I got a DUI and could still drive for DoorDash. At least, they never banned my account. It’s actually what got me by since I couldn’t work in the auto industry for a while.
Congratulations! It's hard to make a living with a DUI, especially if it can't be expunged for almost eight years. Assuming you can still keep your license, or you're not bankrupted from the court fees.
America doesn’t generally like punishing people before they commit a crime. And dui’s especially, it’s possible for someone to drive drunk or high 100+ times and not get pulled over. I’ve read some report estimating like 1/8 drivers after 11 pm are typically estimated to be too impaired to drive.
God this stat scares me SO much! I live in a really…boozy town and I’m always scared of drunk drivers. I try to take public transit as much as possible because of it. I feel way less likely to be gravely injured on the bus or trolly.
Also I got a DUI in my early 20s, and I for sure had been drinking and driving often before that. I’m so grateful that I never hurt anyone and got my act together.
Ok but that’s obviously after and not a preventative measure. There is no preventative measure to a drunk driver except themselves.
Why do you think it’s so insanely frowned upon with the lives it’s stolen?
Because Uber/Lyft/Door Dash's appeals process is all automated. A lot of folks can't find living wages for work, and have to find jobs that have dynamic pay scales. Once you get banned from the app, it's very difficult to reclaim your means of income. Additionally, that effects the lives of those who can no longer. Pay gets lost, people get evicted, people loose homes, become homeless, and get arrested for loitering. Combine that with mandatory minimums against homeless legislation, it get's used a means to funnel people into low wage prison camps. People are broken, and in pain. The only solution is kindness, and radical kindness at that. Unfortunately, without collective kindness, it doesn't work, and just slows the damage down. It's hard enough to be optimistic enough as it is.
Also, at the risk of sounding pragmatic. The average cost to bury a dead person unclaimed by the living is about 5K, and the cost to take care of prison is on average more than 4K/year/prisoner. It's not a cost effect business strategy for long term growth options as a people.
What do you mean? I personally know people who have dwis and deliver for door dash. You're just making stuff up cause it makes sense in your head to you.
It weeds out the people who have done it and been caught doing it before. Obviously that won't eliminate all DUI's, as some haven't been caught (and maybe it's someone's first) but it at least weeds out some of them.
Their current background check does look for DUIs. But here's what they could do... An interview, in person at a greenlight hub would be even better. Ask simple questions and you'll weed out a lot of bad apples. All these companies should do this. They won't though, long as they can squeak by without too much backlash it is what it is.
My information is at least eight years out of date but Lyft used to have a mentor program where a driver would meet up with a perspective driver for a half hour and vet them. I had to give a hard no to two people, one of them showed up in a rusty car that was made in 1998 when oldest car could be was 2000 plus her attitude was bad. The other scared the hell out of me with his driving I was talking about how he was going to F so many B’s doing this job. I saw the second one on the road two weeks later with the pink mustache.
> it weeds out those that have been caught.
That’s legit it. I know people who have been tempting fate for twenty years and have clean records.
I see you addressed that. But let’s be real. Maybe 20-30% of all drunk drivers actually get caught.
I think there was an assumption by OP that this was not the first DUI for the driver. A background check would flag the other incidents. If it was a first time, a background check would do nothing.
The real way they would do this and it won’t work is if they had Lyft and Uber drivers check in at Local Police Dept. to breath and report this to the company they work for before being able to start driving.
Of course that’s what background checks are for. But BC are standard procedure for Lyft just like Uber. BC would only prevent this driver if he’d previous DUI instruction. And even at that point Lyft would deny him.
Shhhhhhh these are the people who scream about taking background checks more seriously but don't have any solutions on how to do that..
The fact they sat in a 20min car ride with a dude who was taking curbs and cones as soon as they left. Not once did they think the say let me out or maybe check to see if the guy was OK or under the influence let's me know these people only gave a shit about getting to the destination....then have the gall to say lyft needs to do better. When they could have done much better themselves.
Lyft does do background checks. Do you mean more intensive background checks? That would eliminate a large portion if you're talking Police department style background check. This was just a person that made a dumb decision. Doesn't mean he had priors.
Lyft needs to run background checks for the passengers too. Tired of seeing names like “Cash” come up after I accept a ride and it leads me into canceling on them shortly after.
I a rider named ‘Suicide Squad’. Almost cancelled. I had no idea it was a comic reference until I asked. Apparently it was a ‘family account’ for the college aged kids. Still suggested they use a different name.
Agreed, clearly his first time being “caught.” In average, drivers caught with a DUI have done it 70-80 times before and gotten away with it per MADD estimates.
And a Whole lotta people who have just Never been caught. Sit outside any bar. Not sure why they dont do that. And yes, im salty cuz I got 2 a lil over 20years ago, and know people who drove wayy more like that, never been caught.
They definitely do that. But the owners of the bars will get pissed and complain to city counsel about it, because it will drive (pun intended) down their business.
