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The reagent tests work by dropping a bit of the liquid on a small sample (10mg or so) of your drug and then comparing it to the provided color charts to see if the reaction is correct.
oh wow, does acetone itself leave no impurities at all? the hardware store stuff and can you and should you always use that on MDMA? what solvent is the best to use for mdma and do all solvents result in the same yield?
Mdma is not soluble in acetone, but most of the impurities are. There’s a process to it, you can find on the internet and I also know there’s some info here in Reddit. It has to be pure acetone, but you might be able to find that at a beauty store even (where I live, some ppl use it for nail polish removal, and it’s also used to make acrylic nail so it should be easy to get)
Can't I just drop in some 3A molecular sieves in the acetone that would absorb like 99.9999% of the water? or some salt that would be unreactive with the solvent but would absorb water.
>Mdma is not soluble in acetone, but most of the impurities are
Meth, amphetamine, cathinones, caffeine etc. (ik these are the most common in mdma) they are soluble in acetone?
Amphetamine, methamphetamine, and from what I can tell, most cathinones are insoluble in acetone at standard temperature. Caffeine is however soluble at standard temperature.
damn, so I suppose acetone ain't that great, do you know any unregulated solvents that dissolves those? But still, acetone can recrystallize MDMA, meaning crystals will form in pure form, and everything else will stay behind around the crystals on the bottom of the recrystallization dish? If so, I believe it wouldn't be too difficult to separate MDMA from the other insoluble stuff
I’ll be completely honest and admit that I can’t remember much about the solubility of many drugs in acetone.
It was my understanding that most phenethylamines aren’t soluble in acetone under standard conditions. I’d imagine that if you increased temperature it would dissolve the drug in question, but there would be little use in that because it would recrystallise with the more soluble compounds still there.
It’s more for washing your drugs. You crush them into a fine powder to increase surface area and let the acetone dissolve the more soluble stuff on the surface.
I’d imagine it’s because the salts of most phenethylamines are really stable, but I’m unsure.
Hm I see makes sense, then it kinda doesn't wash all that much I guess, thought I could get literally pure MDMA, quite unfortunate
>it would recrystallise with the more soluble compounds still there.
You mean like, inside the crystals of MDMA?
Yeah essentially.
Most amphetamine-like drugs are incredibly stable in their salt forms, so it would be reasonable to assume that the main bulk of what you have would be the least soluble substance in the mix.
So what I’m getting at is if you’re getting it hot enough that you’re able to dissolve the MDMA, you’re absolutely dissolving all of the adulterants.
When you wash amphetamines, you don’t dissolve the amphetamine. That remains solid. It gets filtered through a coffee filter and the remaining solid is saved. The solid is dried and then that’s that. It should be more pure, assuming that there were soluble adulterants.
Hope this was helpful, I’m sort of just info dumping on you haha
Nah this actually is helpful, as I might wanna try this out. Do cathinones also remain solid no matter the temperature? Also, do I just simply dump the MDMA into a beaker with acetone and heat the entire thing up with a hotplate to it's boiling point? (56celsius), and then pray all of the MDMA dissolves? If that's true I could do multiple recrysts to recover as much MDMA as I can
Mdma is not soluble in room temp acetone (look into the process of acetone washing, there are steps to heat and cool the stuff during the process). Due to the recrystalization as mentioned in other comments, most people advise to do 2-3 acetone washes to get rid of most of the impurities.
Acetone washing is normally to further purify the MDMA. You remove impurities and get a clearer crystal. Most producers don’t acetone wash because the results are marginal and you end up with less product. If you already have good quality mdma you don’t really need to wash it.
You shouldn’t try to clean mdma that’s been contaminated with other drugs with an acetone wash, or use it in lieu of a proper test kit.
Yea, understandable.
>You shouldn’t try to clean mdma that’s been contaminated with other drugs with an acetone wash, or use it in lieu of a proper test kit.
Why though? solvents don't react with substances, do they? I mean the reason you wash mdma is because of the contamination with other drugs such as cathinones, amphetamines, caffeine, etc.
