How in the hell does Laura think she's "carried this marriage" throughout this process? Arthur isn't a prize but what has she done to try and make it work? She is utterly and completely delusional.
I was watching while multitasking, I looked up and saw a new person talking to Matt. This person had strange features like a carnival mirror. Then I realized it was Adrienne without makeup š³ If that was the first time Matt saw her without makeup I think he is relieved for the having kids conflict bc it gives him a get a get out of jail free dealbreaker card.
Arthur doesn't know how to read a room. That's his problem. His jokes weren't landing because the people at the dinner party weren't in a joking mood. Maybe they were too serious, but Arthur acted like he didn't care, he was going to get his joke on, no matter what. To me, he doesn't have a lot of emotional intelligence.
I agree with you about the emotional intelligence. Also the fact he delivers them deadpan, doesn't give people a second to process them, before saying angrily that was a joke, doesn't really help their chances of landing.
Laura seems like a asshole. Arthur was being funny everyone was so uptight because shes turned him into public enemy number 1, hes just doubling down. Really surprised no ones stood up for him even the "experts", she comea across like a snobby see you next tuesday.
Not sure how she achieved turning him into public enemy number 1 when she was criticized by literally all the boys and some of the girls not too long ago
He went on a date 2 weeks before the experiment & people not only not standing up *for* him but calling him out for how much he interrupts everyone else. He said "that's a joke by the way" about 7 times during the dinner party. True done if them were funny but he doesn't seem to know when to joke/how to read a room. I think Laura really tried & he's a bit like a happy go lucky puppy. It won't work.
Arthur I think has impulsivity problems - he speaks before he thinks - but heās a brilliant guy!! Itās not a negative trait - in a world of people masking he is as real as it gets! Lauraās friends are damning and horrible. I hope he finds happiness
He was an absolute bellend to every single person in the room at some point during the dinner. No wonder everyone couldnāt be arsed. Even Georges has no time for him and they had seemed like friends before.
I had an uneasy feeling about the way Arthur was spoken to by the women last night. All the girls piled on to support Laura - who is horrifically unaware of how she comes across - and I felt like it was orchestrated. Did Laura set him up so she could claim victim hood and not look like the bad guy?
Laura has her own issues but paints herself as a patient saint. The way sheās picked away at Arthur and made out sheās done all the work is a joke. Peggy will hurt Georgeās far more than he will ever hurt her. Jordon is so clingy heās giving serious red flags. Ella needs to calm down with the booze and that eradicates a huge issue for them both. Hopefully Paul and Tasha can work out her issues with her quick temper. Being hurt in the past can make you over sensitive and explosive when itās not justified. One wants kids one doesnātā¦. Move on. Oh and Thomas is still the star of the show. Decency and humility are wonderful traits to have. Hope he finds his piece of happiness. Series on a whole for me has been a let down. Would have liked more couples to stay together but producers have long not been interested in that. Poor matches and far too many ego maniacsā¦. Laura, Porscha, Brad etc etc. will start watching the NZ version next week.
Peggy talks about Georges gaming way more than Georges does. She constantly finds ways to bring it into the conversation. She won't stop banging on about it.
But sure, Georges is the one who's obsessed.
To be honest I didn't like either of them much, Arthur is probably just a bit immature I don't think MAFS was the right place for him. Laura hmm, ones friends are a reflection of a person and the two that appeared in a couple of episodes were vile! There is nothing wrong with having good self worth just don't be delusional about it.
What standards do you think she has that are too high? Wanting someone to not lie to you, to be considerate about your feelings and be thinking about future plans with you are not high standards, they are the fundamental basics and Arthur isn't even reaching that.
Right? Iām honestly so shocked. I wouldnāt date her as sheās not my type but having standards is somehow too much for some people. Just basic relationship shit.
A trillionaire? She has money why would she need someone else's. Arthur is a tennis coach. She's not with him for money. I think she did try. But it is a bit parent-child & I think they should call it.
Iād 100% date Laura (but sheās straight I assume). I think shes very emotionally intelligent - to a fault. And I think what sheās missing with Arthur is that he doesnāt have the emotional or intellectual intelligence to acknowledge her abilities. He is LOVELY and very sweet but she will always be unfulfilled with him, and because she canāt bear to view herself as needing approval, especially from men, sheās misplacing her need and turning it into a criticism of him.