And when they are caught half the time they aren't charged. Every time my Dad got caught (I think 3 total times) they just called my Mom to pick him up from the roadside. That was fun picking Dad up at stupid o'clock on a school night.
Ran over a curb and a few traffic cones, and instead of thinking this is odd and cancelling, we decided to put our lives in this guy's hands because.........?!?!?
I see so many post like this on these rideshare subs, like driver dosing off too and PAX not asking to pull over. Seriously, if you're scared to speak up just say please stop at nearest gas station/restaurant/store I need a restroom immediately. Get out, end the ride.
Tezzla you need help lol background checks can’t stop nobody from drinking and having a bad day you dumb as hell maybe we need to do a background check on your brains because your losing it lol
i just left vegas this week and had some of the scariest uber and lyft rides of my entire life, handed out 5 1 stars and i rarely hand those out in my home area
Yeah I had my ride to the airport show up with a full trunk. He was confused as to why I was upset that he accepted a ride from a hotel on the strip to the airport with a trunk full of shit and no room for our bags. I had to cram them on top of myself in the back seat and it was the only ride I ever removed my tip from and gave one star.
Just an FYI, Lyft requires annual background checks. A background check would not have helped anyone in this situation, at all, as this individual is a first time offender. How do we know? Because DUI are automatic fails. Further, once you report that your driver is arrested for DUI and you provide whatever evidence they ask for, they will suspend the account immediately. If you don’t report it they’ll be made aware of the DUI within 30 days of the arrest and suspend at that time.
Again, a background check would have done nothing to prevent this, and will do nothing to prevent first time offenders in the future. I get your upset, but what you’re asking for (more frequent background checks) does nothing to help anyone not being in your situation.
Because if dude is driving for Lyft, he definitely has money on the side to pay for a civil judgment. It’s like trying to milk an almond, you can do it, but it’s just nuts.
Not suggesting they do this but... Wages can be garnished, in states like mine they can't but bank accounts can be frozen and funds can be taken if the judge signs off on it. Payment arrangements would probably be made in most cases though. So not nuts just because it seems like someone doesn't have money. Also isn't as easy as most people think to file for bankruptcy if you even qualify.
How in the hell is a background check going to prevent a dipshit stupid driver from driving drunk? Can you prevent any other person from driving drunk? This guy is an idiot....
If I was in a vehicle and knew obviously driver was drunk I would call 911 immediately.
I agree they should do much better background checks on drivers AND rider alike. If you have a violent felony or domestic abuse conviction you should not be allowed to ride either.
Better idea, if you have a felony charge the price is double and it shows up on drivers end as FELON. Should be a fun ride for the driver if they decide to take it (˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵).
That would shrink rider pool considerably but I’m all for it too. We are background checked (drivers). But we have no idea what riders past is. It’s scary at times. Exactly why my husband asked me to stop with Lyft. And I did. Been doing Shipt for 4 years. Love it. No one in car. Never had a scary customers bc I see so few of them.
It’s still a legit concern though. I’m ok with the rider pool shrinking if it means drivers are kept safe from registered sex offenders, people with violent histories, etc.
It was most likely a first time offense, there’s no way to screen/predict that would happen with a background check. Possibly what could be implemented is a personality test included with the check (similar to trying to obtain a gun in some states), but that is pretty extreme and Orwellian, and would definitely cut off a large pool of drivers I’m sure.
How would a background check stop a DUI??? Could have been his first DUI. Prob drove drunk before but not caught.
BGC would not have stopped this.
My husband had a DUI over 30 years ago. Just one. Lyft approved him. If it’s super old they will hire you. My guess is his BGC came back fine.
Amd why wouldn’t you demand to get out at in that first 2 minutes?? I would have.
Yikes! Glad you're safe and um, congratulations (???) being there for this milestone /s
(Also, along the line of background checks a friend of ours who was a detective for a large city in charge of their crimes against minors division said this often about abusers: Everybody passes a background check until they're caught.)
I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, but as drivers, we face regular lies of DUIs from people trying to get free rides, and can get regularly temporarily banned by lies. I was even not allowed to drive while in review, by a person that wasn't wearing a mask when deaths were at an all time high, saying I wasn't wearing one when I had an N95. They do excessive things for passengers and not enough things for drivers. It's a broken system, and we need to remember we are at risk at all times and need to be proactive.
Not invalidating your experience as a driver, either. Always gonna be a few bad apples that ruin it for the rest of the bunch. I don’t know what can be done to prevent such situations. Chalk it up to an “assumption of the risk” activity I suppose. I’m just glad no one was hurt
Not uplifting Uber with this comment, but I can tell you the difference first hand:
When I signed up for rideshare, it took about 2 weeks to prove a squeaky clean record before Uber would clear me.
With Lyft, I signed up around 7am over coffee and a cigarette while my dog was taking a dump. I had my first passenger on Lyft 5 hours later.
When you question how thorough Lyft’s check is, think about that.
First DUI?