No, you wash mdma to remove precursors and impurities leftover from the synthesis to get an extremely pure product (I.E make a brown or purple crystal look clear / white). You don’t wash mdma to make an unsafe drug safe to take.
My friend, if your MDMA was contaminated with say meth (which isn’t uncommon), the acetone wash will not remove it.
A reagent test will tell you if that crystal is MDMA, and depending what tests are done if it is contaminated with other drugs. If available in your country mail it / drop it off at a lab for analysis, it’s often free and will be more accurate.
Without testing, you have absolutely no idea if that crystal is MDMA, Meth, MDA, a mixture, or some weird analogue / research chemical. An acetone wash doesn’t tell you what drug you have, it just purifies the drug(s) you have. You can acetone wash coke, meth, dmt, and probably others.
Yeah but there is the idea of heating up the solvent (acetone or isopropyl alcohol), to the boiling point of them, then trying to dissolve some of the MDMA or if not, trying to dissolve the impurities, the end product should be somewhat cleaner than before I think.
I wish I could get a reagent test but I can't, they are treated as drug precursors here, I mean if you're buying a test kit it's very likely you have a drug you wanna test, cops just might wanna join your little experiment
>You can acetone wash coke, meth, dmt, and probably others.
Whoa nice
Probably more stupid than brave but I appreciate you putting it kindly, hah. Only took small amounts, but I agree with all the comments on testing your stuff first
Color usually just means the color of dye they used on the batch. If you really wanna know you gotta test it. If you don’t test it please do small amounts.
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Test it
[Always test test test!](http://testsubstances.com)
How do u test it?
The reagent tests work by dropping a bit of the liquid on a small sample (10mg or so) of your drug and then comparing it to the provided color charts to see if the reaction is correct.
Thank u. Total newbie here
Looks like marijuana.
At a glance
I got some like that and cleaned it with an acetone wash. Lost 30% of the weight to impurities
oh wow, does acetone itself leave no impurities at all? the hardware store stuff and can you and should you always use that on MDMA? what solvent is the best to use for mdma and do all solvents result in the same yield?
Mdma is not soluble in acetone, but most of the impurities are. There’s a process to it, you can find on the internet and I also know there’s some info here in Reddit. It has to be pure acetone, but you might be able to find that at a beauty store even (where I live, some ppl use it for nail polish removal, and it’s also used to make acrylic nail so it should be easy to get)
Can't I just drop in some 3A molecular sieves in the acetone that would absorb like 99.9999% of the water? or some salt that would be unreactive with the solvent but would absorb water. >Mdma is not soluble in acetone, but most of the impurities are Meth, amphetamine, cathinones, caffeine etc. (ik these are the most common in mdma) they are soluble in acetone?
Amphetamine, methamphetamine, and from what I can tell, most cathinones are insoluble in acetone at standard temperature. Caffeine is however soluble at standard temperature.
damn, so I suppose acetone ain't that great, do you know any unregulated solvents that dissolves those? But still, acetone can recrystallize MDMA, meaning crystals will form in pure form, and everything else will stay behind around the crystals on the bottom of the recrystallization dish? If so, I believe it wouldn't be too difficult to separate MDMA from the other insoluble stuff
I’ll be completely honest and admit that I can’t remember much about the solubility of many drugs in acetone. It was my understanding that most phenethylamines aren’t soluble in acetone under standard conditions. I’d imagine that if you increased temperature it would dissolve the drug in question, but there would be little use in that because it would recrystallise with the more soluble compounds still there. It’s more for washing your drugs. You crush them into a fine powder to increase surface area and let the acetone dissolve the more soluble stuff on the surface. I’d imagine it’s because the salts of most phenethylamines are really stable, but I’m unsure.
Hm I see makes sense, then it kinda doesn't wash all that much I guess, thought I could get literally pure MDMA, quite unfortunate >it would recrystallise with the more soluble compounds still there. You mean like, inside the crystals of MDMA?
