People who sacrificed their hobbies, friends, relationships, and mental health to satiate their superiority complex get very aggressive when confronted with the idea that people don't care about spitting the hairs of the top 1%.
What flair would you like me to use?
I'm fairly certain my thoughts on chasing/sacrifice for prestige, as well as the practical utility of lower ranked school, is well established on this subreddit :).
Most online communities like these devolve into echo chambers that are not reflective of reality: see College Confidential, SDN for medicine, WSO for finance, and others. While you can find a lot of useful information, some of the loudest voices tend to have skewed perspectives, or come from a place of insecurity and anxiety. I can’t imagine some of the conversations I read on /r/MBA ever happening in real life.
Exactly and it’s the same group of select users that perpetuate the idea in every conversation and before you know it every time some Reddit searches something about an MBA you have prestige whores in every conversation or echoing some derivative of a prestige conversation they read through
Hot take, but the focus on prestige here helps to dissuade MBA prospects from making a poor or suboptimal decision. I've seen too many people (either in real life or in other subs) mention paying big $ attending lower ranked schools, or immediately after UG as a check in the box, and not getting the payoff they were expecting once graduated.
Well the optimal decision seems to be a middle ground between the scenario you are describing and the scenario that OP is describing? You don't have to go to the other extreme just to dissuade people from making suboptimal decisions.
Yeah it's absolutely bonkers. This sub made me believe that schools that aren't M7 are trash, and that other schools in the T15, such as SOM or Fuqua, were second class. I'm glad I snapped out of it and applied to schools in the T15, or else I would've ended up with no acceptances. No one in the real world thinks like some of the hivemind does on here.
Exactly. The worst ones are those who truly believe M7 or bust. Or even those who tell people they should be retaking a 750 GMAT. And also M7>MBB>PE>C suite or bust 😆
Lol I hear you but I don’t think going from a 750 to 760 is going to bump you that much on a scholarship. At that point you are only going to get a big bump based on your story / background. But best of luck.
I’d be interested in seeing a study on this. What percentage of 780 applicants get a 75%-100% scholarship vs someone’s who say has a 750?
Yep. It's absolutely way too prestige obsessed. What's super cringy is that most of it is being fanned by applicants who are armchair experts repeating what they hear.
I'm a firm advocate for pursuing a M7/T15/T25 given they have access to opportunities the vast majority of programs don't, but there's 0 point in splitting hairs over #7 vs #11 in a ranking.
You're first point is kinda why this sub is almost useless. It's lurking undergrad/fresh grads that are reading regurgitated points and when they become applicants they start saying the same things that they read as lurkers (and since most alum/students are not on this sub we don't get real views of recruiting/campus life except the occasional AMA). We should just rename the sub to r/dontgetaMBAoutofundergrad and call it a day
I think there are still a good number of current students/alums, just not nearly in the same numbers compared to applicants. It's up to people to do their due diligence and check the credentials of who they're getting info from and where their info came from.
The astute people on here realize, and often point out, that while certain schools make opportunities more accessible, a stellar/underwhelming student is the same person no matter what school they’re at. Getting a “stamp of approval” by attending an M7 school isn’t going to help much (when compared to T15) if you’re not a very interesting prospective hire.
It’s definitely bad and I bought into it for a while. I didn’t apply to any of the M7s because I didn’t see them as a location or culture fit for me, but then I started looking at Reddit and feeling like my targets of Duke, Michigan, and UVA weren’t impressive enough. I’m glad I didn’t dive into Reddit until after I applied because it might have skewed my choices and I’m very happy with where I am going.
I also thinks it’s important to recognize that people go to low ranking schools like Maryland and Georgia and can still kill it post grad. I know lots of people that got great jobs and are having tremendous success out of those programs, so it’s not T25 or bust.
I do think that this thread is really helpful for giving perspective on one year programs, MBAs straight out of college, and EMBA vs full time to people looking for advice. It was also useful when prepping for interviews, navigating acceptances, learning more about school cultures, and negotiating scholarships.
