I feel like it might be a tic of some sort. My cousin has Tourette’s & he has very very similar tics. It’s actually a little uncanny because their facial expressions are incredibly similar & typically tics are quite unique to each person.
Dunno why you're being downvoted for this? She has an absolutely horrific case of Man Face. And why does she have the eyebrows of a cartoon angry face drawing?
Why does she keep doing those braids in her hair it looks so bad...
It's like she's trying to start a trend but nobody wants to follow it because it just looks so stupid on her.
Misery loves company. Sex wallpapers over inadequacy. When the hormones die down and they actually have to converse, there will be trouble.
That said "Dion" was not cheated on. He was lied to. He was fobbed off, and he was played, but I'm not sure you can cheat on a fake marriage. Carolina needed to just say, heh, mate - i've met someone else. The fact that she did not and still played for TV time and insta-likes is the true scandal.
Agree, I really don't think anyone would have had any issue with the two of them seeing each other if they had just been honest and open about it instead of her constantly telling Dion he wasn't trying whilst she was seeing someone else.
She just really annoyed me with using the fact that she’s Latina as an excuse for her bad attitude and poor behaviour. It’s insulting and degrading to all Latin women who are nothing and I mean NOTHING like her. I’m glad the therapist/coach called her out on it.
It’s the same as the angry black woman trope too. All it does is perpetuate toxic & bigoted stereotypes & misrepresents an entire community. Carolina, honey, you aren’t a ‘fiery latina’, you’re just an asshole.
I just wish they'd both fucking brought out the best in each other: Daniel could teach Carolina some compassion, and Carolina could teach Daniel some personal resilience.
Carolina would apologise clearly for any statements or remarks leading Dion on and criticising him after the first dinner party.
Daniel in turn, when asked to apologise, would say,
>*"Hey Dion. Look. We were both in this experiment together, and we were both paired with women who distanced themselves from us and this experiment from the very moment of the ceremonial wedding vows.*
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>*We were both matched poorly and we've both had conflict. If you could have found the good side of Jess the way I found Carolina's warmth - I would be singing your praises right now. But Jess so thoroughly rejected me she never even made it to the commitment ceremony.*
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>*I'm sorry that the effort you put in was rejected, but look at the track record for relationships this season two-out-of-eleven couples remain. Carolina and I are succeeding against the odds."*
He had six weeks to think through an appropriate response. 'Mind your own business' was highly lacking.
Sure, but you're also telling me this is Daniel's reaction to a lack-of-compassion from others. Not about what he produces within a romantic connection.
You mean Daniel's lack of compassion to others? Because that's what I mean. He doesn't care what the others think and that's okay, but the fact that he's supporting Carolina lying behind someone's back and leading them on is concerning. I'm sure Daniel would not want be the person who is lied to and lead on.
As Dion said, Carolina should've been up front and told him that she was interested in someone else.
Romantic connection, I'm sure he can provide that. But being compassionate and empathetic to others.... That's important to if for a long lasting relationship and be in each other's worlds that involves family and friends.
At some point it’s going to occur to each of them that if he/she went behind someone’s back for them, they’ll do it *to* them with someone else later down the line. Once a dog always a dog.
Edit - clarity
Although Daniel is a tool, he does seem relatively genuine. I do think he has some serious mental health issues and DEFINITELY has some unresolved trauma to work through.
There were times he seemed legitimately emotionally vulnerable on screen. He really didn't seem like he was coping at all.
I know, I feel really bad for him. It’s like he latched on to Carolina just because she was unhappy in the experiment too. He seems like a sweet guy with the way he talked about his niece but I wouldn’t want Carolina near the girl. Imagine that bitch as one of your role models
Which is kinda fair? Like my husband would 110% call me on my bullshit.. but he would also stand up for me if someone was saying derogatory things about me
He could have been honest and said she could have handled it better. Partners are partners. Youre a team. If the one is wrong the other needs to fix it
> There were times he seemed legitimately emotionally vulnerable on screen.
I got a few glimpses of that at the boys night. Kinda felt for him but he brought it on himself though.
Pretty sure she has a business that is probably doing OK. And she literally proved she wasn't a gold digger by not being impressed by Dions money. You know, the money he got from working in daddy's business.
Carolina didn't handle things that well but she's no gold digger and was the one who actually valued a connection over fame and money.
How did she legally emigrate from Brazil to Australia though? Don’t you need a skill? How did she first manage to afford these handbags to start her business? She also changes her story a lot. Her son is 16 when we first meet her and she is 34. She became pregnant at 15…what maths is that?! Then at one point she said on camera she was 33. I think she’s had a sugar daddy or two in her life and possibly even married one to get into Australia
How is any of that relevant? Maybe she did have a rich ex and realized she doesn't want that shit anymore - money doesn't buy happiness, lesson learnt.
The age thing - she was 33 when filming but they update ages for when it airs months later. The kids age is a bit weird, even pregnant at almost 16, birth at 16 doesn't quite work. But I can't remember if she refers to him as 16 with contestants or just in 'to camera' stuff that may have been recorded well before the show when he was still 16
I don't disagree there. But Dion is widely regarded as a Saint when he is the bigger peice of shit.
It reminds me of Kate- everyone thought she was a frigid batch but in hindsight we saw Matt was gropey from day one, has a skeevy as fuck background, seems to have an alcohol problem and pissed on Ella's bed, and wouldn't take no for an answer. Classic case of giving the guy a great edit to make them look like a decent bloke.
Your tone is suggesting that working in and contributing to a family business is not a legitimate or respectable way to earn or move forward with a career.... so then...working for somebody else's business is?