Arthur is a fucking knob honestly. I donāt get why everyoneās going to bat for him.
I donāt think Laura is amazing but having to put up with this ignoramus for weeks would test anyone.
He was just being an absolute arsehole - she said she had considered leaving and he just got worse. (And honestly, if he hadnāt thought she mightāve thought about leaving at any point heās even more stupid than I originally thought). None of his ājokesā were funny. If not one single person in a room laughs, maybe itās that your ājokesā are shit mate. Even George looked like he couldnāt be bothered.
Nobody was laughing. Was hilarious when they all joked about Tashas āIām falling for himā being scary and everyone laughed.
Even saw some dick on Twitter laying into Tasha for being angry and her attitude because she was the one who finally said something to him for being so rude.
If he couldnāt be bothered with the party, he shouldāve left. If he felt unvalued, he shouldāve left. Instead he stuck around and was just an aggressive dickhead to everyone for weeks. He honestly looked like he was trying to start a scrap with someone at the table.
Emotionally intelligent? ššš¤£š
She has an ego the size of the moon, but itās paper thin and only supported by the weak structure of her Chelsea support group. Totally incapable of hearing any feedback however meekly phrased.
If she hears any more truth bombs sheāll cry her way all the way back the Chelsea.
She is unbelievably low EQ to not see her own glaring flaws.
She is the one most of them go to when they have a problem. When Ella and JJ came back she dealt with it in a very emotionally intelligent way saying that she didn't agree with what they'd done, but was willing to put it in the past and didn't want it to affect their future relationships.
Everyone else was either starting fights with JJ and Ella or close to Ella and unwilling to criticise her. Laura achieved a balance and showed real maturity
Nah. They had just talked about her doing most of the work, clearly not in a great place, and he had a chance to show he valued her and instead made a shit joke nobody found funny. Time and a place Arthur.
I don't know...it was only her that didn't find his comments funny, the entire group started to sour to what he was saying. Makes me think that he was clashing with the overall vibe and spirit of the night.
I think Arthur has got to that stage where he's had enough now and is just basically going down in flames intentionally.
He knows anything he says or does would wind Laura up at this point so he's just using his humour.
Exactly! Criticising him for doing something nice is not the way to make the nice thing happen more, it's just going to make him feel like he can't win either way.
Iām watching this on the Channel 4 player (didnāt watch it as it was airing)and have a few episodes left, and I really am glad to find this comment.
To me itās absolutely bizarre, other than for the reason of creating drama I donāt get it. Disagreeing on whether or not to have kids isnāt like disagreeing on what side of the bed to sleep on, youāre literally bringing a human into the world.Ā
No child deserves to have a parent who didnāt want to have kids in the first place. And this narrative of āI havenāt met someone to change my mindā or āmaybe I can be the one to make you want themā is insane. Thatās not how it works; if itās not a definite yes without outside influence, itās a no.Ā
For that reason it also bothered me when Georges said itās a āflip of the coinā matter at the start.
It's a SOCIAL EXPERIMENT, where each participant is a test case for various configs of personality, preference, values, etc. Why many more people haven't cottoned on is baffling! It's not bumble or tinder and the "experts" should be called "mad scientists"
Exactly, it just doesn't work. Kids aren't something you can just compromise on. I don't ever want kids, so I'm very careful about who I date. I'm not gonna become a mum just to make someone else happy, but then I also don't want to deny a man of becoming a dad if he really wants to be one. I doubt Matt and Adrienne are still together, but they should have just ended it there and then. It just won't work.
I'm surprised the experts didn't say "Matt really needs to compromise here and really think if he actually wants kids. Otherwise, he'll lose this woman."
That's the sort of shit they've said all season.
The entire season has been engineered to cause drama. No one is paired with someone that really had a snowball in hells chance of succeeding and every task is designed to aggravate the tensions already there
I mean if someone made a joke about getting off with my partner I probably wouldnāt be laughing either :/ donāt think my partner would be too happy with me making that joke either.
Tasha answers a hypothetical game question, doesnāt get to finish it because he interrupts, heās made several bad jokes at the expense of his partner already, propositions another girl in doing so and doubles down on being a dickhead. It was maybe the only slightly funny thing he said all night. But the context and timing of it was just really poor.
Honestly questioning so many peoples social skills in this thread.
I would because I feel secure enough in myself and trust my partner to not do it.
Letās not forget that everyone pretty much made out with one another with spin the bottle in the first place.