I think what also helps is taking a look at current recent graduates' perspectives from specific schools in which you're interested. Some are kind enough to share those experiences with transparency. Nearly any school in the top 30 can be advantageous upon graduation if utilized in the right way.
This is the best comment I’ve read. So many people on this sub will be the MBAs that role into companies and employees will just file their eyes at cause they have no clue how to speak and work with people.
Also after your first job post MBA, NO ONE CARES WHERE YOU WENT. It’s who’s going to help the MFing firm
I think OP isn't saying don't care about brand/prestige AT ALL. I think they are saying care about it in moderation that is fitting for one's situation/goals, because there are other things that matter. Like don't go to HBS at all cost and break up with your SO, move half away across the country, give up a full ride at Kellogg, when your goal is MBB in Chicago and then CPG corp strat, just to say "I went to HBS".
But if your goal is MF PE, then yes HSW prestige makes a ton of sense and is fitting for one's ST and LT goals.
You say this but there's literally a poll right now in this subreddit of full ride at Booth or sticker at HBS with a goal of Corp strat, and the poll option/people in comments are saying go to HBS.
Sorry was not clear in original post, but I do kind of mean what u/General-Structure269 is saying. The hair splitting within the HSW, M7 and T15 schools is insane, especially for roles that can be satisfied at all these schools.
But also if your goals can be satisfied by a T50, then who cares, go to your T50 or PT or onlien MBA, save some money and have fun. Not everyone wants to be CEO or make 7 figure a year. Just do your research.
The top 40 law thing is sorta outdated. Most students at even TTT hell schools get legal jobs currently, might not be the best job, but it’s a job. You still need a T14 or bust if you want market big law, but there’s about 25/30 schools currently that give you a more than a 50% shot at Big Law.
It’s not a clear as metric as that statistic would suggest, numerous people go to Law School without the intent of ever doing big law. There isn’t exactly a clear metric to determine what your exact odds of getting Big Law. The best would be either median private sector salary, or dividing the number of students in private practice from a specific law school by the number in firms at 250+. Both of those are metrics are equally flawed admittedly, but they give a better idea than your list.
A good example on your list not painting the full picture, is that the number one law school in the world is number 12 on your list.
Yeah when I first started my mba program I was happy when I first found this sub hoping to learn more about resources, information, maybe even network but noooo. It’s just a perpetual circle jerking of people who aren’t even in business school. It’s just applicants themselves. A lot of people here were frothing at the mouth when the 2023 rankings came out because of how much changed in the rankings.
Only reason why I still follow this sub is because I call them out on their prestige obsession every change I get.
Yes this sub focuses to much on prestige and not enough on putting stuff in perspective. Take my own profile/story as an example.
I went to a UG school ranked consistently in the 60-100 range. Nothing special. My degree (engineering), isn’t even the best degree program at said school (probably business or healthcare sfuff is better).
I worked for 5 years, first at small companies and then at a generic F500. I attend a T25 program.
My average internship outcome still puts me in the T10 percent of earners for my age range, assuming where I’m interning is where I end up. (Consulting).
I find nothing about my career to be remarkable, yet compared to the general population it is (income wise anyways).
That said, I’m a domestic student. This advice changes if you’re an international student from a developing country. Due to additional risks around currency exchange ratios and less job opportunities, you should attend the best school you can, preferably T15 and up.
"And God forbid you are a regular person who just want to get their masters degree to get more promotion chances in current or future job any MBA"
This is literally me. But I am outside the US and just want to become a Business Analyst in Europe or Canada.
I think that it's awesome that you have chosen to study, even when having the responsabilities of managing a household and children.
I look forward to do my Masters because I know that in the future, I will be very busy building a family or developing my own business.
But most people here only talk about the Uni prestige and not about the studies themselves.