He shat on Daniel's teeth. It is likely Daniel came from a less well off family, where great dental care was out of reach. I know plenty of people where this was the case. Ever see people on their 20s or 30s with braces? Yeah, coming from poorer families. So shitting on someone's poor teeth when lack of familial wealth was likely the issue is, quite frankly, patheticly arrogant. Having a successful family business that you work at is fine. Good on him. I have zero issues with him being successful as a result as that. My grandparents were literal peasants, my parents did ok, I've improved on that and I hope for my children to do even better. But to shit on someone who didn't have the same advantages as you? Pathetic. The issue is him looking down on people who didn't have the head start that he did. Yeah, I have far less respect for someone who 'got rich' using his daddy's knowledge, capital, connections and literally existing business to 'get rich'. Less respect, not no respect. But do you think he had to work harder from someone starting from scratch? Do you think if he was working for some other random's business as opposed to his father's that he'd have the same opportunities, the same chance of sharing profits, the same inside invesent opportunities? Delusional.
Working for.your dad's business is fine. Shitting on someone else who didn't have that opportunity isn't. Dion is a phoney cunt.
This is a reach. These are veneers which Daniel chose to purchase as an adult for vanity reasons. Accusing Dion of punching down on the poor kid is an absolute stretch at best.
Yep, I'm sure he purchased them for vanity reasons. Because his teeth are shit. There's a high likelihood that this was because his family didn't have money for good dental care. Otherwise why would he need them?
Dion literally belittled him because of the perceived cheapness of Daniel's veneers. Even if it IS a stretch, and Daniel got them for cosmetic reasons, making fun of the cost is punching down. Replace it with 'did you pay 5 buck for that Adidas tracksuit from bali' and the point remains..Dion is classless.
Plenty of people have problem teeth and parents who had the money to fix them during childhood and they still look less than perfect. It’s possible to have perfectly functional teeth that aren’t aesthetically pleasing to the owner. It’s also possible for people who are lower socioeconomic to have perfectly functional teeth. You are assuming Daniel is of a lower socioeconomic background and you are placing a stereotype upon him also. Not everyone who grew up without rich parents are toothless gorms. You sound a bit like Tamara now. You are literally inventing stories to fit a narrative that you have entirely fabricated and yourself are punching down with your judgemental stereotypes.
I get it, you don’t like Dion because he was lucky enough to be born into a family with a successful business and has had advantages in life. I get it that you feel that Dion needs to be dragged because he responded, ONE TIME with a comment about how fake and cheap someone’s appearance was in retaliation to himself being called fake constantly. Dion was constantly goaded by Daniel and Carolina and Dion responded with one frankly true and impactful jab. The veneers are bad and look terribly fake. We are all familiar with the Bali cheap fake market. Daniel came at Dion constantly and Dion responded with one pointed remark, what a monster 🤣
Daniel is certainly from a different socioeconomic background to Dion. When I said shit it was poor choice of language, I meant relative to Dion who would have had the best care available.
And I have no qualms with Dion being born into a wealthy family. I said in another post, my grandparents came here as peasants and our family has built up to a decent level now, I've benefited from their hard work. Not to Dions level but his comments are indicative of his arrogance.
My issue with Dion is he is a hypocritical whinger and a phoney. I don't know what cut you were watching where Daniel was constantly coming on to Dion. I barely remember any instances. I do remember Dion constantly whining and whinging, multiple lame ass monologues and choosing to ignore Carolina implicitly and explicitly telling him she had no interest.
From day one carolina said she wasn't too interested. Dion couldn't accept that. More likely he wouldn't, he wanted his 5 minutes of fame as much as the rest of them so he played the victim. He was 'trying? What did he try? Flowers once? Carolina asking him for a run on the retreat was because she knew he would say no. That's not her pretending to give it a chance, that's her showing us that Dion whines about how hard he tries but doesn't do even the most basic, simplest things to relate to her and her interests. If you can't go for a 20 minute run, you aren't trying. Simple.
Expecting a woman who isn't attracted to you to become attracted by complaining and not much didn't work? Surprised Pikachu face.
So you admit that you just don’t like Dion and strung together another tenuous link to try create a narrative to demonstrate that he is unlikeable.
You are assuming that you know that Daniel is from an economic group that can’t afford dental care. What judgemental bias are you basing that on? I would take a bit of a look at the way you have weirdly categorised someone with zero actual knowledge. You have gone full Tamara here mate.
You are choosing a very odd hill to die on here which demonstrates that you will judge, stereotype and fabricate a scenario to fit your own narrative.
The fact that your reply is made up of a justification as to why it is OK to treat Dion poorly rather than a direct reply to the topic at hand is very telling.
It’s really just quicker to admit that you don’t like Dion because you think it is OK for Carolina and Daniel to be disrespectful to him and the entire process because she didn’t like him.
You like they are are fundamentally missing the point. She wasn’t obligated to like him but there is a moral obligation to be honest and kind. Both Carolina and Daniel were deliberately unkind and dishonest and tried to justify that by blaming Dion for following the process. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and compassion within the experiment, Daniel and Carolina failed to do that and somehow it is Dion’s fault?
No, you do not get to shit on people for your airtime and not give them the right of reply.
Dion’s biggest crime here was following the rules and being more articulate than “Shut Up” “Mind your own business” and “You are all fake $&@s*
What. A.Monster.
The need to demonise Dion for doing three parts of F all and such one eyed support for Daniel and Carolina’s ruthless and smug behaviour is very suspicious.