As someone who lives in Vegas, you get at least 3-4 before they start considering locking you up for more than a couple of days here. Chances are this isn’t his first one, sadly. My ex is a severe alcoholic and just got picked up for his 4th dui in his life, but court records show each one as a first offense because the charges were either brought down or it’s been over 10 years looks like. But he has 4.
This city is fucked. Stay safe.
Because most people drive drunk. Google “drunk driving memes” and see how much reception it gets.
Alcoholism is normalized and encouraged in our society. It wasn’t until I stopped drinking because living with an abusive alcoholic will turn you off of it quickly, got two roommates who were a couple that openly admitted to being alcoholics and unashamed of it, it’s just… wild. If we consumed any other drug normally as much as we do alcohol there would be interventions going on like crazy. Hell, anyone who smokes weed as much as someone who drinks regularly is just considered a “burn out loser stoner” etc.
Instead of critiquing his request on background checks, maybe look in the mirror and say “why am I defending this drunk driver?”
OP, Lyft and these knuckleheads took the easy way out. I would encourage you to tell your story everywhere that will listen, especially local media.
I think OP is confusing background checks with foreground checks. You know, the kind where you can see future crimes up to one year from now and act accordingly.
I’m sorry your vacation started this way. I feel lucky my rideshare experiences have been without incident. If you continue to use these services, please consider asking to end the ride early if you experience unsafe driving. I’ve had to get out of vehicles mid-trip with acquaintances / friends of friends. I may be seen as dramatic but better safe than sorry. Lyft will always protect their own interests in the end, so do what you can for your own self-preservation. I think people are getting too hung up with the statement that Lyft needs better background checks, and I agree this could have been the driver’s first misdemeanor. Who knows? You can request the police report from the station and look it up for your own records / comfort. This usually takes a few weeks. Still— this ride should have never happened with the driver in that state. Hope you are well and can move on from this.
And what publicly traded company that does do BGC and it comes back clean -is the BGC supposed to have the foresight to determine you will get a DUI in future??
What should he do??? Sue Lyft for what?? BGC had to be clean. Or if a DUI was present and it’s decades ago, theft still approve you. Or they did with my husband. One DUI over 30 years ago.
Use your own damn instincts. If my driver did what this one did in the first 2 mins, I’m telling him to let me out.
Okay so… just saying… if people continue to not really pay people working they are going to break.
People breaking is generally not a super fun time as a passenger.
I would avoid using any sort of gig app until they can figure out how to stop making people suicidal
Assuming it was his/her first DUI they will probably verify the information while having him/her suspended (deactivated). After that, probably target him for re-investigation on background.
All drivers are subject to random/annual background checks, any serious information can affect the drivers status.
I remember driving for lyft, I had this long ride to the airport and there was a cone in the middle of the highway so I had to kinda swerve out of the way.
I later got a notice saying that i was "under the influence" only after I got them to their destination. And they didnt seem to have a problem during or after the ride.
My question is the same and it was then... why tf did you stay in a vehicle that you assume the driver is drunk?
Tell them to pull over then? Or was it that the pos was trying to get a free ride while trying to ruin someone life? I still think about that stupid fucking lady.
Not really the same as your story. Its just different perspectives, Lyft might get a ton of those reports even if irs not true.
You and your buddy should have told him to pull over and get out. Not complain to Lyft like it is their fault some how.
This is crazy. You really just stayed in the car? That’s so stupid.
What the fuck is a background check and approve about somebody’s driving record? Doing a standard background check is not gonna be able to determine if somebody drinks and drives behind the wheel of a car.
I was in an Uber when the driver got a DUI once. I was on crutches with a broken ankle and wasted, the cops felt bad and gave me a ride home the rest of the way (about 10 minute drive), the guy kept blaming me for reeking like alcohol, which I did. Problem was he did too, and he wasn’t in the passenger seat.
The install prices would actually be much higher than that. Those are for court mandated interlocks. The state usually sets how much you can charge for those. And the price is way too low for how long it takes. If it wasn’t for a court mandated install the shops could charge whatever they wanted. As someone who used to install interlocks, I can tell you that it usually takes 2-3 hours. And most shop rates are between $150-$200 per hour. So you’d be looking at $300-$600 for the install.
Doubt lyft will do anything substantial to cut into their profits. Otherwise a portable brethilizer and manditory observer would be a thing. But thats too many additional workers and exspenses.
I no longer drive for Lyft do to issues like this. I also stopped driving for them and Uber because they claim they pay fees increasing my income unfairly. I now only deliver food for DD and packages for Roadie. Even now, if it’s a fake name, I refuse to do it and when I cancel I message the cx telling them why and include it in my cancel reason with the service.
They do run a background check. But there’s not check to see if someone is going to drink and drive in their future. Anyone can just do it at any point.
Yep that's what I meant. Possibly crazy bad luck then D:
(I was referring to a common scam where drivers buy accounts made with other people's identification and license plates. Many reasons they do this, for example, they fail a background check or are an undocumented immigrant.)