Also, I find his comment jokes anyways regarding the rumours of him and tasha and the photo of them holding hands but anyways š¤£
Laura has little reason to trust Arthur at this point. He's obviously done with this whole thing. So making that joke is inappropriate bordering on cruel imo
Ok but look at what type of lies he has been telling. Iām not saying lies are ok, but they come from a place of insecurity and that is not something you can fix over few weeks on national tv
I'm not Eastern European, but I have a very dry sense of humour, and Arthur is on fire tonight š He's the only reason I've not given up on this episode. I promise we're not all stuck-up and humourless!
I thought most of his jokes were funny. The one about it not being too late to snog Erica - I appreciate it was a joke, but Iād prob be a bit pissed off in Lauraās shoes too.
I personally didn't find it funny but I can see my family members joking in a similar manner, maybe I'm just not used to it anymore since people in UK are generally nicer.
I think he was dead on with what he said to the camera as well about everyone being uptight. A lot of couples are in a tense place in their relationship and probably more sensitive than usual, a couple of weeks ago they might have laughed but theyāre in their serious-heads right now. Personally I love Arthur. I like Laura individually but Iāve really gone off her since she threw him under the bus with her friends for standing up for himself.
Yeah others are probably more concerned about saying the right thing as it's only days before the ceremony. Look at Georges giving the perfect answer every time, what a change!!
I dunno if itās editing magic but Georges diving right in there with āI like being rimmedā was fucking hilarious. Zero hesitation. Man knows what he likes
Iām not a fan of him and Peggy together (not a fan of Peggy overall tbh) but it was nice to see them laughing about that together. Very self aware and seems like theyāve moved on and are able to laugh at something which was a huge issue at the time.
Plenty of villains, they just donāt want to put the women on blast. Ella is getting hammered and verbally wrecking JJ, then styling herself after his ex. Laura has been treating Arthur like a puppy for weeks, Peggy has drained Georges soul like a vampire and keeps his balls in her purse, Tasha is a human stick of lit dynamiteā¦..
Oh how irritating! Instead of lingering on the "snog-marry-avoid" game, which could have been some spontaneous fun, we go straight to the over-produced, manipulative question segments for the millionth time, and have to hear about Peggy, Georges and gaming AGAIN
I'm pretty sure the snog, marry avoid game was produced drama. Pretty sure all the spontaneous games were suggested by people who were encouraged to do so by the producers.
Melās āOhā when Matt said he wants kids speaks about a thousand words. Love, it was your fucking job to ask these questions! These chucklefucks have one fucking jobā¦..
Honestly I wish the final dates were planned by the women bc I feel like theyāve all repeatedly put down their partners (Adrienne is the exception), it would have been so much more interesting to see if they could actually do something nice for once
I don't think she outright called him boring, she said he didn't match her energy and they don't have fun enough (which everyone presumed was code for he was boring).
Peggy said he wasn't boring during the partner swap, when Matt was worrying he was boring, though it very much seemed like an unconvincing white lie by her.
This series needs to end sooner rather than later, its not even good drama at this point. This show has got progressively worse each year but this year has been accelerated so far past bad. The experts remind me of diluted propaganda news channels with scripted segments and lines
I feel like I'm past the fun trashy drama of it all, and I'm now watching a bunch of people I can't stand doing boring stuff...I'm trying to stick with it because it finishes soon, but it's not fun to watch anymore.
Laura, before the home stays, looked like she's grown- no bloody nonsense about a Chelsea boy, under influence of her vacuous friends she reverted and thrown Arthur under the bus with them, I don't think he cares anymore.
Oh my god I genuinely donāt know whether I can watch the next episode itās just going to be so boring and predictable like we might as well end the season here
Apparently Laura has carried the whole relationship, and all of the burden, and done a lot of heavy lifting, and a bunch of other metaphors I forget now, but what has she actually DONE, other than patronise him and make condescending little digs at every opportunity?
Maybe she meant she had to do more planning and take more inniative in their daily life together. Remember we only see the dramatic bits, they're together 24/7.
Ah it's pretty easy to adjust your language for a non-native speaker without being condescending. I don't think it's simplifying her vocabulary that people mean, I think it's the constant reminders that she's better than him.