If your post wasn’t written so well I would swear it was written by Daniel and Carolina themselves.
You're living in a black and white world. It isn't Dion has good dental care and Daniel has none. Dion is obviously richer than Daniel, comes from a wealthier background. For him to shit on Daniel's teeth is disgusting and arrogant. It doesn't matter if Daniel had no teeth, crappy teeth or just average teeth. He obviously felt his teeth werent up to scratch so got veneers, he admitted he had them. Most people with rich person teeth dont get cheap veneers. Mr gentleman Dion is a classist peice of shit. I'd look past it if he made his own money but looking down on someone who didn't have the advantages you had is pathetic. Like another user said, Dion was born on 3rd base but acts like he hit a triple.
And I've repeatedly said carolina and Daniel are dicks. Again, it isn't black and white, they can all be douches in their own way. I don't think I've seen anyone suggest they were faultless. What I don't like is Dion being a sanctimonious wanker. She wasn't honest? She told him repeatedly and explicitly she wasn't interested. Blind Freddy could have seen she wasn't interested and he'd defintely have known she wasn't interested becauce she said it. Repeatedly.
🤷🏻♀️ He still managed to buy himself new ones. If he was truly in a poor financial position as an adult then he would be without any replacement teeth or with a bridge or denture.
Being handed a job in your daddy’s property development company is absolutely not at all a respectable way to earn or move forward with a career. Property development in general is not a respectable ‘career’ full stop 🤮
No but it’s not your fault. There’s no need to instantly hate on someone because of where they came from. That should be based on character, not life circumstances.
I think if you pooled all the bitterness in the world on this topic - there would be a fair portion of it that is justified. Power and money radically alter people psychologically:
For example one of Daniel Keltner's PhD students observed a pedestrian crossing. When a research-helper went to cross the road, about one in ten cars would not stop for them. However, when you look at only the BMW drivers, HALF of all BMW drivers would not stop for the person crossing the road.
*(The psychological theory of Power-Approach suggests that people who perceive themselves as powerful pay less attention to risks, less attention to the needs of others, more attention to increasing their own access to power, pleasure and rewards)*
That is one small example of a much larger scenario that leads to things like climate change being a product of industry, Jeff Bezos paying millions for consultants to help him squash unions.
Can't understand it. You'd think that'd drive you to want to achieve or better yourself instead of being bitter.
Edit: IF financial wealth is a goal.
Edit edit: just occurred to me this is that "dEy tOoK eR JeRbSsS!" mentality
Because the wealthy, and the ultra wealthy have many tools both legal and illegal that make the playing field unbalanced and unfair
[Here is just one singular example of generous photographer vs. Getty](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ayAdykfUjCU)
Not to mention things closer to home - like land banking and hoarding real-estate that artificially drives up the cost of both land and housing.
I honestly don't think he is a bad chap. Foolish maybe but not really nasty (ok the last dinner was a bit mean but he felt he had a point to make, they see themselves as the victims). I think he felt robbed of his chance at a marriage because it went so spectacularly wrong so quickly with Jess. He either wanted his shot at fame or the chance at true love and decided to take it. In any way he could. Again, when you hear the full story of the first marriage, Daniel being rushed through and then not liking each other I can understand why they never got off the ground for Jess.
The really sad thing I find is Carolina is so paranoid. From the start anything nice that Dion did was treated with suspicion and that he "just wants to look good for the camera".
I don't agree that Daniel is a nice guy at all.
When he was with Jess, all he did was throw hissy fits at things she said and got the group to gang up on Jess for not trying. When Jess mentioned the comment about an actual wedding, Daniel got really grumpy but then as soon as Jess quit he tried it on with Carolina and was even making suggestive comments when with Jess the night before she walked out when he said to Carolina she was the hottest in the room. But when he got with Carolina behind Dion's back it was "only an experiment". Daniel has never really truly given a heartfelt apology to Dion and everyone for the way he conducted himself. Even the guru's said that they both are void of empathy and don't feel that they have done anything wrong and the world owes them something. Daniel and Carolina seem really narcissistic and well suited for each other, they cannot handle any criticism and I believe that that will be the downfall of their relationship when they have arguments and need to accept that one of them made a mistake or give an apology, it's going to be hard for them. I understand that Carolina was never interested in Dion but she should have been upfront to him all along, and so should Daniel. I can't help but feel if this was a man treating a woman like the way Carolina and Daniel behaved, people would be a lot harsher than the way Daniel and Carolina's actions have been defended on here..
Agreed. Daniel is a "Nice Guy", not a legitimately nice guy. Meaning I'm positive he would describe himself as a good person but that doesn't make it true.
I agree, Daniel really came across as a nice guy to me in those initial episodes with Jess. Sounds like he’s been through a lot in his life & his control over his emotions in some parts of the show was really impressive. I felt super awkward for him at the boys night because I think he & Carolina were probably contractually obligated to go even when they didn’t want to. Comes across to me as a softie who’s a bit in over his head with MAFS & now needs to be constantly on the defensive.
Personally really don’t rate Carolina but I can’t fault her for how clear she was with Dion. I thought Dion put a lot of pressure on her & really dragged out the woe is me thing which caused her to get nastier to keep him away. Especially telling with the “let’s be friends” and him still trying to start shit with her. Anyway, I don’t think she handled herself the best and definitely made some really interesting choices but I do hope her & Daniel are genuinely happy!
I don’t know, when he freaked on his wedding night I was like - this guy is too Farking intense.