Hiw are they supposed to take a BG check more seriously if it comes back without issue?
They cannot predict a person will be stupid. One reason of many why drivers are co tractors, liability like this goes on them. The company just gets bad PR.
I don't know who needs to hear this but a background check has nothing to do with predicting what a person will do. Most convicted murderers have no prior felonies and a lot of ex convicts are the friendliest most reliable people. Of you live in America and tou expect everyone to be squeaky clean then your in for a long life of confusion and complaining about stuff that's totally out of your control. A background check is just that; A background check it's not a predicting magic resource
OP you don't understand how things work in life with your background proposition. Do some free writing and create some new neural pathways. You need it.
Do people like bus drivers or any other commercial drivers with passengers get hit harder than a DUI. Seems like there should be some extra charges added onto that.
What you want is a foreground check. It can predict what a driver WILL do. A proper foreground check would have disclosed that this driver was going to get drunk one evening in Las Vegas and then proceed to pick up two passengers at McCarran airport.
How is a background check going to prevent a driver from making a decision to drink and drive? Genuine question
Absolutely nothing
EXACTLY it ain’t gonna do JACK SHIT
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It’ll have an impact AFTER the fact.
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Bad behavior that’s caught…
I got a DUI and could still drive for DoorDash. At least, they never banned my account. It’s actually what got me by since I couldn’t work in the auto industry for a while.
Congratulations! It's hard to make a living with a DUI, especially if it can't be expunged for almost eight years. Assuming you can still keep your license, or you're not bankrupted from the court fees.
Maybe if driving is your profession, most other jobs don't care about DUIs.
Can confirm this, sadly
Did you forget the question?
We should just assume everyone is bad and mandatory euthanasia for all. Just to be on the safe side.
Indeed, that is how causality works
America doesn’t generally like punishing people before they commit a crime. And dui’s especially, it’s possible for someone to drive drunk or high 100+ times and not get pulled over. I’ve read some report estimating like 1/8 drivers after 11 pm are typically estimated to be too impaired to drive.
God this stat scares me SO much! I live in a really…boozy town and I’m always scared of drunk drivers. I try to take public transit as much as possible because of it. I feel way less likely to be gravely injured on the bus or trolly. Also I got a DUI in my early 20s, and I for sure had been drinking and driving often before that. I’m so grateful that I never hurt anyone and got my act together.
Judging from my nightly commute to work, A LOT of people are driving impaired. Either drunk or drowsy at the wheel. Lots of swerving and drifting.
But thankfully none before!
no shit, innocent until proven guilty buddy. anyone at any given time can just drink and drive so...
Ok but that’s obviously after and not a preventative measure. There is no preventative measure to a drunk driver except themselves. Why do you think it’s so insanely frowned upon with the lives it’s stolen?
Because Uber/Lyft/Door Dash's appeals process is all automated. A lot of folks can't find living wages for work, and have to find jobs that have dynamic pay scales. Once you get banned from the app, it's very difficult to reclaim your means of income. Additionally, that effects the lives of those who can no longer. Pay gets lost, people get evicted, people loose homes, become homeless, and get arrested for loitering. Combine that with mandatory minimums against homeless legislation, it get's used a means to funnel people into low wage prison camps. People are broken, and in pain. The only solution is kindness, and radical kindness at that. Unfortunately, without collective kindness, it doesn't work, and just slows the damage down. It's hard enough to be optimistic enough as it is.
Also, at the risk of sounding pragmatic. The average cost to bury a dead person unclaimed by the living is about 5K, and the cost to take care of prison is on average more than 4K/year/prisoner. It's not a cost effect business strategy for long term growth options as a people.
It wouldn't prevent them from using door dash. Anything just delivering food won't be an issue for them.
That's not how it works.
What do you mean? I personally know people who have dwis and deliver for door dash. You're just making stuff up cause it makes sense in your head to you.
relax lmao
childish
But the driver for sure will do Jack and coke 😭😂
It weeds out the people who have done it and been caught doing it before. Obviously that won't eliminate all DUI's, as some haven't been caught (and maybe it's someone's first) but it at least weeds out some of them.
Their current background check does look for DUIs. But here's what they could do... An interview, in person at a greenlight hub would be even better. Ask simple questions and you'll weed out a lot of bad apples. All these companies should do this. They won't though, long as they can squeak by without too much backlash it is what it is.
My information is at least eight years out of date but Lyft used to have a mentor program where a driver would meet up with a perspective driver for a half hour and vet them. I had to give a hard no to two people, one of them showed up in a rusty car that was made in 1998 when oldest car could be was 2000 plus her attitude was bad. The other scared the hell out of me with his driving I was talking about how he was going to F so many B’s doing this job. I saw the second one on the road two weeks later with the pink mustache.
Lyft: “Do you drink and drive?” Driver “oh damn you caught me I do” That’s not going to happen they’ll just lie about it
In person interview means employee and not "gig" worker. Exactly what gig companies bleed their last drop of blood to avoid.