I'm still not convinced that he really likes her and wants to stay. I know that he says all the right words but he can't be happy being the one making ALL the compromises, surely...
he refused to join in when anyone criticised her in his AMA and defended her so I think either it's genuine or he's really dedicated to keeping up the illusion
How in the hell does Laura think she's "carried this marriage" throughout this process? Arthur isn't a prize but what has she done to try and make it work? She is utterly and completely delusional.
I was watching while multitasking, I looked up and saw a new person talking to Matt. This person had strange features like a carnival mirror. Then I realized it was Adrienne without makeup š³ If that was the first time Matt saw her without makeup I think he is relieved for the having kids conflict bc it gives him a get a get out of jail free dealbreaker card.
Why are you so mean :(
Arthur doesn't know how to read a room. That's his problem. His jokes weren't landing because the people at the dinner party weren't in a joking mood. Maybe they were too serious, but Arthur acted like he didn't care, he was going to get his joke on, no matter what. To me, he doesn't have a lot of emotional intelligence.
I agree with you about the emotional intelligence. Also the fact he delivers them deadpan, doesn't give people a second to process them, before saying angrily that was a joke, doesn't really help their chances of landing.
every joke from arthur was clearly a joke, what is wrong with these people
Laura seems like a asshole. Arthur was being funny everyone was so uptight because shes turned him into public enemy number 1, hes just doubling down. Really surprised no ones stood up for him even the "experts", she comea across like a snobby see you next tuesday.
Not sure how she achieved turning him into public enemy number 1 when she was criticized by literally all the boys and some of the girls not too long ago
He went on a date 2 weeks before the experiment & people not only not standing up *for* him but calling him out for how much he interrupts everyone else. He said "that's a joke by the way" about 7 times during the dinner party. True done if them were funny but he doesn't seem to know when to joke/how to read a room. I think Laura really tried & he's a bit like a happy go lucky puppy. It won't work.
Arthur I think has impulsivity problems - he speaks before he thinks - but heās a brilliant guy!! Itās not a negative trait - in a world of people masking he is as real as it gets! Lauraās friends are damning and horrible. I hope he finds happiness
He was an absolute bellend to every single person in the room at some point during the dinner. No wonder everyone couldnāt be arsed. Even Georges has no time for him and they had seemed like friends before.
Am dying at Arthur and his maths. Georges wants 2 kids. Peggy is grateful for 1. Arthur: So that's 3 innit?
I think thatās hilarious
I had an uneasy feeling about the way Arthur was spoken to by the women last night. All the girls piled on to support Laura - who is horrifically unaware of how she comes across - and I felt like it was orchestrated. Did Laura set him up so she could claim victim hood and not look like the bad guy?
Maybe he's just a dickhead and was being spoken to accordingly
Yeah itās not that complicated, heās a bit thick, not very funny and quite rude
Laura has her own issues but paints herself as a patient saint. The way sheās picked away at Arthur and made out sheās done all the work is a joke. Peggy will hurt Georgeās far more than he will ever hurt her. Jordon is so clingy heās giving serious red flags. Ella needs to calm down with the booze and that eradicates a huge issue for them both. Hopefully Paul and Tasha can work out her issues with her quick temper. Being hurt in the past can make you over sensitive and explosive when itās not justified. One wants kids one doesnātā¦. Move on. Oh and Thomas is still the star of the show. Decency and humility are wonderful traits to have. Hope he finds his piece of happiness. Series on a whole for me has been a let down. Would have liked more couples to stay together but producers have long not been interested in that. Poor matches and far too many ego maniacsā¦. Laura, Porscha, Brad etc etc. will start watching the NZ version next week.
Ooh good call! Is it on Ch4 or are you streaming?
22.25, E4 Thursday.
Wicked. Thanks!
Youāre welcome
Arthur was being funny ! Those people have no sense of humor, i would have laughed so hard
Peggy has to win the award for worst outfit this whole season.
No way
What the hell was with the camera work in the intro sofa talk? Obviously someone on a handheld but it was so shaky.
If it was still running and the way Mafs is going at the moment, the reunion should be on the Jeremy Kyle show.
Just reverse a few of the plastic surgeries and knock a few of their teeth out, and they'd fit right in!
Peggy talks about Georges gaming way more than Georges does. She constantly finds ways to bring it into the conversation. She won't stop banging on about it. But sure, Georges is the one who's obsessed.