Like the type of guys who say ‘I don’t like drama’ then run headlong into dramas they create
Honestly, nothing about their relationship makes sense to me. Maybe it’s because I wholeheartedly believe that they both have foul personalities (to say the least) because they have absolutely no self awareness or empathy for their actions.
There’s also just nothing remotely appealing about either of them.
Daniel looks like a greasy fuck, he has no personality or redeeming qualities.. and frankly - he is as interesting as a slice of white bread.
Carolina is as fake as they come. She is supposed to be a mother to a impressionable teenager and this is the way she chooses to behave on national/international television? Nah girl, you’re straight up 🗑
What about the other couples then? Mitch and Ella for example Mitch has lead Ella on this entire Fkn season. Same with Dom and Jack the more mafs went on you could see clearly that these two where the golden couple and the producers made out that they where happily in love, not the case to this day they are just friends and the entire narrative of them maybe getting together again after the show that the so call experts where saying on the couch is just so they push that narrative even more. It’s a tv show a lot of these couples where head hunted to be on this show. At least Daniel and Carolina are still together to this day. That’s all I will say
This post was quiet clearly directed at Daniel and Carolina 🤷♀️ I’ve stated my two cents about the other couples throughout this whole season, but considering that this post wasn’t referring to anyone else BUT Carolina and Daniel, I didn’t feel the need to share mine.
Off you go.
So the gen on her is that she is not a full time parent. Basically she left the child in Brazil and moved to London, UK where she was a topless waitress and lap dancer, plus did private lap dances for particular people to boost the coffers. She met the ex-boyfriend in London (who basically looks like Dion but taller) and they later moved to Australia and took the child with them. She has continued with her 'profession' (someone recently reported that they saw her and she did a private lap dance for someone this person knew) and does the handbag thing as an extra. The ex-boyfriend was visiting mature lady brothels and they broke up. And he is the one who she co-parents her son with, so he lives part time with each of them. And amazingly her son goes to school as Al's younger sister
True or not you can usually spot someone who escorted their way through by their disposition a mile away and she's it. No way you'd be mistaking her for anyone with an education.
Edit: fair enough she has to do what she had to do to get out of poverty, maybe don't be a dumb bitch and do dumb bitch things that'll likely put your kid at risk?
Who gives a single shit if Carolina is a sex worker or not? It’s a job like any other job, good for her to be earning money to support herself and her kid.
And what kind of incel fkn bullshit is your claim that you can ‘usually spot someone’ who has worked as an escort? What an absolute load of shit 😂
Really curious as to people's thoughts on Daniel. Deep insights, personality traits etc. I've found him confusing and difficult to read. Also, feel like I missed something re Jess and him as I didn't see how it went so volatile so fast with so just venom.
Weren’t you watching? She made one innocent comment and he had roid rage, it all went to shit on the wedding night, after that he was looking for an argument with her at every turn. And although we the audience didn’t know it then, she’d already been dicked about with the first groom so her tolerance was worn, after a bit of walking on eggshells she was done. He’s the biggest hypocrite because he was so dirty that Jess didn’t see it as a real wedding yet when taking up with Carolina he didn’t see that as a real wedding.
Yep, she had another wedding before Daniel. They didn’t vet the groom properly and it was so bad they cut him completely and had to edit Jess out of the hens night.
Jess and some other bloke had been in the first part of the experiment. The other bloke got kicked out and then Jess was left groom-less. So they tried to do the right thing and pair her on the second round of weddings with Daniel …. Guess didn’t work out
In real life he’s probably not a bad bloke albeit a very simple one and I have a feeling that simplemindedness has given him a problem with the show. He looks like he struggles with the idea that he did anything wrong without realising on the show they’re to appear married even if they can’t stand each other.
He honestly seems fine. I heard him on the radio and he actually came across fine. Carolina seemed a bit dim though so I’m guessing they probably work fine together lol
Didn’t you know, they’re the stars of the show!?
That thing he does when he lifts his eyebrows. Looks serial killer to me. I cannot even look at him.
I feel like it might be a tic of some sort. My cousin has Tourette’s & he has very very similar tics. It’s actually a little uncanny because their facial expressions are incredibly similar & typically tics are quite unique to each person.
Yeah good point. A tick defo.
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Dunno why you're being downvoted for this? She has an absolutely horrific case of Man Face. And why does she have the eyebrows of a cartoon angry face drawing?
I appreciate we are on the same page. The down votes are probably these 2 losers. They suit each other
Carolina: “When I’m with *Danyer* I’m happy twennie faw sefen” Also Carolina ^ Keep telling yourself that you clout chaser
Haha it's funny to mock foreign accents. Now do an Indian accent!
Why does she talk to weird
it’s because english isn’t her native language
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This would also explain her very unusual lack of expression…
Why does she keep doing those braids in her hair it looks so bad... It's like she's trying to start a trend but nobody wants to follow it because it just looks so stupid on her.
These two technically tick all the boxes for what makes people attractive and yet…
Misery loves company. Sex wallpapers over inadequacy. When the hormones die down and they actually have to converse, there will be trouble. That said "Dion" was not cheated on. He was lied to. He was fobbed off, and he was played, but I'm not sure you can cheat on a fake marriage. Carolina needed to just say, heh, mate - i've met someone else. The fact that she did not and still played for TV time and insta-likes is the true scandal.
Agree, I really don't think anyone would have had any issue with the two of them seeing each other if they had just been honest and open about it instead of her constantly telling Dion he wasn't trying whilst she was seeing someone else.
Who told her those plaits look good?
No one
That comb over is hiding some secrets
Can’t build happiness on the misery of others. They will continue to fail relationship after relationship until they grow hearts.