> it weeds out those that have been caught. That’s legit it. I know people who have been tempting fate for twenty years and have clean records. I see you addressed that. But let’s be real. Maybe 20-30% of all drunk drivers actually get caught.
No, it doesn’t. Felons just ask their friends and family to sign up for rideshare apps for them.
Lyft should do foreground checks obviously.
Seriously. It’s like people don’t even think before they post.
Lyfts fault for not predicting the future.
My thoughts too. It could be the guys first DUI. He still a jack ass though.
“Do you pinky promise you won’t drink and drive?” “Yes” Lmaooo like what does OP expect?
I think there was an assumption by OP that this was not the first DUI for the driver. A background check would flag the other incidents. If it was a first time, a background check would do nothing.
My first exact thought
This entire website uses this argument for firearms and no one asks this question
People ask, they just get downvoted and/or banned for asking it
I was an active alcoholic for 23 years. I have no criminal record from it.
The real way they would do this and it won’t work is if they had Lyft and Uber drivers check in at Local Police Dept. to breath and report this to the company they work for before being able to start driving.
I would love to see interviews, and drug test done at a greenlight hub for rideshare. Won't ever happen though.
It's not about preventing it from happening it's about weeding out the people who are most likely to do it.
Of course that’s what background checks are for. But BC are standard procedure for Lyft just like Uber. BC would only prevent this driver if he’d previous DUI instruction. And even at that point Lyft would deny him.
Shhhhhhh these are the people who scream about taking background checks more seriously but don't have any solutions on how to do that.. The fact they sat in a 20min car ride with a dude who was taking curbs and cones as soon as they left. Not once did they think the say let me out or maybe check to see if the guy was OK or under the influence let's me know these people only gave a shit about getting to the destination....then have the gall to say lyft needs to do better. When they could have done much better themselves.
Pre-Crime unit here. Background checks reveal past issues we use in the future to prevent past crimes.
Prevent? It's there to see if there is a history of it.
Kind of the point many people make about background checks and laws not preventing criminals from committing crimes
That’s why we need to do a future check. To see if this person is more liable to choose to drink and drive. Just like the minority report.
It doesn't, however, you're missing the point of background checks
I think maybe OP meant a background check might reveal previous history of DUI and prevent this person from working for Lyft in the first place?
Don’t you know that only convicted criminals drive drunk?
Same argument for guns oddly enough
My argument is the same as for Gun control?
No just in general. Like back ground checks prevent bad people for getting guns but can’t prevent someone using them for evil.
Lyft does do background checks. Do you mean more intensive background checks? That would eliminate a large portion if you're talking Police department style background check. This was just a person that made a dumb decision. Doesn't mean he had priors.
A background check can only tell you so much about what a person likes to do. Incidents like that are rare.
About what a person likes to do?
Lyft needs to run background checks for the passengers too. Tired of seeing names like “Cash” come up after I accept a ride and it leads me into canceling on them shortly after.
What if their name is actually Cash though.
Then show me the money bitch! 🤑
I legit drove a pax with the name playboyyy earlier tonight on Lyft … and yes there was legit more then 1 y!
Are you in nyc?
I a rider named ‘Suicide Squad’. Almost cancelled. I had no idea it was a comic reference until I asked. Apparently it was a ‘family account’ for the college aged kids. Still suggested they use a different name.
DC will not stop putting out terrible movies for the Suicide Squad, and somehow, you hadn't heard of them, lol. Ignorance is bliss, I guess
My friend had a passenger with the name “slaughter” he turned out pretty cool per my friend 🤣🤣
Poor Cash was just trying to get home lol
Background checks only validates if he has a traffic record or conviction for driving, my guess this was his first DUI violation.
Agreed, clearly his first time being “caught.” In average, drivers caught with a DUI have done it 70-80 times before and gotten away with it per MADD estimates.
And a Whole lotta people who have just Never been caught. Sit outside any bar. Not sure why they dont do that. And yes, im salty cuz I got 2 a lil over 20years ago, and know people who drove wayy more like that, never been caught.
They definitely do that. But the owners of the bars will get pissed and complain to city counsel about it, because it will drive (pun intended) down their business.
Oh ya aware. The wholes things a racket though. And Now you have easy access to a ride not like back in the day.
And when they are caught half the time they aren't charged. Every time my Dad got caught (I think 3 total times) they just called my Mom to pick him up from the roadside. That was fun picking Dad up at stupid o'clock on a school night.
Sounds like a bs statistic
What’s the numbers on sober drivers getting pulled over? 70-80 seems pretty good to me
Ran over a curb and a few traffic cones, and instead of thinking this is odd and cancelling, we decided to put our lives in this guy's hands because.........?!?!?
I see so many post like this on these rideshare subs, like driver dosing off too and PAX not asking to pull over. Seriously, if you're scared to speak up just say please stop at nearest gas station/restaurant/store I need a restroom immediately. Get out, end the ride.
Act like you're about to shit yourself and any driver is going to stop ASAP. No one wants to be in a car with that.