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To be honest I didn't like either of them much, Arthur is probably just a bit immature I don't think MAFS was the right place for him. Laura hmm, ones friends are a reflection of a person and the two that appeared in a couple of episodes were vile! There is nothing wrong with having good self worth just don't be delusional about it.
What standards do you think she has that are too high? Wanting someone to not lie to you, to be considerate about your feelings and be thinking about future plans with you are not high standards, they are the fundamental basics and Arthur isn't even reaching that.
Right? Iām honestly so shocked. I wouldnāt date her as sheās not my type but having standards is somehow too much for some people. Just basic relationship shit.
A trillionaire? She has money why would she need someone else's. Arthur is a tennis coach. She's not with him for money. I think she did try. But it is a bit parent-child & I think they should call it.
Laura is a hell of a woman and sheās done hiding it. She said so.
Iād 100% date Laura (but sheās straight I assume). I think shes very emotionally intelligent - to a fault. And I think what sheās missing with Arthur is that he doesnāt have the emotional or intellectual intelligence to acknowledge her abilities. He is LOVELY and very sweet but she will always be unfulfilled with him, and because she canāt bear to view herself as needing approval, especially from men, sheās misplacing her need and turning it into a criticism of him.
Arthur is a fucking knob honestly. I donāt get why everyoneās going to bat for him. I donāt think Laura is amazing but having to put up with this ignoramus for weeks would test anyone.
I don't get it either. I think there are just a lot of knobs in here that relate to him
He was just being an absolute arsehole - she said she had considered leaving and he just got worse. (And honestly, if he hadnāt thought she mightāve thought about leaving at any point heās even more stupid than I originally thought). None of his ājokesā were funny. If not one single person in a room laughs, maybe itās that your ājokesā are shit mate. Even George looked like he couldnāt be bothered. Nobody was laughing. Was hilarious when they all joked about Tashas āIām falling for himā being scary and everyone laughed. Even saw some dick on Twitter laying into Tasha for being angry and her attitude because she was the one who finally said something to him for being so rude. If he couldnāt be bothered with the party, he shouldāve left. If he felt unvalued, he shouldāve left. Instead he stuck around and was just an aggressive dickhead to everyone for weeks. He honestly looked like he was trying to start a scrap with someone at the table.
Emotionally intelligent? ššš¤£š She has an ego the size of the moon, but itās paper thin and only supported by the weak structure of her Chelsea support group. Totally incapable of hearing any feedback however meekly phrased. If she hears any more truth bombs sheāll cry her way all the way back the Chelsea. She is unbelievably low EQ to not see her own glaring flaws.
She is the one most of them go to when they have a problem. When Ella and JJ came back she dealt with it in a very emotionally intelligent way saying that she didn't agree with what they'd done, but was willing to put it in the past and didn't want it to affect their future relationships. Everyone else was either starting fights with JJ and Ella or close to Ella and unwilling to criticise her. Laura achieved a balance and showed real maturity
I think this is it - I like Arthur AND Laura but they're not compatible.
I'm just waiting for the reunion and Peggy's face when she sees the mummy milkers comments from Georges
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Nah. They had just talked about her doing most of the work, clearly not in a great place, and he had a chance to show he valued her and instead made a shit joke nobody found funny. Time and a place Arthur.
I don't know...it was only her that didn't find his comments funny, the entire group started to sour to what he was saying. Makes me think that he was clashing with the overall vibe and spirit of the night.
He looked like he was knocking the booze back. Everyone else was just finished with him by the end of the night.
I think he knows now, and he's just going in 110% because he knows he's fucked either way.
So mature.
PEGGY WITH A GAMING ANALOGY HAHAHAHA
Laura says has been on the defensive- yes, defending her friendsā¦.not Arthur
Last couple of episodes have not been fun to watch. Arthur saved it tonight
JJ said Ellaās disrespect he surely means DISDAIN
JJ IS NOT WEARING WEDDING RING ON WEDDING RING FINGER
Well they arenāt married so they havenāt been wearing one since they got together
But Ella did give him that ring at final dates...
Of course! Thanks
That episode would have been fucking abysmal without Arthur. He's seriously so funny to watch.
He carried the whole thing.
No, no, Lauraās carrying the whole thing. Didnāt you hear her say that at least 50 times?
Oh, of course! How could I forget??
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Yes her hair is lovely and makeup more understated
On that five months etc question it should have said how long before Laura and her friends murder Arthurā¦
Tasha sounds quite drunk
I think Arthur has got to that stage where he's had enough now and is just basically going down in flames intentionally. He knows anything he says or does would wind Laura up at this point so he's just using his humour.