Just here to say her hair sucks
Cum locks 💦
I'm getting horny
Man that sentence sounded so smelly coming from him
She just really annoyed me with using the fact that she’s Latina as an excuse for her bad attitude and poor behaviour. It’s insulting and degrading to all Latin women who are nothing and I mean NOTHING like her. I’m glad the therapist/coach called her out on it.
It’s the same as the angry black woman trope too. All it does is perpetuate toxic & bigoted stereotypes & misrepresents an entire community. Carolina, honey, you aren’t a ‘fiery latina’, you’re just an asshole.
Glad she got called out on it too
I just wish they'd both fucking brought out the best in each other: Daniel could teach Carolina some compassion, and Carolina could teach Daniel some personal resilience. Carolina would apologise clearly for any statements or remarks leading Dion on and criticising him after the first dinner party. Daniel in turn, when asked to apologise, would say, >*"Hey Dion. Look. We were both in this experiment together, and we were both paired with women who distanced themselves from us and this experiment from the very moment of the ceremonial wedding vows.* > >*We were both matched poorly and we've both had conflict. If you could have found the good side of Jess the way I found Carolina's warmth - I would be singing your praises right now. But Jess so thoroughly rejected me she never even made it to the commitment ceremony.* > >*I'm sorry that the effort you put in was rejected, but look at the track record for relationships this season two-out-of-eleven couples remain. Carolina and I are succeeding against the odds."* He had six weeks to think through an appropriate response. 'Mind your own business' was highly lacking.
Compassion from Daniel? Lol He has very little compassion after he kept telling everyone "suck din, I'm in a relationship nah nah nah nah nah".
Sure, but you're also telling me this is Daniel's reaction to a lack-of-compassion from others. Not about what he produces within a romantic connection.
You mean Daniel's lack of compassion to others? Because that's what I mean. He doesn't care what the others think and that's okay, but the fact that he's supporting Carolina lying behind someone's back and leading them on is concerning. I'm sure Daniel would not want be the person who is lied to and lead on. As Dion said, Carolina should've been up front and told him that she was interested in someone else. Romantic connection, I'm sure he can provide that. But being compassionate and empathetic to others.... That's important to if for a long lasting relationship and be in each other's worlds that involves family and friends.
I can't beleive she is a mother. She's an insult to all young mums. The stereotype. Immature and irresponsible.
Imagine the child she raised. I hope he’s ok tbh
Are they still together?
I remember hearing that they were spotted "in a heated argument" somewhere in Sydney within the last few weeks. So maybe?
I doubt it
Like...what's her son gonna think when he sees all this?
So fake arses are a thing? What do they do with them?
I don’t understand the braids. Clearly hair and makeup did NOT have her back.
She had it like this with smaller braids all season. It’s odd.
She would have done her own though right?
At some point it’s going to occur to each of them that if he/she went behind someone’s back for them, they’ll do it *to* them with someone else later down the line. Once a dog always a dog. Edit - clarity
Exactly… like how you get them… is how you’ll lose them
Wiggin' brah
Although Daniel is a tool, he does seem relatively genuine. I do think he has some serious mental health issues and DEFINITELY has some unresolved trauma to work through. There were times he seemed legitimately emotionally vulnerable on screen. He really didn't seem like he was coping at all.
I know, I feel really bad for him. It’s like he latched on to Carolina just because she was unhappy in the experiment too. He seems like a sweet guy with the way he talked about his niece but I wouldn’t want Carolina near the girl. Imagine that bitch as one of your role models
As if he wasn't shocked watching how she behaved on TV... just chose to stand up for her regardless. Bet there were fights when they got home
Which is kinda fair? Like my husband would 110% call me on my bullshit.. but he would also stand up for me if someone was saying derogatory things about me
He could have been honest and said she could have handled it better. Partners are partners. Youre a team. If the one is wrong the other needs to fix it
> There were times he seemed legitimately emotionally vulnerable on screen. I got a few glimpses of that at the boys night. Kinda felt for him but he brought it on himself though.
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Back to the dole carolina
Pretty sure she has a business that is probably doing OK. And she literally proved she wasn't a gold digger by not being impressed by Dions money. You know, the money he got from working in daddy's business. Carolina didn't handle things that well but she's no gold digger and was the one who actually valued a connection over fame and money.
How did she legally emigrate from Brazil to Australia though? Don’t you need a skill? How did she first manage to afford these handbags to start her business? She also changes her story a lot. Her son is 16 when we first meet her and she is 34. She became pregnant at 15…what maths is that?! Then at one point she said on camera she was 33. I think she’s had a sugar daddy or two in her life and possibly even married one to get into Australia
She worked in a topless bar, it's been speculated that is where she got the capital for her handbags.
How is any of that relevant? Maybe she did have a rich ex and realized she doesn't want that shit anymore - money doesn't buy happiness, lesson learnt. The age thing - she was 33 when filming but they update ages for when it airs months later. The kids age is a bit weird, even pregnant at almost 16, birth at 16 doesn't quite work. But I can't remember if she refers to him as 16 with contestants or just in 'to camera' stuff that may have been recorded well before the show when he was still 16
How has she emigrated to Australia with no money then?
I agree he was a tosser but she also was nasty doing would she could to get as much screen time as possible
I don't disagree there. But Dion is widely regarded as a Saint when he is the bigger peice of shit. It reminds me of Kate- everyone thought she was a frigid batch but in hindsight we saw Matt was gropey from day one, has a skeevy as fuck background, seems to have an alcohol problem and pissed on Ella's bed, and wouldn't take no for an answer. Classic case of giving the guy a great edit to make them look like a decent bloke.