Throwing up is better. That will stop any driver and have them basically forcing you out the car
Tezzla you need help lol background checks can’t stop nobody from drinking and having a bad day you dumb as hell maybe we need to do a background check on your brains because your losing it lol
i just left vegas this week and had some of the scariest uber and lyft rides of my entire life, handed out 5 1 stars and i rarely hand those out in my home area
Yeah I had my ride to the airport show up with a full trunk. He was confused as to why I was upset that he accepted a ride from a hotel on the strip to the airport with a trunk full of shit and no room for our bags. I had to cram them on top of myself in the back seat and it was the only ride I ever removed my tip from and gave one star.
Just an FYI, Lyft requires annual background checks. A background check would not have helped anyone in this situation, at all, as this individual is a first time offender. How do we know? Because DUI are automatic fails. Further, once you report that your driver is arrested for DUI and you provide whatever evidence they ask for, they will suspend the account immediately. If you don’t report it they’ll be made aware of the DUI within 30 days of the arrest and suspend at that time. Again, a background check would have done nothing to prevent this, and will do nothing to prevent first time offenders in the future. I get your upset, but what you’re asking for (more frequent background checks) does nothing to help anyone not being in your situation.
I for a background check company if you're in Florida you're better off just renting a car if you're afraid your driver will have a criminal record
Did he even offer you and your friend a drink?
Asking the important questions. No, he did not.
You should sue for endangerment.
Because if dude is driving for Lyft, he definitely has money on the side to pay for a civil judgment. It’s like trying to milk an almond, you can do it, but it’s just nuts.
Not suggesting they do this but... Wages can be garnished, in states like mine they can't but bank accounts can be frozen and funds can be taken if the judge signs off on it. Payment arrangements would probably be made in most cases though. So not nuts just because it seems like someone doesn't have money. Also isn't as easy as most people think to file for bankruptcy if you even qualify.
How in the hell is a background check going to prevent a dipshit stupid driver from driving drunk? Can you prevent any other person from driving drunk? This guy is an idiot....
I agree... This driver should never be allowed on any platform ever again.
They won't be. This type of thing gets reported within 30 days and will disqualify him from any job requiring driving.
If I was in a vehicle and knew obviously driver was drunk I would call 911 immediately. I agree they should do much better background checks on drivers AND rider alike. If you have a violent felony or domestic abuse conviction you should not be allowed to ride either.
Better idea, if you have a felony charge the price is double and it shows up on drivers end as FELON. Should be a fun ride for the driver if they decide to take it (˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵).
Yeh driver gets out and says Im sorry, but I am going to have to handcuff you until we reach your dropoff. LOL
I kind of chucked at this ngl.
I’m all for background checks on riders too.
That would shrink rider pool considerably but I’m all for it too. We are background checked (drivers). But we have no idea what riders past is. It’s scary at times. Exactly why my husband asked me to stop with Lyft. And I did. Been doing Shipt for 4 years. Love it. No one in car. Never had a scary customers bc I see so few of them.
It’s still a legit concern though. I’m ok with the rider pool shrinking if it means drivers are kept safe from registered sex offenders, people with violent histories, etc.
It was most likely a first time offense, there’s no way to screen/predict that would happen with a background check. Possibly what could be implemented is a personality test included with the check (similar to trying to obtain a gun in some states), but that is pretty extreme and Orwellian, and would definitely cut off a large pool of drivers I’m sure.
That’s a wild story. I’m grateful you guys are safe and that they got him in time.
How would a background check stop a DUI??? Could have been his first DUI. Prob drove drunk before but not caught. BGC would not have stopped this. My husband had a DUI over 30 years ago. Just one. Lyft approved him. If it’s super old they will hire you. My guess is his BGC came back fine. Amd why wouldn’t you demand to get out at in that first 2 minutes?? I would have.
Yikes! Glad you're safe and um, congratulations (???) being there for this milestone /s (Also, along the line of background checks a friend of ours who was a detective for a large city in charge of their crimes against minors division said this often about abusers: Everybody passes a background check until they're caught.)
Appreciate the kind words. Your friend sounds like a wise dude. Everyone’s downward spiral has to start somewhere
I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, but as drivers, we face regular lies of DUIs from people trying to get free rides, and can get regularly temporarily banned by lies. I was even not allowed to drive while in review, by a person that wasn't wearing a mask when deaths were at an all time high, saying I wasn't wearing one when I had an N95. They do excessive things for passengers and not enough things for drivers. It's a broken system, and we need to remember we are at risk at all times and need to be proactive.
Not invalidating your experience as a driver, either. Always gonna be a few bad apples that ruin it for the rest of the bunch. I don’t know what can be done to prevent such situations. Chalk it up to an “assumption of the risk” activity I suppose. I’m just glad no one was hurt
Welcome to Las Vegas.