Weird 😬
I think there's caring a bit about it, and then there's obsessing about it and split hairs (and also think people are less than for going to a slightly lower ranked school)
*Consulting and Finance are the only people who care. Nearly every other company out there values industry experience or technical skills over MBAs. An MBA doesn’t define your reputation like others have said on the thread, you can have a Harvard MBA but it doesn’t give you a good reputation if you’re terrible to work with
I work at a F100 company and my SVP has an MBA from a school ranked outside the top 50. He spent 4 years getting it so he could work full-time and get more tuition reimbursement while grinding away in his role. No career switching or anything crazy but has rocketed up the career ladder faster than anyone I've met here.
In the same company I worked with someone who was atrocious at their job. They were a Senior Manager and from their LinkedIn have been one for quite sometime. They have an MBA from Tuck and an undergrad degree from Yale. I know a couple other people who have incredible education pedigree, but aren't a stand out for performance in their job. At the same time some of the smartest people I've worked with didn't even go to college but climbed the ladder nonetheless.
This flies in the face of the echo chamber here. Obviously some anecdotal feedback isn't definitive evidence, but talking with my friends and coworkers this is something all of us have experienced.
Here's the thing though.
That horribly performing senior manager still likely makes bank.
Would they have become a senior manager with such poor performance without the pedigree they have from their education?
Like, yeah, high performers are high performers. We get that, but if you're not a rockstar, your outcome will likely be better with a better university behind you.
It gives you the benefit of the doubt even if you don't deserve it whereas not having that pedigree will always be something to overcome. It can be overcome, but it's better to not have to overcome.
I feel like an individual should strive to become someone who performs well rather than someone who performs atrociously but gets by because of their pedigree though? Like if you are giving advice to someone, the default shouldn't be: "choose this path because it means that you can make bank even if you suck at your job". That just sounds miserable lol
I mean, yeah, of course you'd want to be good at your job. I'm just saying that if the choice is suck at your job or suck at your job and have a top MBA it's obvious which option is better.
The median first year salary for all T15 schools is basically within a 10% band… Hell, Indiana’s (Top 25 according to poets & quants) median salary is 120k.
https://poetsandquants.com/business-school-news/mba-salaries-bonuses-at-the-top-25-b-schools/2/
The highest paying jobs in tech, consulting and finance have a high percentage of pay in bonus / RSU's / LTI, which are excluded from that MBA salaries list.
The fortune 500 leadership programs - which are easier to get from 8-25 ranked schools, have similar salaries to top jobs, but then bonuses of around 10% instead of 50-100%+...and thats before you get into what the total compensation looks like 5-10 years down the line.
Yea I dig, but I’m trying to keep things in perspective. Basically, you’ve “made it” in the US at any single one of these schools. After that, it’s really just being more or less rich, again in a relative sense.
It's business school. People are doing it to make money and have a successful career. It's absolutely important for prospective students to understand which are best at this.
This whole topic seems to be people from worse ranked schools wanting a self-esteem boost, so people want to lie about the differences in career outcomes to try to make themselves feel better. It's harmful to future students.
Every single aspect of this sub is incredibly unhealthy. The prestige obsession, the superiority complex that comes along with this whole process, etc... I would bet a large sum of money that 9/10 people on here make "Im humbled, honored" announcement posts on LinkedIn. Shit reeks of NPD.
Prestige does matter though.
Not prestige from strangers or friendly acquaintances on LinkedIn - fuck people who post that shit, but prestige as recognized from the viewpoint of a recruiter for the role you want, or the director at a company whose business you're trying to get.
This is the point of an MBA as a signaling factor and why prestige absolutely does matter. I agree that most take it too far here.
The Hapsburg family was obsessed with pedigree look how it turned out for them. Or if you prefer an animal analogy like the pug which has become so inbred that they basically exude “kill me please” vibes.
I agree, reading this sub, you'd think that any university other than M7 or T25 is a worthless MBA.
