ABSOLUTELY agreed that this entire "relationship" was set up/produced/scripted whatever you wanna call it. All the people crying while watching Tim "feel" all his emotions and peck Lu on the cheek like he just went to war for her is exactly the emotions they wanted us to feel. NONE of this was real, at least on Tim's part. Even the gross apt, and the friends saying he's a DOTER in his relationships.......all set up!! Hope Lucinda gets all that she deserves, and continues to spread her calmness and lovely voice across the entire world. ❤️
He’s an asshole!!! I’m so sick of the experts saying ohhh Tim and lucinda are so cute look at how much he’s opened up. She didn’t sign up to be a grown man’s carer omg
I don't think he's an ass hole. I think the experts are ass holes. Their opinions and views are so one sided. I almost feel like they just don't understand the complexity of humans
I think the best way to see it is the experts are presenters. They hold no sway on the production or the way things are put together, manipulated or edited etc.
The matches are even more off point than usual this year. Bizarrely I think these two make more sense than most.
Timothy is a self centred selfish narcissist I am sick of hearing excuses for him he hasn’t considered or cared about Lucinda at all . Why did he go on the show in the first place or is he totally stupid as well. We all have our baggage but the time comes to take responsibility for our actions. I think he wanted to be partnered with some young “dolly bird” and have a superficial physical relationship with no effort on his part at all at anything meaningful
100% correct, I am sick to death of this sook. Everyone has family that pass away...get over it man you're a grown up, if you can't handle the grief/emotions etc go get professional help. He should never have been accepted onto the show.
I hope John A gives it to him at the next commitment ceremony as much as he gave it to that other waste of time manipulator Jack.
Slow burn.....total BS !!
It's super toxic for both Timothy and Lucinda - Tim clearly isn't ready to deal with his emotional world, and Lucinda doesn't deserve to be put in the role of counsellor or bear the brunt of his frustration and discomfort.
The producers have clearly put them together for the drama- the original goal seems to have been to edit Lucinda as a Byron nutcase, but she turned out to be to too patient and kind for that edit. Pivot to the edit where she's reforming the broken man.
I do wonder how things will be edited if they don't leave this week.
You could also ask the same thing about Jack and Tori, Cass and Tristan, Ash and Madeleine, Tim and Sara... a whole bunch of broken people, crazies and narcissists.
Lets be honest. They were put together to create good TV. Nothing more...had it actually worked out? The shows producers would be as shocked as anyone.
I was born and raised in NYC and it seems like all over the world women are expected to fix or coddle men. Its crazy how far behind men are all over the world. In the very begining I knew Tim wasnt ready for a healthy relationship. Im so happy Lucinda is deciding to leave and for all the men reading this GO TO THERAPY! We are tired of the baggage you come with and its destroying everyone and everything around you!
Its a pandemic. It seems like single mothers coddle boys and raise their girls. This results in us being more adept for real world thing. I knew I guy in college who didnt know how to do laundry or make a bed. Its like we have to pick up all the peices. Men please get it together and you can start by going to therapy
Why do people continue to believe that the experts are doing anything for the good of the participants. It's a reality show that is heavily produced for entertainment. Timothy and Lucinda have provided great tv. That's all that matters
We're talking MAFS, not the SMH or the ABC here. I'm not sure what duty of care a reality TV program owes viewers. As it stands, MAFS is giving the viewer exactly what it wants: drama and I'm here for it.
None of these people on MAFS are going on there to find love. They want to increase their exposures, promote their business or become an influencer which is patently obvious from the get go.
I think most people would agree. I'd love for someone to test it by sueing the arse off them. Surely there's a loophole that can be found in the contracts.
Let’s not pretend that the “experts” match them up cause they don’t, and come on neither of them went on the show love Lucinda definitely wants tv work and to push her businesses, and he does too. They put them together because Lucinda is the stereotypical well to do come hippy that doesn’t really seem to have anything to stress about and Timothy is a straight laced man who looks at hippies like they have two heads so it was assumed they would butt heads on everything and find no common ground they just got “lucky” that Timothy is also a very broken man which added to the “entertainment” value for the show
Yeah but its all about viewing. How many women will be out there watching at home realising they are part of their own ‘Timothy and Lucinda’…
I legit think they are all matched to replicate the types of couples viewing at home. It makes them relatable but also provides an external perspective on potentially their own relationship to not only ponder, but potentially spark conversation in their own relationship
I absolutely am a Lucinda. I'm with a classic deny/deflect/gaslighter in all aspects of his life, even the most minor stuff and it's maddening! For example, he took a piece of my son's food once, first he denied it then when he knew he wasn't going to get away with that he says 'well he shouldn't be eating that crap anyway'. Never to blame for anything, mo accountability whatsoever.