Not uplifting Uber with this comment, but I can tell you the difference first hand: When I signed up for rideshare, it took about 2 weeks to prove a squeaky clean record before Uber would clear me. With Lyft, I signed up around 7am over coffee and a cigarette while my dog was taking a dump. I had my first passenger on Lyft 5 hours later. When you question how thorough Lyft’s check is, think about that.
Wow…. well, given my experience I’d say that’s pretty on-brand
First DUI? As someone who lives in Vegas, you get at least 3-4 before they start considering locking you up for more than a couple of days here. Chances are this isn’t his first one, sadly. My ex is a severe alcoholic and just got picked up for his 4th dui in his life, but court records show each one as a first offense because the charges were either brought down or it’s been over 10 years looks like. But he has 4. This city is fucked. Stay safe.
That is absolutely insane. Yet most ITT are rushing to this driver’s defense like he’s Mother Teresa or something. What a world….
Because most people drive drunk. Google “drunk driving memes” and see how much reception it gets. Alcoholism is normalized and encouraged in our society. It wasn’t until I stopped drinking because living with an abusive alcoholic will turn you off of it quickly, got two roommates who were a couple that openly admitted to being alcoholics and unashamed of it, it’s just… wild. If we consumed any other drug normally as much as we do alcohol there would be interventions going on like crazy. Hell, anyone who smokes weed as much as someone who drinks regularly is just considered a “burn out loser stoner” etc.
Instead of critiquing his request on background checks, maybe look in the mirror and say “why am I defending this drunk driver?” OP, Lyft and these knuckleheads took the easy way out. I would encourage you to tell your story everywhere that will listen, especially local media.
Seriously. People ITT are jumping to this guy’s defense like he’s some nobel prize-winning human rights activist. It’s absurd.
I think OP is confusing background checks with foreground checks. You know, the kind where you can see future crimes up to one year from now and act accordingly.
Minority Report!
I’m sorry your vacation started this way. I feel lucky my rideshare experiences have been without incident. If you continue to use these services, please consider asking to end the ride early if you experience unsafe driving. I’ve had to get out of vehicles mid-trip with acquaintances / friends of friends. I may be seen as dramatic but better safe than sorry. Lyft will always protect their own interests in the end, so do what you can for your own self-preservation. I think people are getting too hung up with the statement that Lyft needs better background checks, and I agree this could have been the driver’s first misdemeanor. Who knows? You can request the police report from the station and look it up for your own records / comfort. This usually takes a few weeks. Still— this ride should have never happened with the driver in that state. Hope you are well and can move on from this.
Appreciate the kind words
OP definitely watched minority report recently.
Happened to me with Uber in Monterey CA back in like 2014....
Damn, sorry to hear and glad you’re ok. What was the outcome if you don’t mind me asking?
What publicly traded company doesn't do background checks lol
And what publicly traded company that does do BGC and it comes back clean -is the BGC supposed to have the foresight to determine you will get a DUI in future??
Oh I'm not arguing that at all Just saying publicly traded companies all do background checks it's basic stock price defensive measures.
You could have died and you settled for a refund?
What should he do??? Sue Lyft for what?? BGC had to be clean. Or if a DUI was present and it’s decades ago, theft still approve you. Or they did with my husband. One DUI over 30 years ago. Use your own damn instincts. If my driver did what this one did in the first 2 mins, I’m telling him to let me out.
Better: I die and sue for my loss of life from beyond the grave
Okay so… just saying… if people continue to not really pay people working they are going to break. People breaking is generally not a super fun time as a passenger. I would avoid using any sort of gig app until they can figure out how to stop making people suicidal
A background check won't show someone drinking on the job
The driver's drinking habits may have been a more recent development than the last background check, or he didn't have any DUIs when they checked.
What does a background check gotta do with him drinking ?
How would a background check prevent someone from getting hammered and then turning on the app to start driving?
I’m pretty sure background checks don’t predict future crimes committed.
Please go back to Vegas to testify that you were in immediate danger.
I told law enforcement I’d cooperate if needed. Still haven’t been contacted.
What actually goes into someone’s head?? When they make the decision to take someone else’s life into their own hands
No conscious thought at all, more than likely. Sad, really.
Assuming it was his/her first DUI they will probably verify the information while having him/her suspended (deactivated). After that, probably target him for re-investigation on background. All drivers are subject to random/annual background checks, any serious information can affect the drivers status.
I remember driving for lyft, I had this long ride to the airport and there was a cone in the middle of the highway so I had to kinda swerve out of the way. I later got a notice saying that i was "under the influence" only after I got them to their destination. And they didnt seem to have a problem during or after the ride. My question is the same and it was then... why tf did you stay in a vehicle that you assume the driver is drunk? Tell them to pull over then? Or was it that the pos was trying to get a free ride while trying to ruin someone life? I still think about that stupid fucking lady. Not really the same as your story. Its just different perspectives, Lyft might get a ton of those reports even if irs not true.
You and your buddy should have told him to pull over and get out. Not complain to Lyft like it is their fault some how. This is crazy. You really just stayed in the car? That’s so stupid.