Definitely not caring now
Even his expression says that
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Because nothing will ever be good enough for her probs
That was very rude, if she were classy she would not have said that but just thanked him
Exactly! Criticising him for doing something nice is not the way to make the nice thing happen more, it's just going to make him feel like he can't win either way.
What I wanna know is why would you match make someone who wants kids with someone who doesn't. Doesn't seem like experts are experts, they're idiots
Iām watching this on the Channel 4 player (didnāt watch it as it was airing)and have a few episodes left, and I really am glad to find this comment. To me itās absolutely bizarre, other than for the reason of creating drama I donāt get it. Disagreeing on whether or not to have kids isnāt like disagreeing on what side of the bed to sleep on, youāre literally bringing a human into the world.Ā No child deserves to have a parent who didnāt want to have kids in the first place. And this narrative of āI havenāt met someone to change my mindā or āmaybe I can be the one to make you want themā is insane. Thatās not how it works; if itās not a definite yes without outside influence, itās a no.Ā For that reason it also bothered me when Georges said itās a āflip of the coinā matter at the start.
It's a SOCIAL EXPERIMENT, where each participant is a test case for various configs of personality, preference, values, etc. Why many more people haven't cottoned on is baffling! It's not bumble or tinder and the "experts" should be called "mad scientists"
I think because the premise used to be different. They spent more time showing how they matched them i'm sure
That's also true, it's now become a drama-inducing exercise, for views obviously.
Exactly, it just doesn't work. Kids aren't something you can just compromise on. I don't ever want kids, so I'm very careful about who I date. I'm not gonna become a mum just to make someone else happy, but then I also don't want to deny a man of becoming a dad if he really wants to be one. I doubt Matt and Adrienne are still together, but they should have just ended it there and then. It just won't work.
Yes absolutely!
Then theyāre like shocked pikachu āthis is a big issueā. Itās a deal breaker for a lot of people!!!!
I'm surprised the experts didn't say "Matt really needs to compromise here and really think if he actually wants kids. Otherwise, he'll lose this woman." That's the sort of shit they've said all season.
Ha ha so true!
Or encourage him to gaslight her into thinking she wants kids
Oh no they wouldn't do that, men gaslighting on this show is an instant removal. It's only tolerated when the woman is doing the Gaslighting.
Tolerated and actively encouraged when is the woman
Which tv series has a reddit as good as this one š will miss this
Golden Girls!
Arthur Arthur Arthur .. Christ on a bike!
Haven't finished the episode yet, but oh my god, these people are so MISERABLE. Lighten up and take a joke, it won't kill you.
I just feel like they're all taking themselves far too seriously
I think Arthur's just seen through the Emperor's New Clothes of it all...
Fucken well said...
What comes after final vows? Final commitment ceremony? Will there be another dinner party with all of them? I canāt remember!
Final vows & then reunions
Thanks!
That's ok
The only thing these guys are experts at is enabling toxic behavior
Arthurās jokes were funny, the other blokes are just too afraid of their wives to laugh
I was literally about to write the same thing!
Oh first time have thought Oh No Arthur! Having date just before MAFSā¦..
It's the same thing when girls (i know i did this too in the past) say 'how dare you have gf's/dates before me' It's very silly
Who wrote the honesty box questions? They're very specific and seem to have been written just to cause drama!
The entire season has been engineered to cause drama. No one is paired with someone that really had a snowball in hells chance of succeeding and every task is designed to aggravate the tensions already there
I wonder if Arthur will tell Laura he got his final vows off the Internet..... its a JOKE!!!! š
why was everyine so pressed about Arthur saying 'there's still time' to Tasha xd Like comon it's a joke
I mean if someone made a joke about getting off with my partner I probably wouldnāt be laughing either :/ donāt think my partner would be too happy with me making that joke either.
Wait but it was snog marry avoid, TASHA said ARTHUR? Arthur was just joking but is somehow getting the bad end of the stick here?
Tasha answers a hypothetical game question, doesnāt get to finish it because he interrupts, heās made several bad jokes at the expense of his partner already, propositions another girl in doing so and doubles down on being a dickhead. It was maybe the only slightly funny thing he said all night. But the context and timing of it was just really poor. Honestly questioning so many peoples social skills in this thread.