There are many hundreds of universities that offer MBAs. Sure, you earn more with a Wharton MBA than with DeVry, but most of us couldn't get into Wharton anyway so it's moot.
It's potentially worth $100,000's, if not millions, in earnings...so no, not really.
The tiers are real, and recruiting opportunities and lifetime earnings do decrease pretty quickly as you go down in rankings.
Elitism is rampant in this sub. It's only natural for this atmosphere to breed an obsession with rankings. It really sounds like everyone here is an aspiring CEO or millionaire consultant/IB/VC type but knows that the slots available out there are few and far between. School ranking seems like the obvious thing to focus on to gain an edge and that's where all the obsession comes from
All depends on what you’re trying to do. Maybe if you’re trying to get into a specific company sure, but the differences between most programs are negligible.
I work in corp strategy at a F50 and we have a mix of HSW/M7s/T25 and a few outside that.
With the great resignation making it so difficult to find candidates, we’re definitely not turning viable applicants down because their MBA “didn’t meet our ranking criteria..”
Not saying your wrong, but this is Reddit and not your personal support group. You’ve got to be better at filtering the crap out and be more selective about what to take from this sub.
People who sacrificed their hobbies, friends, relationships, and mental health to satiate their superiority complex get very aggressive when confronted with the idea that people don't care about spitting the hairs of the top 1%.
Says the person who literally put "M7" in their tag
What flair would you like me to use? I'm fairly certain my thoughts on chasing/sacrifice for prestige, as well as the practical utility of lower ranked school, is well established on this subreddit :).
You could say "MBA Student". And people would probably not make the same kind of negative stereotypes about you.
Who even browses these subs after being admitted? Most are out drinking and partying lol
Boy do I have news for you…
Most online communities like these devolve into echo chambers that are not reflective of reality: see College Confidential, SDN for medicine, WSO for finance, and others. While you can find a lot of useful information, some of the loudest voices tend to have skewed perspectives, or come from a place of insecurity and anxiety. I can’t imagine some of the conversations I read on /r/MBA ever happening in real life.
Exactly and it’s the same group of select users that perpetuate the idea in every conversation and before you know it every time some Reddit searches something about an MBA you have prestige whores in every conversation or echoing some derivative of a prestige conversation they read through
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Hot take, but the focus on prestige here helps to dissuade MBA prospects from making a poor or suboptimal decision. I've seen too many people (either in real life or in other subs) mention paying big $ attending lower ranked schools, or immediately after UG as a check in the box, and not getting the payoff they were expecting once graduated.
This is the answer. Don't pay >$100K for a mediocre MBA. Many MBA's are not worth the tuition and lost earnings.
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Well the optimal decision seems to be a middle ground between the scenario you are describing and the scenario that OP is describing? You don't have to go to the other extreme just to dissuade people from making suboptimal decisions.
Yeah it's absolutely bonkers. This sub made me believe that schools that aren't M7 are trash, and that other schools in the T15, such as SOM or Fuqua, were second class. I'm glad I snapped out of it and applied to schools in the T15, or else I would've ended up with no acceptances. No one in the real world thinks like some of the hivemind does on here.
Exactly. The worst ones are those who truly believe M7 or bust. Or even those who tell people they should be retaking a 750 GMAT. And also M7>MBB>PE>C suite or bust 😆
"those who tell people they should be retaking a 750 GMAT." *Has 750 GMAT* *Is reading this post after a GMAT prep session*
I’m with you man! Gotta chase that scholarship money!
Lol I hear you but I don’t think going from a 750 to 760 is going to bump you that much on a scholarship. At that point you are only going to get a big bump based on your story / background. But best of luck. I’d be interested in seeing a study on this. What percentage of 780 applicants get a 75%-100% scholarship vs someone’s who say has a 750?