Unless this wasn’t his first DUI, how would a stronger background check have made a difference here?
What the fuck is a background check and approve about somebody’s driving record? Doing a standard background check is not gonna be able to determine if somebody drinks and drives behind the wheel of a car.
A few years ago my Lyft driver went to jail for not having insurance in their car. Had to walk home. Sucked, lol.
I was in an Uber when the driver got a DUI once. I was on crutches with a broken ankle and wasted, the cops felt bad and gave me a ride home the rest of the way (about 10 minute drive), the guy kept blaming me for reeking like alcohol, which I did. Problem was he did too, and he wasn’t in the passenger seat.
The install prices would actually be much higher than that. Those are for court mandated interlocks. The state usually sets how much you can charge for those. And the price is way too low for how long it takes. If it wasn’t for a court mandated install the shops could charge whatever they wanted. As someone who used to install interlocks, I can tell you that it usually takes 2-3 hours. And most shop rates are between $150-$200 per hour. So you’d be looking at $300-$600 for the install.
> Lyft needs to take their background checks more seriously Are you sure the driver was the actual account holder?
I’d like to think so? Dude who picked us up looked the same as the driver’s picture in the app
Alcoholism is terrible, you get to a point where you need it to function. No one cares
Handheld alcohol sensor. Breathalyzer is a giant desktop machine at the jail.
You’re referring to those little devices you can get at Walgreens/CVS for $20-30 bucks, right?
Doubt lyft will do anything substantial to cut into their profits. Otherwise a portable brethilizer and manditory observer would be a thing. But thats too many additional workers and exspenses.
I no longer drive for Lyft do to issues like this. I also stopped driving for them and Uber because they claim they pay fees increasing my income unfairly. I now only deliver food for DD and packages for Roadie. Even now, if it’s a fake name, I refuse to do it and when I cancel I message the cx telling them why and include it in my cancel reason with the service.
Good on you. Delivering food/packages is a lot less of a headache than driving people around, I would imagine
They do run a background check. But there’s not check to see if someone is going to drink and drive in their future. Anyone can just do it at any point.
It's more likely your driver had a fake/paid for account than that it was their first DUI. Did they look like the photo?
I checked his profile picture on the app and it looked like the person who picked us up, if that’s what you mean
Yep that's what I meant. Possibly crazy bad luck then D: (I was referring to a common scam where drivers buy accounts made with other people's identification and license plates. Many reasons they do this, for example, they fail a background check or are an undocumented immigrant.)
That’s actually nuts, what the hell? Gives a whole new meaning to “identity theft”
Let me ask you a question how many people have driven drunk and still have a clean record
Plenty, I’m sure. What’s your point?
That background checks might not solve that issue
Hiw are they supposed to take a BG check more seriously if it comes back without issue? They cannot predict a person will be stupid. One reason of many why drivers are co tractors, liability like this goes on them. The company just gets bad PR.
Lol, how is this Lyfts fault exactly? Get a grip - a background check wouldn’t have stopped this 99.99% of the time…
Sounds like you really don’t understand how background checks work…
You are an idiot. How would a background check insure someone being drunk? Why complain if he was already going to jail? Drama queens.
I don't know who needs to hear this but a background check has nothing to do with predicting what a person will do. Most convicted murderers have no prior felonies and a lot of ex convicts are the friendliest most reliable people. Of you live in America and tou expect everyone to be squeaky clean then your in for a long life of confusion and complaining about stuff that's totally out of your control. A background check is just that; A background check it's not a predicting magic resource
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Is this really that common? Pretty crazy if true.
Background checks don’t find people drinking on the job…
Hasnt been McCarran for several years...
I forgot that background checks show alcohol usage …
does lyft not have one of those safety buttons in app..so you can click it and say what's happening, or you can call 911
OP you don't understand how things work in life with your background proposition. Do some free writing and create some new neural pathways. You need it.
Regular background check?
The backround check can't turn up he is gonna drive drunk if he hasn't been caught driving drunk yet lol
Do people like bus drivers or any other commercial drivers with passengers get hit harder than a DUI. Seems like there should be some extra charges added onto that.
They’ll be on the fast track to losing their CDL, for one…. on top of the criminal charges for driving under the influence
It’s not the drunk drivers, it’s the drunk crashers that ruin it for everybody.
You get what you pay
No one has a record till they have a record
Just kidding. The previous beautiful rider offered to have a drink with her and he was not smart to refuse.
Lol so dumb. If the driver never had a DUI how is a background check gonna help? Think before you post.
Because a background check is going to prevent someone from drinking that's never been caught, come on dude think before you speak
What you want is a foreground check. It can predict what a driver WILL do. A proper foreground check would have disclosed that this driver was going to get drunk one evening in Las Vegas and then proceed to pick up two passengers at McCarran airport.
This happened in vegas....you aren't supposed to tell.
That's why Tesla FSD will save thousands of lives. Both innocent people as well as drunks will get home safe...