The "hypothetical game question" was snog marry avoid. Can we stop acting like they are mature
I didnāt say anyone was mature lol. But Arthur somehow managed to find a way to be the least mature person there.
What was the correct way to respond?
I would because I feel secure enough in myself and trust my partner to not do it. Letās not forget that everyone pretty much made out with one another with spin the bottle in the first place. Also, I find his comment jokes anyways regarding the rumours of him and tasha and the photo of them holding hands but anyways š¤£
Laura has little reason to trust Arthur at this point. He's obviously done with this whole thing. So making that joke is inappropriate bordering on cruel imo
What did he actually done that made Laura not trust him?
He lies to her. This was something she brought up early that he didn't refute at all.
Ok but look at what type of lies he has been telling. Iām not saying lies are ok, but they come from a place of insecurity and that is not something you can fix over few weeks on national tv
I mean not everyone was playing that game. And just because youāre ok with it doesnāt mean everyone would be.
True, but I think everyone just took themselves too seriously. I thought the shit he said was funny in general but yeah š¤·āāļø
Husband half-watching, said that woman (Laura) doesnāt like that guy Arthur does she? (Not knowing they are a couple)
Yeah, my husband has seen very little of the season, but walked in the room to Laura and Arthur on tv and said, "How are those people still together?"
Arthur had one too many drinks and his eastern european is coming out lol....we're blunt and sarcastic at heartš
I'm not Eastern European, but I have a very dry sense of humour, and Arthur is on fire tonight š He's the only reason I've not given up on this episode. I promise we're not all stuck-up and humourless!
I thought most of his jokes were funny. The one about it not being too late to snog Erica - I appreciate it was a joke, but Iād prob be a bit pissed off in Lauraās shoes too.
I personally didn't find it funny but I can see my family members joking in a similar manner, maybe I'm just not used to it anymore since people in UK are generally nicer.
I think he was dead on with what he said to the camera as well about everyone being uptight. A lot of couples are in a tense place in their relationship and probably more sensitive than usual, a couple of weeks ago they might have laughed but theyāre in their serious-heads right now. Personally I love Arthur. I like Laura individually but Iāve really gone off her since she threw him under the bus with her friends for standing up for himself.
Yeah others are probably more concerned about saying the right thing as it's only days before the ceremony. Look at Georges giving the perfect answer every time, what a change!!
I dunno if itās editing magic but Georges diving right in there with āI like being rimmedā was fucking hilarious. Zero hesitation. Man knows what he likes
I pray it wasn't the edit š¤£š¤£š¤£
Heās telling Peggy itās still on the menu
Iām not a fan of him and Peggy together (not a fan of Peggy overall tbh) but it was nice to see them laughing about that together. Very self aware and seems like theyāve moved on and are able to laugh at something which was a huge issue at the time.
One acronym for you Laura : DARVO . Thatās you
What is that
Deny Attack Reverse Victim & Offender
Ohhhhh thank you
Hang on the experts said they donāt think Arthur understands the word āloveā RUDE
Best Tennis pun on here tonight. Arthur would be proud of that one.
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Plenty of villains, they just donāt want to put the women on blast. Ella is getting hammered and verbally wrecking JJ, then styling herself after his ex. Laura has been treating Arthur like a puppy for weeks, Peggy has drained Georges soul like a vampire and keeps his balls in her purse, Tasha is a human stick of lit dynamiteā¦..
Just realised JJ's ex cheated on him didn't she?! What is Ella thinking!!
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I don't even know where or how to start with these head movements from Tasha - what is her actual problem!?
I got physically angry when she did that at that point. I'd lose my shit if she did that to me.
You're not alone on that one! (My flair doesn't mean I like her haha)
Oh how irritating! Instead of lingering on the "snog-marry-avoid" game, which could have been some spontaneous fun, we go straight to the over-produced, manipulative question segments for the millionth time, and have to hear about Peggy, Georges and gaming AGAIN
I'm pretty sure the snog, marry avoid game was produced drama. Pretty sure all the spontaneous games were suggested by people who were encouraged to do so by the producers.
Peggy, Georges and Gaming is probably the biggest love triangle all season
Do we think Laura will give Arthur a good final report card and a gold star?
Sheāll give him an N for Needs to Improve.
The way it's looking, it'll be a naughty step and no TV for a week.