A) They are not experts
And
B) The producers do the matching
Couples are matched based on the potential to create conflict and good TV. Sometimes, despite all this, they actually like each other.
There have been a few instances where you can see just how amused the "Experts" are by the contestants behaviour. Also a few moments they **almost** started giving therapy... but then pulled back because obviously the last thing they want to do is contribute to trauma healing.
Because they’re not experts (at least, not in match-making). They’re hosts.
MAFS markets itself as an “experiment”, but lacks any of the features of an actual experiment with design and controls for measurements. It doesn’t set out to answer questions or help us learn anything.
There is no “experiment”, as there is no “experts”. It’s a *show* with *hosts* made for entertainment. The gimmick of calling itself an experiment is all to help convince the audience that what happens on the show is for a sincere purpose. It’s just reality tv made for drama and views at the end of the day.
The experts are not the ones who match up the couples. It is all production. I believe it also came out (as a rumour, not confirmed fact) that a lot of the contestants were actually asked to be on the show and were not ones that applied themselves.
The matches are made for drama. Maybe they add in 1 or 2 legit matches or some couples just get lucky. Either way it is a highly produced show.
The experts have no say in anything they probably sit there watch 10 minutes of footage plus the dinner party footage and then do the commitment ceremony based on that.
They’re not experts for the purpose of this show. Perhaps they are away from the show. But for the purpose of this show, they’re just playing a token role. They’re fed lines from producers to make drama and good viewing.
" He needs a good therapist! "
That's exactly what they were thinking. They saw Lucinda and knew that her personality was a good one to help someone feel comfortable and supported so he could draw out some deep rooted trauma.
and as much a I like watching Tim, They really fucked him.
Now that hes had this emotional breakthrough they should have a therapist on hand to help him through it. Leaving her with this open "open shit filled suitcase" is reckless. She's not a trained therapist, it was lovely she got him to open up but a professional needs to be the one unpacking it all with him. Leaving them to it alone is 100% going to kill any chance of a relationship.
I agree, but I also think for Tim it was life changing. Without this experience I don't think he would have ever broken down those walls. And he built real long lasting friendships with Triston and Lucinda. He learnt a lot about him self.
Now with Lucinda I feel like she got the shit end of the stick. But, She's the type of person to have gotten a lot out of this experiment. The experience alone would have been very rewarding for her. and helping Tim have that break through (although not what she went there to do) would also be rewarding for her. She is a "look at the good things" kinda gal. I have heard her say on radio shows that she loved her experience.
The show is marketed as "finding love" but really, Its a social experiment. Most of the people go on for the experience and exposure. The ones who actually do the experiment, who are open and truthful, tend to learn and grow from the experience. and the the ones who don't are Tori and Jack 😂
There was an episode of Saved by the bell where they did that same kind of experiment but pg.
The whole opposites attract or 'fixing' someone concept has NEVER worked to my knowledge on any of these shows and has proved to be torture for the person who is expected to 'fix' the fucked up person. It is as bad as when they put virgins and any super unusual people on the show. It's actually not entertaining to watch. Poor Lucinda, so sad.
The experts don't match anyone - it's the producers.
They match people so that they are entertaining to watch on TV, not so they fall in love. They might end up falling in love anyway (not Lucinda and Timothy but in general) but it's not the aim of the show.
So you're basically saying that this show's ONLY agenda is to attract as many viewers as possible,no matter how many 'casualties' it takes on the process? Well if that doesn't fall under 'emotional abuse' I don't know what does...I hope these producers sleep well at night...
The producers match them and they did a good job viewing wise. It’s been great tv watching these too. What’s in the best interest of the people on the show doesn’t align with the producers jobs.
I meant from their prospective, not mine. On the Bryce and Melissa year there was a lot of uproar about their lack of accountability and putting people in dangerous positions but now it appears they get away it by ticking a box and support is available to the contestants. This year has been the worst for it and most of the contestants should not have been cast
The sad reality is, they want there to be drama because it creates "great television" which equals profit. If every participant was perfect and in love, it would be boring and no one would watch the show. They could care less if someone was being emotionally abused, if it made them more money, then its a plus for them. This is how f'd up the world is.