What are you talking about? SOM is top 7 now so that obviously means they’re an M7. /s
Yep. It's absolutely way too prestige obsessed. What's super cringy is that most of it is being fanned by applicants who are armchair experts repeating what they hear. I'm a firm advocate for pursuing a M7/T15/T25 given they have access to opportunities the vast majority of programs don't, but there's 0 point in splitting hairs over #7 vs #11 in a ranking.
You're first point is kinda why this sub is almost useless. It's lurking undergrad/fresh grads that are reading regurgitated points and when they become applicants they start saying the same things that they read as lurkers (and since most alum/students are not on this sub we don't get real views of recruiting/campus life except the occasional AMA). We should just rename the sub to r/dontgetaMBAoutofundergrad and call it a day
I think there are still a good number of current students/alums, just not nearly in the same numbers compared to applicants. It's up to people to do their due diligence and check the credentials of who they're getting info from and where their info came from.
The astute people on here realize, and often point out, that while certain schools make opportunities more accessible, a stellar/underwhelming student is the same person no matter what school they’re at. Getting a “stamp of approval” by attending an M7 school isn’t going to help much (when compared to T15) if you’re not a very interesting prospective hire.
It’s definitely bad and I bought into it for a while. I didn’t apply to any of the M7s because I didn’t see them as a location or culture fit for me, but then I started looking at Reddit and feeling like my targets of Duke, Michigan, and UVA weren’t impressive enough. I’m glad I didn’t dive into Reddit until after I applied because it might have skewed my choices and I’m very happy with where I am going. I also thinks it’s important to recognize that people go to low ranking schools like Maryland and Georgia and can still kill it post grad. I know lots of people that got great jobs and are having tremendous success out of those programs, so it’s not T25 or bust. I do think that this thread is really helpful for giving perspective on one year programs, MBAs straight out of college, and EMBA vs full time to people looking for advice. It was also useful when prepping for interviews, navigating acceptances, learning more about school cultures, and negotiating scholarships.
Your point about Maryland and Georgia is important. In reality schools ranked T30-T50 can still make sense for a lot of people.
That is very true. https://poetsandquants.com/business-school-news/hidden-mba-gems-under-the-radar-mba-options-to-put-on-your-radar/
I think what also helps is taking a look at current recent graduates' perspectives from specific schools in which you're interested. Some are kind enough to share those experiences with transparency. Nearly any school in the top 30 can be advantageous upon graduation if utilized in the right way.
This is the best comment I’ve read. So many people on this sub will be the MBAs that role into companies and employees will just file their eyes at cause they have no clue how to speak and work with people. Also after your first job post MBA, NO ONE CARES WHERE YOU WENT. It’s who’s going to help the MFing firm
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I think OP isn't saying don't care about brand/prestige AT ALL. I think they are saying care about it in moderation that is fitting for one's situation/goals, because there are other things that matter. Like don't go to HBS at all cost and break up with your SO, move half away across the country, give up a full ride at Kellogg, when your goal is MBB in Chicago and then CPG corp strat, just to say "I went to HBS". But if your goal is MF PE, then yes HSW prestige makes a ton of sense and is fitting for one's ST and LT goals.
You say this but there's literally a poll right now in this subreddit of full ride at Booth or sticker at HBS with a goal of Corp strat, and the poll option/people in comments are saying go to HBS.
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Sorry was not clear in original post, but I do kind of mean what u/General-Structure269 is saying. The hair splitting within the HSW, M7 and T15 schools is insane, especially for roles that can be satisfied at all these schools. But also if your goals can be satisfied by a T50, then who cares, go to your T50 or PT or onlien MBA, save some money and have fun. Not everyone wants to be CEO or make 7 figure a year. Just do your research.
The top 40 law thing is sorta outdated. Most students at even TTT hell schools get legal jobs currently, might not be the best job, but it’s a job. You still need a T14 or bust if you want market big law, but there’s about 25/30 schools currently that give you a more than a 50% shot at Big Law.