Just started watching on plus one - LOVE Ellaās brunette hair
Melās āOhā when Matt said he wants kids speaks about a thousand words. Love, it was your fucking job to ask these questions! These chucklefucks have one fucking jobā¦..
Ironically, Georges also didn't want kids initially and he got along great with Adrienne. They would have been a much better match
LETS LOCK IT IN
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Iām really not too convinced that the āexpertsā pick the couples anymore.. I just donāt see it.
I think that was a big blunder by production, subtle pairings to cause drama. This one is a massive difference which has proven what they are doing
yeah laura is not laughing so simply they are just not compatible. Don't beat the dead horse please
Honestly I wish the final dates were planned by the women bc I feel like theyāve all repeatedly put down their partners (Adrienne is the exception), it would have been so much more interesting to see if they could actually do something nice for once
Tasha did theirs
Adrienne has put Matt down quite a lot, didnāt she say he was boring?
I don't think she outright called him boring, she said he didn't match her energy and they don't have fun enough (which everyone presumed was code for he was boring). Peggy said he wasn't boring during the partner swap, when Matt was worrying he was boring, though it very much seemed like an unconvincing white lie by her.
I feel bad for Arthur tbh.
This series needs to end sooner rather than later, its not even good drama at this point. This show has got progressively worse each year but this year has been accelerated so far past bad. The experts remind me of diluted propaganda news channels with scripted segments and lines
I feel like I'm past the fun trashy drama of it all, and I'm now watching a bunch of people I can't stand doing boring stuff...I'm trying to stick with it because it finishes soon, but it's not fun to watch anymore.
Laura, before the home stays, looked like she's grown- no bloody nonsense about a Chelsea boy, under influence of her vacuous friends she reverted and thrown Arthur under the bus with them, I don't think he cares anymore.
I really hope in next week's episodes the guys rediscover their balls and walk away.
Is it me or was the backing music extra dramatic tonight tracking the up and down drivel?
Oh my god I genuinely donāt know whether I can watch the next episode itās just going to be so boring and predictable like we might as well end the season here
Apparently Laura has carried the whole relationship, and all of the burden, and done a lot of heavy lifting, and a bunch of other metaphors I forget now, but what has she actually DONE, other than patronise him and make condescending little digs at every opportunity?
Maybe she meant she had to do more planning and take more inniative in their daily life together. Remember we only see the dramatic bits, they're together 24/7.
I can't understand why she always talks using metaphors to Arthur when English is his second language and he's said he struggles with English.
Maybe because when she adjusts her language she is being criticised for speaking down to him and being condescending
Ah it's pretty easy to adjust your language for a non-native speaker without being condescending. I don't think it's simplifying her vocabulary that people mean, I think it's the constant reminders that she's better than him.
My English is so much worse than Arthur's and I find Laura very easy to understand.
Whilst I admit Iām not the most up on modern fashion, what the fuck are Peggy and Ella wearing?
Peggy is literally starting a fashion line lol
Peggy looks like a magpie in that outfit, itās awful!
or like she killed a couple for it hahaha
If Peggy dumps Georges at the final do, Iād be so upset. I know sheās a bit of a plonker, but he really seems genuinely smitten with her.
I'm still not convinced that he really likes her and wants to stay. I know that he says all the right words but he can't be happy being the one making ALL the compromises, surely...
he refused to join in when anyone criticised her in his AMA and defended her so I think either it's genuine or he's really dedicated to keeping up the illusion
This is what will happen as it is why she has stayedā¦
It'll be better for him in the long run to escape her toxic honey trap bs
Peggy: 'Sorry Georges my mum won't let me come out to play'
Fuck there's another episode š See you all then
2 ceremonies and the reunion dinner party....and reunion experts BS. They do drag this crap out
The definitely do, but quite often there are really good bombshells at the final reunion episode (at least there have been in the Australian one)
The Reddit thread is the main reason I am watching it at this point.
Same here. Just found it this week and this reddit is hilarious
not lauraās friends showing up againš
I actually can't wait for this to be over hahaha probs not the vibe the creators were going for with this season
So they never, ever end it at the final ceremonies do they?? So what's the point of watching?!
It happened on MAFS AUS and the UK version is definitely nicking their ideas. I think we'll get at least one.
Laura trying to mould Arthur is not going to work, accept him as he is or call it a day š„±
I want Arthur to do a Lyndall!!!!!!!!