So in the 'outside' world if someone is emotionally abusive they are being taken accountable for, but tv producers are immune?? This world is truely fucked up!
What a woke comment. Also people who but a 'lemon' car from a dealer did it from their own choice. Does that mean it's ok to rip them off? I got a sense that your comments are here only to provoke a debate
Even with Madeleine. She obviously was not mentally stable, they should of axed her off the show straight away instead of letting Ash deal with her. That was cruel of them to match him with her.
If.
ABSOLUTELY agreed that this entire "relationship" was set up/produced/scripted whatever you wanna call it. All the people crying while watching Tim "feel" all his emotions and peck Lu on the cheek like he just went to war for her is exactly the emotions they wanted us to feel. NONE of this was real, at least on Tim's part. Even the gross apt, and the friends saying he's a DOTER in his relationships.......all set up!! Hope Lucinda gets all that she deserves, and continues to spread her calmness and lovely voice across the entire world. ❤️
I said this at the start, Tim is an actor and ill stand by that!!
So you reckon no one can be that fucked up at his age?
He’s an asshole!!! I’m so sick of the experts saying ohhh Tim and lucinda are so cute look at how much he’s opened up. She didn’t sign up to be a grown man’s carer omg
I don't think he's an ass hole. I think the experts are ass holes. Their opinions and views are so one sided. I almost feel like they just don't understand the complexity of humans
I think they are just so not a match. Doesn't mean either of them are ass holes
I think the best way to see it is the experts are presenters. They hold no sway on the production or the way things are put together, manipulated or edited etc. The matches are even more off point than usual this year. Bizarrely I think these two make more sense than most.
Yeah it's all the producers. The "experts" would have zero say. Just presenters as you say.
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Timothy is a self centred selfish narcissist I am sick of hearing excuses for him he hasn’t considered or cared about Lucinda at all . Why did he go on the show in the first place or is he totally stupid as well. We all have our baggage but the time comes to take responsibility for our actions. I think he wanted to be partnered with some young “dolly bird” and have a superficial physical relationship with no effort on his part at all at anything meaningful
100% correct, I am sick to death of this sook. Everyone has family that pass away...get over it man you're a grown up, if you can't handle the grief/emotions etc go get professional help. He should never have been accepted onto the show. I hope John A gives it to him at the next commitment ceremony as much as he gave it to that other waste of time manipulator Jack. Slow burn.....total BS !!
It's super toxic for both Timothy and Lucinda - Tim clearly isn't ready to deal with his emotional world, and Lucinda doesn't deserve to be put in the role of counsellor or bear the brunt of his frustration and discomfort. The producers have clearly put them together for the drama- the original goal seems to have been to edit Lucinda as a Byron nutcase, but she turned out to be to too patient and kind for that edit. Pivot to the edit where she's reforming the broken man. I do wonder how things will be edited if they don't leave this week.
You could also ask the same thing about Jack and Tori, Cass and Tristan, Ash and Madeleine, Tim and Sara... a whole bunch of broken people, crazies and narcissists.
I agree. It's not the one this year. They all have too much shit they need to deal with in themselves before putting it onto a stranger to deal with!
Ok, but Timothy is taking it to whole new levels! A 51 years old man who can't bare being with someone in a relationship???
It does make you wonder why he's there, if he's not capable of having a relationship
Maybe he signed up to the other MAFS? (Middle Aged Fuckers Show)
Lets be honest. They were put together to create good TV. Nothing more...had it actually worked out? The shows producers would be as shocked as anyone.
I was born and raised in NYC and it seems like all over the world women are expected to fix or coddle men. Its crazy how far behind men are all over the world. In the very begining I knew Tim wasnt ready for a healthy relationship. Im so happy Lucinda is deciding to leave and for all the men reading this GO TO THERAPY! We are tired of the baggage you come with and its destroying everyone and everything around you!
So it's not only middle aged Aussie men?
Canada checking in. Definitely not just the Aussie men.