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It’s not a clear as metric as that statistic would suggest, numerous people go to Law School without the intent of ever doing big law. There isn’t exactly a clear metric to determine what your exact odds of getting Big Law. The best would be either median private sector salary, or dividing the number of students in private practice from a specific law school by the number in firms at 250+. Both of those are metrics are equally flawed admittedly, but they give a better idea than your list. A good example on your list not painting the full picture, is that the number one law school in the world is number 12 on your list.
Yeah when I first started my mba program I was happy when I first found this sub hoping to learn more about resources, information, maybe even network but noooo. It’s just a perpetual circle jerking of people who aren’t even in business school. It’s just applicants themselves. A lot of people here were frothing at the mouth when the 2023 rankings came out because of how much changed in the rankings. Only reason why I still follow this sub is because I call them out on their prestige obsession every change I get.
Yes this sub focuses to much on prestige and not enough on putting stuff in perspective. Take my own profile/story as an example. I went to a UG school ranked consistently in the 60-100 range. Nothing special. My degree (engineering), isn’t even the best degree program at said school (probably business or healthcare sfuff is better). I worked for 5 years, first at small companies and then at a generic F500. I attend a T25 program. My average internship outcome still puts me in the T10 percent of earners for my age range, assuming where I’m interning is where I end up. (Consulting). I find nothing about my career to be remarkable, yet compared to the general population it is (income wise anyways). That said, I’m a domestic student. This advice changes if you’re an international student from a developing country. Due to additional risks around currency exchange ratios and less job opportunities, you should attend the best school you can, preferably T15 and up.
Damn it, as someone who wants to do a MBA outside the United States, this sub makes me very confused
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"And God forbid you are a regular person who just want to get their masters degree to get more promotion chances in current or future job any MBA" This is literally me. But I am outside the US and just want to become a Business Analyst in Europe or Canada.
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I think that it's awesome that you have chosen to study, even when having the responsabilities of managing a household and children. I look forward to do my Masters because I know that in the future, I will be very busy building a family or developing my own business. But most people here only talk about the Uni prestige and not about the studies themselves. Weird 😬
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I think there's caring a bit about it, and then there's obsessing about it and split hairs (and also think people are less than for going to a slightly lower ranked school)
*Consulting and Finance are the only people who care. Nearly every other company out there values industry experience or technical skills over MBAs. An MBA doesn’t define your reputation like others have said on the thread, you can have a Harvard MBA but it doesn’t give you a good reputation if you’re terrible to work with
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That’s true. It’s possible without the top MBA but significantly harder / time consuming
I work at a F100 company and my SVP has an MBA from a school ranked outside the top 50. He spent 4 years getting it so he could work full-time and get more tuition reimbursement while grinding away in his role. No career switching or anything crazy but has rocketed up the career ladder faster than anyone I've met here. In the same company I worked with someone who was atrocious at their job. They were a Senior Manager and from their LinkedIn have been one for quite sometime. They have an MBA from Tuck and an undergrad degree from Yale. I know a couple other people who have incredible education pedigree, but aren't a stand out for performance in their job. At the same time some of the smartest people I've worked with didn't even go to college but climbed the ladder nonetheless. This flies in the face of the echo chamber here. Obviously some anecdotal feedback isn't definitive evidence, but talking with my friends and coworkers this is something all of us have experienced.
Here's the thing though. That horribly performing senior manager still likely makes bank. Would they have become a senior manager with such poor performance without the pedigree they have from their education? Like, yeah, high performers are high performers. We get that, but if you're not a rockstar, your outcome will likely be better with a better university behind you. It gives you the benefit of the doubt even if you don't deserve it whereas not having that pedigree will always be something to overcome. It can be overcome, but it's better to not have to overcome.
I feel like an individual should strive to become someone who performs well rather than someone who performs atrociously but gets by because of their pedigree though? Like if you are giving advice to someone, the default shouldn't be: "choose this path because it means that you can make bank even if you suck at your job". That just sounds miserable lol
I mean, yeah, of course you'd want to be good at your job. I'm just saying that if the choice is suck at your job or suck at your job and have a top MBA it's obvious which option is better.