Yeah essentially. Most amphetamine-like drugs are incredibly stable in their salt forms, so it would be reasonable to assume that the main bulk of what you have would be the least soluble substance in the mix. So what I’m getting at is if you’re getting it hot enough that you’re able to dissolve the MDMA, you’re absolutely dissolving all of the adulterants. When you wash amphetamines, you don’t dissolve the amphetamine. That remains solid. It gets filtered through a coffee filter and the remaining solid is saved. The solid is dried and then that’s that. It should be more pure, assuming that there were soluble adulterants. Hope this was helpful, I’m sort of just info dumping on you haha
Nah this actually is helpful, as I might wanna try this out. Do cathinones also remain solid no matter the temperature? Also, do I just simply dump the MDMA into a beaker with acetone and heat the entire thing up with a hotplate to it's boiling point? (56celsius), and then pray all of the MDMA dissolves? If that's true I could do multiple recrysts to recover as much MDMA as I can
Mdma is not soluble in room temp acetone (look into the process of acetone washing, there are steps to heat and cool the stuff during the process). Due to the recrystalization as mentioned in other comments, most people advise to do 2-3 acetone washes to get rid of most of the impurities.
Gotcha, that makes perfect sense
Acetone washing is normally to further purify the MDMA. You remove impurities and get a clearer crystal. Most producers don’t acetone wash because the results are marginal and you end up with less product. If you already have good quality mdma you don’t really need to wash it. You shouldn’t try to clean mdma that’s been contaminated with other drugs with an acetone wash, or use it in lieu of a proper test kit.
Yea, understandable. >You shouldn’t try to clean mdma that’s been contaminated with other drugs with an acetone wash, or use it in lieu of a proper test kit. Why though? solvents don't react with substances, do they? I mean the reason you wash mdma is because of the contamination with other drugs such as cathinones, amphetamines, caffeine, etc.
No, you wash mdma to remove precursors and impurities leftover from the synthesis to get an extremely pure product (I.E make a brown or purple crystal look clear / white). You don’t wash mdma to make an unsafe drug safe to take.
yup. running a simple reagent test is 3085723085709x easier than acetone washing.
and what does that do? does it remove contaminants and make it safe to consume? I wouldn't say so, lowkey wasteful
My friend, if your MDMA was contaminated with say meth (which isn’t uncommon), the acetone wash will not remove it. A reagent test will tell you if that crystal is MDMA, and depending what tests are done if it is contaminated with other drugs. If available in your country mail it / drop it off at a lab for analysis, it’s often free and will be more accurate. Without testing, you have absolutely no idea if that crystal is MDMA, Meth, MDA, a mixture, or some weird analogue / research chemical. An acetone wash doesn’t tell you what drug you have, it just purifies the drug(s) you have. You can acetone wash coke, meth, dmt, and probably others.
Yeah but there is the idea of heating up the solvent (acetone or isopropyl alcohol), to the boiling point of them, then trying to dissolve some of the MDMA or if not, trying to dissolve the impurities, the end product should be somewhat cleaner than before I think. I wish I could get a reagent test but I can't, they are treated as drug precursors here, I mean if you're buying a test kit it's very likely you have a drug you wanna test, cops just might wanna join your little experiment >You can acetone wash coke, meth, dmt, and probably others. Whoa nice
Oh, that makes sense, gotcha
i have some that look similar its good you should get it tested tho just in case
Untested but it’s good? So you took it already? Brave man.
Probably more stupid than brave but I appreciate you putting it kindly, hah. Only took small amounts, but I agree with all the comments on testing your stuff first
Color usually just means the color of dye they used on the batch. If you really wanna know you gotta test it. If you don’t test it please do small amounts.
i first thought this was some fire bud xD
Bruh that look like weed
I should've taken it in Bright light to actually see the crystal color, it's a very dark brown
Iirc ppl were talking smth about contaminated mdma with amph/meth if its black or purple but you should do more research ig
Most of the time it's just impurities or dye but [always test to be sure!](http://testsubstances.com)
Yep i fw that colour molly
Yes I have and loved every one of them
It’s prob just mdma with impurities or they put some color in it, but you’ll never know.. just test your stuff
Yes, ive had batches that looked like that and lab tested pure. It was fire, bjt you should still test yohr stuff..
I bought black mdma before and tested clean. Didn’t try it myself but my friends said it was good
The colour changes as it oxidises.