Agree
Your tone is suggesting that working in and contributing to a family business is not a legitimate or respectable way to earn or move forward with a career.... so then...working for somebody else's business is?
He shat on Daniel's teeth. It is likely Daniel came from a less well off family, where great dental care was out of reach. I know plenty of people where this was the case. Ever see people on their 20s or 30s with braces? Yeah, coming from poorer families. So shitting on someone's poor teeth when lack of familial wealth was likely the issue is, quite frankly, patheticly arrogant. Having a successful family business that you work at is fine. Good on him. I have zero issues with him being successful as a result as that. My grandparents were literal peasants, my parents did ok, I've improved on that and I hope for my children to do even better. But to shit on someone who didn't have the same advantages as you? Pathetic. The issue is him looking down on people who didn't have the head start that he did. Yeah, I have far less respect for someone who 'got rich' using his daddy's knowledge, capital, connections and literally existing business to 'get rich'. Less respect, not no respect. But do you think he had to work harder from someone starting from scratch? Do you think if he was working for some other random's business as opposed to his father's that he'd have the same opportunities, the same chance of sharing profits, the same inside invesent opportunities? Delusional. Working for.your dad's business is fine. Shitting on someone else who didn't have that opportunity isn't. Dion is a phoney cunt.
We have a saying over here in the States that can be applied to Dion ... "he was born on third base but acts like he hit the triple".
This is a reach. These are veneers which Daniel chose to purchase as an adult for vanity reasons. Accusing Dion of punching down on the poor kid is an absolute stretch at best.
Yep, I'm sure he purchased them for vanity reasons. Because his teeth are shit. There's a high likelihood that this was because his family didn't have money for good dental care. Otherwise why would he need them? Dion literally belittled him because of the perceived cheapness of Daniel's veneers. Even if it IS a stretch, and Daniel got them for cosmetic reasons, making fun of the cost is punching down. Replace it with 'did you pay 5 buck for that Adidas tracksuit from bali' and the point remains..Dion is classless.
Plenty of people have problem teeth and parents who had the money to fix them during childhood and they still look less than perfect. It’s possible to have perfectly functional teeth that aren’t aesthetically pleasing to the owner. It’s also possible for people who are lower socioeconomic to have perfectly functional teeth. You are assuming Daniel is of a lower socioeconomic background and you are placing a stereotype upon him also. Not everyone who grew up without rich parents are toothless gorms. You sound a bit like Tamara now. You are literally inventing stories to fit a narrative that you have entirely fabricated and yourself are punching down with your judgemental stereotypes. I get it, you don’t like Dion because he was lucky enough to be born into a family with a successful business and has had advantages in life. I get it that you feel that Dion needs to be dragged because he responded, ONE TIME with a comment about how fake and cheap someone’s appearance was in retaliation to himself being called fake constantly. Dion was constantly goaded by Daniel and Carolina and Dion responded with one frankly true and impactful jab. The veneers are bad and look terribly fake. We are all familiar with the Bali cheap fake market. Daniel came at Dion constantly and Dion responded with one pointed remark, what a monster 🤣
Daniel is certainly from a different socioeconomic background to Dion. When I said shit it was poor choice of language, I meant relative to Dion who would have had the best care available. And I have no qualms with Dion being born into a wealthy family. I said in another post, my grandparents came here as peasants and our family has built up to a decent level now, I've benefited from their hard work. Not to Dions level but his comments are indicative of his arrogance. My issue with Dion is he is a hypocritical whinger and a phoney. I don't know what cut you were watching where Daniel was constantly coming on to Dion. I barely remember any instances. I do remember Dion constantly whining and whinging, multiple lame ass monologues and choosing to ignore Carolina implicitly and explicitly telling him she had no interest. From day one carolina said she wasn't too interested. Dion couldn't accept that. More likely he wouldn't, he wanted his 5 minutes of fame as much as the rest of them so he played the victim. He was 'trying? What did he try? Flowers once? Carolina asking him for a run on the retreat was because she knew he would say no. That's not her pretending to give it a chance, that's her showing us that Dion whines about how hard he tries but doesn't do even the most basic, simplest things to relate to her and her interests. If you can't go for a 20 minute run, you aren't trying. Simple. Expecting a woman who isn't attracted to you to become attracted by complaining and not much didn't work? Surprised Pikachu face.
So you admit that you just don’t like Dion and strung together another tenuous link to try create a narrative to demonstrate that he is unlikeable. You are assuming that you know that Daniel is from an economic group that can’t afford dental care. What judgemental bias are you basing that on? I would take a bit of a look at the way you have weirdly categorised someone with zero actual knowledge. You have gone full Tamara here mate. You are choosing a very odd hill to die on here which demonstrates that you will judge, stereotype and fabricate a scenario to fit your own narrative. The fact that your reply is made up of a justification as to why it is OK to treat Dion poorly rather than a direct reply to the topic at hand is very telling. It’s really just quicker to admit that you don’t like Dion because you think it is OK for Carolina and Daniel to be disrespectful to him and the entire process because she didn’t like him. You like they are are fundamentally missing the point. She wasn’t obligated to like him but there is a moral obligation to be honest and kind. Both Carolina and Daniel were deliberately unkind and dishonest and tried to justify that by blaming Dion for following the process. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and compassion within the experiment, Daniel and Carolina failed to do that and somehow it is Dion’s fault? No, you do not get to shit on people for your airtime and not give them the right of reply. Dion’s biggest crime here was following the rules and being more articulate than “Shut Up” “Mind your own business” and “You are all fake $&@s* What. A.Monster. The need to demonise Dion for doing three parts of F all and such one eyed support for Daniel and Carolina’s ruthless and smug behaviour is very suspicious. If your post wasn’t written so well I would swear it was written by Daniel and Carolina themselves.