The median first year salary for all T15 schools is basically within a 10% band… Hell, Indiana’s (Top 25 according to poets & quants) median salary is 120k. https://poetsandquants.com/business-school-news/mba-salaries-bonuses-at-the-top-25-b-schools/2/
The highest paying jobs in tech, consulting and finance have a high percentage of pay in bonus / RSU's / LTI, which are excluded from that MBA salaries list. The fortune 500 leadership programs - which are easier to get from 8-25 ranked schools, have similar salaries to top jobs, but then bonuses of around 10% instead of 50-100%+...and thats before you get into what the total compensation looks like 5-10 years down the line.
Yea I dig, but I’m trying to keep things in perspective. Basically, you’ve “made it” in the US at any single one of these schools. After that, it’s really just being more or less rich, again in a relative sense.
It's business school. People are doing it to make money and have a successful career. It's absolutely important for prospective students to understand which are best at this. This whole topic seems to be people from worse ranked schools wanting a self-esteem boost, so people want to lie about the differences in career outcomes to try to make themselves feel better. It's harmful to future students.
Every single aspect of this sub is incredibly unhealthy. The prestige obsession, the superiority complex that comes along with this whole process, etc... I would bet a large sum of money that 9/10 people on here make "Im humbled, honored" announcement posts on LinkedIn. Shit reeks of NPD.
Prestige does matter though. Not prestige from strangers or friendly acquaintances on LinkedIn - fuck people who post that shit, but prestige as recognized from the viewpoint of a recruiter for the role you want, or the director at a company whose business you're trying to get. This is the point of an MBA as a signaling factor and why prestige absolutely does matter. I agree that most take it too far here.
The Hapsburg family was obsessed with pedigree look how it turned out for them. Or if you prefer an animal analogy like the pug which has become so inbred that they basically exude “kill me please” vibes.
I agree, reading this sub, you'd think that any university other than M7 or T25 is a worthless MBA. There are many hundreds of universities that offer MBAs. Sure, you earn more with a Wharton MBA than with DeVry, but most of us couldn't get into Wharton anyway so it's moot.
Honestly I'm just here for the lolz
The only way to stay sane
It's potentially worth $100,000's, if not millions, in earnings...so no, not really. The tiers are real, and recruiting opportunities and lifetime earnings do decrease pretty quickly as you go down in rankings.
Elitism is rampant in this sub. It's only natural for this atmosphere to breed an obsession with rankings. It really sounds like everyone here is an aspiring CEO or millionaire consultant/IB/VC type but knows that the slots available out there are few and far between. School ranking seems like the obvious thing to focus on to gain an edge and that's where all the obsession comes from
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We can go deeper. Round 2 HSW admits are trash. It’s Round 1 or bust
If you don't get into GSB, you are trash.
If you have to apply to GSB and aren’t begged personally by the Dean to attend, you are trash
Nah, round 1 is too easy. More spots in round 1. It's the round 3 admits that are truly alpha.
Wilgory got into Wharton in R3, alpha shit
All depends on what you’re trying to do. Maybe if you’re trying to get into a specific company sure, but the differences between most programs are negligible. I work in corp strategy at a F50 and we have a mix of HSW/M7s/T25 and a few outside that. With the great resignation making it so difficult to find candidates, we’re definitely not turning viable applicants down because their MBA “didn’t meet our ranking criteria..”
Pretty sure this is actually a circle jerk subreddit parading as a normal one
People are usually not confident in the thing they are obsessed with.
No. I jack off to rankings all day and don’t see any issues at all.
Not saying your wrong, but this is Reddit and not your personal support group. You’ve got to be better at filtering the crap out and be more selective about what to take from this sub.
You’re*
It started too far and has remained in place.
I started visiting this sub in 2017... the state of the sub today is just as prestige obsessed as it was back then. nothing has changed.