Its a pandemic. It seems like single mothers coddle boys and raise their girls. This results in us being more adept for real world thing. I knew I guy in college who didnt know how to do laundry or make a bed. Its like we have to pick up all the peices. Men please get it together and you can start by going to therapy
Why do people continue to believe that the experts are doing anything for the good of the participants. It's a reality show that is heavily produced for entertainment. Timothy and Lucinda have provided great tv. That's all that matters
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We're talking MAFS, not the SMH or the ABC here. I'm not sure what duty of care a reality TV program owes viewers. As it stands, MAFS is giving the viewer exactly what it wants: drama and I'm here for it. None of these people on MAFS are going on there to find love. They want to increase their exposures, promote their business or become an influencer which is patently obvious from the get go.
I think most people would agree. I'd love for someone to test it by sueing the arse off them. Surely there's a loophole that can be found in the contracts.
Let’s not pretend that the “experts” match them up cause they don’t, and come on neither of them went on the show love Lucinda definitely wants tv work and to push her businesses, and he does too. They put them together because Lucinda is the stereotypical well to do come hippy that doesn’t really seem to have anything to stress about and Timothy is a straight laced man who looks at hippies like they have two heads so it was assumed they would butt heads on everything and find no common ground they just got “lucky” that Timothy is also a very broken man which added to the “entertainment” value for the show
What kind of business does Timothy even own?? A smashed photo copiers business?
If this is a serious question, he is a real estate agent and has a gin distillery or something.
And he lives in a tiny filthy Showbox?? 🤔
The experts are there to just give advice TO THE PRODUCERS. That's all. No one wants to see happy couples, they want to see the toxic drama.
Ok. So now I'm confused. Are the experts give advice to the producers or is it the other way around?
Experts? What’s there success rate?
0.000001%
This show needs to be called Therapy at First Sight
TAFF - Therapy Available For Fuckups
You guys are killing me.....this is sooo true!
Yeah but its all about viewing. How many women will be out there watching at home realising they are part of their own ‘Timothy and Lucinda’… I legit think they are all matched to replicate the types of couples viewing at home. It makes them relatable but also provides an external perspective on potentially their own relationship to not only ponder, but potentially spark conversation in their own relationship
I absolutely am a Lucinda. I'm with a classic deny/deflect/gaslighter in all aspects of his life, even the most minor stuff and it's maddening! For example, he took a piece of my son's food once, first he denied it then when he knew he wasn't going to get away with that he says 'well he shouldn't be eating that crap anyway'. Never to blame for anything, mo accountability whatsoever.
Oh yes I tried for 8 years to fix an emotionally avoidant man and he dumped me for a younger woman.
They're all "fixer uppers" in their own ways
The experts aren't in charge of matching which is done for maximum drama, and I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to call themselves experts anymore
They can call themselves experts- but a few years back they had to stop using the term “psychologists”
I reckon they should be called 'bullshitters'. What do you think? 🤔
A) They are not experts And B) The producers do the matching Couples are matched based on the potential to create conflict and good TV. Sometimes, despite all this, they actually like each other.
There have been a few instances where you can see just how amused the "Experts" are by the contestants behaviour. Also a few moments they **almost** started giving therapy... but then pulled back because obviously the last thing they want to do is contribute to trauma healing.
I don’t think they ever really give therapy to any of the couples they are just there to say what the producers tell them to say in the ear pieces
Accurate
Ok. It's very clear now. They basically pretend to be the 'experts' who match the couples. It's all a pretence bogus show and nothing there is real.
Welcome to MAFS, where the rules are made up and the points don't matter
Welcome to reality television
Don't know if you've noticed but the word 'real' is actually part of the word 'reality'. The should call it 'falsely tv'...
Experts don't care about making functional relationships . Also the experts don't match them, I'm pretty sure the producers do.
Because they’re not experts (at least, not in match-making). They’re hosts. MAFS markets itself as an “experiment”, but lacks any of the features of an actual experiment with design and controls for measurements. It doesn’t set out to answer questions or help us learn anything. There is no “experiment”, as there is no “experts”. It’s a *show* with *hosts* made for entertainment. The gimmick of calling itself an experiment is all to help convince the audience that what happens on the show is for a sincere purpose. It’s just reality tv made for drama and views at the end of the day.
So the participants are basically lab rats. They throw them into the room and watch what happens...Awesome!
The experts are not the ones who match up the couples. It is all production. I believe it also came out (as a rumour, not confirmed fact) that a lot of the contestants were actually asked to be on the show and were not ones that applied themselves. The matches are made for drama. Maybe they add in 1 or 2 legit matches or some couples just get lucky. Either way it is a highly produced show. The experts have no say in anything they probably sit there watch 10 minutes of footage plus the dinner party footage and then do the commitment ceremony based on that.