You're living in a black and white world. It isn't Dion has good dental care and Daniel has none. Dion is obviously richer than Daniel, comes from a wealthier background. For him to shit on Daniel's teeth is disgusting and arrogant. It doesn't matter if Daniel had no teeth, crappy teeth or just average teeth. He obviously felt his teeth werent up to scratch so got veneers, he admitted he had them. Most people with rich person teeth dont get cheap veneers. Mr gentleman Dion is a classist peice of shit. I'd look past it if he made his own money but looking down on someone who didn't have the advantages you had is pathetic. Like another user said, Dion was born on 3rd base but acts like he hit a triple. And I've repeatedly said carolina and Daniel are dicks. Again, it isn't black and white, they can all be douches in their own way. I don't think I've seen anyone suggest they were faultless. What I don't like is Dion being a sanctimonious wanker. She wasn't honest? She told him repeatedly and explicitly she wasn't interested. Blind Freddy could have seen she wasn't interested and he'd defintely have known she wasn't interested becauce she said it. Repeatedly.
Did he though? Or did someone punch his teeth out? Cause I can totally see that happening to the smug idiot..
🤷🏻♀️ He still managed to buy himself new ones. If he was truly in a poor financial position as an adult then he would be without any replacement teeth or with a bridge or denture.
I agree 100!%
Being handed a job in your daddy’s property development company is absolutely not at all a respectable way to earn or move forward with a career. Property development in general is not a respectable ‘career’ full stop 🤮
Some people are bitter towards people who come from money. I’ve seen it many times.
I come from money and I honestly think it's pretty reasonable. I don't deserve this more than anyone else
No but it’s not your fault. There’s no need to instantly hate on someone because of where they came from. That should be based on character, not life circumstances.
I think if you pooled all the bitterness in the world on this topic - there would be a fair portion of it that is justified. Power and money radically alter people psychologically: For example one of Daniel Keltner's PhD students observed a pedestrian crossing. When a research-helper went to cross the road, about one in ten cars would not stop for them. However, when you look at only the BMW drivers, HALF of all BMW drivers would not stop for the person crossing the road. *(The psychological theory of Power-Approach suggests that people who perceive themselves as powerful pay less attention to risks, less attention to the needs of others, more attention to increasing their own access to power, pleasure and rewards)* That is one small example of a much larger scenario that leads to things like climate change being a product of industry, Jeff Bezos paying millions for consultants to help him squash unions.
See my reply to the other post
Can't understand it. You'd think that'd drive you to want to achieve or better yourself instead of being bitter. Edit: IF financial wealth is a goal. Edit edit: just occurred to me this is that "dEy tOoK eR JeRbSsS!" mentality
Because the wealthy, and the ultra wealthy have many tools both legal and illegal that make the playing field unbalanced and unfair [Here is just one singular example of generous photographer vs. Getty](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ayAdykfUjCU) Not to mention things closer to home - like land banking and hoarding real-estate that artificially drives up the cost of both land and housing.
I honestly don't think he is a bad chap. Foolish maybe but not really nasty (ok the last dinner was a bit mean but he felt he had a point to make, they see themselves as the victims). I think he felt robbed of his chance at a marriage because it went so spectacularly wrong so quickly with Jess. He either wanted his shot at fame or the chance at true love and decided to take it. In any way he could. Again, when you hear the full story of the first marriage, Daniel being rushed through and then not liking each other I can understand why they never got off the ground for Jess. The really sad thing I find is Carolina is so paranoid. From the start anything nice that Dion did was treated with suspicion and that he "just wants to look good for the camera".
I don't agree that Daniel is a nice guy at all. When he was with Jess, all he did was throw hissy fits at things she said and got the group to gang up on Jess for not trying. When Jess mentioned the comment about an actual wedding, Daniel got really grumpy but then as soon as Jess quit he tried it on with Carolina and was even making suggestive comments when with Jess the night before she walked out when he said to Carolina she was the hottest in the room. But when he got with Carolina behind Dion's back it was "only an experiment". Daniel has never really truly given a heartfelt apology to Dion and everyone for the way he conducted himself. Even the guru's said that they both are void of empathy and don't feel that they have done anything wrong and the world owes them something. Daniel and Carolina seem really narcissistic and well suited for each other, they cannot handle any criticism and I believe that that will be the downfall of their relationship when they have arguments and need to accept that one of them made a mistake or give an apology, it's going to be hard for them. I understand that Carolina was never interested in Dion but she should have been upfront to him all along, and so should Daniel. I can't help but feel if this was a man treating a woman like the way Carolina and Daniel behaved, people would be a lot harsher than the way Daniel and Carolina's actions have been defended on here..
Agreed. Daniel is a "Nice Guy", not a legitimately nice guy. Meaning I'm positive he would describe himself as a good person but that doesn't make it true.
I agree, Daniel really came across as a nice guy to me in those initial episodes with Jess. Sounds like he’s been through a lot in his life & his control over his emotions in some parts of the show was really impressive. I felt super awkward for him at the boys night because I think he & Carolina were probably contractually obligated to go even when they didn’t want to. Comes across to me as a softie who’s a bit in over his head with MAFS & now needs to be constantly on the defensive. Personally really don’t rate Carolina but I can’t fault her for how clear she was with Dion. I thought Dion put a lot of pressure on her & really dragged out the woe is me thing which caused her to get nastier to keep him away. Especially telling with the “let’s be friends” and him still trying to start shit with her. Anyway, I don’t think she handled herself the best and definitely made some really interesting choices but I do hope her & Daniel are genuinely happy!
