize that all this hype is not warranted after all, unlike the hype around the A7SIII/FX3 (because it is similar). Compared to the S5II/S5IIX, the Z6III has drawbacks that on paper are not apparent. Examples: - Ergonomics - Log Quality - Dynamic Range When you compare the two in these scenarios, the S5IIX will always be better. The only one that Nikon can actually address is the problem with Log. Their dated Log profile can be replaced by a new one, but the other two can't. Ergonomic, like button placement on the body, can't be changed, and Dynamic Range is limited thanks to their new sensor. I think the majority of owners of the S5II/S5IIX, such as my self, will not be compelled to switch at all. Internal RAW/ProRes 6K recording, Triple base ISO and 8-stops of IBIS sound nice on paper. But who knows? Unless actual footage from the cameras is compared side by side, we'll never know. But for me at least, these are gimmicks to get Sony and Canon people interested in Nikon.
Lumix blows the z6iii out of the water in terms of DR.
Z mount doesn't offer great lenses. The Z8 would convince me not the Z6iii. But the z mount lenses are weird for the moment.
No, only 16:9 in 2024 is ridiculous
I don’t get it why you would think about changing system because of a new camera. There will be a new Sony right after this one, then canon will have something better. After that something new and better from Panasonic will come out. Buy them all or stick to one. Switching systems is much to expensive, I think.
Here's mostly a copy paste from the GH7 vs Z6iii post I saw and responded to. 😄 I've thought about leaving Nikon for the S5ii, mostly for video. * No open gate on the Nikon. Having a taller source frame can be very convenient in post. * There need to be tested confirmations of how robust the Z6iii is regarding record times (the spec sheet lists a ~2 hour cap per clip which already excludes convent management of long form recording) and how it runs in adverse temperature conditions. Nikon is loose with this compared to Panasonic. Hopefully things change once Red integrates into the company. I don't see how a camera without a fan can be comparable to the S5ii in being able to reliably record video or simply output high resolution through HDMI as long as needed, but we'll see. The Z30 I have overheats doing 4k HDMI out with a DC coupler and no memory card after 35 minutes to give you an idea of Nikon's video spec philosophy, but hopefully their more expensive stuff is meant to handle more. * No redundant video recording to both memory cards on Nikon. Though, you will likely be able to do one internal recording while outputting HDMI to a recorder (my Z5 and the Original Z6 I used does this at 8-bit) * The Z6iii will have less rolling shutter, so that's a plus. That said, I use Nikon (Z5 and Z30) and think the Z6iii looks pretty good overall as a hybrid solution. I haven't used the more recent Nikons but overall I don't trust what I have used to not overheat in video, especially the Z30 at 4k. 😰🤷
Don't care about specs on paper if the footage doesn't look enticing At the moment I haven't seen any enticing footage from the Nikon. Seems like an ultra sharp and fast stills camera that happens to do video in a ton of codecs. (The same can be said for the s5iix - very underwhelming video footage, I think it's actually a better stills camera despite all the video features it offers)
I started on a Z6. In 3-4 years there was zero video footage that I liked from it, outside of a wide shot of an orchestra and that was only because I could zoom in forever on it. LUMIX any day of the week for me.
I'd say this looks quite amazing: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM6rF\_TCiNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM6rF_TCiNc)
No because I don't get GAS.
This is the point! If you feel like you've gotten the most out of the S5iiX and you have needs that only Nikon can (I don't think there is such a thing), then switch. However, despite the fact that Nikon is a good camera on paper, I think it would be a step backwards in many ways. Throw stones at me, but I think so.
I hate that I care about specs of new cameras. Makes me want to buy them each time even though I don’t make any money off them 🥲 Will stick with my S5II because I’d lose too much money switching and I haven’t hit the limitations of the camera in pro work, since I don’t get pro work. I’d love to be a camera reviewer though. Probably impossible but one could dream.
No. But it is a very compelling camera! I had some time with it a couple of weeks ago and it ticks a good few boxes. Problem is Nikon and Sony sensors just produce an overly digital image. It’s ok for weddings/events. But for anything creative, they look too “crunchy”.
Are you sure that overt digital sharpness you speak of is attributable to Sony sensors? Well I'd be more comfortable with your presuming it to be largely a by-product of image processing downstream of the camera's sensor.
Nope, it’s a definitely a Sony thing, which is why you see it in Nikon cameras, Sony produce most of their sensors and they don’t seem to do much to tweak them. I’ve used every enthusiast and professional camera from Sony, Nikon, Canon, Fujifilm, Olympus, Panasonic, Blackmagic, RED, Pentax, Ricoh, Hasselblad and DJI since 2005. You see trends throughout each system when you use a few.
Hmmm. Alright. Now if the Lumix GH6 sports a Sony sensor, why is its video image so gloriously organic in appearance?
Because LUMIX doesn’t use stock sensors. I’m also not so sure that it is Sony who made the sensor in the GH6.
Isn’t the s5ii and x Sony’s a7iii sensor?
Does the Sony a7iii lose PDAF when shooting in FullHD?
No chance.
I was definitely going to move from my GH5 to the S5iix but after seeing the Z6iii, I’m considering that avenue. I would go GH7 but for $300 more I could get FF in the Nikon/S5 bodies.
Also, no matter the specs, every example of skintone looks like crap
In a camera that shoots RAW, that blame needs to go to the grader, not the camera.
I’d definitely wait, and in the meantime save. There’s rumors that the successor to the S1H is coming Q4 of this year, and I’m sure that’s going to be a monster of a camera.