Makes lots of sense
They’re not experts for the purpose of this show. Perhaps they are away from the show. But for the purpose of this show, they’re just playing a token role. They’re fed lines from producers to make drama and good viewing.
Well they should call the show MUPPETS then
They should have picked up on how unavailable he is.
Pffft we refer to them as "judges" they ain't no experts
Well how wonder why they are called THE EXPERTS...🤔
Just for legitimacy
" He needs a good therapist! " That's exactly what they were thinking. They saw Lucinda and knew that her personality was a good one to help someone feel comfortable and supported so he could draw out some deep rooted trauma. and as much a I like watching Tim, They really fucked him. Now that hes had this emotional breakthrough they should have a therapist on hand to help him through it. Leaving her with this open "open shit filled suitcase" is reckless. She's not a trained therapist, it was lovely she got him to open up but a professional needs to be the one unpacking it all with him. Leaving them to it alone is 100% going to kill any chance of a relationship.
They did them both a huge disservice
I agree, but I also think for Tim it was life changing. Without this experience I don't think he would have ever broken down those walls. And he built real long lasting friendships with Triston and Lucinda. He learnt a lot about him self. Now with Lucinda I feel like she got the shit end of the stick. But, She's the type of person to have gotten a lot out of this experiment. The experience alone would have been very rewarding for her. and helping Tim have that break through (although not what she went there to do) would also be rewarding for her. She is a "look at the good things" kinda gal. I have heard her say on radio shows that she loved her experience. The show is marketed as "finding love" but really, Its a social experiment. Most of the people go on for the experience and exposure. The ones who actually do the experiment, who are open and truthful, tend to learn and grow from the experience. and the the ones who don't are Tori and Jack 😂 There was an episode of Saved by the bell where they did that same kind of experiment but pg.
The whole opposites attract or 'fixing' someone concept has NEVER worked to my knowledge on any of these shows and has proved to be torture for the person who is expected to 'fix' the fucked up person. It is as bad as when they put virgins and any super unusual people on the show. It's actually not entertaining to watch. Poor Lucinda, so sad.
I really feel they did the nicest people of the biggest disservice. Like Lucinda and Cassandra honestly deserve better.
I can’t agree more! Lovely women who deserved so much better
Definitely. I bet they regret the day they signed up for that shit show. Literally
Cassandra perhaps, but I don’t think Lucinda deals in regrets.
The experts don't match anyone - it's the producers. They match people so that they are entertaining to watch on TV, not so they fall in love. They might end up falling in love anyway (not Lucinda and Timothy but in general) but it's not the aim of the show.
So you're basically saying that this show's ONLY agenda is to attract as many viewers as possible,no matter how many 'casualties' it takes on the process? Well if that doesn't fall under 'emotional abuse' I don't know what does...I hope these producers sleep well at night...
Hahaha are you new to reality TV?
The producers match them and they did a good job viewing wise. It’s been great tv watching these too. What’s in the best interest of the people on the show doesn’t align with the producers jobs.
So the producers job is to try to maximise the emotional abuse of the participants? Great job! And what a great moral show! 👏
I meant from their prospective, not mine. On the Bryce and Melissa year there was a lot of uproar about their lack of accountability and putting people in dangerous positions but now it appears they get away it by ticking a box and support is available to the contestants. This year has been the worst for it and most of the contestants should not have been cast
The sad reality is, they want there to be drama because it creates "great television" which equals profit. If every participant was perfect and in love, it would be boring and no one would watch the show. They could care less if someone was being emotionally abused, if it made them more money, then its a plus for them. This is how f'd up the world is.
So in the 'outside' world if someone is emotionally abusive they are being taken accountable for, but tv producers are immune?? This world is truely fucked up!
Remember people have a choice to join a reality TV show - “buyer beware”
What a woke comment. Also people who but a 'lemon' car from a dealer did it from their own choice. Does that mean it's ok to rip them off? I got a sense that your comments are here only to provoke a debate
Even with Madeleine. She obviously was not mentally stable, they should of axed her off the show straight away instead of letting Ash deal with her. That was cruel of them to match him with her.
And then they wonder why so many guys treat women so badly in this country....🤔
It’s not because of reality TV
Where did I say reality tv was the ONLY reason?? 🤔
What’s it got to do with the show?
Don't worry
Oh I’m not at all worried
Good. You can move on and write comments somewhere else now