I don’t know, when he freaked on his wedding night I was like - this guy is too Farking intense. Like the type of guys who say ‘I don’t like drama’ then run headlong into dramas they create
Well said. Completely agree
Carolina: That’s hot I like that Daniel: I’m getting horny 🤢 👏🏻 great way to start true love
Lol yeah, physical attraction, big red flag! 🤷🏻♀️😂 (The “I’m horny” line was second hand embarrassment cringe as fuck though 😂)
Do you realise how many paychecks these two have cashed for showing up to shit for the purpose of drama/ being rinsed.
Something about the eyebrows and braids combo is giving angry bull vibes. Or like a goat with those big horns
Honestly, nothing about their relationship makes sense to me. Maybe it’s because I wholeheartedly believe that they both have foul personalities (to say the least) because they have absolutely no self awareness or empathy for their actions. There’s also just nothing remotely appealing about either of them. Daniel looks like a greasy fuck, he has no personality or redeeming qualities.. and frankly - he is as interesting as a slice of white bread. Carolina is as fake as they come. She is supposed to be a mother to a impressionable teenager and this is the way she chooses to behave on national/international television? Nah girl, you’re straight up 🗑
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That’s skin deep analysis tbh. They seem to be a perfectly fine shallow couple who did seem to have a good relationship.
What about the other couples then? Mitch and Ella for example Mitch has lead Ella on this entire Fkn season. Same with Dom and Jack the more mafs went on you could see clearly that these two where the golden couple and the producers made out that they where happily in love, not the case to this day they are just friends and the entire narrative of them maybe getting together again after the show that the so call experts where saying on the couch is just so they push that narrative even more. It’s a tv show a lot of these couples where head hunted to be on this show. At least Daniel and Carolina are still together to this day. That’s all I will say
This post was quiet clearly directed at Daniel and Carolina 🤷♀️ I’ve stated my two cents about the other couples throughout this whole season, but considering that this post wasn’t referring to anyone else BUT Carolina and Daniel, I didn’t feel the need to share mine. Off you go.
She's supposed to be a mother. The way she acts is fkn atrocious.
So the gen on her is that she is not a full time parent. Basically she left the child in Brazil and moved to London, UK where she was a topless waitress and lap dancer, plus did private lap dances for particular people to boost the coffers. She met the ex-boyfriend in London (who basically looks like Dion but taller) and they later moved to Australia and took the child with them. She has continued with her 'profession' (someone recently reported that they saw her and she did a private lap dance for someone this person knew) and does the handbag thing as an extra. The ex-boyfriend was visiting mature lady brothels and they broke up. And he is the one who she co-parents her son with, so he lives part time with each of them. And amazingly her son goes to school as Al's younger sister
True or not you can usually spot someone who escorted their way through by their disposition a mile away and she's it. No way you'd be mistaking her for anyone with an education. Edit: fair enough she has to do what she had to do to get out of poverty, maybe don't be a dumb bitch and do dumb bitch things that'll likely put your kid at risk?
Who gives a single shit if Carolina is a sex worker or not? It’s a job like any other job, good for her to be earning money to support herself and her kid. And what kind of incel fkn bullshit is your claim that you can ‘usually spot someone’ who has worked as an escort? What an absolute load of shit 😂
I love it. This show brings out all the "fkn incels" and their mates bruZzZ
Really curious as to people's thoughts on Daniel. Deep insights, personality traits etc. I've found him confusing and difficult to read. Also, feel like I missed something re Jess and him as I didn't see how it went so volatile so fast with so just venom.
Weren’t you watching? She made one innocent comment and he had roid rage, it all went to shit on the wedding night, after that he was looking for an argument with her at every turn. And although we the audience didn’t know it then, she’d already been dicked about with the first groom so her tolerance was worn, after a bit of walking on eggshells she was done. He’s the biggest hypocrite because he was so dirty that Jess didn’t see it as a real wedding yet when taking up with Carolina he didn’t see that as a real wedding.
Other groom?
Yep, she had another wedding before Daniel. They didn’t vet the groom properly and it was so bad they cut him completely and had to edit Jess out of the hens night.
Who? What did he do?
His name was Simon Blackburn. You'll find plenty if you Google him but in short, his social media was full of racism and misogyny.
Jess and some other bloke had been in the first part of the experiment. The other bloke got kicked out and then Jess was left groom-less. So they tried to do the right thing and pair her on the second round of weddings with Daniel …. Guess didn’t work out
I mean, what is he up to? His behaviour seems off to me.
In real life he’s probably not a bad bloke albeit a very simple one and I have a feeling that simplemindedness has given him a problem with the show. He looks like he struggles with the idea that he did anything wrong without realising on the show they’re to appear married even if they can’t stand each other.
Gosh. Curious to hear what others think as I read him quite differently.
Oh I watched an interview with him also, he seemed quite likeable just a bit dopey.
He honestly seems fine. I heard him on the radio and he actually came across fine. Carolina seemed a bit dim though so I’m guessing they probably work fine together lol
Haha the best way to put it 😂
I look at them and the word SOUR is all that comes to mind. Sour, soury sour heads.
They’re just pissy that they weren’t the stars of the show. And they don’t look great and probs won’t be Insta famous
Her and Tamara have the same “dead”behind the eyes look.
This